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Stacey Dash on Rape Victims: They're Bad Girls Who Like to Be Naughty

It is hard to expect much of Outnumbered. It is also hard to expect much of Fox News, the channel on which Outnumbered airs. And yet a head shake still occurs when one hears an opinion like the one Stacey Dash shared during Friday's episode, when she stated that college women who are raped are "bad girls" who "go out and play and get hurt" and then blame "the alcohol."

As Media Matters points out, Outnumbered got their hands on two news stories today and went as hard as frat boy with a keg and funnel: First, that national sorority chapters have asked sorority sisters at the University of Virginia to avoid fraternity houses this weekend, and second, Dartmouth College's decision to ban hard alcohol on campus. Neither of these ideas are particularly good ones, but they do not deserve the treatment they got from Dash, or from fellow nothingburger Andrea Tantaros.


To start, Dash said she thought suggesting to the "good" sorority sisters that they avoid frat parties was "a good thing for the girls...to be told to stay home, be safe." (She had to be corrected for calling them girls and not women.):

The other bad girls–bad women–are the ones who like to be naughty, might go out and play and get hurt and then, you know...But the other thing about this is that it then blames the alcohol instead of the person who over-drinks. So it's like, the same thing with guns. Guns don't kill people; people kill people. Alcohol doesn't get you drunk; you get yourself drunk.
Let's just break that logic down.

Guns don't kill people; people kill people. True.

Alcohol doesn't get you drunk; you get yourself drunk. True.

Rape victims aren't raped; they rape themselves/get themselves raped.

Tantaros wasn't as caught up as Stacey in this oh-so-original brand of victim-blaming of these naughty, naughty girls. She just wants the rules to be clear. Wouldn't we all! But perhaps not for quite the reasons she does.

I would just like someone to tell me the rules. Are women strong enough to take care of themselves, or are they not strong enough to take care of themselves? Because we're getting so many mixed messages. And I do feel for some of these fraternity guys because you look at UVA, none of them have been convicted of anything. So I think a lot of boys are feeling like the minute they step foot on college – let me finish, they step foot on college and they are immediately considered to be guilty. I mean girls are given rape whistles and boys aren't allowed at frat parties – either women can handle liquor and make responsible choices or they can't. And they're a bunch of babies who need to be kept away from liquor and boys.
"Either women can handle liquor and make responsible choices or they can't." There are plenty of mixed messages out there, but these women aren't helping.

#FIFU

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too for the most part but a *few* of the male conservatives are somewhat sensible

But

The women though? I can't think of ONE female politician or commentator who is conservative that isn't batshit crazy (Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachman/Christine Odonell/Jan Brewer/Liz Cheney/AnnCoulter/Laura Ingraham/Michelle Malkin)

>#FIFU
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>(fixed it for you)

it wasn't even implied

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The context I picked up was "girls who knowingly place themselves in danger at frat parties like to live on the wild side", not that they aren't worthy of respect or protection or that they deserve any negative fallout

the media basically hates Stacey Dash for being anti-Obama or pro Republican, so they have it out for her

and tied to the virgin/whore dichotomy that folk love to use when dislocating blame from rapist and placing it on victims.

and she was implying that "naughty girls" should learn not to put themselves in those situations. which her co-panalist co-signed with that "then they go home and cry" bullshit.

now a tru head, please give me the schemata of a "naughty/bad girl" in public who is consuming alcohol as a opposed to a "good girl". or once she drinks she's already "bad/naughty"

>tied to the virgin/whore dichotomy that folk love to use
>when dislocating blame from rapist and placing it on victims.



>and she was implying that "naughty girls" should learn not to
>put themselves in those situations.

I dont think she implied anything about rape. A Rolling Stone article was mentioned about a false rape allegation, then the segment went on a tangent about how frat parties aren't safe. she said naughty girls are willing to place themselves in risky environments for a thrill, that's where it should have ended.


>now a tru head, please give me the schemata of a "naughty/bad
>girl" in public who is consuming alcohol. as a opposed to a
"good girl". or once she drinks she's already "bad/naughty"

you left out a key detail. they didn't say "women shouldn't drink at bars", rather "women shouldn't drink at frat parties where scumbags are waiting to take advantage of them (consensually or otherwise)".

in no way does this absolve said scumbag of responsibility to be a good human, but much of college partying is uncontrollable fuckery so do your best to put your safety first

maybe it's bc I work in media, but spinning quotes for headlines is a pet peeve

>spinning quotes for
>headlines

I actually don't know what she tried to say because it was all a jumbled mess.
But she def. didn't say anything like girls who get raped are bad girls.

What I think she said is that it is good for the sororities to ban them from going to the parties because it would be dangerous that night.
So the "good girls" will stay home, but the "bad girls" (who don't follow rules) will go out and take the risk and possibly get hurt.

Basically don't knowingly put yourself in a dangerous situation when you have been warned about it

because (white knight) men ain't always gonna be around to save them when shit hits the fan.


>Basically don't knowingly put yourself in a dangerous
>situation when you have been warned about it

i.e. immediately after a rape case makes headlines.

"well, if she wasn't drinking while clearly underage this wouldn't have happened"...


... which, while very likely to be the truth, saying it after something traumatic happening is just piss poor timing.

... maybe try instilling it as kids are growing up.
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Patriarchy and misogyny

Should have thrown in chauvinist for good measure

Most post like these you in here with the same bullshit about a woman's responsibility and choices and blah blah blah

I dont think you're a bad dude, but you def have no idea what you talking about in terms of things related to social power and politcal capital

of themselves, hence the misogyny card.

Not surprising

You, I do think are a terrible human being, just by the countless Ted Cruz posting you do

There's a fair point to be made- I.E, I'd advise my daughter to avoid such events when the time comes. Hell, I'd advise my son to steer well clear himself.

http://youtu.be/7wiUeNcaPHk?t=35s

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