Fancy Clown vs. Deeper?
America's Most Blunted vs. Higher?
Accordion vs. Scarface?
etc.

Poll question: Madvillainy vs. Piñata

Poll result (39 votes) 2004 (31 votes) Vote 2014 (8 votes) Vote

lol.
i like both and i don't want to compare the two and you can't make me!

it's so perfect

Also, what would you say the song match-ups I mentioned? Which is your fav she-cheatin song? Fav weed anthem? Fav album opener?

the difference (to ME) is MF DOOM is an MC's emcee vs. Gibbs is just a good rapper. That changes the approach to the beat, the approach to the subject matter....everything. Whole nutha vibe.

Piñata is mixed pretty poorly and I love Gibbs when he isn't doing his Tupac impersonation, but Piñata has a little too much Hennesseeeee/Enemieeeees for my taste.

not for squares

i can go talk to dudes that are really in the streets and ask them "you heard that freddie gibbs album" and niggers will say "who dat"

A rare breed indeed

there aren't too many.

Let's be honest, DOOM be rapping bout some gutter as shit when he's not making geek references.

Anyway, same dude came back and put me onto Gangster Gibbs...

this one is pretty easy

Sun's fanbase know the brother mans dope

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i super simple lyric
that doesn't actually say anything
and doesn't make much sense
delivered at half speed
in a boring tone of voice
that his fans claim is GENIUS!

Just admit you don't feel homie and keep it moving

but no, i don't expect to convince anyone else
His fans are on some Jonestown shit, for real

it really is that simple

That said, I honestly don't beleieve that font even believes that Dumile can't rap, despite what he says


Cause for real, he's coming off mad "Obama is a Muslim terrorist"...

Like, you can dislike Obama without making by shit up I.e. DOOM can't rap

>That said, I honestly don't beleieve that font even believes
>that Dumile can't rap, despite what he says

i'm honestly not trolling - i just have a wildly unpopular opinion.
I've never heard a song, a verse, a bar from this guy that made me take note.
the reason i go so hard about it tho, is because people put him on this crazy pedestal of MCing.
Like, if most folks who listened to him were just like, "ya man, Doom's pretty tight, whatever" - it wouldn't freak me out so much that *I* think he's wack
But the fact that his fan base truly thinks he's god's gift to the mic.....i don't even know how to respond to that man. Real talk.

MF is an aquired taste. I didn't feel him at first either & don't know anybody who took too him super fast, even amongst my hip hop nerd friends.

His voice isn't very accesible but after awhile you'll find it incredibly charming

people have been trying to put me on to Doom since my Scratch Mag days
He has never impressed me as an MC - not in the slightest
I just don't hear it

EDIT - if you want a small victory though - i will say that he's made a number of beats that i like

cause you're tripping


one man's waste is another man's soap doesn't make sense? You dislike DOOM so much that you can't even understand that the line is a simple play on the phrase "one man's trash is another man's treasure", which makes plenty of sense?

like damn, your anti-DOOM bias just dogs your critical thinking lol


for real though, I'm a professor of MF DOOM. I got too many ppl to at least admit he can rhymes words together good to believe a head can't at least see that, even if you not feeling it


he cleans his metal mask with gasoline
they after him
last seen him pulling chicks like a fiend pull a fast one
can't put shit past him, got niggas on his own team mad enough to blast him
retarded in real life
on the mic, rain man
stand close to his main man like a chain gang
who give a fuck about who or they fancy crew
that's no mystery like what Hardy boys do with Nancy Drew
saw her with her draws down, caught her
the extorter bring slaughter like "well, I oughta"


you gotta at least admit, DOOM is damn fine rapper, technically

>one man's waste is another man's soap doesn't make sense? You
>dislike DOOM so much that you can't even understand that the
>line is a simple play on the phrase "one man's trash is
>another man's treasure", which makes plenty of sense?

when i say it doesn't make sense, i don't mean i don't GET it.
It doesnt make sense like, "so? and?"
you said yourself, its a SIMPLE play on a phrase. thats a good word to describe a lot of his work.
so yes, i understand it - im just not impressed by it in the slightest.
You know what impresses me?

Respiration. Sqad Up 7. Mural. Black's Reconstruction.The Guidelines. BBS. 22 Two's. Big Dusty. Cartoons & Cereal.
I could go on....

I respect that you ride for dude.
Ive got a lot of friends, who's taste and opinions I respect immensely, who do the same.
i dont.

no thanks homie.
im flattered though.

or are you using diction?

the line itself is a simple turn of phrase, but the general creativity of so many turnt phrases, diverse wordplay & intricate rhymes schemes that characterize DOOM's music.. how could you not be moved by any of it if you have a taste for this type of hip-hop


MF said he sold a lonely only child an imaginary enemy....




man, you gonna wake up one day like, "how didn't I get it before?"

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Madvillainy is a Top 25 greatest rap album of all time. I dont think Pinata will earn that distinction.

>Madvillainy is a Top 25 greatest rap album of all time. I
>dont think Pinata will earn that distinction.

Post up your 25

it really has no replay value for me
unless I wanna hear that dope ass atlantic starr sample
but im not really a big doom fan

maybe I'm just not a Madlib fan, because the rhymes are as good as any Doom has spit, but I'd much rather listen to Vaudeville Villain or MM, Food

Accordion, All Caps, Fancy Clown and Great Day are tough joints.

im def a huge huge huge madlib fan
but i feel like gibbs matched the sounds on pinata
perfect marriage

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of the last 15 years.

grow up

learn to say, outside of the general consensus, I'm not a big fan of...

you, in MV's case, are of the minority opinion

we all have albums like that. some for me are Miseducation, Endtroducing, College Dropout and Late Reg, etc

That said it's a dope project.

Madvillian on the other hand made me a stone cold DOOM fan. I used to diss dude. This made me go back and do the knowledge. Amazing album not without its missteps that's filled with genius writing and production. Gotta give it to the Metal Face villain.

Sorry, I cant stand MF Doom. One of those ppl okp REVERES and I just cant get into him pause. boring af. the madvillainy instrumentals are bonkers though.


but yea...Pinata by light years.

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im a huge madlib/quasimodo/lootpack fan

but mf doom never moved me like that.

The kind who also probably type in aave on hip hop message boards when they live 30 miles away

i have no idea what pinata is
im old now LOL
but we dont need to be dissing Madvilliany, DOOM, or madlib
yall tripping.

Instant Classic

He doesnt do anything for me, but dude been puttin in work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbxcPy1qJTU

i like the videos from thuggin and deeper
pure cali shit

thank you thread, i was unaware.

nice album.

DOOM still wins, but I'm glad this exists.

Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg


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