Fox got one.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/01/22/empire-fox-ratings-climb/22168533/

Fox continues to build its Empire.

The hip-hop family soap drew an average of 11.1 million same-day viewers for Wednesday's third episode, up from 10.3 million last week and 9.9 million for its Jan. 7 premiere.

A drama that builds in its second and third weeks is a rare and impressive feat, hinting at long-term success as more viewers discover the show, which stars Terrence Howard and Taraji P. Henson.

One factor in its favor: Competing ABC comedies Modern Family and Black-ish (which also features a mostly black cast) aired repeats Wednesday night. But typically new shows' premieres attract their largest audience, while subsequent episodes decline and then settle at a lower number.

Instead, Empire's audience was up 8% week to week, and its young-adult viewership rose 10%. Sixty percent of the audience for its first two episodes was African-American.

and taraji's role is just
just
just
i cant even find the words

light skin baby from the caymann islands (annika) would be the only reason i tune in

she having fun out there. like spader on the blacklist

>she having fun out there. like spader on the blacklist


sees it^^^^^Taraji is making it happen on that show with a wink....

The weak link weirdly enough is Terrence...I read that Wesley Snipes was supposed to get that role but Taraji said she would only do it with Terrence...I would have dug Wesley going HAM on that show. He would have been much more sinister in that role....

i love watching her. and Terrance.

i didn't expect to like the show but i'm all in.

oh...and NAOMI CAMPBELL!!!! hellz yeah.

>oh...and NAOMI CAMPBELL!!!! hellz yeah.

is that hakeem's momma, momma, or mami?

but taraji is killing it.

yeah he doesn't convey intimidation well but he's pretty good at getting the rest of lucious across.

I hate his voice
it's always squeaky
PUT SOME GOTDAMN BASS IN YOUR VOICE NIGGA!!!!
SAY IT WITH YOUR CHEST!!!

he plays that role in The Best Man movies good tho
but for shit like this, im good

I think Snipes would have been BOMB
nigga woulda channeled and brough back his inner Nino Brown


AM I MY BROTHERS KEEPER!?!?!?!

and I don't like tv shows like that, but Taraji gets all attention when she is on the screen

I got nothing to say but we will never get in a fight over a girl.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/

>I got nothing to say but we will never get in a fight over a
>girl.

i said i didnt like taraji's acting
i love her physical pedigree

do you remember that movie she was in where she was a lesbian and her and her lover killed some guy (i think it was her lover's beard)

it was a lot of nudity in that movie

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RE: Terrence Howard is playing the villain very well

And what's up with the bamma's hair? It goes from conk to regular and back, in a matter of seconds, during the same scene.

>RE: Terrence Howard is playing the villain very well
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>And what's up with the bamma's hair? It goes from conk to
>regular and back, in a matter of seconds, during the same
>scene.

Is that Howard's fault? I like that passive thuggary. He makes people think that they can say whatever and then they experience that "OH SH**" look when dude Kirks out.

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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

and producers who allow that type of incongruency to exist. All in all though, I do enjoy the show.

I'll record this but still tune in to new episodes of black-ish.

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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

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>"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."


^^^^

Agree with this Terrance is really playing the shady Ceo very well.

I luh this mess.

Only thing that is keeping it from being a real live night time soap opera is there is no ANGEL FACE. Everyone is a scheming asshole LOL
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huh

Not asking for snarking purposes, but it's rare to actually know of someone with a Nielson's box.

I know my company can give real numbers, not a sample.

and Taraji to get back together too.


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http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/

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huh

*spills tea*

LOL!!!! You know I love you for #BasedMayne, right!!! :)

I admit, I do love me some Hip Hop Dynasty. All we need is Cookie to go bitchslap on ole girl and it will be complete!!!!

in that I have less then zero interest in watching that show. Already hurts that I'm not a Terrence Howard fan, and even worse I'm sick of watching soap opera-ery stuff like Scandal and How To Get Away With Murder. Judging from the responses on the prior thread on the show, looks like that show is up that alley.

Becoming more and more detached with pop culture as the days go on and I'm not even that close to 40 years of age.

Sorry for the misplaced rant.

the tough barely crossed my mind as i watched a really weak SVU episode

...i'm not a fan of more messy black folk on tv, but i'm happy for Taraji..she was great in the ep i did watch

I LOVE THIS SHOW

its horrible!

Lucious
Cookie
Lucious having a club named LEVITICUS and doesn't want his gay son performing there

the fellatio bib

"look cookie, i gotta go on white tv"

homeboy raised muslim "he's of the fruit?"

LOL


it is so fucking entertaining

The FOI being responsible for the death of Lucious's Father.
The Riddler ass hobo.
The youngest son and his "Mama".

You can always count on Lee Daniels to bring the fuckery.

honestly i realized, NOI or FOI never say anything about being implicated as secret killers/gangsters

they don't get all butt hurt like people get now about these sort of things. at least not in mainstream media.

see? Empire makes me THINK lol.

>it is so fucking entertaining


homegirl giving a dead person's SSN (* i dont do taxes)

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but I haven't paid any attention to it

but im banned tho.
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Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!

OF OFFICE SNACKS AND LOUDLY EATS THEM?

Like what does that symbolize or represent? Why is that on the show? What exactly are they even eating?

Rarely have I ever followed a regular non-reality television show in a long time. But Empire forces me to stop what the Hell I'm doing and watch.

I really hope this show sticks around.

oh i love taraji
i want to see how everything works out with her

the middle kid i wonder how he turns out

please let cookie kick anika's behind!

i want to see what happens to the oldest kid
he has a lot of triflin stuff up his sleeves

...

Family and heir angle, GoT has me so open to that shit lol

And there's not as much singing as I thought and I actually have liked most of the songs

I don't really like the middle son's voice that much but otherwise him tataji and the youngest son are my favs

the official version is tight even w/ that garbage hook.

is a legit radio cut. I'm glad they didn't cheese it up with half-assed song production.

drip, drop....drip, drip, drip, drop

shit is fire.

that shit sounded like a slapper

this crazy

last night ep was real good too. cookie done fucked around and got herself set up.

its ok, kinda good but i wouldnt say great. on the same level as scandal imo.

its really really ghetto tho. like ghetto AND hood.

a lot of bad acting that taraji ends up carrying.

i really really like the gay son.

Not my cup o' tea, but I'm kinda glad it's doing' numbers.

right villian and chemistry though as Much as I dig Terrence Howard he is kinda canada dry on the show in places.

however sex,drugs, music industry lore myth and reality makes a compelling drama and it will stay solid.

truth is being on Network tv is the cherry on top because on cable they might be lumped with 50's show and get a select eye view.

this is a proven formula and it works despite obvious kinks in it.

the show is 2nd tier level type of tv show however timing is key and it works

https://www.facebook.com/billy.griffin.007/posts/717625805019422?pnref=story

Billy Griffin
February 6 at 9:25am · Edited ·
"A KU KLUX KLAN PRODUCTION IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING"

Make no doubt about it...
this is where the financing for this show is coming from.
The Koch Brothers or Rupert Murdock.
You can defend ‪#‎EMPIRE‬ all you want.
But it takes a far right, "Anti-Obama", bigoted network like Fox TV to put a low life depiction like this minstrel show on the air.
Yet once again, African Americans have been "Bamboozled & Hoodwinked" into sucking down whatever social cripplling, mud-slosh Hollywood wants to throw our way.
Just to see ourselves on Television.
This is a show about blacks murdering blacks, ex-felons from prison running their families, black businessmen operating on the fringes of the law (who just happen to get their operating capital from selling drugs) Pimps of black and white women and pimps of the black community, backstabbing black females who spew mindless ebonics, uneducated young African Americans who can only sing, gossip and dance. In other words the cast of "Empire".
Every degrading stereotype, (sans-black face) that a one hour drama could possibly cram together.
DW Griffith (Ku Klux Klansman and film maker) would have love this writing...
and called it "Birth Of A Hip Hop Nation".
BILLY GRIFFIN

Yeah....I'm on my race man shit...But this^^^^is idiotic trying-to-be-intellectual, weak tea bullshit...

People need to read this Op-Ed piece on people doing too much when it comes to critical break-down of Empire. Not a huge fan of the ol "Hating" fall back....Kinda lazy. But his overall point is valid...

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Dear Empire Critics, Stop Hating. You Just Don't Get It.
Ernest Owens

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ernest-owens/dear-empire-critics-stop-_b_6594916.html

Dear Empire critics,

In a society that is currently more observant of media and entertainment pitfalls than ever before, sometimes we are too quick to judge. The speedy jolt of a tweet to pass prejudgment, or the too-full-of-assumptions Facebook essay to sound off on a quick observation, continues to reflect a culture that misinforms more quickly than it educates.

To all those who quickly critiqued Oscar-nominated filmmaker Lee Daniels' groundbreaking prime-time drama Empire as nothing more than another television show that is "failing black people": Take several seats and look carefully.

Your misplaced condemnation proves not only that you are showcasing total personal bias but that you are also out of touch.

Critics who pan this show are typically divided into two spheres: They're either advocates of making black television a respectability-politics showcase or they want to improperly use critical race theory.

The former wants programs that showcase blacks in a "proper" light, living behind nice picket fences with both parents in the household and all the children getting along just fine and no "ratchetry" to be found among this well-educated faith-based unit. Basically, these narrow-minded critics secretly desire to recreate The Cosby Show in any way possible, because it makes them feel acceptable under the white perception of a fantasied middle-class black family that ignores the socioeconomic disparity of their peers in America.

The latter also wants to police black imagery. They try to apply very strategic and scholarly approaches to every single aspect of the show. If there are gay black men in the episode, they are quick to misconstrue the inclusion and rather inappropriately cite all the times mainstream programs "emasculated the black man." If they see that a black woman is ever upset or violent, they are quick to act as though the media is in a conspiracy to depict the "angry black woman" trope at every opportunity. They ignore the context of a plot and setting and apply everything they see to their academic prerogative.

What both of these types of critics have failed to realize is that Daniels is a black gay man who is getting the chance to artistically produce his imagination and expression of society for network television to see. This show is not intended to garner white people's approval of our existence -- and if you have been keeping up with the headlines, you should know that your respectability won't save you. It's a prime-time drama for entertainment and reflection, people, not a political editorial or a public-policy initiative. Daniels is a creator who should be given a right to fully explore his cinematic talent without being constrained by the narrow social confines of "making black people look good."

If you are looking carefully at what I and the increasingly impressive millions of viewers are watching every Wednesday night, you will see a multidimensional cast of black characters who all meaningfully contribute to the plot. You will see various depictions of wealth and success, levels of education, shades and body images of black women, sexuality and acceptance, music and style -- a unique and inclusive look at what issues and discussions we are having in 2015.

The show is relevant and bold enough to be presented on network television and tell a tale that doesn't revolve around a white observance. Where else can you find that on television? While Blackish tries to show a black family adjusting in white suburbia, Empire owns the place. While Olivia Pope is chasing after a white president, Empire has their black CEO talking to President Barack Obama. While How to Get Away With Murder (which I am a die-hard fan of as well) has a black leading actress, she still has to put up with the racial confines of her self-identity and vulnerability. Empire has black women who are motivated, complex and self-driven while not having to take into consideration what white people think.

Empire is our Dallas. It transports us into a reality where we can see ourselves as one of the characters on the show. Whether snobby or reckless, gay or straight, dark or mocha, disabled or not, there is more to be seen from just the story line alone. It is one thing to criticize "reality" television that runs the risk of trying to depict black life disproportionately in one light as opposed to a scripted drama led by a black filmmaker who is guiding the plot.

For those critics who argue for diversity in prime-time in one breath but are then quick to tear down a black program that hasn't even made it to its second season, check your reasoning. If we are to demand more diverse programs, we have to also respect the nuance in them as well.

No, every show can't be a black family sitcom or an investigative crime spoof. If we are to actually recognize all aspects of black life, we need to recognize that there should be room for the highly educated as well as the working-class. There have to be shows that have heteronormative relationship dynamics but also gay, interracial ones as well. We need to accept that black programs are not reflections of just our own personal and social views but those of the many multitudes of the diaspora.

Empire is a phenomenal step toward encouraging us to see more levels and faces of the black experience than ever before, and we should be celebrating that alone. If that type of subject matter does not appeal to your taste, then respectfully agree to disagree. But just like the many white-dominated prime-time programs that I see on a regular basis that I don't prefer, you don't see me on a campaign to denounce their existence. Let's give our black filmmakers and actors more respect and understanding than that.

The skill set from your high level of inspection and critiquing of this show would be best applied to the various loopholes in wealth disparity in this country or possible discriminatory laws that have yet to reach the Senate floor, not on an evening program that has not even completed its first season. Do better with your educated efforts and theories analytically.

Here's to hopefully seeing you as part of the high ratings on Wednesday nights.

LOL...i tried to watch a full episode, and made it about halfway through....it's just too much.... i could see why people like it...

we can't complain no mo' about not having "positive images of Black people" on television.

Folks were given a direct choice between positive and ratchet, and ratchet won by a landslide.

not smarty-art "define" per se. but what do we really mean? I usually agree with the categoration of RATCHET TV but this show doesn't fit with the others I'd place in the category.

(well, half of one anyway)

Not that Black-ish is the perfect prim and proper show some of these high-toned folks think should exist, but it's a Sunday school lesson compared to the excesses of Empire.

After Black-ish came back from reruns following Empire's debut, their ratings tanked and they went right back into repeats again. They really ought to move the show and put one something they don't expect black people to watch at 9:30 PM

hence my confusion over what negroes think is Proper Representation

The show itself is a goofy family sitcom - "Modern Family" with more kids and melanin.

and Empire too. ABC Wednesdays has been bullshitting with the new eps lately, but I would probably watch Black-ish and DVR Empire. my lady prefers the opposite order, I can see it both ways & wish they didn't compete.

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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

I dvr both of em. Wednesday night is loaded with stuff to watch.

You got Empire, Modern Family, Blackish, The Game, SWV, there ain't no way to catch ot al on schedule. And last night I messed around and caught a snippet of Nashville, and that was eentertaining as well.

There's room for both shows to exist, but not in simultaneous time slots. As I said above, when Blackish came back from reruns, it was buried by Empire's ratings. They went back to reruns and have the first new first-run episode this Wednesday.

One of them needs to move, and it probably needs to be Blackish. Switching with The Goldbergs and moving to 8:30 would be a good look.

Consideration for Black shows, it's like lets manage our scraps and that's such bs to me, maybe Black ish lagged because it went to reruns so soon and ppl didn't know its back

With DVR this shouldn't be such a dilemma

black ish has been very successful and I think it would be fine

Saying something like Black ppl chose ratchet is really offensive too. White ppl are watching both shows as well.

I think it's a great moment that two Black shows on are on the same time and have received great attention

because it's not that simple & there's other factors in play.

However, we'll see what happens. I still think they should move "Blackish" - even if you try to watch both shows, and to be clear, networks still value live broadcast viewing numbers above all else, how many people will really remember to turn over the ABC in the _middle_ of one of Empire's soapoeraesque plot twists?

but I think some of the jokes are questionable for that 8/8:30 time slot.

I would still watch Modern Fam and Blackish over Empire but ABC been bullshitting with new episodes.

Almost felt like they helped Empire on purpose.

That is how regular tv works. There have been good black tv shows before and we need to support them.

Or music vs. family sitcom?
Or hour vs. half-hour? (This matters because Empire begins at 9pm. Blackish at 9:30. You gonna sit on your hands for 30mins while everyone else watching Empire just to tune into Blackish when you could EASILY DVR Blackish or hit it on Hulu?)

Or Taraji vs. Tracee? (Light skin booty battle but people got sides)

Every TV choice isn't a political statement. Black people come in all types and I don't even know that I'd call Empire "ratchet TV". I lightweight "hatewatch" the show because it's ridiculous and overwrought but so was Melrose Place and Dynasty and every single telenovela. But those shows get to exist cuz no blacks? Hmm.

And the lightskin people are high rank?

can we agree there?

>can we agree there?


He would've been high rank in power, but not high rank in morality/good.

I can just see the scenes where Wesley disowned his gay son while Henson came in and rescued him from his evil dad.

There's still an overall light is better than dark theme on this show.

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There are 2 lite brites on the show. Everyone else is brown or dark skin

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>There's still an overall light is better than dark theme on
>this show.

Because lee daniels has documented issues with dark skins......google it.

corruption (if not outright evil?)


(unless Terrence's character is later going to be redeemed...somehow)

>(unless Terrence's character is later going to be
>redeemed...somehow)

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An array of Blk women, many of them heroines in the film

There is also a diverse batch of Blk women on empire and one of the most dastardly women on the show is a white woman

So I'm curious what is making yall say that? I'll try to not jump to conclusions but....

that other post), which include his own admission that he prefers lightskinned black people to all other types...I would go as far as to say that LeeDaniels doesn't care much for black _people_, and given his work he clearly doesn't care for any sort of decorum or tact.

they are saying above

to a gay men's center and walked in and saw so many black women and kids he thought it was a welfare office instead. THey were there for HIV treatment and testing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrr7izsQa-Q

I dunno if that was his attempt at a joke, but that's the sort of the thing Lee Daniels says that has people frothing mad.

Another okp posted that. I think the less I kno about him the better but I just find it hard to accept that someone who presents an array of Black women in his work can hate them

But maybe he does

LMAO

we do night time soaps well
this is up there with dynasty
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>LMAO
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>we do night time soaps well
>this is up there with dynasty


he said this reminded him of his mom watching dynasty and falcon crest

they even use the sinister stare while playing evil string chords in the back ground

maaaaaaaaaaaaan



also this woman got someone killed
on accident
odds are he deserved it
but still
0_o
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

he has been on set A LOT

lol i follow
jussie smollet and lee daniels on IG

ironically i was following jussie
before empire came out

i just started watching the show
but i was wondering why he was always with all of them
all the time
then i watched the show

>ironically i was following jussie
>before empire came out

i was trying SO hard not to!
i got curious about jurnee's siblings for some reason when she popped up on true blood
(oh i found out she got married)
and he seemed to be the most active on social media

i didn't know his age
(31)
and i was like you need to stop
but hes soooo cute

i still wont follow him on IG though
lol


>i just started watching the show
>but i was wondering why he was always with all of them
>all the time
>then i watched the show


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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

i really do like his IG
he is why i started watching empire
just from his IG
i felt like i wanted to support him

of but jurnee and the oldest sister jazz
OMG they are twins
its scary
like really scary

>i really do like his IG
>he is why i started watching empire
>just from his IG
>i felt like i wanted to support him
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>of but jurnee and the oldest sister jazz
>OMG they are twins
>its scary
>like really scary
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lol!
but still i try not to there have been so many disappointments with these celebrities
Jesse Williams has been the only one
but since i saw him and his wife at an art opening i had a suspicion
and man did it pay off
hes awesome
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

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I love me some cookie!

and they made a whack-a-mole game out of her Empire cast mates.

The device didn't work properly at first, so this girl just stood there and hit the Boo Boo Kitty whack-a-mole like fifty-eleven times for no damn reason LOLOLOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kva8uIAf7Dc#t=563

-do you think the assistant girl will do something shady?

- i loved how jamal took up for cookie to malcom (is that the youngest name?)

-oh i knew that rayvn was going to be on the ep
im so EXCITED!

- can yall explain what happened with malik yoba
what is going on there? i missed the beginning

-as someone in pharma
i was cringing when he took that medicine

I bet she flips it on ole girl.

I missed a little bit with Malik Yoba but I think he is cleaning this up for Terrance but will use it against him at a later date.

I barely recognized Raven but I love how this show is bringing Black actors together.

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>I barely recognized Raven but I love how this show is bringing
>Black actors together.
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everyone has made a cameo
caliber actors too
like cuba gooding jr.

oh i found out that patti
will be one the finale

debbie allen
directs a lot of the episodes too
her and mario van peebles

brings me back to her days directing/casting A Different World. Patti always shows up when Debbie Allen is involved.

good for him
=)


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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

Was my first time watching most of an episode.

who reminds me of a treasure troll.

also I need that I wanna love you song :)

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probably the best episode yet.
that shit at the end bowled me over.

or whatever his name was. And now that I think of it, I don't know Malik Yoba's name either. He'll just be "Malik Yoba" from here on out.

Anyway, Malik Yoba found out about the murder and told Lucious he was going to increase security and then he hired a guy to take the fall for the murder.

But that scene with him and the white guy hiring the guy to take the fall was one of the dumbest things in this show. Why did Malik Yoba have to show up to the money drop? The goal is to insulate Lucious from this murder. So all he had to do was to give the money to the white guy who would in turn hire the patsy. By showing up to the meet, Malik Yoba exposes himself. The Patsy asked, "Who am I taking the fall for?". So he doesn't even know. But if the cops start to snoop or Patsy has second thoughts, he can give up Malik Yoba who is a direct line to Lucious.

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>- can yall explain what happened with malik yoba
>what is going on there? i missed the beginning

-why did he choke out the oldest boy

- who is the dark haired guy he is talking to?

he lied and gave Lucious an alibi. I guess Malik Yoba didn't like that he lied and kept it from him because I guess CEOs murdering people and covering it up doesn't look good pre-IPO.

I don't know what dark haired guy you're talking about. The white lawyer? He's the one who found the Patsy to take the fall for Lucious.

>-why did he choke out the oldest boy
>
>- who is the dark haired guy he is talking to?

the fat one that found the patsy when they exchanged money

then another one that malik is always walking with outside

Malik Yoba was talking to him saying he thought about quitting his job and all that? I assumed it was some sort of AA/Narco Anonymous sponsor or something

was his AA sponsor

lol

That was beautiful

What I'm wondering is if the relationship between Jamal and his partner was destined to fall because he was blowing up, or because Cookie put that idea out there and they just followed suit.

Overall, great episode. Even though Vernon (Malik Yoba) is schemin', to have a fall guy on tap is a great resource.

This show is a beast!

this show is not very good... but i guess it is kinda entertaining...

http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-print/tv-ratings-cookie-monster-builds-as-empire-rises-again-for-fox-wednesday

TV Ratings: Cookie monster builds as 'Empire' rises again for FOX Wednesday


'American Idol' slips, while all three CBS dramas rise
By Daniel Fienberg @HitFixDaniel | Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 11:45 AM


Another week and, yup, more growth for "Empire," which continues to buck any sort of expectations or recent TV blueprint, maintaining FOX's domination of Wednesday even in a week that saw a dip for "American Idol."

Wednesday saw dips for "Chicago PD," "The Middle," "Modern Family" and "Arrow," while "The Mysteries of Laura" and all three CBS dramas rose.

On to the numbers...

Among adults 18-49, FOX averaged a 3.7 rating for Wednesday night, tops in the key demographic. FOX's total equalled the combined numbers for ABC (2.1 rating) and CBS (1.6 rating) in the key demo. NBC averaged a 1.3 key demo rating, followed by the 0.8 key demo rating for The CW on the night.

Overall, FOX averaged an estimated 11.16 million viewers and a 6.8 rating/11 share for Wednesday primetime, far ahead of the 8.87 million viewers and 5.7/10 for CBS for the night. ABC's 4.4/7 and 6.99 million viewers topped the 6.2 million viewers and 4.0/7 averaged by NBC. The CW averaged 1.3/2 and 2.09 million viewers for the night.

8 p.m. - Even with a drop, FOX's "American Idol" won the 8 p.m. hour with 10.4 million viewers and a 2.7 rating among adults 18-49. CBS' "The Mentalist" was second with 9.05 million viewers and third with a 1.5 key demo rating. ABC's "The Middle" (7.91 million and a 2.1 key demo) and "The Goldbergs" (6.95 million and a 2.3 key demo) easily topped the 5.95 million viewers and 1.1 key demo rating for NBC's "The Mysteries of Laura." The CW's "Arrow" averaged 2.59 million viewers and a 1.0 key demo rating.

9 p.m. - "Empire" ruled the 9 p.m. hour with 11.92 million viewers and a 4.7 rating among adults 18-49. CBS' "Criminal Minds" was second with just under 10 million viewers and third with a 2.0 key demo rating. ABC was second in the key demo and third overall with "Modern Family" (9.8 million and a 3.3 key demo) and "Black-ish" (6.93 million and a 2.2 key demo). NBC's "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" averaged 6.17 million viewers and a 1.4 key demo rating in fourth, followed by the 1.59 million viewers and 0.6 key demo rating for The CW's "The 100."

10 p.m. - In the 10 p.m. hour, CBS' "Stalker" averaged 7.58 million viewers to the 6.48 million for NBC's "Chicago PD" and the 5.17 million viewers for ABC's "Nashville." In a rare three-way tie, each of the network dramas averaged a 1.4 rating among adults 18-49, with "Nashville" and "Chicago PD" tying among adults 18-34 and "Stalker" leading among adults 25-54.

I didn't see that coming.

This show's gonna be a hit.

Jamal to focus on his career. I have a feeling they are gonna introduce a more "famous" gay for Jamal to further add to their crumble

I still like Hakeem. I just really want him to get over hating cookie, he really has no reason to hate her. I get not feeling close to her but the hate just seems odd

So glad Jamal checked him

not like this

... suck it up and realize that he needs Cookie to make him a star and that's where they'll begin to build a relationship.

them two play off each other very well.

besides doing time so these little niglets can live the good life.

Bitch, that's somebody's life you playing with in continuation of this tit-swingin competition between you and Cookie!

http://www.fox.com/empire/full-episodes

it even works on phones...

i wish i saw this last night

i missed that part.

wildchild
was up so i kept turning back and forth

thought he would drop a dime on her but maybe he's holding on to it for leverage

.

thus far nothing

i mean...we do think hes a bum right?

in fact...basically everyones a bum, INCLUDING Cookie.

so if everyones a bum no ones a bum?

theres a meta thing going on here

& yes i know its television but the reason its resonating is because people on some level vibe w/ the characters

so please go elsewhere w/ the high horsedness


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg

doesn't look like they're trying to annoint any heroes with these characters. it's kind of like Game of Thrones...everybody does dirt, it just depends on who's motive you can relate to most.

when they make guest appearances. That would be cheesy IMO.

lite bright is foul and I died when she came in and saw the empty snifters. She doubled timed it cause she knew what time it was...

I find myself singing "tell the truuuuuth" at random times and I die laughing every time.

that shit cracks me up.

>I find myself singing "tell the truuuuuth" at random times and
>I die laughing every time.
>
>that shit cracks me up.
>
>

maybe it's the anthem for the whole season

anytime I think someone is on that bullshit I'm gonna sing it out loud while pointing like MJ

but it really does work on a universal level...i have a feeling i will end up doing this too now...damnit

He, Jamal, wants to "tell the truth" and come out.

He also wants his dad, Luscious, to not be on TV lying to white people about Kid Fo-Fo.

self esteem and settle for lowest common denominator entertainment.

Lee Daniels gets to project his gay fit to the masses.

Rupert Murdoch gets paid off of all of that.

I guess white folks are emotional consumers too considering that they watched the hell out of Dynasty, Dallas, ect...( along with a lot of black folks)....

Go on with this bullshit....

and tie in all the other issues we have the television ain't helping at all. (and no one is really watching pbs like that so naw).

Conspicuous consumption and excessive entertainment users with little production, control/ culture to show for it.

So instead of creating twitter you get a bunch of niggas on twitter wasting time talking about Empire.

side note I don't know any niggas running Warner, Universal or Sony.

Who would like to see a show about Clive Davis fucking his artist literally and figuratively while getting fucked?

How about a show where a Jimmy Iovine or Lyor Cohen character is berating niggas in his office on a daily basis and in total control over who gets promoted and who doesn't?

You got slop propaganda on top of all this madness.

Niggas ain't running no Empire in the industry.

.

Thank you sir good day.

.

.

pathetic

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/feb/20/record-mogul-clive-davis-bisexual


http://thegrio.com/2015/01/18/lee-daniels-empire-gay-homophobia/

seriously what?

you're analysis is what's pathetic. seven times out of ten. never fails

.

Cookie is going to jump down on Antoine Fisher

Fisher is going to tell he saw it go down

Cookie going to clap back at Anika

She will be out the picture.

Maybe Fisher will tell Luscious about Courtney Love and Luscious will snap...

Someone will commit suicide

Someone will kidnap that little girl for money.

A lot of show left

Or better yet...

Luscious is the father. His daughter is his sister.

She will be the rightful heir.


Andre - Cersei
Hakeem - Jaime
Jamal - Tyrion

.

Lol

There wasn't enough development for Anika drugging Cookie's artist. Anika seemed pretty rationale and professional up until that point (sans the panties scene).

every scene ends with a "oh no you didn't" glare from someone

unlike Scandal, which presented itself as a serious drama first season then took a left turn in season 2 and became a full blown laugh out loud soap opera. But pretends that it isn't.

(and considering I was too young to have grown up with the original - I was alive when it was on, but I was also a small child - I went back to look at some episodes and clips on YouTube and read through the season synopsis...and yeah....Aaron Spelling should sue!)

Anika sabotaged that shit because Cookie was about to show the world she could resurrect the career of a junkie.

Imagine a manager getting Amy Whinehouse completely sober before a relaunch.

She technically stands to benefit from Elle Dallas being clean, but at the same time she's being petty because Cookie is her manager.

And was it just me, or did Malcolm see the whole thing?

he dont care

>he dont care

i hate that i dont remember character names

Oldest son is Andre.

No worries, because I didn't know Derek Luke's name was "Malcolm" until this post. Still can never remember Malik Yoba's name. Have no idea what to call Naomi Campbell other than "Naomi Campbell". Courtney Love is "Crackhead". Andre's white wife is "white wife".

>Oldest son is Andre.
>
>No worries, because I didn't know Derek Luke's name was
>"Malcolm" until this post. Still can never remember Malik
>Yoba's name. Have no idea what to call Naomi Campbell other
>than "Naomi Campbell". Courtney Love is "Crackhead". Andre's
>white wife is "white wife".

Malik Yoba is Vernon
Naomi Campbell is Camilla (not "bae", as we learned this week)
Courtney Love is Elle Dallas (hooray for Closed Captions; otherwise I'd be typing L. Dallas)
Andre's white wife is Rhonda

>Naomi Campbell is Camilla (not "bae", as we learned this
>week)


deadpan "Bae? What is a bae?"

>And was it just me, or did Malcolm see the whole thing?

but it wasn't clear to me that he saw it go down...
but seeing him at that moment did make me wonder if their is security footage ...
i wonder if that is going to be the angle later down the line

I was sure he was going to drop a dime on Anika at the club.
>
>And was it just me, or did Malcolm see the whole thing?

but it still doesn't stop them from sabotaging each other at every turn because it's soapy as shit...

and yeah, it looks Malcom watched it all go down. I don't trust him or anyone else on this show.

Made her a pure insecure villian. I woulda been fine with that being left out and Elle being so nervous she gets high on her own

but at the same time this show has jumped several sharks since day 1 so we really shouldn't be surprised

Yesterday, they pulled 5.1 million viewers in the 18-49 demographic, 12.9 million viewers total, 60% or so Africa-American (more black folks watch Empire than watched the Super Bowl)

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/02/19/empire-ratings-guess-what-just-happened

The only drama pulling better ratings on TV is The Walking Dead

b/c i keep forgetting about it during Empire.

literally forgetting it's on. and i don't have DVR.

It's on there the next day.

and i can watch it on ABC.com the next day.

but the point is Blackish might suffer in the ratings if ABC doesn't move the show. b/c i'm probably not the only viewer who wants to see Empire and Blackish and forgets that the latter is on while watching the former.

If it's any solace, if people are watching online or on DVR a couple of days later, that still has some ratings value. Live + 3 days ratings are taken into consideration by networks.

http://www.couchtuner.eu

call. Really? Lol
And the two lead characters mediocre acting? This gets better right?

This program isn't any sort of an attempt at thought-provoking art. It's a trashy soap opera with musical interludes.

Lol I get that Hakeem's character is supposed to be like a representation of what today's mainstream trash hip hop is like, but damn. And honestly Jamal is no better either.

Also Terrence said that he hired Petey Pablo to do some of the writing on the music which I found interesting.

what with people more or less breaking out into fully arranged songs seconds after turning on a Yamaha, rapping/singing if not _to_ each other still _about_ each other to the audience (see also "Good Enough", "Tell the Truth", *insert Jamal song here*)...

Nothing, however, was nearly as cheesy as last night's cover of "Money for Nothing". When dem gals came out with TVs and microwaves on their heads and started doing the shimmy, I couldn't deal lol.

What interests me is how much credit Timbaland is getting for these songs, when, by his own admission on The Breakfast Club, his role as Executive Music Producer, at least in season 1, was only cursorily supervisory. Jim Beanz (who plays Titan on the show) is writing/producing most of these records himself; Tim may or may not be around and may or may not tweak the drums and things when Beanz is done. Raphael Saadiq is credited on some of these episodes as well - I assume he did Jamal's "I Wanna Love You".

>Raphael Saadiq is
>credited on some of these episodes as well - I assume he did
>Jamal's "I Wanna Love You".

i'm lightweight obsessed with this song

I think you need to share with the class lol

So what did Saadiq produced in episode 1.06? He's sure and enough credited, and Anthony Hamilton produced his cover of his own song from 1.05 himself.

>I think you need to share with the class lol
>
>So what did Saadiq produced in episode 1.06? He's sure and
>enough credited, and Anthony Hamilton produced his cover of
>his own song from 1.05 himself.

i follow jussie on instagram and he shared the credits for the song
it sounded so different from all the other songs i figure it wasn't timbaland

i'm not sure what saadiq produced but i'm beginning to believe more and more that timbaland's actual involvement in the music is less than portrayed

He says they needed the music so fast he didn't have time to really touch most of the tracks - just enough time to approve and sign off

i missed the breakfast club interview

jamal stuff is nice though.
some of hakeems stuff is.

it'd be amazing if they were actually churning out hits...however a lot of these songs have become vine/meme worthy which is impressive considering how many of them they need to churn out for a single season.

buy the music from the show

http://www.billboard.com/artist/6438154/empire-cast/chart?f=1086

Aside from those listings, "Keep Your Money" is #99 on the Hot 100 (the "pop charts")

its cheesy but it works

R&B or pop?)

and more than likely the powers that be doesn't want an hour filled with rappity rap, rap, rap

It just sounds like super extra trendy 2015 Rap.

The musician character the series sets up as the one to root for - Jamal - is an R&B singer-songwriter. He's not even a Bobby Brown type; there's not much hip-hop about him other than singing hooks for Hakeem.

That track he did on Sway was for real dope though, sounded like some Jimmy Cozier! LMAO

probably happen sooner or later

just like she drugged Courtney Love, Anika's pops is a doctor so he may be in on it too, lol

Concerned lol. But yeah I think that's a reach.

every individual on this show wants to control Empire after Luscious dies... they are all shady.

even the gay boy

For those unaware, Empire is an Imagine Entertainment production for Fox. Ron Howard & Brian Grazer (who is also the EP on this show) are LEe Daniels' & Danny Strong's bosses.

Also, I was wondering why they hired Ilene Chaiken, of all people, as showrunner, instead of - y'know - one of us. Got my answer today: she's an alum of Aaron Spelling Productions, and she worked on Dynasty. It's all clear.

My gf and I have been trying to revisit and finish watching The L Word season 3 as of late and I have a full hate on for Ilene and the stories she presented that season. It was all so offensive and depressing. Hopefully she's grown as a storyteller since then.

Oh and speaking of random tweets one of our local FOX newscasters was live tweeting Empire a few weeks ago. She's been a newscaster for like 30 years. Very highly esteemed locally. 20 minutes before her broadcast was supposed to start she was tweeting with everyone else about the show. Hilarious.

i was just speaking to a coworker about how much i loved that show.

but now you're going to make me revisit it again. i don't think that i finished the series actually.

Dana dies
Tina starts dating the most milquetoast man in the history of all men
Helena is defanged as a character and spends the season getting played
The end of Carmen
The demolition of fan favorite Laura
Jenny starts becoming a monster
etc

Shocking things for shock value sake and not enough good moments to balance it all out.

its just weird they all kinda like accepted her as fam immediately lol

but again im gonna just suspend all logic and reality and go along for the ride

the blip of an exit of the latino boyfriend was kinda ummwhat but it seems like he wasnt willing to stick around and jamal didnt really fight that hard for him to stay

cant wait to see who his new love interest is and it better not be a girl

i liked the moment with jamal and lucious and also the older son going nuts in the shower and his wife being there for him (altho i still hate both of them)

preview?

>its just weird they all kinda like accepted her as fam
>immediately lol
>
>but again im gonna just suspend all logic and reality and go
>along for the ride


she *just* literally showed up on your doorstep today already she's familiar and being picked up and passed around and now she's Grandpa Lucious's "little gangsta"??

ok, I'mma roll with it for now. LOL

>the blip of an exit of the latino boyfriend was kinda ummwhat
>but it seems like he wasnt willing to stick around and jamal
>didnt really fight that hard for him to stay
Dude was CRUSHED when Jamal was like I ain't got nobody special on the radio...that shit hurt ME.
What's interesting is how Cookie predicted that shit, and even Lucious was consoling him, telling him how hard it is to have a relationship with an artist.

>cant wait to see who his new love interest is and it better
>not be a girl
Jamal's pimpin man...he's got another dude on deck (another artist on the Empire roster)...supposedly he was in another show (my wife said a reality show, but I'm not sure).

>i liked the moment with jamal and lucious and also the older
>son going nuts in the shower and his wife being there for him
>(altho i still hate both of them)
LOL...the oldest brother is Mr. Sinister forreal...aka Mr. Agenda. Dude don't do nothing unless it serves his agenda

I'm along for the ride too fam...I'm not even that big a TV buff and shit's got me hooked

he is rich and has more than enough help to raise another kid. He also loves seeing his gay son reproduce.

Of nowhere now that he's getting some shine....I mean most ppl would want to be sure before they dive all in with a virtual strangers wife

Like Season 2 she's gonna catch sickle cell or something right before he's an opening act for that universes's Beyonce or Katy Perry, forcing him to chose his career or his family (this is after they built up their relationship over those years).

He's gonna try to give her blood and then (plays ominous music) is gonna find out she's not his, then they gonna introduce the real baby daddy as a new badguy (like, their universe's 50 cent or something)

I feel like Tristan Wilds should be Hakeem but my bae too brolic to stay catchin hands so maybe not lol.

he just annoys me in general

I swear this is some foreshadowing

both songs have a similar bass line and I can see the songs coming together in some remix

I mean besides the balding and beating up assistants...she still got it

I know the ratings are about to plummet though since Mr. Daniels airing out "our" private conversations LOL

e.g. some of us aint too keen on IR
some of us aint to keen on LGBTQ folks3
Mental illness gets ignored

-Cookie doesn't like Rhonda either (she said something to the effect of "why you marry that white girl?")
-We've seen how Andre doesn't take care of his condition
-The homophobia angle takes up significant amounts of time in the pilot, and gave it its "OH S**T!" moment when Luscious threw little Jamal in the trash.

The anti IR angle interfering with money..I dont think "they" know some of us are that angy LOL
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huh

who is damn near the only person on Earth that didn't approve of his other son coming out.

Plus, this is _far_ from the first time black people who do not approve of interracial relationships have been explored in film and TV. Both "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" and its psuedo remake starring Bernie Mac feature a dad angry at his child for amrrying white.

that kind of intolerance isn't presented w/o challenge. the point is usually to change the villain's heart on those issues.

sorry but it's different. We all know some people have problems with interracial marriages...

but this ain't that bruh.

Guess Who's Coming To Dinner is about 2 people who love each other who happen to be Black and White.

This conversation is about those who deliberately marry a skin color for acceptance and have issues with their own race.

Luscious says that but he's a villain.

There relationship is run like a business IMO.

She has a BJ bib and he tried to whore his wife out for investment money.

he's being presented as racist and homophobic.

he's presented as the old guard. a dying breed (literally - he's dying). his ways of thinking are on the way out.

i expect his change of heart will come.

watch this show and they get uncomfy with stuff like that, because they arent aware or think thats "evil" of us

but like b touch said, we shall see

that's a throw away line.

Luscious BROKE THAT SHIT DOWN. You can't run the company because you married a white woman and want their acceptance and they will NEVER accept you.

Nigga... that's some powerful shit to say on TV. That is something every culture says but....not on TV.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cuba Gooding Jr. helped write that shit.

That was an amazing convo, I bet a ton of Black men were sitting next to their white wives feeling uncomfortable as shit. LOL...

some people definitely marry for love but A LOT of them marry for these exact reasons and to hear those words...

man, I LOVE THIS SHOW

.

that tripped me out because i wasn't expecting that at all.
good shit.

>that's a throw away line.
>
>Luscious BROKE THAT SHIT DOWN. You can't run the company
>because you married a white woman and want their acceptance
>and they will NEVER accept you.
>
>Nigga... that's some powerful shit to say on TV. That is
>something every culture says but....not on TV.
>
>I wouldn't be surprised if Cuba Gooding Jr. helped write that
>shit.
>
>That was an amazing convo, I bet a ton of Black men were
>sitting next to their white wives feeling uncomfortable as
>shit. LOL...
>
>some people definitely marry for love but A LOT of them marry
>for these exact reasons and to hear those words...
>
>man, I LOVE THIS SHOW

I thought it was because he found out he was bi polar or due to his lack of talent...

shit caught me by surprise.

Lucious is right. Tht white bitch has be shown to be actively involved in fucking up the lyon clan.

Y'all forget about the whole robbery setup witn Jamal and Hakeem and who was responsible.

Yeah, terrance is the bad guy, but he was spot on here.

.

he went all the way in on andre. Then that studio scene. thought he was bout to spit some lame shit then he pulled out the gat and all of america gasped.

Jamal is a great artist. Youre so beautiful is a jam.

he doesn't choose Andre (or Malik Yoba) to run the company

and the you got a white wife line (and the breakdown) is exactly why I love this show, it's so comically laughable and entertaining

there is nothing in Jamal or Hakeem that shows they want to or could run Empire, because they're artist like Pop-Pop is even dumber

the Andre, wife and other couple dinner scene was comical

hell and on medication, there is a reason the other board members hate him.

And Anika is half white so Lucious shouldn't have that much of a problem with white people

it's all this other comical shit. that makes the show awesome

and right, all this Lucious spit that hot Fiya, uhh did folk forget the scene where he pandering to Anika's white daddy, lol

Them the rules

I see more and more youth to young adults who are Half white Half Black be adamant, that hey are white as much as Black.

in LA, i've even heard a few white folk hit me with that distinction in random talks about some one like Halle "ohh she's not Black, she's mixed". I'm like huh...

for the podunk rural America I think shit is still on that one drop rule, but for more metropolitan "multi-culti" folk it is changing.

i'm speaking in terms of socialization here, not systemic shit, by the way

lastly, in the world of the show, it seems like Ameka is kinda on that "i'm not a Black like you" shit

time i could see an old school Black father who feels hes been shat on by White folks over the year refusing logic and denying the best business person the mantle because he married a White woman

like that really rings true

It seems he's the only one without a hidden agenda (well, Jamal too).

and clearly the worst actor in the cast. I'm not feeling him at all.

him.

I still remember that pissing in the restaurant and talking reckless about Obama though.

>him.
>
>I still remember that pissing in the restaurant and talking
>reckless about Obama though.

At the same time he accepts/embraces his brother's homosexuality. He stuck up for his dad when he found out about his condition. Unlike his other brothers, he's the only one who didn't know his mother.

>

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"There is much temptation to use what has worked before,
even when it may exceed its effective scope."

"Roll me further bitch"

hes playing an angry Black and spoiled teen with mommy issues, what is missing from his performance to u ppl?

http://deadline.com/2015/02/empire-ratings-rise-up-lee-daniels-danny-strong-fox-1201381970/

‘Empire’ Ratings Rise For Unprecedented Seventh Week In A Row
by Dominic Patten

February 26, 2015 8:06am


The Legacy album might be stopped, at least for the time being, but it seems Empire (5.3/15) can’t be stopped by the usual ratings rules. It certainly couldn’t be quelled last night by the double debut of new seasons of Survivor and The Amazing Race. Perhaps “unprecedented” or “juggernaut” are becoming too weak now to describe the Fox hip-hop family drama’s results as it has hit a new high for the seventh consecutive week.


In early fast nationals numbers, last night’s Empire was up 2% from last week’s final numbers. Compared to the 5.1 preliminary result of its February 18 episode, it rose 4%. In total viewers, Empire on Wednesday was watched by 13.8 million to easily be the night’s top show. That’s also a 6% bop up from last week’s total audience.

Those rises were indicated in meter market ratings earlier this morning where the series created by Lee Daniels, Brian Grazer and Danny Strong got a 9.2/14. That’s a 4% rise over its February 18 show, which got an 8.8/13 – the previous record holder. In fast nationals, last week’s primetime-topping episode went on to get a 5.2/15 rating in adults 18-49 with 13.0 million total viewers. Long story short: Fox has come back strong as the Terrance Howard and Taraji P. Henson series started out with an impressive 3.8 rating and 9.9 million viewers in its January 7 debut and has never looked back. In fact , up 39% from its debut, Empire has grown more than any new network drama since the first year of House back in 2004. Obviously quickly renewed by the network for a second season, there are four more episodes of breakout hit Empire left in its freshman season with a double shot on March 18 – will the rise continue?

With American Idol getting a 7.1/11 in MM results, Fox ended up easily winning the night overall. With 55 of 56 markets reporting, the network had a 8.1/13 result – a rise of 12% from last week. NBC was second with a 5.2/8, CBS next with a 4.7/8 and ABC fourth with a 4.6/7. We’ll update with more fast nationals for Survivor’s 30th season debut, Amazing Race’s 26th season premiere, Modern Family, Arrow and other shows on last night later.

Idol's ratings have been on a steady decline the past 5 seasons. They have not been able to launch any show after or before American Idol. The closest was Glee, but it couldn't sustain any momentum.

Idol's ratings are up year to year with Empire anchoring it.

U would be wrong, sir......

that watches Idol likes Empire as well
>
>U would be wrong, sir......

i just turn to fox at 9

or vice versa

Nah...because American Idol's ratings have actually gone up for the first time in years....And I think that has a lot to do with Empire shining a light on FOX overall, which before Empire had been coming in 4th place for a minute....

https://twitter.com/TVMoJoe/status/570977289791365120

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEoNUfEhH8o#t=58

that music tho, lmao

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/02/25/empire-danny-strong-blog

Empire co-creator Danny Strong recaps the latest episode -- and reveals the series' original title

by Danny Strong • @Dannystrong

Posted February 25 2015 — 3:26 PM EST

Empire’s most recent episode is a drama-filled hour (Jamal finally came out! Cookie gave a verbal beatdown to Camilla!), but it’s also notable for another reason: It marked the directorial debut of co-creator Danny Strong (The Butler, Game Change). In this exclusive blog post, Strong details why he chose this episode to helm—and what he was calling the show before settling on Empire.


The Lyon’s Roar was actually my first title for the series Empire. As you can see, I’m pretty bad at titles. Fox quickly (and rightly) suggested we change it, and eventually the show became Empire. However, I always liked the sound of that title, and when I started writing episode 108, I realized I had finally found a use for it—because there would be not one, but two Lyons roaring before the episode was over.

Attacking homophobia was always a driving force in the earliest stages of creating the show. In conceiving Empire, I knew there would be a gay son that our hip-hop mogul would be loathe to accept. I had been working with Lee Daniels on the film The Butler, and he had told me numerous stories about his father beating him when he was a kid because he knew Lee was gay, even as a child. I had always been deeply moved by these tragic tales, and they made Lee the first person I thought of to collaborate with on my hip-hop idea. In our very first meeting where I pitched him the project, we immediately discussed making homophobia a central theme.

When it came time for me to write the episode I would direct, I selfishly wanted to make sure it contained the moment when Jamal finally came out. Since it was such a major part of the creation of the show, I wanted to have the honor of delivering this crucial turn to the audience. This would be the moment where the Lyon finally got to roar. And with one Lyon roaring, you best believe another Lyon will soon follow.

Lucious roars back at the end of the episode, when he tells Cookie the family song is dead. Her entire goal in this episode is to bring her family back together by producing a family song—but Lucious’ anger and embarrassment at his son’s declaration of self tragically causes Lucious to dig even deeper into his homophobia.

One of my, Lee Daniels’, and our terrific showrunner Ilene Chaiken’s primary thematic goals is to attempt to show people who feel the way Lucious feels that they are making the same huge mistake that he is making about gay issues. Our hope is that by watching this relationship unfold, they will start to question Lucious’ point of view—and perhaps this will make them question their own point of view on the subject of sexuality. Jamal’s roar hopefully will not only inspire other sons to find their inner Lyon, but will also show other fathers that it’s time to move past the backward homophobia of their parents and grandparents. Instead of hate and bigotry, they will begin to roar with love for their children, who are merely staying true to who they are.

Finally, I had a good use for what was initially such a terrible title.

Originally posted February 25 2015 — 3:26 PM EST

"...a man love a man, a man love a man..."

Luscious looked like he was gonna have a heart attack.

Bring back Michael!

Luscious. Jamal can't live for luscious so I respect it but i still feel bad for luscious being caught off guard in such a happy moment for him

A.
Trash.
Can.

And he's spent the twenty subsequent years making the boy's life a living hell.

That's what he get!

Cookie was right tho. Jamal's gay, Lucious is still Lucious, nothing's changed, nobody cares.

He tripping, but again, this is drama, I get it...

_except_ for Lucious lol

Lucious should have nixed it as soon as Jamal said he had his own arrangement....or when Jamal said that he wanted to use the song to tell his truths.

got a long tongue I hollered

"Ohhh, so Yoko wants to be on the song too? Well, what can you DO, Yoko? Can you play the tambourine?"

me, my cousin, my nephew, and my sisters boyfriend all break into so who would you choose Naomi or Taraji. tey both the same age and fine as hell. Taraji got finer with age tough

all votes went to Cookie

at the very least iconic in the realm of Black tv characters

shes well on her way

im constantly like i love me some cookie when i watch that show lol

also we had no elle this episode

i loved the scene with jamal and the lil girl...and i think someone else was right, its being set up for a reveal in a later season that hes not the daddy

Also,

WHOOOOOO!


Damn, she fine. I NEVER really felt her tough before now, but COTDAMN, son.

She fine!

a Liberian girl?

"who's that Liberian girl over there?"

I was dying

I LOVE THIS SHOW
LOVE IT
it makes me laugh and it makes me say messed up things too

like when he tossed jamal in the trash i was like 'what doesn't even make sense! that's not even a baby!'

which made my friend LOL but it's true! you think that lil niglet is just gonna stay trash? i know that wasn't the point but it was funny.

apparently it happened to lee in real life too which is definitely horrifying and sad but :( lol

so many low key ridiculoid moments

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I also remember her blatantly flirting w/him. :/

That girl ain't no good and I'm so glad Cookie saw her for what she was.

U can tell his getting some shit out

I'm glad he is being somewhat sympathetic to lucious tho and not making him have zero redeemable qualities

ended up in the crazy house but still.

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that shit was hilarious but honestly it was so real because dude playing Andre straight gave his all on the black out scene. He's the real MVP. You can tell that wasn't scripted, he just grabbed for it and fell but kept acting crazy.

I know they died laughing after all of that.

>that shit was hilarious but honestly it was so real because
>dude playing Andre straight gave his all on the black out
>scene. He's the real MVP. You can tell that wasn't scripted,
>he just grabbed for it and fell but kept acting crazy.
>
>I know they died laughing after all of that.

because mental health is talked about even less than homosexuality, and honestly, it's a bigger issue (IMHO).

that scene was amazeballs... the one in the elevator was pretty cool too until they calmed him down

but it's like yo... they barely acknowledge his illness


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and not all of it made sense.

How, exactly, was Anika/Boo Boo Kitty (I've caved) able to put all of Empire's artists into play? Did she void and destroy everyone's contract? Did she drag all of the personnel files into the Recycle Bin?

None of it made sense to me. It was entertaining and tense as hell, mind you, but just...baffling.

not fucking...

i suspended disbelief as related to the lawyering on the show after the 1st episode. b/c it was clear the show is operating in a world w/unique rules of evidence and ethics since the number of violations of both sets of rules in the real world are staggering.

Highest rated regular show broadcast in five years.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-empire-wont-stop-779386

i think
he just looks like he's having a blast
even when they interview there's that
im really glad im on this.

especially Taraji. she gets to wild out on every episode.

that was implied.

but how did she get sober in the car ride between?
showing up all clear eyed at the office

>but how did she get sober in the car ride between?
>showing up all clear eyed at the office

That shit was Hilarity Clinton

Taraji going I AM Legend on this

this show man,lol

.

I noticed it in the early episodes and just shook my head.

I dont know how relevant she'll be now that Hakeem and Cookie are BFFs but they've already hinted that Lucious finds her attractive so I'm sure she'll be another stumbling block between Lucious and Cookie

this waiting on lucious will get played out soon.

but have it actually work out.

we'll see next week.

:)

Camilla walks up to Cookie, and says "you were right, I do have a long tongue"

Cookie
http://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/TarajiWig.jpg?f66a58

"WTMD"

Hakeem walks in on them...

>Camilla walks up to Cookie, and says "you were right, I do
>have a long tongue"
>
>Cookie
>http://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/TarajiWig.jpg?f66a58
>
>"WTMD"
>
>Hakeem walks in on them...
>
>

i just started watching though

http://headlineplanet.com/home/2015/03/05/empires-youre-so-beautiful-debuts-on-the-billboard-hot-100/

>http://headlineplanet.com/home/2015/03/05/empires-youre-so-beautiful-debuts-on-the-billboard-hot-100/

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i wish they'd play it on the radio
he did an interview on wbls and they played it then but that was it i think
it's the one song i bought from the show

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEXax-Q_pc

From Jussie, Amber Ojeda, Self, Adrian hibbs, Sonia from the Voice. He has dope production.

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I go into the break room and these chics was singing this joint like it was the new black anthem....

Gabby Sidibe.

That's why the lyrics are about a big girl (well, a big boy in Jamal's version).

(by way of Prince)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ5mRnVHDns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgDRRdEpicw

as the camera was panning down i was like no...not enough body

he tried though!

i appreciated the effort
lol!
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I've ever fucking seenl. I'm not surprised it does well tho, its basically a soap opera version of a season of Love And Hip Hop mixed with hilarious musical performances. This is up there with Honey, Save The Last Dance type hilarity.

But kudos on its sucess, but peoples taste in tv or opinions are definitely side eyed when you pop up in other discussion LOL


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>But kudos on its sucess, but peoples taste in tv or opinions
>are definitely side eyed when you pop up in other discussion
>LOL

you shouldn't try
you just shouldn't

have a seat somewhere else
i'm getting tired of tv snobs
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You are seriously gonna sit here with a straight face and tell me this clip below is an example of good television? Are u fucking kidding me lol Forget good television since u think anyone who judges tv is a snob if they disagree lol..Is this.good anything? This is up there with a performance from Glee. This made Ryan Leslie look cool lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l7mxlADi7I

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I might actually watch an episode just for that.

http://revolt.tv/news/charles-hamilton-set-to-appear-on-empire-talks-struggles-and-comeback/26E83310-EBF0-4809-8E7D-D9E31CC6008E

cuz i would hate to see it get canceled cuz of Empire.

that show is hilarious.

Considering that I'm not a Nielsen house, that actually counts more than me watching it live.

I hate watching shows on ABC live anyway. They time compress the shit out of everything.

very interested in this.

No matter what, someone knows you watched that clip...and yes, that clip too.

On the other hand, live-TV ratings are calculated based on viewing data from Nielsen houses - predetermined households that Nielsen provides metering boxes that measure what you watch and when. DVR'd shows watched on the same calendar date count the same as live ratings. DVR viewings within 3 days and within 4 to 7 days are also measured, but broken out into separated categories.

There's like 6000 or 7000 Nielsen households across the country; their ratings are extrapolated to represent the millions of people in the country. That data is what is generated in Nielsen reports, which are broken out by dayparts (morning, midday, afternoon, prime time, late night) and generated into reports for the next day (hence why you'll often see initial ratings reports referred to as "overnights").

They also give families in some areas little booklets to fill out with their viewing habits for a week, though that data of course takes longer to get back than overnights.

As a non-Nielsen household, it really doesn't matter than I watch "Empire" or "Blackish" live. Though online viewing still has less of an impact on ad revenue and prestige than it should, for me that actually gets tracked someplace while my watching live TV does not.

along with FOTB and Modern Family. Hulu Plus

i watched Blackish religiously...until Empire premiered. it starts @ 8:00.

Drip Drippitie Drop n shit.

i need to know more about him.


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even when it may exceed its effective scope."

"Roll me further bitch"

(even though we all supposed this was the case)

i mean i watched a few eps & its so laughably bad its funny

but then it just went to laughably bad again.

i mean

the characters arent even one deimensional they are like...i dunno whats less then 1. 0 dimensional

can ANYBODY explain why lucious seems to have a hold on these people? hes a fucking despicable mess. hes a terrible human being. why do they care? can anyone explain that? please dont say because hes their dad. they only 1 who should GAF abt him is Hakeem

andres portrayal of bi polar is absolutely ridiculous.

i mean

whatever


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg

and Luscious is like Puffy, Suge, Clive all rolled up into one person.

pretty obvious to me why they stick around.

>can ANYBODY explain why lucious seems to have a hold on these
>people? hes a fucking despicable mess. hes a terrible human
>being. why do they care? can anyone explain that? please dont
>say because hes their dad. they only 1 who should GAF abt him
>is Hakeem

Lee Daniels knows cinema & Tyler Perry goes out of his way not to offend the public.

The opposite is not true of the other.

i saw anika grab a handful of cookie weave in the previews

i'm trying to figure out how i can be at kickboxing and watch the 2hr finale at the same time

it's going to be hard to avoid spoilers :(

Those are American Idol at its peak rates.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/currency/fox-getting-big-bucks-empire-season-finale/138804

Fox Getting Big Bucks For 'Empire' Season Finale
Buyers say there is strong demand for limited commercial inventory in the highly rated series 3/16/2015 08:10:00 AM Eastern
By: Jon Lafayette

WHY THIS MATTERS
Big ratings eventually pay off when a network finds a hit.

Fox is cashing in on its new hit series Empire by getting between $500,000-$600,000 per 30-second commercial in the show’s finale, according to media buyers.

The amount is several times what the show sold for in the upfront—between $120,000- $150,000. But that was before the show debuted and its ratings began a historic week-after-week climb to become the highest-rated drama on broadcast television.

“They’re getting Walking Dead money,” said one media buyer, noting how unusual it is that the highest-rated show on television—and the one most valued by advertisers—appears on cable. “It’s a hit show. There will be a lot of interest in the finale. It’s going to do a great number, so I would think they’re getting upwards of $500,000 a unit.”

Fox decided to launch a new series with limited commercial interruptions. Before last year’s upfronts, it chose Empire because it had high hopes for the show and wanted to turn it into a TV event.

Limiting the number of commercials is a tactic that is attractive both to viewers and advertisers, who prefer a more uncluttered environment for their commercial messages.

Sources close to the network say limiting the commercials has been a factor in the show’s popularity. And with fewer spots, Fox pushed for a premium price for the commercials that did air in the show. (A few years ago, Fox cut the number of commercials in Fringe as part of an effort it called Remote Free TV. But Fox couldn’t raise ad rates enough to offset the reduction in inventory and the network punched the off button on the idea.)

0303_Currency_chart.jpgMedia buyers said the decision to reduce commercial clutter in Empire didn’t mean that Fox left a lot of money on the table as the show grew into a huge hit.

“These things are so hard to see in advance,” one buyer said. “I think they did as good a job as they could, given what the prospects of the show were. It’s not really that strong a marketplace now anyway, so there’s only so much you can push price. I don’t think they’re looking in the rearview mirror and thinking they could have done a heckuva lot better.”

The March 18 finale is a different story, however. “You’re dealing with a handful of units and you’re going to try to get as much as you can,” the buyer said. “They’ll probably get a movie studio or someone else to pay that price.”

While networks often air the premiere of a series with limited commercial interruptions, Fox has continued to keep the number of spots down throughout Empire’s run. The show this season has averaged about 12.4 commercial minutes per hours, compared to 16 minutes per hour on other Fox shows.

The biggest advertisers on Empire have been Warner Bros., Verizon, AT&T, Ford’s Lincoln division and the Amazon Kindle, according to iSpot.tv. (The total also includes a substantial amount of promos for Fox.)

The popularity of Empire is also driving video-on-demand ad sales for Fox as viewers who haven’t been watching check out what their friends are talking about and try to catch up. Generally, when networks sell ads in on-demand programming, they sell a package of shows on the schedule, not just an individual show. But buyers note that because VOD viewers will order up only the shows they want to see most, on-demand usually provides a mix of what advertisers consider high-quality programming, including Empire.

All in all, the show should be a boon for Fox, whose ad revenue was down 6% to $947 million, according to MoffettNathanson Research.

Whether or not Fox decides to continue to present the show with limited commercial interruptions, any short-term sacrifice will pay off for the network because a hit show is an important building block in the upfront, and beyond.

“It’s one of those classic cases of a show just striking a chord at the right time. There’s nothing else like it on TV,” said the buyer. “It’s very well produced, with great talent in front of the camera and behind the camera. All of those things sort of came together at once and I’m sure it’s gratifying for them that when you can put all those pieces together, a broadcast network can still get a hit.”

http://deadline.com/2015/03/empire-finale-ratings-high-fox-danny-strong-1201395097/

‘Empire’ Finale Ratings Hit New High, Double Digit Rise Over Last Week

By Dominic Patten 39 mins ago
Empire

There were resolutions, successions, music and arrests on the 2-hour Season 1 ender of the hip hop drama last night. And for the 10th week in a row since its January 7 debut, Fox’s Empire (6.4/20) hit a brand new viewership high of 16.5 million. That’s up 10% from the 14.90 million that the Lee Daniels, Danny Strong, Ilene Chaiken, Francie Calfo and Brian Glazer EP’d series drew on March 11. Empire also had another new record among adults 18-49 with a 10% rise over last week’s 5.8/17, which was tied with the drama’s March 4 show for the previous all time high. In early numbers, the 8 – 10 PM finale was also up an amazing 68% jump over the 18-49 rating of its debut and rose 67% over the 9.90 million who tuned in for that first show of the 12-episode season. Don’t be surprised if those Empire numbers are adjusted in later ratings – they commonly have been.

In its usual 9 PM slot, Empire pulled in a 6.8/21 and 17.5 million total viewers. That’s a 17% demo and viewership rise over last week. The first hour of the show got a 6.0/20 rating with 15.577 million viewers. Put that in perspective, Empire was grown its total audience every week since it hit the air and saw its demo rating slip only once over its entire first season – that slip was in its fourth week show of January 28 when the show got a 4.3, down a tenth from the 4.4 of the week before. Empire‘s February 4 broadcast garnered a 4.6 and the series has moved on up every week since with the last two weeks being even at a 5.8. With those strong Live + Same Day results plus a very strong digital afterlife on DVR and streaming, Empire will end its season as the top series demowise on the Big 4 and just behind AMC’s blockbuster The Walking Dead on all of TV.

Speaking of which, the March 15 episode of the zombie apocalypse series based on the Robert Kirkman created comics got a 7.0 among the 18-49s. The all time high for The Walking Dead was its Season 5 premiere on October 12 last year when the AMC series got a 8.7 rating among adults 18-49 with a total viewership of 17.3 million. The Empire finale did top the 13.8 million that this week’s WD had.

NBC was all encores last night while ABC’s only original was Diane Sawyer’s The Untold Story Of The Sound Of Music special at 10 PM. CBS had a full slate with Survivor going head-to-head with the Empire finale and CSI Cyber at 10 PM. The CW had Arrow and Supernatural. We’ll update with more ratings as we get them.

-I felt it was cheap writing for Cookie to find out that Lucious killed Bunky through the talking in his sleep. He was sleep enough to do that, and to talk about how he doesn't have ALS, but then wakes up to grab Cookie's hands as she tries to kill him. Eh.

-Was Hakeem REAAAAALLY that much in love with the old broad for him to be that upset with Lucious? And Anika was really that low to fuck with him?

-Vernon's death scene was wild, but for her to drop the "I'm pregnant" bomb right in the middle was just doing too much. It was already a lot that she happened to walk in outta nowhere, and that he acted as if she hadn't just walked out on him. They just fixed it outta nowhere.

-Jamal's battle sing scene. Lol. Bitch.

>-I felt it was cheap writing for Cookie to find out that
>Lucious killed Bunky through the talking in his sleep. He was
>sleep enough to do that, and to talk about how he doesn't have
>ALS, but then wakes up to grab Cookie's hands as she tries to
>kill him. Eh.


b. Touch disagrees, lol, if for no other reason than it allowed Mario Van Peebles to shoot Lucious' nightmare stage-play style. The pillow bit is the only part that felt hollow to me, but...this IS Empire

>
>-Was Hakeem REAAAAALLY that much in love with the old broad
>for him to be that upset with Lucious? And Anika was really
>that low to fuck with him?

Yes, and yes. They'd already established Hakeem legit loved Camilla, and that Anika was evil.

>
>-Vernon's death scene was wild, but for her to drop the "I'm
>pregnant" bomb right in the middle was just doing too much. It
>was already a lot that she happened to walk in outta nowhere,
>and that he acted as if she hadn't just walked out on him.
>They just fixed it outta nowhere.

That moment was a little compressed, like it should have been split into two, her coming back first and then the fight with Vernon. Then again, they probably smashed both together (not very deftly) for time.
>
>-Jamal's battle sing scene. Lol. Bitch.

*sigh* That. This is what happens when you don't have hip-hop tech advisors in the writers' room.

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So cathartic.

gotta see how lucious get out of this shti.

and the super duper uber unreasonable militants that unilaterally trashed and condemned
Empire with their smear campaign have done more to boost it's ratings than ANY television commercial.

It's a lost cost.
Time to move on

Find another target to focus their faux outrage over


The more they hated on it...they more people wanted to see for themselves as to what the big deal was.

That's why for 10 consecutive weeks millions and million more people tuned in (and they STAYED watching it)

I thought of was "Malcolm in the Middle." Not sure if it is a good comparison, but they were dysfunctional. So was "Married with Children" - wasn't that on FOX? And does "Family Guy" count, even though it is a cartoon? FOX seems to relish dysfunction from my view point.

Mario Van Peebles put his foot in his part of the finale, especially the POV sequences and Lucious' nightmare, shot like a stage play with Bunkie on the edge of the bed looking like An American Werewolf in London.

That episode was, easily, one of Terrence Howard's best acting performances ever.

The second half was shaky. Debbie Allen was great at handling the quieter stuff and the stage show, but the soap-operaic material didn't come off as it should have. Then again, this episode was primarily concerned with setting up Season 2, and in all truth the script is of some magnitude weaker (that rap battle, SMH SMH SMH SMH).

Jamal banging out old boy on his daddy desk, Hakeem lying in bed with Boo Boo Kitty, and Cookie about to put the pillow over Lucious face was too much, had my pressure up

primarily because I knew it would tick people off lol

They got the fight PERFECT.

Run them pearls, ho.

It could have been used more effectively during the Cookie and Anika fight though. If Cookie would have said it, then looked in the camera with the Herman Caine smile, that would have been so awesome!

i love me some empire but last nights ep was a bit too much even for me

parts i was like come on now @:

hakeem and boo boo kitty sexing

jamals "battle" with the homophobic rapper, that was like literally the dumbest/corniest thing of the whole season

the whole council to overthrow jamal and lucious

derek luke and cookies one episode relationship

>i love me some empire but last nights ep was a bit too much
>even for me
>
>parts i was like come on now @:
>
>hakeem and boo boo kitty sexing

Made perfect sense to me. He said he was gonna do it too
>
>jamals "battle" with the homophobic rapper, that was like
>literally the dumbest/corniest thing of the whole season

Discussed above, LOL. The wink tho lol

>
>the whole council to overthrow jamal and lucious

This will probably be a thing in season 2

>
>derek luke and cookies one episode relationship

Two episodes! Two!

http://madamenoire.com/476148/10-things-know-raven-symones-stunning-girlfriend-azmarie-livingston/

http://globalgrind.com/2014/10/06/who-is-raven-symones-girlfriend-model-azmarie-livingston-photos/

she was on set visiting AzMarie and Jussie, and they asked her if she wanted to play Jussie's ex-wife since she was around. She was on set in like two days.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/11/fox-empire-season2

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Fox expands Empire in season 2
BY JAMES HIBBERD, NATALIE ABRAMS
Posted May 11 2015 — 9:44 AM EDT

Fox is expanding its breakout mega-hit Empire. Fox chairman and CEO Gary Newman confirmed he’s boosting Empire’s episode count in the second season to 18 episodes, versus the 12 episodes that aired during its debut season this year.

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Also, with Empire launching in the fall instead of midseason, the network plans to split its 18-episode second run into two halves.

The Terrence Howard-starring hip-hop drama made a record-breaking splash in its debut on Wednesday nights, defying gravity by continuing to grow with each subsequent episode. Its season finale snagged 16.7 million viewers and a 6.5 in the 18-49 demographic. Going into the upfronts, one big question was whether Fox would move Empire to Thursday nights, which is the most lucractive weekday for advertising. But doing so would also mean that Empire would likely face ABC’s own powerhouse, Scandal, at 9 p.m.

“We’d be crazy to move it,” Fox chairman and CEO Gary Newman told reporters ahead of the network’s upfront presentation on Monday morning. “We want to thank and reward our fans by keeping it in that time period… The stories we’ve heard already for season 2 will blow away the audience.”

While Fox does not plan to re-air Empire ahead of the second season—you can watch the full season on Hulu now—the network has a number of ideas to keep the show on viewers’ minds before its return.

“We’ve got a lot of big events scheduled,” Fox’s other chairman and CEO Dana Walden said. “The cast has been out—Jussie and Yazz —performing in various markets. They’ve done mall tours performed in smaller venues. Taraji hosted Saturday Night Live. We’ve got some exciting plans that will kick off in June.” Though Walden declined to get more specific, she did point out that Fox is planning to give the cast some much needed rest time before season 2—a smart move after the cast of Glee seemed to suffer from exhaustion after year-round promotion.

As for the second season, Walden notes, “We’ve also got amazing guest stars that have lined up to be on the show that will help us not only bring back an audience that fell in love with the show, but help expand it as well.” Empire has also signed Ne-Yo to write new original music with Timbaland for the second out.

Empire will return Wednesdays at 9 p.m. this fall.

>“We’ve got a lot of big events scheduled,” Fox’s other
>chairman and CEO Dana Walden said. “The cast has been
>out—Jussie and Yazz —performing in
>various markets. They’ve done mall tours performed in
>smaller venues.

And on the flyer, it was basically saying "Hakeem Lyon from Empire." This is almost some Humpty Hump shit...he might as well release an actual album under that name and image.

they should be laying on these promoters that "YAZZ" has to be at X font size, and "Hakeem Lyon from 'Empire'" at 0.25X font size.

http://www.eventbrite.com/e/empire-ft-hakeem-at-tabu-nightclub-tickets-16336857982

http://www.doyousoiree.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/IMG_9991.jpg

Headline doesn't even mention his name, but the flyer has his real (well still stage) name on there a bit bigger. Still jokes

18 eps split is a great idea tho

Viewers would BALK if they had to make the Sophie's Choice between the two biggest social-media events of the week.