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12703274, Floyd Mayweather still running from Pacquaio (link) Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Tue Jan-20-15 02:41 PM
"Hey, Whoo Kid, as of right now, everything is just rumors," © Mayweather
https://soundcloud.com/justwhookid/01-floyd-interview
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12703620, RE: Floyd Mayweather still running from Pacquaio (link) Posted by Deacon Blues, Tue Jan-20-15 08:12 PM
If this fight isn't made, it will tarnish/haunt his legacy
But at this point he may be more concerned with staying undefeated.
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12703638, it already has Posted by fontgangsta, Tue Jan-20-15 08:56 PM
>If this fight isn't made, it will tarnish/haunt his legacy
he should have taken the fight before Paq lost - FM should have been the one to serve that up, but he missed his chance
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12703788, Oooor.....Pac shouldn't have lost. And he lost to dudes Floyd beat. Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Wed Jan-21-15 05:54 AM
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12703801, That don't even matter at this point fam Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Wed Jan-21-15 07:20 AM
The people want to see him fight Pac. Not these other dudes he keeps setting up fights with. It don't matter to me either way because I don't buy his fights. I laugh at those that do and be mad afterward when they know how the fight is gonna end.
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12703629, Floyd still on that Top Rank $hit = Ain't Happenin' Posted by bentagain, Tue Jan-20-15 08:35 PM
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12703654, RE:Theme song...(link) Posted by deejboram, Tue Jan-20-15 09:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwHuEDCM7xs
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12703811, People are crazy is they think Floyd is running. Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 08:12 AM
. . . "Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."
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12703833, seriously...if Floyd isn't running, what is he doing? Posted by Calico, Wed Jan-21-15 08:46 AM
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12703851, Making Money. Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 09:04 AM
IMO, I think that Floyd will fight Pac in the future. But I also think Floyed hates Bob Arum with a passion and he's not going to help that dude make a single dime if he's not in control. Second, Floyd will make more money fighting other top boxers and then fighting Pacman last.
If Floyd fights Pac now or had fought a few years ago and won, then no one would really want to see him fight these other cats. He would have shot a whole in this money pot. IMO
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12703869, ok, lets run with your theory (which i partially believe may happen) Posted by Calico, Wed Jan-21-15 09:17 AM
....how much longer til Floyd actually fights Pac?? i'd think he was gonna wait til his last fight, but he'd honestly seem to make MORE more beating Pac now and then giving dude a rematch to beat him again....
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12703879, RE: ok, lets run with your theory (which i partially believe may happen) Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 09:26 AM
>....how much longer til Floyd actually fights Pac?? i'd think >he was gonna wait til his last fight, but he'd honestly seem >to make MORE more beating Pac now and then giving dude a >rematch to beat him again....
I think the fight will happen, but Floyd still has one or two more contract obligation fights for Showtime. After those fights are over, he'll beat Pac's Butt on either HBO or Showtime, but the money will have to be astronomical if he fights on HBO.
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12703872, RE: Making Money. Posted by tariqhu, Wed Jan-21-15 09:20 AM
>IMO, I think that Floyd will fight Pac in the future. But I >also think Floyed hates Bob Arum with a passion and he's not >going to help that dude make a single dime if he's not in >control. Second, Floyd will make more money fighting other top >boxers and then fighting Pacman last. > >If Floyd fights Pac now or had fought a few years ago and >won, then no one would really want to see him fight these >other cats. He would have shot a whole in this money pot. IMO
We know he's about the money and nobody blames him for that. but everything he's doing looks like he doesn't really want this fight.
all he has to do is beat Pac soundly and his hate for Arum/Top Rank will come out shining. right now tho, he ducking.
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12703884, RE: Making Money. Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 09:28 AM
When you're on top it's not ducking, it's being strategic. I think Floyd would kill Pac for 12 rounds. I'd call the fight 8 round for Floyd and 4 for Pac.
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12703913, how long does it take Posted by tariqhu, Wed Jan-21-15 09:52 AM
to build a strategy? lol
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12704093, Until he wins Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 11:20 AM
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12704059, RE: He would have shot a whole in this money pot. Posted by bentagain, Wed Jan-21-15 11:10 AM
Wrong!!!
if they would have fought, at least once by now
they'd be in the makings of a trilogy
whether you're a Floyd fan or Pac fan
what can't be argued
is that for, what felt like the last decade
Pac had been ranked pound for pound
right next to Floyd (and depending on who had just fought, sometimes ahead of Floyd)
by not fighting Pac yet, he LOST $$$
it would have been an all-time PPV record, etc...
if it happened years ago
and they could be on their 2nd or 3rd fight by now
instead, they're both fighting bums
and nobody cares.
you can't argue that Floyd is about his paper
and then turn around and use that argument for not fighting Pac
that fight is/was where the $$$ is.
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12704095, I made my argument and it's solid. Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 11:21 AM
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12704104, name names Posted by bentagain, Wed Jan-21-15 11:25 AM
what other opponent are you putting up $$$ to see either one of them fight at this point
?
can you name their last opponents
?
you can't make a money argument when he's clearly losing money.
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12704254, RE: name names Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 12:48 PM
>what other opponent are you putting up $$$ to see either one >of them fight at this point
I don't pay to see none of these boxing matches, so that settles that.
>can you name their last opponents >
Googles my dude. It ain't hard.
> >you can't make a money argument when he's clearly losing >money. > >
How is Floyd loosing money? Dude, don't you know how crazy you sound.
Mayweather Career Earnings Top $400 Million With Maidana Fight
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/09/13/mayweather-career-earnings-top-400-million-with-maidana-fight/
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12704274, ^^^ Didn't read your own link Posted by bentagain, Wed Jan-21-15 12:55 PM
"Even if the he Maidana rematch is not a PPV knockout, it will still make Mayweather the undisputed PPV king with roughly 14 million career buys for his 12 PPV appearances for HBO and Showtime. Manny Pacquiao ranks second on the all-time list with more than 13 million buys. The two longtime PPV stars are nearing the end of their careers, but the long discussed face-off between the two would still likely top the 2.5 million record buys set by Mayweather and Oscar De La Hoya in 2007. Time is running out though and the blood feud between Top Rank/HBO/Bob Arum and Mayweather/Showtime/Al Haymon shows little sign of softening."
now I'm no fight promoter
but I'd guess having the top 2 draws in the sport
fight each other
would be a record payday
I'm hearing $1B guesstimates
how many times does he have to fight the likes of the Maidanas of the world
to get that #?
can you see how that is an L if you want to argue $$$ ?
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12705011, What part are making money don't you understand? Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 07:52 PM
. . . "Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."
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12705125, I like how u you THINK u are making any kind of sense lol Posted by Heinz, Wed Jan-21-15 11:24 PM
but keep going with it *thumbs up*
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12703836, hop off...and face reality Posted by blkprinceMD05, Wed Jan-21-15 08:48 AM
he skurred
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12703863, RE: People are crazy is they think Floyd is running. Posted by murph71, Wed Jan-21-15 09:13 AM
Nah...he running....Manny P. has already conceded to all of Floyd's stipulations...
Only a SUPER Floyd STAN would still make excuses for him at this point in the game.
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12703886, Why I gotta be a Stan...LOL Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 09:29 AM
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12703845, that nigga is terrified Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jan-21-15 08:56 AM
it's not even funny or worth arguing over at this point
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12703852, I'm thinking he saves Pac for last Posted by John Forte, Wed Jan-21-15 09:05 AM
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12703888, For that 50th fight.. yup! Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 09:30 AM
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12704035, what if Floyd gets put to sleep? Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jan-21-15 10:56 AM
hell of a way to end a career.
Dude shoulda fought him 3X already..
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12705012, He knows that he can beat Pac. Posted by Case_One, Wed Jan-21-15 07:53 PM
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12703856, I hate to say it but he's scared.. Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jan-21-15 09:08 AM
who the hell wants to see these 2 fight once they are over the hill and ready to retire?
We needed this fight while both of them were in their prime.
Their grandkids are going to be in the stands sipping on some gin by the time these 2 fight.
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12703892, I have zero interest in this fight Posted by Beezo, Wed Jan-21-15 09:34 AM
17 years of the back and forth bullshit has soured me.
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12703919, Floyd is doing what white folks have been doing to niggas for the last 500 Posted by Musa, Wed Jan-21-15 09:57 AM
years = freezing your ass out.
While I would like to see them fight it makes more sense to fight Manny in Sept for his final fight and have a rematch clause for a 50th if Manny is not put to sleep.
I wouldn't give Arum any business either dude tried to ruin his career and make him a background singer to De la hoya.
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12704078, If my memory serves me right, Pac just resigned with Arum not too long Posted by bentagain, Wed Jan-21-15 11:14 AM
ago
that's not gonna change anytime soon.
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12704108, Oh god. Posted by Heinz, Wed Jan-21-15 11:27 AM
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12703936, He is afraid, there is no doubt. Posted by initiationofplato, Wed Jan-21-15 10:06 AM
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12704116, Who even cares about this fight anymore. Posted by Sepia., Wed Jan-21-15 11:28 AM
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12704247, definitely less enticing than it was 6-10 years ago Posted by gumz, Wed Jan-21-15 12:44 PM
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12704279, I'll concede that he's ducking Posted by John Forte, Wed Jan-21-15 12:58 PM
the minute he fights another Top Rank fighter. Until then, it's Floyd vs Arum.
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12704324, RE: I'll concede that he's ducking Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jan-21-15 01:22 PM
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhC3753xUzg0PV0Q7l
he just called manny out knowing that bob arum represents him not even a month ago dude is playing games and you can't take shit he says seriously he's playing his fans for fools. peeking interest by name dropping manny,only to tip toe off every time manny comes to the negotiation table all the while generating buzz for the unwanted fight he'll eventually end up making while avoiding manny again
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12704843, Yeah the belief that Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pac is Posted by vee-lover, Wed Jan-21-15 05:41 PM
becoming increasingly evident and that Bob Arum will be the scapegoat for Floyd to use as to why this fight will never happen
This is going to leave a huge hole in Floyd's legacy moreso than Manny's
Floyd Mayweather Jr.: No Manny Pacquiao Fight Deal Until Bob Arum Gets Out Of The Way http://po.st/rItxqm
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12704892, it's an unmovable road block. just pathetic Posted by southphillyman, Wed Jan-21-15 06:23 PM
i think if bob arum died tomorrow he'd just shift it to manny having to sign to mayweather promotions and al haymon or some silliness
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12704880, Funny how all of a sudden Manny is trying to hype this fight Posted by SeV, Wed Jan-21-15 06:11 PM
Dude only wants this because he knows its going to be his last big pay day
them asian ppvs fell flat
this fight does nothing for floyds legacy
crazy how Manny fans a week ago when they thought this fight was finalized were all saying that Manny is old now (despite Floyd being older) and that a fight now was meaningless.
Now all of a sudden when they think Floyd is ducking they're all clamoring for the fight lol
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12704922, RE: Funny how all of a sudden Manny is trying to hype this fight Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Wed Jan-21-15 06:46 PM
>Dude only wants this because he knows its going to be his >last big pay day > > >them asian ppvs fell flat > >this fight does nothing for floyds legacy > None of the other fights will do anything for his legacy either. Fight the person people want to see you fight
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12704980, What you said is FAR from the truth - Not sure how abreast you Posted by vee-lover, Wed Jan-21-15 07:24 PM
are of boxing and its history but there is no example in any era where the two best fighters in the sport and in their division didn't fight each other...
And if this fight doesn't take place, most of the blame for why it didn't occur will be laid at the feet of Floyd Mayweather
>this fight does nothing for floyds legacy
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12704987, ain't like if he fights him the haters going to all of a sudden give him his props Posted by SeV, Wed Jan-21-15 07:33 PM
They still going to shyt on him regardless
he embarrasses manny in the ring they going to say he waited till manny was washed
mannys run was incredibly overrated to begin with
dude built his legacy eating off floyds leftovers
and has been shytty ever since he started doing the Olympic drug testing
but im banned tho. ____________
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12705028, Ppl give floyd his "props" NOW - it's just that a potential fight w/Pac Posted by vee-lover, Wed Jan-21-15 08:06 PM
is the one fight that would cement his legacy amongst the elite fighters of all time and he keeps coming up w/excuses why he won't make this fight happen
And yes, Floyd did wait too late to make this fight happen because he kept coming up w/arbitrary hurdles for Manny to jump over before he agreed to fight him when both fighters are approaching 40 yrs. old
And now that's it's apparent that both fighters are in the twilight of their careers which I think gives Floyd the advantage, he doesn't seem eager to want to fight Pacquiao despite the fact that most boxing fans STlLL want to see this fight happen where it is estimated that it will be the *highest* grossing fight in the sport's history.
And however many ppl you believe will shit on him regardless if he fights and even ultimately embarrasses Pacquiao, just know it will 10x that many ppl who shitting on him for NOT fighting him
>They still going to shyt on him regardless > >he embarrasses manny in the ring they going to say he waited >till manny was washed > > >mannys run was incredibly overrated to begin with > >dude built his legacy eating off floyds leftovers > >and has been shytty ever since he started doing the Olympic >drug testing > > > > >but im banned tho. >____________ > >Dallas Cavericks LETS GO!!
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12705128, Really? LMAO i like how u tried to spin it but yeah no. Posted by Heinz, Wed Jan-21-15 11:25 PM
Like if the roles were reversed u wouldnt even be thinking this at all. keep sticking to the agenda for a second i thought this was Atruhead talking about Kenny lol
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12705089, The problem with this fight is simple Posted by El_essence, Wed Jan-21-15 10:18 PM
Floyd knows too much about the business side of boxing and Pac knows too little.
As a promoter, he is looking for promoter money on top of the fighter money. Plus there is an issue with Showtime and HBO split.
It's wack from a fight fan's perspective. Neither one of them are scared and Pac's advisor came out today and admitted there isn't a contract. So all that, "We've agreed to all of Floyds demands and 60-40 blah blah" is bullshit. They haven't been sent a contract to be signed. What they've done was throw shit out to negotiate in the media.
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12705131, Lets talk about the facts of WHAT WE KNOW. Posted by Heinz, Wed Jan-21-15 11:39 PM
And not what you know and how you are trying to spin it to what you WISH the actual facts are showing.
- Manny says lets make the fight. Trolls in his Nike commercial. - Floyd goes on TV and says he is ready to fight, wants the fight to happen, its in Manny's hands to agree to everything - Manny agrees to everything waiting on Floyd to sign off. - HBO and Shotime figure out how to split it. - Floyd goes on radio and says its rumours and talks about a Cotto fight.
If i'm missing anything add it. But these are the things we know that actually happened. We can all agree none of us know what either Manny or Floyd are thinking. We just know what has happened recently over the last few months. None of us are in either of their camps we are just fans.
Now with what is presented Floyd fans HATE that it looks like he's running as was once suspected. Yet as we all agree we dont know these guys or waht they are thinking but all of the people defending Floyd suddenly know what he's thinking lol. Just know that you look like fucking idiots right now making up reason as if you suddenly know this dude and are having meetings discussing his plans for the future. You dont know shit other than what has been presented to all of us. You just hate how it makes him look.
*shrugs*
lets just wait to see what happens and stop making excuses for either side. None of us know jack shit but we can all agree that it looks like Floyd is running. Whether you like it or not is your problem but just know we all see your agenda.
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