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12702331, Things you and OKP dont agree on
Posted by atruhead, Mon Jan-19-15 01:29 PM
spun off from this other post on page 1 (Amber Rose is attractive but she loses points with me for attention whoring)

Listening to his latest album, I dont enjoy the majority of Lupe Fiasco's music but I'll admit he can rap. they're going crazy over it in the lesson
12702338, Black Messiah
Posted by kingjerm78, Mon Jan-19-15 01:42 PM

12702339, lol
Posted by rdhull, Mon Jan-19-15 01:44 PM
12702353, ^^^
Posted by Ashy Achilles, Mon Jan-19-15 01:54 PM
12702438, After that discussion, I gotta say D'angelo in general...
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Mon Jan-19-15 03:36 PM
and I actually like him as an artist, but cats were over there saying he's on par
VOCALLY with Marvin Gaye, Phillip Bailey, Aaron Hall, etc.
Aaron Hall son! Marvin Gaye!
I pretty much decided I can't discuss D'angelo with okp.
12702450, shit, all things d'angelo after brown sugar
Posted by kayru99, Mon Jan-19-15 03:52 PM
12702462, YES
Posted by Lach, Mon Jan-19-15 04:15 PM
12702523, Definitely
Posted by BlassFemur, Mon Jan-19-15 05:59 PM
12702526, *signs up*
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Jan-19-15 06:06 PM
12702528, :)
Posted by southphillyman, Mon Jan-19-15 06:11 PM
12703177, *Gets in line*
Posted by nipsey, Tue Jan-20-15 01:40 PM
12702340, talking to people at work (socially)-I'm for it.
Posted by Regina Rose, Mon Jan-19-15 01:45 PM
answering your door to uninvited guests-I'm for it

buying something 'unique' that a homie expressed desired to acquire but hadn't gotten the chance-I'm against it


I realize many things friendship related I often disagree with okp
12702358, well, for starters I never quite understood the hate Common used to..
Posted by Somnus, Mon Jan-19-15 01:57 PM
get on here

some will deny it but I saw with my own two.
12702396, that natural hair equals some elevated form of awareness.
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 02:44 PM
12702442, I didn't know anyone believed that...
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Mon Jan-19-15 03:41 PM
Now if we're talking about it being an extension of said awareness, there might be
something to that.
Kinda like you're not a b-ball player just because you have a pair of gym shoes.
But if you're b-ball player, there's a 99% chance you'll have a pair of gym shoes.
More along them lines than "equaling".
12702470, so... If you're " black and conscious "
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 04:29 PM
And keen to issues that effect the black community then theres a 99% chance that you don't wear and have never worn straight hair weaves, permed your hair, straightened your hair, jerry curled , s curled or employed any method of styling that alters your hair from it's original form or texture...?

Nawp



>Now if we're talking about it being an extension of said
>awareness, there might be
>something to that.
>Kinda like you're not a b-ball player just because you have a
>pair of gym shoes.
>But if you're b-ball player, there's a 99% chance you'll have
>a pair of gym shoes.
>More along them lines than "equaling".
12702478, You smarter than this...
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 04:35 PM
>And keen to issues that effect the black community then
>theres a 99% chance that you don't wear and have never worn
>straight hair weaves, permed your hair, straightened your
>hair, jerry curled , s curled or employed any method of
>styling that alters your hair from it's original form or
>texture...?


if you're "conscious" then 99.9% chance RIGHT TODAY you will not have 4 bundles of 28inch Indian/Mongolian Remy in your head
nor will you have red+blonde highlights

you may have a jherri curl or perm back in 88 but TODAY you won't be rocking no RHOA weave

NAWP
12702509, yea and I don't necessarily subscribe to that
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 05:34 PM
But thats fine if yall do.



But I think that logic should also be extended to women who perm or straighten their hair as well.
12702585, some say they're pro-black but really are down with whitey on the real
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 07:44 PM
you'd be hard pressed to find someone with her hair
https://www.facebook.com/DreyahKarter


in either one of these groups
note how the "board of directors" picture looks
come with http://www.vissastudios.com/wp-content/gallery/keyshia-cole-hair-styles/keyshia_cole_blonde_hairstyle.jpg

and nobody in these groups will take you seriously
might not even let you join
http://uhurunews.com/imagecache/content/news/stories/2015-01/aapdep-s-newest-executive-committee-members/iec_png-CONVERT-resize=600.png

http://asiuhuru.org/ontheground/apsp-usa/
12702605, Anyone that decides whether they " accept " someone
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 08:19 PM
or would treat them more or less a certain way based off of how they style their hair is a fucking idiot. And it says more about them than it does the person with said hair style.
12702616, and that's why i stopped fucking with them type of groups
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 08:38 PM
>or would treat them more or less a certain way based off of
>how they style their hair is a fucking idiot. And it says more
>about them than it does the person with said hair style.


because i wanted to go out and chill on saturday nights with 98% of the other undergrads, dranking beer, eating cracklings and whatnot, they was acting like i wasnt "down for the cause"
shit was a buncha bull

im talkin the niggas with dreads, cowrie shells, they "sage" their house, walking aroudn smelling like nag champas, changed their names to Hotep and Khamir when they govt be Steven, etc

if i see a jawn with a K Michelle body and a Kandi Burress weave i'm not thinking she's the epitome of Angela Davis or Assata Shakur
12702862, I want to believe you...
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jan-20-15 10:17 AM
but I'm pretty sure you have opinions on dudes based on their appearance.

12702888, I treat them and accept them all the same
Posted by SimplyHannah, Tue Jan-20-15 10:29 AM
And that's with respect, until they show me otherwise.
12702899, Dreadlocs& Beard vs Ceasar& Goatee
Posted by deejboram, Tue Jan-20-15 10:36 AM
I gay ron fucking tee she would treat me differently if she saw me in those states

If I pull up in my 72 Chevy pickup instead of the 2012 Infiniti G37 she would treat me different as well.

That's just life.

Everybody thought I was earthy because I had locs
And would be shocked as hell to see me eating pig feet and skins
12702529, girl I'm about as militant and pro Black as it gets in 2015
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Jan-19-15 06:13 PM
and I do not have a problem wearing an occasional weave. Hair is fun to change around and it's a personal choice.
However the problem lies in some women who won't ever in their Black ass lives leave out the house without a weave.
12702541, ^^^^And there it is.
Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Jan-19-15 06:28 PM
I went out with a chick who straight up said, "But if we have a chemical that can make your hair straight, why wouldn't you use it?"

This was a grown woman who said those words in the year of our lord 2014.

I'm not a fan of straight hair on black women, but I can appreciate a nice looking hair style, or someone wanting to change up their look...

but there are still a lot of black women who don't look at it as a fashion choice, they still think the only way to be attractive is to have straight hair.

If I hadn't encountered this shit personally, I doubt I'd get so into the discussion.

Hell, I remember my dad throwing a bitch fit when my sister cut her hair, which is a big no-no in the Puerto Rican community.

Now she, along with my mother and I have locks.
12702543, And I honestly feel like those women are in the minority
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 06:28 PM
>and I do not have a problem wearing an occasional weave. Hair
>is fun to change around and it's a personal choice.
>However the problem lies in some women who won't ever in their
>Black ass lives leave out the house without a weave.
>

Yet somehow have been made the face for all women that choose to wear extensions period.

Yea I wear 36 inch weaves, I've had blonde and red hair, ive had box braids, I've had my hair permed,I 've two strand twists, I've had an afro and much, much more. And my state awareness did not change regardless of what hair style I chose to rock. I just get irritated when people try and put every woman that chooses to wear extensions in that category.
12702545, So...3 twitter heads = black men hate black women
Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Jan-19-15 06:33 PM
but the majority of black women have made progress on internalized racism and self-hate to the point that the multi-billion dollar black beauty industry doesn't actively profit off of this phenomenon?

Come on Hannah. You can't honestly believe that can you?

How can racism and white supremacy be so prevalent everywhere in society, except for the one place where you feel like you've made personal growth? That sounds awfully convenient.

That would be like me claiming that because I like dark women and natural hair, that a large number of black men aren't color struck. We both know that isn't true, so I'm curious as to why you think black women have over come this component of racism but the men haven't?


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12702549, I honestly do
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 06:45 PM
But perhaps I need to expand my circle to include chicks that think leaving the house without a weave or perm is unacceptable since according to you all theyre in such abundance.

Lastly that industry is grossing so much cash because the shit is expensive, and even with all that being the average black woman still ain't walking around with 4 bundles of
30 inch Indian hair in their head.
12702559, Wait...let me get this straight....
Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Jan-19-15 06:54 PM
In your worldview black men shit on black women constantly, praise the shit out of white women, and for whatever reason hardly any black women, who buy straight hair and wear their hair styles in European fashions haven't internalized any of the supposed hate for black beauty and praise of Eurocentric standards that the men are spitting out?

How in the hell can that possibly make sense to you? If that were true, why do you care whether or not black men say these things? It's not like you're taking them to heart. Black women apparently have been burning holes in their heads for over a century, not because they were made to feel like black hair was ugly, but just because you know, fashion.

I'm sorry, but you just set up a ridiculous double standard, and as a black man, quite frankly, I'm starting to be concerned about how you perceive us, because it seems like you think we're the only ones in this thing who are trapped up in this racist society we've got.


Also, if those type of women aren't in your circle, mazoltov, but sixteenstone and I aren't speaking out of our asses. I've lived in the south and the north, I've been around American blacks and Afro-Latinos, I've taught little black girls before, believe me that hair industry is profiting off the pain and insecurities of a lot of black women.

If you don't want to hear that fine, but I'm not saying that as an indictment against you, I'm saying it because I think you're willfully ignoring a real problem just because you're afraid that admitting that there is a problem will reflect poorly on you, even if it doesn't.


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12702584, RE: Wait...let me get this straight....
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 07:44 PM
>In your worldview black men shit on black women constantly,
>praise the shit out of white women, and for whatever reason
>hardly any black women, who buy straight hair and wear their
>hair styles in European fashions haven't internalized any of
>the supposed hate for black beauty and praise of Eurocentric
>standards that the men are spitting out?

Yea I aint say none of that, but okay.

>How in the hell can that possibly make sense to you? If that
>were true, why do you care whether or not black men say these
>things? It's not like you're taking them to heart. Black women
>apparently have been burning holes in their heads for over a
>century, not because they were made to feel like black hair
>was ugly, but just because you know, fashion.
>

Well we know this is true, Im not denying the history of what this is rooted in, what Im saying is everyone that chooses to wear a weave or straight hair isnt any less conscious about blackness or black issues because of a fucking hairstyle so stop painting us all with the same brush.


>I'm sorry, but you just set up a ridiculous double standard,
>and as a black man, quite frankly, I'm starting to be
>concerned about how you perceive us, because it seems like you
>think we're the only ones in this thing who are trapped up in
>this racist society we've got.

How is it that I perceive black men? Please tell me, aside from acknowledging that some of them have colorism issues and how black twitter niggas use twitter as a medium to disrespect black women in a way that they dont offline.


>Also, if those type of women aren't in your circle, mazoltov,
>but sixteenstone and I aren't speaking out of our asses. I've
>lived in the south and the north, I've been around American
>blacks and Afro-Latinos, I've taught little black girls
>before, believe me that hair industry is profiting off the
>pain and insecurities of a lot of black women.
>

I dont doubt this, but I think it is fizzling out. Young girls are very impressionable, but as you grow up, you also grow in self awareness and alot of those insecurities you once had you also grow out of. Thats why I think its important to have a strong familial structure who are also self aware and "conscious" that can enforce these things. Lots of industries profit off the insecurities of women, the hair industries, fashion industry, make up industry, fitness industry and the list goes on and on and on.

Im not saying that these issues dont exist, but to take it by an individual case by case basis because everyone dosent carry this hair baggage. And as the natural hair movement gains momentum I strongly believe that were seeing a decline in the hair baggage issues. Also as the natural hair movement spreads, their is a proportional incline in the use of hair weaving techniques as form of protective styling, and growth promotion. Lets also not ignore this either. Instead of the ole " nope all yall bitches just wanna look white!"


>If you don't want to hear that fine, but I'm not saying that
>as an indictment against you, I'm saying it because I think
>you're willfully ignoring a real problem just because you're
>afraid that admitting that there is a problem will reflect
>poorly on you, even if it doesn't.
>

I guess bruh, some black women have hair issues and some dont, and Im not gonna paint them all the same because they arent. Das it.
12702641, Yeah, you want to have it both ways.
Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Jan-19-15 09:19 PM
You keep saying that we're painting all of you with the same brush, because not all women who wear weaves are self-hating, or brainwashed, etc.

And yet...

No one ever said that, and no matter how many times you try to levy that charge, you aren't going to find anyone here actually saying that.

I never said, "All women who wear weaves are self hating."

My point has consistently been, "Yeah, they aren't all self-hating, but there are still a lot of women who feel that they need to straighten their hair or wear weaves to be pretty."

So we can disagree about the extent of the problem, but can we at least agree that I'm not lumping all of these women together? So you know, no one is talking about you specifically.

Okay, so you go with the whole, I "never said that" charge too.

Well unlike the charge you're levying against me, you do....

Make posts complaining about colorism, black men, the disrespect of black women, and internal disputes amongst black women. You demand that people acknowledge your particular worldview as indicative of a truth in black life. You assert that you have insight into why light-skinned women would have social anxiety with respect to their skin color, an insight I might add that is based entirely off of your subjective experience as a woman who isn't light skinned.

And yet...

When people try to draw a pretty clear brightline between these issues and one fact of black life that has been proven through empirical data in terms of money, and sociological studies in terms of how people rate the attractiveness of black people, you want to start in about how these things are actually pretty benign, and you can't brush with broad strokes.

So yeah, you might not have said those specific things, but your complaints, posts, and opinions all lead to you being just flat out ungrounded on this issue.

How in the hell, can you simultaneously acknowledge colorism as a genuine issue plaguing black women in 2015, but hair texture isn't? Even after seeing the data about money spent in the black hair care industry?

You honestly think that the natural hair care industry has been such a roaring success that it undid centuries of degradation? Meanwhile colorism, a sister issue, is still a problem worth discussing? All of those advertisements, the celebrity bullshit, etc. that contribute to colorism don't also contribute to hair issues?

Man that's convenient! Good thing the natural hair movement came in and set Hollywood, Madison Avenue, Wall Street, and several centuries of racism straight in like what? A few decades, and some how the black hair care industry managed to continue to grow, without a noticeable dip in the amount of relaxers and weaves the sell.

During that same time period of course colorism has been alive and fucking kicking!

We get it. You aren't self hating. Your hair is your choice. Some women have tried to shame you for wanting to wear straight hair.

I'm sorry that happened, but you're underselling the problem.

And that's whatever, if it ain't your fight it ain't your fight, but in the context of the other things you've said....

"I guess bruh, some black women have hair issues and some dont, and Im not gonna paint them all the same because they arent. Das it."

There really isn't any reason for complaining about social prejudices because you know, some people feel one way, some people feel another. Why paint anyone anyway right? Some people have color issues, some don't. Why paint them all the same because they aren't?

And don't say it's because colorism is a bigger issue than hair, unless you accompany that statement with a figure showing the billions Black American women spend on skin bleaching creams compared to dead people's hair.



"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12702667, You did say that tho.
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 09:51 PM
>You keep saying that we're painting all of you with the same
>brush, because not all women who wear weaves are self-hating,
>or brainwashed, etc.
>
>And yet...
>
>No one ever said that, and no matter how many times you try to
>levy that charge, you aren't going to find anyone here
>actually saying that.
>
>I never said, "All women who wear weaves are self hating."

Whether you realize it or meant to say it, you've said this before.


>My point has consistently been, "Yeah, they aren't all
>self-hating, but there are still a lot of women who feel that
>they need to straighten their hair or wear weaves to be
>pretty."
>
>So we can disagree about the extent of the problem, but can we
>at least agree that I'm not lumping all of these women
>together? So you know, no one is talking about you
>specifically.

You have before, so I'm just going off of the narrative you set. Whether you meant it or not.


>Okay, so you go with the whole, I "never said that" charge
>too.
>
>Well unlike the charge you're levying against me, you do....
>
>Make posts complaining about colorism, black men, the
>disrespect of black women, and internal disputes amongst black
>women. You demand that people acknowledge your particular
>worldview as indicative of a truth in black life. You assert
>that you have insight into why light-skinned women would have
>social anxiety with respect to their skin color, an insight I
>might add that is based entirely off of your subjective
>experience as a woman who isn't light skinned.
>

I didn't demand anything but for folks to stop painting with such a broad brush. I didn't suggest I had insight to anything I simply shared a story that a light skinned woman shared with me. And the whole point of me even sharing that story was to acknowledge how my own insensitivities toward their issues are calloused because I can't relate.

>And yet...
>
>When people try to draw a pretty clear brightline between
>these issues and one fact of black life that has been proven
>through empirical data in terms of money, and sociological
>studies in terms of how people rate the attractiveness of
>black people, you want to start in about how these things are
>actually pretty benign, and you can't brush with broad
>strokes.
>
>So yeah, you might not have said those specific things, but
>your complaints, posts, and opinions all lead to you being
>just flat out ungrounded on this issue.
>
>How in the hell, can you simultaneously acknowledge colorism
>as a genuine issue plaguing black women in 2015, but hair
>texture isn't? Even after seeing the data about money spent in
>the black hair care industry?
>
>You honestly think that the natural hair care industry has
>been such a roaring success that it undid centuries of
>degradation? Meanwhile colorism, a sister issue, is still a
>problem worth discussing? All of those advertisements, the
>celebrity bullshit, etc. that contribute to colorism don't
>also contribute to hair issues?
>
>Man that's convenient! Good thing the natural hair movement
>came in and set Hollywood, Madison Avenue, Wall Street, and
>several centuries of racism straight in like what? A few
>decades, and some how the black hair care industry managed to
>continue to grow, without a noticeable dip in the amount of
>relaxers and weaves the sell.
>
>During that same time period of course colorism has been alive
>and fucking kicking!
>
>We get it. You aren't self hating. Your hair is your choice.
>Some women have tried to shame you for wanting to wear
>straight hair.
>
>I'm sorry that happened, but you're underselling the problem.
>
>
>And that's whatever, if it ain't your fight it ain't your
>fight, but in the context of the other things you've said....
>
>"I guess bruh, some black women have hair issues and some
>dont, and Im not gonna paint them all the same because they
>arent. Das it."
>
>...and some women have skin color issues and some don't. By
>the logic of your statement, there really isn't any reason for
>complaining about social prejudices because you know, some
>people feel one way, some people feel another. Why paint
>anyone anyway right?
>

>And don't say it's because colorism is a bigger issue than
>hair, unless you accompany that statement with a figure
>showing the billions Black American women spend on skin
>bleaching creams compared to dead people's hair.
>

This is getting windy for me, some points you've made I agree with some I dont. I don't think we're going to find any more common ground with this, and that's okay. You're entitled to believe and feel however you want and I respect that.
12702674, Well if that's how it came across, I apologize, but looking back
Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Jan-19-15 10:12 PM
on it, I always put a caveat in my statements. If you say I slipped up and didn't, I'll take your word for it.


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12702675, Everytime I have a discussion with you, I feel like I need a drink afterwards
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 10:16 PM
12702676, Love you too.
Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Jan-19-15 10:18 PM
;-)


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12703273, I've had like 40 variants of this same conversation in the past year, lol
Posted by kayru99, Tue Jan-20-15 02:40 PM
kudos, homie
12702553, they aren't though because the numbers prove it
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Jan-19-15 06:48 PM
If that's not who you are then take comfort in knowing that and don't worry about what other people perceive it.

But you understand much economic power the 5 billion dollars Black women contribute to the hair industry is? That a B for billion.
Natural hair is still the minority in most places. I went to Tampa, Florida few months ago and those women talked so much shit about my hair.
They gave me side eyes or they would go out their way to say well Your hair actually looks good like "that"

My own mom, sister, aunties, cousins, both Grandmothers do not and have never worn their hair natural.
Yes in recent years there's been a movement. But even in that movement lots of women are chasing Traci Ellis Ross curls.
There's a huge problem that still exists worldwide when it comes to Black women and hair. There's no denying that.
It's still a significant amount of women having ingrained in them from birth that their natural hair is ugly.

Just follow the money. That speaks volumes alone.
12702558, Wouldn't even be much of an issue if black folks profited
Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Jan-19-15 06:54 PM
But all the money goes to non blacks which is ridiculous.
12702586, That too
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Mon Jan-19-15 07:44 PM
It would still kinda be an issue, lol
But not half as big.
12702588, I'm sorry you're not about as militant and pro Black as it gets in 2015
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 07:50 PM
I posted two groups of folks that are on the verge of that
you still running around with "whitey" trying to star in his films and not get credit at the Oscars or whatever

i'm not knocking you sis but i know some EXTREMELY pro-black folks and you'd get shunned and grouped right along with some tip drill video girls according to them
yeah, i know it sucks, that's why i couldnt get down with them folks
but yeah, if you dont always rock a natural and/or want to go live in a compound and grow your own vegetables, then you aint even on the introductry level of pro-blackness as far as they're concerned

and i base my thoughts on what i see on your facebook and instagram
check the facebooks of hte "pro-black" groups i sent and see what they're on
now THAT'S about as pro-black as it gets
12702593, yeah exactly you don't know me nigga
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Jan-19-15 07:57 PM
and I could care less what you basing any of your puny thoughts on.
12702594, lol
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 08:02 PM
whoops thought he was talking to me

12702597, nah he was replying to me
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Jan-19-15 08:06 PM
and like a lil kid he put up links that I didn't bother to click. He's going for OKP's #1 ass troll this year.
Lol at this nigga talking about caring to get credit at the white ass Oscars while trying to school on pro-blackness.
12702600, A nigga married to a white woman trying to assess someone's militant-ness?
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 08:11 PM
Nawp dosent quite work
12702614, i'm just telling yall what REAL DEAL "pro-black" niggas think
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 08:34 PM
i know them personally
how you going to have scantilly clad Black women all over your website and claim to be "pro-black"?
the fetisization and misogyny of Black women you perpetuate by even giving those things a "voice"
even if they are "vintage"

how you going to claim to be "pro-Black" when you rocking blonde hair?
at the root of you even liking or wanting blonde hair in your head is self-hate and thinking white ppl blonde hair is "nice" i won't even go as far as "better than" kinky non-blonde Afrocentric hair

and dont come with that "some african tribes had blonde hair....see the aboriginals"

listen, i know the "pro-black" crowd and was even amongst them for a while
but i was cast out of the group cause i chose an ivy league grad school over morehouse and i chose a white wife instead of a "sistah queen"



say what you want, but if you playing by the white mans rules and in their world, you're not "about as pro black as the come in 2015"
you can be "mid-range" or "luke warm" pro-black
but not the pro-blackity blackest i know that's out there

and im not trolling
just telling you what the entry criteria are for their world

this is to both yall actually
12702622, this only matters to people who are worried about being accepted
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 08:45 PM
Into or by whatever this pro black group you speak of is.

The rest of are us content with the state of our " pro blackness " and dont need or seek to be defined by their standards.

They are not the authority on pro blackness nor do their definitions of " pro blackness" hold any weight to anyone outside of whatever group this is.
12702629, bae, i married a white woman in 2013, you think i care about acceptance?
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 08:56 PM
>Into or by whatever this pro black group you speak of is.
>
>The rest of are us content with the state of our " pro
>blackness " and dont need or seek to be defined by their
>standards.
>
>They are not the authority on pro blackness nor do their
>definitions of " pro blackness" hold any weight to anyone
>outside of whatever group this is.



in my mind,
i'm pro-black
but i know i'm not "pro-black as there is in 2015"
because im not on some god-body back to africa kill all white ppl shit
i could care less if yall wear weave or perm
im just saying that a grip of folks do not attribute long ass weave with "pro-blackness"
just like corporate america dont attribute "niggas with beards" as "corporate material"

didn't ol girl not get a job because she had jada pinkett braids but the french ppl thought they were dreads?
shit be real in these streets
12702633, i wasnt referring to you persay
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 09:03 PM
as far the acceptance goes


>
>>The rest of are us content with the state of our " pro
>>blackness " and dont need or seek to be defined by their
>>standards.
>>
>>They are not the authority on pro blackness nor do their
>>definitions of " pro blackness" hold any weight to anyone
>>outside of whatever group this is.
>
>
>
>in my mind,
>i'm pro-black
>but i know i'm not "pro-black as there is in 2015"
>because im not on some real god-body back to africa kill all white
>ppl shit
>i could care less if yall wear weave or perm
>im just saying that a grip of folks do not attribute long ass
>weave with "pro-blackness"
>just like corporate america dont attribute "niggas with
>beards" as "corporate material"
>
>didn't ol girl not get a job because she had jada pinkett
>braids but the french ppl thought they were dreads?
>shit be real in these streets

Like I said, they arent the authority on blackness so fuck what they think.
12702640, Oh yeah I'm not pro black because I say nigga too much
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 09:14 PM
You can't be pro black if you say nigga
Something about the white man and slavery yadda yadda yadda

It's a lot of rules in pro blackness
12702639, all this stuff he's saying to me is exactly what you are saying
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Jan-19-15 09:13 PM
holding looks to define how conscious someone is. The revolution has facebook pages now.
But however back to what we were originally trying to talk about. I don't think it's a minority in the same way you do.
Only because it's just way too much time/money vested to keep weaves in the head no matter what.
I think a minority would be something like 5 million dollars a year collectively.
12702642, I feel you
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 09:22 PM
12702647, Me, you and Hannah are all on the same team
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 09:25 PM
We all are pro black in our minds
But the "pro black establishment" will revoke our applications for various reasons
Me: because I have a white wife and I say nigga allot and I also go to strip clubs a HELLA lot

Hannah: because she wears tube tops with her double Gs bulging out

You: because you have a SAG card and want acceptance into Lilly white Hollywood

I'm just pointing out the bull shit them niggas be on

I love fat assess, weaves and I love me some basketball wives which is filmed in Hollywood
12702657, Again you have no idea who I am so go play in the street or something
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Jan-19-15 09:38 PM
But you like to assume, keep making an ass out yourself acting like you actually know something about me.
12702668, what's the point of being pro black when your daughters family is white?
Posted by Deadzombie, Mon Jan-19-15 09:53 PM
shouldn't you be like pro-life or some shit?

what are you trying to accomplish, exactly?
12702671, The only thing he's trying to accomplish is agitation
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 10:00 PM
Das it.
12702631, first off I said that to Hannah in jest
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Jan-19-15 09:00 PM
I shouldn't even give you a dignified reply because your'e like the little kid that keeps trying to interrupt when a grown folks talk.
You the main one talking about just look at Amber Rose titties and going in on me about sharing Black pin up images.

If anybody gonna school somebody about anything Black, your clown ass one is not the one to do it.
I really could give two shits about what your friends standards for pro blackness are.
You do not know me nor my actions outside of your assumptions of who I am based on instagram.
12702871, RE: Amber Rose
Posted by deejboram, Tue Jan-20-15 10:23 AM
You know what's funny
In that post I never fawned over her
I think I posted one video in there of her twerking and saying i'd like for my wife to learn how to do that.

My first three posts in there was saying she was regular looking and then I went on to chastise guys about trying to psycho analyse her.

Go read the post again.
I'm ragging on guys for trying to break down her mental well being as a mother because she is posing in a bikini and pumps

How is that trolling?

Telling guys to stfu and just oogle the half nakedness.
Id do it in real life too.
We walking through the mall, we spot a fine phillie
Make a few misogynitic comments amongst each other
Until one of us says "well yeah she probably had bad credit tho"

Like who cares! Just take these few seconds in and keep it pushing.


I'm a troll cause I ask why black folks tear shit up (their own neighborhood) but white folk keep their shit up and in tact.

I asked if we can name a white ghetto in a city area
But no rural ass trailer park.

How is that trolling?

Other than that I post pics of shit I cook or tell about my nightlife /strip club escapades
How is that trolling?


Folks want to pop shit about my white wife but have never seen a picture of her.
LoL
12702906, Nigga you's a troll
Posted by SimplyHannah, Tue Jan-20-15 10:39 AM
You purposely antagonize people just for the sake of being contrary and messy. And THAT is trolling.

Lastly I hardly consider that stating that your white wife is white popping shit.
12702643, (O_o)....(o_O)....(O_O)...Wow. You're amazing at this.
Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Jan-19-15 09:23 PM

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12702652, RE: (O_o).... You know! What the fuck just happened here?
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 09:30 PM
What did I do?
12702719, Didn't you just call me a broke escort in that other post?
Posted by SimplyHannah, Tue Jan-20-15 12:35 AM
And you think im not about to come for you at any and every opportunity? Pfft
12702849, No I did not.
Posted by deejboram, Tue Jan-20-15 10:12 AM
I said we are ALL broke in the grand scheme of things.
I said none of us can go on shopping sprees in Dolce or Laurent.

But I did call you an escort
If you meet a guy on an online "dating" site and he pays you to go "furniture shopping" with him but you're not an interior designer and just freshly moved out of the dorms, I'm not sure what you'd call that.

But by the text book that is the definition of an escort.
I don't know what else to call it.
Pay a random stranger just to go shopping with you?
Never heard of that before.

No trolloh
12702669, :sips tea:
Posted by SimplyHannah, Mon Jan-19-15 09:55 PM
12702877, that shit that makes your soul burn slow
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jan-20-15 10:25 AM

I keep forgetting this dude married to a white woman.

tricknowledgry
12702618, you not clicking them links cause they THA TRUTH
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 08:42 PM
>and like a lil kid he put up links that I didn't bother to
>click.

little kid?
i'm supporting my claim with EXAMPLES
of some SUPER DUPER pro-black ppl in 2015
they been that way for 20+ years
they dont have SAG cards neither

12702632, and everything you trying to use as an example
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Jan-19-15 09:02 PM
shows just how little you know about me. All I can do is just laugh.
12702651, You know zero about me
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 09:29 PM
I don't have none of my life on social media

So I laugh at y'all

Instead of married to a white woman with a grey kid

I could be gettin dicked down by a nigga name hakeem right now who is my life partner

Shit, I could be beholdme!
12702659, I know you act like an ass clown on here
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Jan-19-15 09:39 PM
and I don't care to know that much
12702788, lmfao
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Tue Jan-20-15 09:20 AM
12702794, No
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Tue Jan-20-15 09:27 AM
>so... If you're "black and conscious"
>and keen to issues that effect the black community then


This highly depends on what you mean by "conscious".
One can be keen to issues and still be on some anti-Blackness.


>theres a 99% chance that you don't wear and have never worn
>straight hair weaves, permed your hair, straightened your
>hair, jerry curled , s curled or employed any method of
>styling that alters your hair from it's original form or
>texture...?


I'm having trouble understanding why you say "never worn". I don't think I (or anyone I know)
has ever implied that you couldn't be "conscious" if you've EVER worn a straight/altered hair, lol.
That's just silly.

Before I even address anything else, that has to be understood.




12703388, I don't think this is really an okp thing
Posted by Grand_Royal, Tue Jan-20-15 04:00 PM
It's a fairly common stereotype.
12702397, I don't enjoy much of Lupe's music, but technically IMO he's the best rapper.
Posted by isaaaa, Mon Jan-19-15 02:45 PM

Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg


Get 25% off www.karmaloop.com w/ rep code JR9103 |
Nike, G-Star, Herschel, Adidas (Men's & Women's clothing)
12702402, not washing jeans
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Jan-19-15 02:50 PM
12702403, +11111111111111111111111111
Posted by rdhull, Mon Jan-19-15 02:54 PM
12702434, ^^^^^
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Mon Jan-19-15 03:34 PM
12702411, Everything is a classic. It can't just be good.
Posted by LeroyBumpkin, Mon Jan-19-15 03:01 PM
It's to the point I don't think people know what a "classic" is.
12702412, Jill Scott being sexy (I disagree)
Posted by Chanson, Mon Jan-19-15 03:01 PM
She has a pretty face but I don't find her sexy.

She looks like someone's aunite.
12702464, I'm the Prez & CEO of that committee
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 04:16 PM
>She looks like someone's aunite.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12588115&mesg_id=12588115&listing_type=search#12588176
12702469, ^^^
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Jan-19-15 04:22 PM
12702506, Remember back in Philly in 2001...
Posted by normal35762, Mon Jan-19-15 05:25 PM
at that church my cousin took us too they had some Jill Scott clones in there?
12702580, Blood only thing I remember bout that weekend is...
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 07:31 PM
your relly
and him taking his to Delaware or some shit in that van

and some chick on the bus on Sunday morning with a CRAZY bubble
wasnt super bodacious but it was hella bubbly
i was like damn, we headed to church and she just coming in from the club

whats up with that nigga anyway?
12702460, DTS...no spin-offs
Posted by deejboram, Mon Jan-19-15 04:11 PM
i thought we had rules around here?
regulations.
by-laws.
12702479, are you a troll or just slow?
Posted by atruhead, Mon Jan-19-15 04:38 PM
amber rose isn't the topic of this post
12702465, I don't know where to start so I don't
Posted by Lach, Mon Jan-19-15 04:16 PM
I've been here since day 1 and I still rarely come to certain forums like GD because the people in them don't really exist in every day life.
12702482, okp doesn't really believe itself most of the time.
Posted by illegal, Mon Jan-19-15 04:43 PM
we're pretty republican in that way.
12702514, Most things concerning Religion/Christianity
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Mon Jan-19-15 05:43 PM
12702547, Chipotle and Panera Bread
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Mon Jan-19-15 06:41 PM
...
12702581, What's do we call that category of high end fast food?
Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Jan-19-15 07:33 PM
A chain that gives you the illusion of local/artisanal/authentic meals like you aren't eating at a slightly cleaner taco bell?


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12702596, hell, it beats bologna sandwiches lol
Posted by rdhull, Mon Jan-19-15 08:04 PM
>A chain that gives you the illusion of
>local/artisanal/authentic meals like you aren't eating at a
>slightly cleaner taco bell?
>
>
>"All the world's a stage,
>And all the men and women merely players:
>They have their exits and their entrances;
>And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12702613, LOL
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Mon Jan-19-15 08:34 PM
>>A chain that gives you the illusion of
>>local/artisanal/authentic meals like you aren't eating at a
>>slightly cleaner taco bell?
>>
>>
>>"All the world's a stage,
>>And all the men and women merely players:
>>They have their exits and their entrances;
>>And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
>

12702656, Chipotle yes....fuck Panera.
Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Jan-19-15 09:36 PM

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12702678, their soups are bomb
Posted by rdhull, Mon Jan-19-15 10:21 PM
>
>"All the world's a stage,
>And all the men and women merely players:
>They have their exits and their entrances;
>And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12702679, I like making soup too much to trust it to someone else.
Posted by Lardlad95, Mon Jan-19-15 10:23 PM
What would you say is their best soup?

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
12702684, broccoli n cheese
Posted by rdhull, Mon Jan-19-15 10:35 PM
12703375, "fast casual"
Posted by Jay Doz, Tue Jan-20-15 03:52 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_casual_restaurant
12702634, Most of the hip hop the lesson goes crazy about.
Posted by Kid Ray, Mon Jan-19-15 09:03 PM
12702636, Boyhood being a great film.
Posted by Kid Ray, Mon Jan-19-15 09:06 PM
12702666, Roc Marciano being entertaining.
Posted by Innocent Criminal, Mon Jan-19-15 09:50 PM
I use his music to put my 15mo old to sleep.
12702725, He was more interesting when he was with Flipmode....
Posted by The Wordsmith, Tue Jan-20-15 12:52 AM
...and The UN. At least then he rhymed with energy. Once he developed that sleepy flow, I couldn't get into his stuff.




Since 1976
12703370, You have a point
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Tue Jan-20-15 03:50 PM
>...and The UN. At least then he rhymed with energy. Once he
>developed that sleepy flow, I couldn't get into his stuff.
>
>
>
>
>Since 1976
12702786, him and Ka: AMAZING producers
Posted by BabySoulRebel, Tue Jan-20-15 09:18 AM
but snores as emcees.
12702798, the idea that "OKP" has opinions.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Jan-20-15 09:29 AM
as opposed to the idea that ppl who post here feel certain ways about given issues where others disagree w/them.

i'm not sure what 'OKP' means in discussions like this.
12702935, Maybe it means the majority that seems to share similar sentiments
Posted by Garhart Poppwell, Tue Jan-20-15 11:01 AM
at least that's what it read like to me.
12702942, i've seen it used where like 5 ppl have expressed an opinion
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Jan-20-15 11:06 AM
and 12 ppl expressed disagreement but "OKP" agrees w/the 5.

says who?

12702943, RE: Maybe it means the majority that seems to share similar sentiments
Posted by Government Name, Tue Jan-20-15 11:06 AM
that happens less often than people on here think or want to admit tho.

there are posts where 3-4 people are going against the grain and fighting against the popular opinion, but more often than not, its a few squeaky wheels who have an opinion and it randomly gets tagged as "OKP"

usually its anything that clowning will get laughs and cosigns
12702950, agreed.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Jan-20-15 11:11 AM
12703166, I see that more than anything else
Posted by Garhart Poppwell, Tue Jan-20-15 01:33 PM
not including dogpiling, and especially within the past few years or so. Now The Lesson about ten years ago? Talking about OKP-centric artists? Definitely.
12702937, Talent, haha.
Posted by initiationofplato, Tue Jan-20-15 11:03 AM
12702941, Way too much plea-copping and false acceptance here
Posted by 8-bit, Tue Jan-20-15 11:05 AM
A lot of folks here just can't state their opinion and stand by it. Too afraid to ruffle feathers or be perceived negatively, I guess.

I just can't rock with that personally. Rubs me the wrong way.
12702952, Alotta people here are friends, so I guess I get it...
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Tue Jan-20-15 11:12 AM
since many people don't like to argue or debate their friends.

I just don't have that inhibition. If I disagree, I disagree with anybody the same way.
12703169, there's no better group of people to argue/debate with than friends...
Posted by BigJazz, Tue Jan-20-15 01:35 PM



***
I'm tryna be better off, not better than...
12703180, that's all the more of a reason to keep it 100
Posted by ambient1, Tue Jan-20-15 01:44 PM
12703399, okp is the only place that I hear any Black Messiah backlash lol
Posted by Grand_Royal, Tue Jan-20-15 04:04 PM