2 dudes who killed all those people in France (dead wrong for that, PSA) holed up in a tenement like the protagonist from a children's story, saying they wanna die as martyrs

I say fk that and bring them out alive to face justice

But they will undoubtedly get their wish

Did y'all know know they were orphans?

radicalized in prison and the foster system over there

You don't think uncle Sam isn't worried abt something similar here? BGF allegedly put a green light on police which is gonna get their ass put under a mountain in Colorado literally but if that genie comes out the bottle? Katie bar the door

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dudes in the fully body armour and AK-47

(jusjokes I know that shit happened it just fit there so there it its)

thought you were serious for a second

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And most of Europe compared to the us?

They get free education, free healthcare and there's no prison industrial complex like in the us.

They put black ppl on the runways, on the cover of fashion magazines and in advertising bc it doesn't hurt sales like when they do it in the us.

The restrictions on wearing head scarves in public schools and being veiled seem unfortunate, but not like prison industrial complex unfortunate.

And I can't imagine a city like Paris is anymore segregated than NYC.

what does compulsory free social services have to do with being marginalised?
did you expect black and brown french citizens to be legally exempt from it?

magazine covers don't mean shit.
I lived in france and I loved it but the professional black/brown middle class is damn near non-existent. Furthermore colored folls there have such lowered expectations of what they should aspire to attain that it makes the US look like a utopia. Oh and nobody likes to discuss race despite the disparity staring you in the face. My North African friends having to lie about their arabic names just to inquire about an apartment's availability.

Everywhere has its pros and cons and there are things in France that are much better than the US but don't go basing your opinion on the superficial.

in America and even in NYC most apartments are not available to black people. that name thing happens with resumes and apartments here. you've basically confirmed what i thought. it's about the same but we have the prison industrial complex where we profit off criminalizing black and brown people. black and brown people don't have opportunities to go to university for free and even if you stay out of trouble and go to school, your family can go bankrupt cause you had a heart attack at 50.

I can't even really attest to the black experience here, but you don't know what you're talking about.

outlook on life to do what those folks did. There are ghettos all over the world.

You are also lumping blk and Muslim together when they aren't always one in the same.

Americans learned from the racist ass colonial powers that came before them. Countries like France refuse to even offer a count of their minority populations, let alone admit that racism exists within their borders. At least in the U.S., we can have an intelligent dialogue about race, and upwardly mobile black folks can get in where they fit in. In France, their dismissiveness about the challenges that black and brown people face allows rampant discrimination and social inequality to go unchecked. Their black and brown unemployment rate is out of control, even by U.S. standards.

It's just a reminder that in any place that there are white people, black people are screwed.

1) redlining and discrimination when it comes to lending and insurance 2) underfunding schools and other services...

race is a social construct anyway.

i'm not really mad at them not counting.

black people have it bad everywhere in the 'west' but as far as i'm concerned there's nothing touching this new jim crow system we have here : the prison industrial complex.

how right are they?

i was just about to say that she sounds like an African (or other immigrant) talking about Black Americans not having it so bad compared to where they are coming from. Like "they had affirmative action, they have welfare and section 8. looks like a sweet deal to me".

delineation between how fresh off the boat africans and north africans are treated vs. black french who *appear* to be fully assimilated
of course that could just be a AA in a suit vs one in a white tee thing
not sure, but it seemed like fresh immigrants get treated worse there for still being *other*

that's the first place i caught MYSELF being racist
north africans in france just look shady as shit
they are deep in southern france (Marseille etc)
i caught myself going down another block at night and stuff like when i would rolled up and see groups of them all huddled up and whispering and shit
no thanks

for foreignors who move there to assimilate and become French. in the us, if you're a foreignor or black you're just other.

Canada is more or less in the same boat.

religious freedoms...

real talk, if we can't learn to respect the differences of others then why haven't the powers that be white washed everything already?

there should just be genocides and re-education in the vein of dystopian futures we always read about.

it'd be so much simpler than arguing with you fuckers about the evils of men

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i mean if you believe in all that stuff...wouldn't people killing each other be part of it?

dumb then

even dumber now



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some wonder if it was on purpose so they could get credit.

No way this was by accident. Who the hell takes an ID with them when carrying out an attack?

IMO this smells fishy...

are probably just disenfranchised folks.

This commentator on the news suggested that they needed to have their ID in order to blend in when escaping. He referred to another terrorist incident where the perpetrator got caught because he had changed clothes, blended into a crowd to get on a bus, but was asked for ID by a cop, didn't have it, and was arrested.

i'm lost

These ISIS type cats want to die as martyrs so why would you have a loose ID in your car?

seems fishy to me unless they wanted recognition.

and how they act completely against the teachings of islam

Who's body we've never seen

how do they go against the teachings of islam? lol

they're a fundamentalist, radical group that takes the word of the koran and hadith to be the unalterable truth of the universe. hence why they want to set up one state for the full world (Islamic State) and have it ruled by sharia

claims that innocent amish girls deserved to die because the united states is embracing the "homosexual" agenda


they have completely distorted a religon to meet a specific need


none of what you said applies here


there are so many things that these guys do in the name of islam that are directly counter to islam its pretty much a joke at this point

could you list what ISIS do that is in strict disagreement with the teachings of islam?

and as for the westboros - they follow the bible to every letter, hence why they hate fags so much and all the other stuff that god hates

westboro is going by their distorted interpretation of the old testament

the same way all extremest groups have their interpretation of whatever dogma they espouse that motivates them(or achieves a purpose under the guise of their dogma)



im not going to try to convince you otherwise. if you disagree thats totally ok.

i think we will both continue on in our lives just fine

you can literally google "how many ways is isis violating islam" if you really care but doubtful



first result should suffice, isis condemned by islamic scholars

http://www.businessinsider.com/muslims-using-sharia-law-against-isis-2014-10

fair enough

thing is, all religious texts are replete with contradictions. for every "love thy neighbour," there's a "slaughter those who are not like you." it's just in the koran and hadith they go a little too far in the violent direction and neglect the better stuff. this is why you'll always have people who kill in the name of islam and people who try to promote peace in the name of it.

but whatever, i'm not gonna argue whether a crazy, murderous organisation is following islam enough. all religions are bullshit that cause more problems than they solve. this tragedy is just another example of that.

and for the record, if the god of the old testament was manifested as a human, i reckon he'd be a very similar person to the leader of the westboro church

have laid it out in plain text for us

lol, i could find you "actual" islamic scholars who could lay it out in plain text that they are doing it right. the koran and hadith make it pretty clear that you can kill infidels just because, and that sharia must be instated by all means necessary.

though again, i don't really care. if you're a nihilistic psychopath i hate you regardless of what religion you prescribe to

if the god of the old testament was manifested as a human...

According to the New Testament this already happened and the results were not as you predicted

damn we get blamed for every damn thing
they can't say terrorist enough though.
It's like that 9/11 speech Lois gave on Family Guy.

start from the beginning

two brothers. orphaned. mistreated by the french system. the hatred & bitterness seeps in...til they find a family to belong to in "radical" islam...they take to it like a duck to water...find their calling...and terrify a nation

Wentworth Miller & Vin Diesal star in....JIHAD

cmon man

this shit would write itself

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