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Topic subject | It's crazy to me that you can't legally purchase most DeLaSoul albums |
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12704294, It's crazy to me that you can't legally purchase most DeLaSoul albums Posted by John Forte, Wed Jan-21-15 01:04 PM
CD's out of print. Not available for (legal) digital download. I didn't realize that when the group put up download links to their albums a while back. I'm assuming it's a sample clearance thing, right?
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12704295, luckily i have them all, but where did you hear this Posted by astralblak, Wed Jan-21-15 01:06 PM
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12704307, apparently it's just digital Posted by John Forte, Wed Jan-21-15 01:13 PM
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/02/de_la_soul_s_free_downloads_the_band_s_long_complicated_copyright_tangle.html
but I can't imagine that they're pressing a lot of CDs of Buhloone Mindstate
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12704308, You can buy used De La CD's at amazon and ebay Posted by c71, Wed Jan-21-15 01:14 PM
if ya really want them
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12704315, I have purchased 3 feet, Is Dead and Buhloone multiple times Posted by John Forte, Wed Jan-21-15 01:17 PM
I feel that gives me the right to download them illegally whenever i want to
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12704312, I felt the same way about EPMD Posted by Dr Claw, Wed Jan-21-15 01:17 PM
at least one of their albums went out of print. I had to hit the used market to find it again
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12704377, RE: I felt the same way about EPMD Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Wed Jan-21-15 02:00 PM
Yeah Business Never Personal has been OOP for the longest. I had to replace mine for $30 on eBay.
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12704332, yup. it's silly for any music product to be out of print or unavailable Posted by SoWhat, Wed Jan-21-15 01:28 PM
for authorized sale in the 21st century. b/c that situation kinda leaves consumers w/no choice except to purchase used or unauthorized copies of the product. which leaves the record company and the artist w/o compensation.
they're shooting themselves in the foot. still. cutting their nose to spite their face.
i dunno the particulars of the DLS situation - i'm speaking generally. when i haven't been able to buy a music product via authorized means i've used other means. b/c i'm going to have the product if i want it and can find it - one way or another. the record companies and artists can either take my money or not. it's up to them.
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12704354, I thought they fell out with Tommy Boy Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jan-21-15 01:47 PM
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12704383, Tommy Boy wanted another 'Say No'....huh... Posted by GHNO, Wed Jan-21-15 02:02 PM
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12704526, ^^ this. Not sample clearances Posted by Brew, Wed Jan-21-15 03:15 PM
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12704410, Vinyl is readily available... Posted by ChampD1012, Wed Jan-21-15 02:19 PM
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12704435, ah, this explains the lack of presence on spotify. gotdamn. Posted by double negative, Wed Jan-21-15 02:30 PM
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12704440, damn...Hiphop is turning into Jazz Posted by gumz, Wed Jan-21-15 02:35 PM
are we really coming up on times when someone will walk into your house and see something that dropped in the late 80s or early 90s and goes off about you having a copy of...?
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12704510, maybe Posted by astralblak, Wed Jan-21-15 03:11 PM
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12704451, RE: It's crazy to me that you can't legally purchase most DeLaSoul albums Posted by Potency, Wed Jan-21-15 02:40 PM
Yea, I realized this a while back too... I used to have 3 Feet High & Rising but I lost it along with the rest of my CD collection at the time. I need to download that along with a few more of their albums ASAP. I miss those times.
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12704456, Actually, I'd rather keep the struggle post Posted by John Forte, Wed Jan-21-15 02:44 PM
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12704528, Didn't they give them all away for free recently? Posted by MEAT, Wed Jan-21-15 03:15 PM
I had them before, but then I got them from them.
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12704569, and they posted pirate links that they found online Posted by John Forte, Wed Jan-21-15 03:30 PM
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12705488, likely transcoded, too Posted by howisya, Thu Jan-22-15 11:11 AM
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12705491, illegal art Posted by howisya, Thu Jan-22-15 11:14 AM
i'm sure sample clearances (lack thereof) has as much to do with it as their old record contracts. you can't just take the uncleared samples out and reissue, ask pharoahe fucking monch.
still, a lot of albums (by great artists in and outside of hip-hop) are OOP and still more go that way all the time. it's frustrating. the time is now if you want a physical copy.
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12705554, is there no statute of limitations on this? Posted by gumz, Thu Jan-22-15 11:43 AM
might be a stupid question but these are albums that have been out for a couple of decades. could that really still be an issue?
if so, that's interesting. i wish sampling restrictions were less rigid. i get it, make your money, but come on.
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12705567, the music industry is a) unaware and b) timid Posted by howisya, Thu Jan-22-15 11:48 AM
i think the infringed upon have a few years to sue for damages but can issue cease and desist orders so long as they continue to own (and can prove) their copyright. that means the samples have to be cleared after the fact or the sampled material has to fall into the public domain (decades from now).
>if so, that's interesting. i wish sampling restrictions were >less rigid. i get it, make your money, but come on.
sample suing is a potential cash cow and not just for the original artists (sometimes not them at all because they don't own their masters or are dead)
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12705534, De La Soul is my favorite group and I think this hurts their legacy Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jan-22-15 11:30 AM
I didn't realize that the youngins weren't up on De La until they released their albums for free and people really didn't seem to know them like that.
I think music not be available like that is the reason.
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12705544, there's this digital jukebox at my bar Posted by MrThomas43423, Thu Jan-22-15 11:39 AM
NO De La. nothing. fucked my head up for the first 6 months, then i realized it was probably industry policies fucking it up.
its really bullshit tho. --------------------------------------- it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.
not compassionate....only polite.
I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.
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