http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/08/pf/college/obama-free-college/index.html

shit.

but this is good for the future...wish he'd been abt THIS instead of trying to ensure he got reelected the whole time


does it really matter?

for all my fans who keep my name in their mouth: http://i.imgur.com/v2xNOpS.jpg

is it like a requirement for you to be crotchety as fuck the second obama's name comes up?

and the largest homeless and unemployed university educated population in the world.

not related, just saying.

for college.

It's the current system that's partly responsible for skyrocketing costs.

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Universities should also be free...
Or at the very least -- Affordable.

phlebotomy
CNA
pharmacy tech
welding
electrician
plumbing
barber
cosmetology

all them courses offered at Kelsey-Jenney

we need industry and producing shit.

>

Maybe one could benefit if they load up on them advanced pre-reqs (Cal/AP/Bio/Chem/etc).

That plus the new college rating system they are working on

....i don't see conservatives standing behind this one...

Obama suggested, "he must be stopped!"

Besides, the only way to make community college free is through "MORE SPENDING!" (which could very well also mean "MORE TAXES")

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as it stands now them ppl get paid like $500 a class per semester
i know a few classmates that tought JuCo courses for the fuck of it
16 weeks for $500
they crazy

even at my undergrad (alabama a&m) they be paying professors like a few thousand dollars per course and then have the nerve to have folks checks be late or short or both!

can't attract quality talent with them moves

bro my home girl taught two courses and was making 1,735 a month, only on campus 3-4 days a week

my other homegirl taught two classes and one online and was making 66k

aint no professor gunna teach for $500 per semester

>bro my home girl taught two courses and was making 1,735 a
>month, only on campus 3-4 days a week
>
>my other homegirl taught two classes and one online and was
>making 66k
>
>aint no professor gunna teach for $500 per semester


and be careful using "professor" like you do
because there are instructors, associate professors, assistant professors and FULL FLEDGED professors and each level holds a certain range of pay.

http://www.npr.org/2014/02/03/268427156/part-time-professors-demand-higher-pay-will-colleges-listen


On a recent day, Wilder and a few colleagues set up a table in the student union to share their stories. One of those with him was Maria Maisto, also an adjunct at Cuyahoga and president of New Faculty Majority, a national support group that's been lobbying for more pay, health insurance, job security and better working conditions.

"We have to stop hiding in the shadows," Maisto said. "We have to not be ashamed to tell our stories."

She says adjuncts here get about $8 an hour. A tall gangly man approached her, pecked at the calculator on his smartphone, and said Maisto's figures were wrong. That was Rudy Stralka, a well-regarded, full-time, tenured business professor at Cuyahoga. He says adjuncts make $22 to $23 an hour, and if you do the math, adjuncts are paid fairly — $160 per class in Maisto's case.

Maisto said she teaches one class that meets for three hours a week; Stralka said that's $26 an hour.

most people who teach at CCs are adjuncts, many instructors, maybe assistant Profs

you seriously are one of the most insufferable people on these boards

$26 per hour DOES NOT equal $500 per semester, your words

>most people who teach at CCs are adjuncts, many instructors,
>maybe assistant Profs
>
>you seriously are one of the most insufferable people on these
>boards
>
>$26 per hour DOES NOT equal $500 per semester, your words


because i believe i was talking about JuCo all through that post
did you catch that?
my bad if i wasn't clear
i even referenced an HBCU (alabama a&m)
my bad for not being more clear

it's nice to know exact amounts of what your friend's make too

a semester is different then per class or hour

and yeah, she had a sweet gig, was tenure, but she went back to get her PhD

but make no mistakes MANY CC instructors are getting ass raped

it's fucn terrible

>a semester is different then per class or hour
>
>and yeah, she had a sweet gig, was tenure, but she went back
>to get her PhD
>
>but make no mistakes MANY CC instructors are getting ass
>raped
>
>it's fucn terrible
>



it was a bullshit math class or something
like not even algebra level
most entry level instructors at HBCU are immigrants (african/indian) that take the gig just to get a rep

i graduated in 2001 and their checks were often late and short THEN so they were threatening walkouts
even to this day, same shit, instructors having problems with getting paid
im mainly talking about the math/engineering/comp sci courses as that's what course i take and am interested in

when i was in grad school i made a HAIR less than a starting associate prof/lecturer so i wondered why it was a big deal for me to make what i made
(it wasn't really a lot but just the IDEA that a regular employee could make as much as a instructor had the dept in an uproar)
this was at an ivy league school btw

I clearly said my classmates made $500 for teaching a 16 week course at a JuCo

JuCo = Junior College
Junior Colleges where they pay $12 a unit or $36 for a English 101 class
maybe have 25 students in the class
so the state collects $900 in tuition for that class
of course the school is subsidized by tax payer funds but damn

you seem to be comparing this JuCo tuition to a proper 4year school where you can pay $4,000 for one graduate course (as i did in school, but i think it is up to $6,000 per class now)


why you wanna be mean to me astral?
i aint be got no weapon

you talking bout how much the instuctor/prof geting paid

or how much students pay

two dfferent things

and nah, we both talking bout jc/cc

if one is able to get tenure at a state or big University, then they gunna make some nice change 65-90k

im concerned about the feasibility of it since we already have problems paying the instructors at JuCos now

i guess we could raise federal taxes or cut some other prorgrams to get this jumped off

DoD cut use a haircut but you know that won't happen as it supports MANY jobs
blue and white collar


>you talking bout how much the instuctor/prof geting paid
>
>or how much students pay
>
>two dfferent things
>
>and nah, we both talking bout jc/cc
>
>if one is able to get tenure at a state or big University,
>then they gunna make some nice change 65-90k

Like, say you're pro jobs but you're anti-skills and see how far that gets you.


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>Like, say you're pro jobs but you're anti-skills and see how
>far that gets you.
>
>
>my avy: Deep in your heart, you know he's right:
>http://coreyrichardsonneedsajob.com/
>my hustle: http://SupaSoulSounds.com
>
>*RIP: John T. "220v" Richardson, Blessing Benson, and Dilla*

state and private universities should be substantially cheaper also, or at least have some accountability in terms of what they charge and what they return.

>state and private universities should be substantially
>cheaper also, or at least have some accountability in terms of
>what they charge and what they return.


how you going to make something be free when you can't sustain it when ppl have to pay for it outta pocket now?

and if public unis should be cheaper, how much should/will they pay their professors?

and how you going to regulate the amount a PRIVATE school charges for tuition?
that's hella socialist.

how many courses are being taught by lecturers and adjuncts (some of whom have PhDs and/or considerable professional experience) for $15K a year? i don't see the tuition hikes trickling down to those people.

in England and Austria you typically finish "high school" at 16
then you have the option of doing more school for another two years
this would be equivalent to JuCo here in the states

but in these two years you learn a trade or specific skillset of some sort

i think kids should spend less time learning about shakespeare and more time about how to keep these spheres from shaking

>in England and Austria you typically finish "high school" at
>16
>then you have the option of doing more school for another two
>years
>this would be equivalent to JuCo here in the states
>
>but in these two years you learn a trade or specific skillset
>of some sort
>
>i think kids should spend less time learning about shakespeare
>and more time about how to keep these spheres from shaking

One of the counties are looking into making the last 2 years of High School college credits equivalent so students graduate with 30 credits banked already.

Thats the kind of educational reform that makes a real difference.

There was a highschool not too far from the one I went to that had a technical program. You started in 11th grade and could do electrical, automotive, cosmetology, hvac, IT, culinary arts,etc

If it passes, he's pretty much a hero and it's a great win for his legacy.

i cant tell if thats a good idea or a bad idea