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Topic subjectWhy did this cop shoot this dude? (Graphic body cam video)
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12707792, Why did this cop shoot this dude? (Graphic body cam video)
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Thu Feb-12-15 08:27 AM
They're saying dude pointed something at the cop but I didn't see that.

video link: http://launch.newsinc.com/share.html?trackingGroup=69016&siteSection=rawstory&videoId=28418002

link to story: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/watch-body-camera-captures-oklahoma-cop-fatally-shooting-man-outside-church-wedding/

An officer was involved in a fatal shooting for the first time since police in Muskogee, Oklahoma began wearing body cameras, the Tulsa World reports.

In the video, Officer Chansey McMillin — who was responding to call that a man outside the Old Agency Baptist Church was telling people his ex-girlfriend “had a bullet with her name on it” — approaches 21-year-old Terence Walker and tells him he is going to pat him down for weapons.

“Just relax for me,” McMillin says as he pats Walker down. “What are you shaking for?”

At that point, Walker takes off running with McMillin in pursuit. After a few seconds, Walker bends down to pick an item he dropped and briefly turns toward McMillin with the item pointing towards him.

Officer McMillin fires six shots at Walker, striking him three times.

The pastor from a nearby church who initially called the police then rushes up to Walker’s body, which had half-fallen into the ditch. “I’m the pastor, let me check on him” he tells McMillin, who yells at him to “Get back! Get back! Sir, get back, he has a gun!”

Other police are on the scene within minutes. “I was in a bad spot,” McMillin tells them.

As they search Walker’s body, police find what they claim to be a loaded handgun on it. A few minutes later, the pastor who had implored Officer McMillin to allow him to render Walker aid can be heard telling other officers on the scene that Walker “resisted him.”

McMillin, the pastor says, “did everything by procedure. Walker resisted him, he resisted him. I’m the pastor who called it in. He asked him,” the pastor says, pointing at Officer McMillin, “‘do you have a weapon on you?’ then he jumped off him and jumped off running.”

After hearing that, McMillin leans against his car and asks, “Why did Walker have to do that?”

Officer McMillin has been placed on mandatory administrative leave after the shooting, as this was the second one he has been involved with in the last six months. In July, he shot — but did not kill — Angel Cerda, who had allegedly attacked a man with a knife and was advancing toward McMillin with a knife raised.

McMillin was praised by Police Chief Rex Eskridge for his use of non-lethal force in that shooting.
12707961, He was black and this is America?
Posted by Atillah Moor, Fri Jan-23-15 06:06 PM
I think the police being historically derived from run away slave patrols and also having a history of being linked to the KKK may play a role as well.

However, in this case-- if the story is accurate it sounds like once the guy bent down and picked up whatever it was off the ground the officer had a right to be concerned for his safety as well as others. Also why the man ran for no reason is of concern as well. Why the pastor called the police is also questionable-- I mean you'd think he could maybe talk the man down a but and assess the situation before risking getting him killed by calling the negro hunter-- I mean police.
12708085, I'm not a police apologist, but I'm not going to condemn that pastor
Posted by Adwhizz, Fri Jan-23-15 08:40 PM
For not trying to negotiate with somebody with a loaded gun who is allegedly talking about shooting somebody
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Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Jan-23-15 06:17 PM
No message
12708022, RE: He dropped and picked up a loaded gun (full video link)
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Fri Jan-23-15 06:45 PM
Yeah he picked up his gun but where was he pointing the gun at the cop? He picked it up and kept running
12708026, LOLOLOL are you fucking shitting me???
Posted by deejboram, Fri Jan-23-15 06:47 PM
>Yeah he picked up his gun but where was he pointing the gun
>at the cop? He picked it up and kept running


If you drop a loaded gun, ANY GUN, in front of the police you leave that muthafucka on the ground with your hands UP
12708074, RE: LOLOLOL are you fucking shitting me???
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Fri Jan-23-15 08:18 PM
No the fuck you don't. If you're trying to get away from a cop, you're not leaving incriminating evidence behind. Especially not a loaded gun.
12708083, but...better to leave your evidence behind than.. your life?
Posted by mikediggz, Fri Jan-23-15 08:34 PM
12708028, If you wait for the gun to be pointed at you, it's too late
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Jan-23-15 06:50 PM
That can't possibly be your criteria for deadly force
12708078, wow.......... You gotta be trilling. I hope you're trolling.
Posted by GrumpySmurf, Fri Jan-23-15 08:25 PM
>Yeah he picked up his gun but where was he pointing the gun
>at the cop? He picked it up and kept running
12708231, No trolling. Keep 'em coming though
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sat Jan-24-15 09:00 AM
12708096, Jesus Fucking Christ
Posted by KosherSam, Fri Jan-23-15 09:11 PM
12708232, Indeed
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sat Jan-24-15 09:00 AM
12708169, Nick you have a problem...seriously
Posted by RobOne4, Fri Jan-23-15 11:58 PM
12708233, Thanks!
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sat Jan-24-15 09:01 AM
12708220, Now we know to totally discount your opinion on this topic. Good ish.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Sat Jan-24-15 08:21 AM

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12708234, I discount opinions here daily. Good ish.
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sat Jan-24-15 09:01 AM
12708087, i hope body cams become universal
Posted by woe.is.me., Fri Jan-23-15 08:54 PM
12708122, Based On the Youtube Footage
Posted by RexLongfellow, Fri Jan-23-15 09:58 PM
Can't be mad at the cop

Sucks that ANOTHER young black man had to lose his life, but in THIS CASE? Nah, that was on him
12708213, RE: Based On the Youtube Footage
Posted by imperial, Sat Jan-24-15 05:21 AM
>Can't be mad at the cop
>
>Sucks that ANOTHER young black man had to lose his life, but
>in THIS CASE? Nah, that was on him

Yeah and he had to have dreadlocks too...smh

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12708126, wrong post*
Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Fri Jan-23-15 10:07 PM
he only got tazed and id even venture to say he was being more uncompliant...

sounds ilke he might be one of these soveriegn citizen types

http://youtu.be/09Vwt3vZ9do

*edit*
sorry i thought this was the post of the guy insisting on getting out of his car

not the dropped gun guy
12708166, stop giving cops an excuse to kill you
Posted by Cenario, Fri Jan-23-15 11:49 PM
12708242, Watch out, they're gonna throw you in the "Coon Train"
Posted by Binladen, Sat Jan-24-15 09:28 AM
12708229, I've seen this situation handled differently in person but
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sat Jan-24-15 08:59 AM
keep the shots coming. I can handle 'em. Cops are too quick to fire shots.
12708243, I woulda shot that dude too
Posted by Binladen, Sat Jan-24-15 09:29 AM
12708246, Can you ppl not see how Case One could have been shot too?
Posted by deejboram, Sat Jan-24-15 09:42 AM
Do yall not see how QUICKLY that entire sequence unfolded?

And then adrenaline is pumping.
You don't know who is capable of doing you bodily harm in that situation.
And Case One is standing there within ten feet of the officer with a loaded gun after he just murdered another man.

Cops job aint easy man.
Aint easy at all.
12708250, This is crazy. Happened much quicker than I thought.
Posted by deejboram, Sat Jan-24-15 09:52 AM
from the time he got out his cop car to the time he sauntered over through that parking lot and touched the black guy it was 30 seconds

he was in contact with the black guy for 10 seconds before black guy bolted off running

chase ensues for 3-4 seconds

black guy drops guns then tries to pick it up

officer fires shots

that was a total of 55 seconds from the time officer got out his car until the black guy was dead

fifty-five seconds

craziness.
12708257, Crazy how many deaths I've seen because of the Internet
Posted by Amritsar, Sat Jan-24-15 10:08 AM