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Topic subject	How far should religious freedom extend?
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12719131, How far should religious freedom extend? Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 09:18 AM The right to be a public health risk? The right to discriminate? Exemption from laws of the land?
12719133, as far as it does currently. Posted by SoWhat, Thu Feb-05-15 09:18 AM
12719142, It extends too far now Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 09:27 AM
12719146, How? Posted by tomjohn29, Thu Feb-05-15 09:31 AM
12719157, Vaccination exemptions.... Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 09:34 AM exempting religious orgs and companies owned by religious people from employment laws.
12719169, what's the root of your anti-religion bias? Posted by SoWhat, Thu Feb-05-15 09:38 AM
12719178, I was abused by the lort Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 09:42 AM
12719182, he seems to have touched you in a bad place. Posted by SoWhat, Thu Feb-05-15 09:43 AM
12719220, Side Note: I completely disagree with the notions that Corporations have Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Feb-05-15 10:11 AM a religious "character". Corporations are legal fictions designed for liability, finance and tax purposes. Nothing else. Corporations should not have religious exemptions that allow it to discriminate in violation of the law. That's why Hobby Lobby is so ridiculous to me. ********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/
12719148, no. it doesn't. Posted by SoWhat, Thu Feb-05-15 09:32 AM
12719158, I think that Westboro fam pushed the limits Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Feb-05-15 09:35 AM you shouldn't be able to troll a funeral.
12719164, nah, that's tasteless, but it falls under speech and assembly Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 09:36 AM
12719147, The better question is "Should religious freedom be limited? Posted by Case_One, Thu Feb-05-15 09:32 AM Because that's the tend in this God hating country. . . . "Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."
12719154, religious freedom isn't just about 'God' though. Posted by SoWhat, Thu Feb-05-15 09:33 AM it's also about Allah. and Brahma. and Satan. and a host of other gods and spirits that ppl worship and/or follow religiously. it's much bigger than the Xtian God.
12719180, Really Now? Are you serious? That's Crazy Talk! Posted by Case_One, Thu Feb-05-15 09:43 AM >it's also about Allah. and Brahma. and Satan. and a host >of other gods and spirits that ppl worship and/or follow >religiously. > >it's much bigger than the Xtian God. Well knock me over and color me pink. I thought religious freedom in the Big Ol'Ameica was only for the White Christina Male. Thanks for pointing out the obvious. . . . "Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."
12719185, word. you post like you miss the obvious so i wanted to be sure Posted by SoWhat, Thu Feb-05-15 09:44 AM you're up on this.
12719205, I posted like someone responding with a religious view. Posted by Case_One, Thu Feb-05-15 09:58 AM You failed to miss that point. . . . "Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."
12719156, Examples of religious freedom is limited? Posted by tomjohn29, Thu Feb-05-15 09:34 AM
12719170, Please provide non biased examples of such NO SNARK n/m Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Thu Feb-05-15 09:38 AM ***************************************** huh
12719193, We have done this post (similar) here befor Posted by Case_One, Thu Feb-05-15 09:47 AM We have discussed the Removal of the word God from court houses, schools, etc. We have discussed the prevention of prayer groups in HS We have discussed the prevention of allowing kids to read their bibles in class We have discussed the prevention of allowing adults to read bibles at work I can go on. But don't act like this hasn't happened or is happening. . . . "Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."
12719199, establishment clause, my nigga Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 09:50 AM that's not a limit on religion
12719206, Actually it is a limit on religious freedoms - Sir. Posted by Case_One, Thu Feb-05-15 09:59 AM But I'll let you cook. . . . "Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."
12719217, No, it is not a limit on religious freedom Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 10:07 AM If is a prohibition of state-sponsored religion. There's a WORLD of difference.
12719245, OK Bro. I see you running around Posted by Case_One, Thu Feb-05-15 10:28 AM to advance your view. We cool. But we disagree. . . . "Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."
12719302, tell us more about the law, attorney Case. Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Thu Feb-05-15 10:56 AM you're a genius. you understand all the court cases. tell us how praying in school is illegal. Please explain the constitution to us, case.
12719215, Oh you mean humans misinterpreting the law Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Thu Feb-05-15 10:04 AM is persecuting Christians and hating God. I can see how you feel that way. But if you recognize one in public you have to recognize all. And since its inconvenient for that none gets recognized. I mean unless the majority people are okay with me making Ebbo before a sporting event..then lets do it ***************************************** huh
12719165, OT: the religious patriarch presence is a big re why OKP is dead, imo Posted by kevlar skully, Thu Feb-05-15 09:37 AM
12719189, ^^^^sees it^^^^ Posted by bonitaapplebaum71481, Thu Feb-05-15 09:46 AM "i wanna hug all u idiotic bastards & then set you all on fire" -Bin www.twitter.com/bedstuybetty http://bedstuybetty.tumblr.com/ DROkayplayer: Giving you good puff since May '05
12719175, your religious freedom can extend.long as it stops before it gets to me Posted by BigJazz, Thu Feb-05-15 09:40 AM *** I'm tryna be better off, not better than...
12719181, and that's where I am with #8 Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 09:43 AM
12719186, As far as you want as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Feb-05-15 09:44 AM Heck you can not take vaccines if you want as long as you don't try to go to public schools and other public places where you might get others sick. ********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/
12719194, NOPE!!! Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 09:48 AM Your children are not your property. They did not elect your faith and they deserve the same protections that other children get.
12719218, Define protections. I don't think the state is in a better position than a Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Feb-05-15 10:08 AM parent to decide what's best for a person's children UNLESS that parent has patently proven themselves unfit to make such decisions. Does not vaccinating your kid fall into the category of unfit to parent? I don't think so. Even if it means your kid may get sicker from time to time and might not live as long. I'll admit that sounds harsh but I have a problem with the state deciding what's best for people and their kids. I will admit that I am not married to that POV and could be convinced otherwise if I learn some dangers of non-vaccination I am not aware of. ********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/
12719229, the state is in a much better place to make public health decisions Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 10:18 AM just as the state can dictate that kids have to go to school (of course the Amish get exemptions)
12719239, Agreed regarding public health. Hence my point about only if you don't Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Feb-05-15 10:25 AM go in public spaces. Also the state can't make you go to school. Look at all those home school kids. ********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/
12719728, the state requires x years of education Posted by John Forte, Thu Feb-05-15 02:56 PM
12719195, yeah. Posted by SoWhat, Thu Feb-05-15 09:48 AM i have no problem w/ppl being allowed to opt out of vaccinations and being prohibited from attending public school as a result.
12719192, I just want to say how dope it is Iceland is building a temple to Thor Posted by T Reynolds, Thu Feb-05-15 09:47 AM http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/05/why-iceland-is-building-a-temple-to-its-pagan-gods.html
12719204, wow! that's cool. i would visit iceland just to see this Posted by luminous, Thu Feb-05-15 09:56 AM
12719310, Religion and the State should not mix. Posted by initiationofplato, Thu Feb-05-15 10:58 AM Religion should be a private endeavour and pursuit with no political power.