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12693177, Do We Really Need Assholes?
Posted by bonitaapplebaum71481, Thu Jan-08-15 08:02 AM
I've been thinking... I could reference a couple things and maybe get this post blown away but I really would like to have a dialogue on this. So you know how we're supposed to be living together, striving to peacefully coexist, raise the next generation, and keep society spinning? How does one being an asshole achieve any of that? Sure, it might earn coarse laughs, grab the eye of the chick with the low self esteem, or even earn you a hi five from some other douche, but is it productive?

Most assholes are people who lack sincerity and key social skills and while that may be fun to watch in any action flick, the asshole is almost definitely the dude that dies so awesomely in any horror film. Like every single one.

I just don't see the point in it and while it may be a trait within all of us I don't really understand how it serves me. And I'll probably try to squash it every time in hopes if maybe we all squashed the asshole inside of us, the world would be a better place...


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12693183, RE: Do We Really Need Assholes?
Posted by c71, Thu Jan-08-15 08:10 AM

>I don't really understand how it serves me.


Very few people get what "serves" them.


In fact, Rush Limbaugh is glad to let people like me know that he's going to ruffle my feathers. He's a multi-millionaire (despite that recent Rx pills situation) for telling people like me he's going to offend my kind.


Rush is not serving me.
12693190, do we really need the night time?
Posted by Deadzombie, Thu Jan-08-15 08:31 AM
12693197, one persons "asshole" is another persons "cool"
Posted by Binlahab, Thu Jan-08-15 08:50 AM
we all are out here trying to make it & live

ive been characterized as a asshole irl & i firmly dont think i am but whats got more weight what others perceive me as or what i think i am?

i dont have much of a filter & treat everyone like a stranger i just met at a party. we can be cool or we can beef. doesnt really matter to me

i am the way i am for valid reasons that nobody else would get because they havent lived this for 37 yrs like i have


does it really matter?

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12693201, I thought this post was literally about assholes
Posted by gumz, Thu Jan-08-15 08:58 AM
12693261, I was really pleased to find that it wasn't.
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Jan-08-15 10:10 AM
12693327, Yeah, came in thinking "won't there just be shit everywhere?"
Posted by 8-bit, Thu Jan-08-15 10:54 AM
12693202, Asshole is subjective...
Posted by ndibs, Thu Jan-08-15 08:59 AM
There are circumstances where ppl would benefit being told about themselves.

12693223, some people think theyre being honest and think
Posted by teefiveten, Thu Jan-08-15 09:38 AM
that is paramount-regardless of folks' feelings

i don't really like having assholes around me but i do
and i take them in doses
and if i encounter one professionally i can get down and dirty too
but it's not preferable

but as much as some of us fancy ourselves to be 'nice', someone thinks we are an asshole.

12693226, truth.com
Posted by gumz, Thu Jan-08-15 09:40 AM

>but as much as some of us fancy ourselves to be 'nice',
>someone thinks we are an asshole.
>
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12693231, i'm pretty sure professionally, someone has thought
Posted by teefiveten, Thu Jan-08-15 09:42 AM
that i was a c-word

which makes me feel not good but depending on the person, i kinda do take a secret pride in it
not because i like being that way
but because i let them know i wasn't going to tolerate certain things

i definitely try to be nice and helpful and look out for others
but im sure you can gather a small army of folks who think the opposite of me
i just have to keep living and trying to right wrongs if i can and be a better person
12693326, yup...can't please everybody
Posted by gumz, Thu Jan-08-15 10:53 AM
and some people will just bring it out of you
12693234, we dont need "assholes" per se, but sometimes the traits that make
Posted by Government Name, Thu Jan-08-15 09:44 AM
people assholes also have benefits to society, they just havent learned how to conduct themselves properly.
12693235, The world needs assholes. We keep the other assholes from
Posted by veritas, Thu Jan-08-15 09:46 AM
the door. (c) Rust Cohle, kinda.

I don't want to live in a world without assholes and I vehemently disagree that assholes are generally insincere.

Your standard issue asshole has too much sincerity, if anything.
12693237, Some people thought Jesus, Ghandi, MLK and Malcolm X were assholes.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jan-08-15 09:51 AM
Even people who were pro-Civil Rights thought King was an asshole for demanding too much too soon.

The problem with your way of thinking is who gets to decide who are the Assholes versus the people bringing positive disruptive change.


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12693241, at least 2/4 of those were definitely assholes
Posted by veritas, Thu Jan-08-15 09:56 AM
12693283, I'd say 3/4 definitely.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Jan-08-15 10:20 AM
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12693246, There wouldn't be an America without assholes
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Jan-08-15 10:01 AM
How else would all those Africans have gotten here?

12693260, Only in one instance....
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Thu Jan-08-15 10:10 AM
as long as this happens...

>Sure, it might earn coarse laughs


ESPECIALLY as long as this happens...

>grab the eye of the chick with the low self esteem

this too....

>even earn you a hi five from some other douche,


People will take the role. HOWEVER...



>but is it productive?


It's not productive in most cases. However, if you're negotiating in business matters,
sometimes you need someone with "asshole" tendencies. We could describe it as
"no nonsense". But you need someone who cuts through the bullshit and asks
"what's in it for me/my client", as an "asshole" is usually someone who cares about
themselves and no one else... imo, anyway.
People who say mean-spirited shit to/about people for no reason are just degenerates.






12693269, yes, yes we do
Posted by BabySoulRebel, Thu Jan-08-15 10:14 AM
because they remind us of how very essential boundaries/self-preservation are.
12693294, Do we really need the milquetoast?
Posted by veritas, Thu Jan-08-15 10:27 AM
Feckless cowards who value politeness above all else?

12693343, Politeness in its genuine ideal is just reaching a level of mutual respect
Posted by bonitaapplebaum71481, Thu Jan-08-15 11:08 AM
not walking on eggshells blithering about but accepting there's a common thread between two individuals and going about it as such...

folks'll cry out that they're civilized but then claim they need all this bravado

being a jerk and assertiveness aren't mutually exclusive in any setting



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12693351, i agree, but it's a spectrum.
Posted by veritas, Thu Jan-08-15 11:10 AM
i'd rather someone be rude and sincere than timid and insincere.

you can definitely be polite and sincere, but if you're going to skimp on one or the other (and people regularly do) i'd rather you skimp on politeness.
12693305, gotta make it thru the rainy days to appreciate the sunny ones...
Posted by mikediggz, Thu Jan-08-15 10:36 AM
or somethin like that
12693358, who else can i be an asshole to though?
Posted by lfresh, Thu Jan-08-15 11:17 AM
i'm not going to be an asshole to a nice person!
shoot assholes are there so i can abuse them
throw a good elbow, a thorough foot in the tuckus, extend that arm and flatten that nose
its good exercise!
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12693462, It's an ecosystem.
Posted by SP1200, Thu Jan-08-15 12:22 PM
12693465, There are people who care with no tact and there are assholes
Posted by ShinobiShaw, Thu Jan-08-15 12:23 PM
If you got a person who cares but has no tact chances are for example they might say to you

"Hey you fat fuck, hurry up we are going to be late or you scaring away the hoes"

Now you might be thinking this person is being an asshole but if you look behind the lines. If this is a true friend they are concerned abotu your health and want you to meet a nice girl.

An asshole is gonna say the same thing but they are only thinking about themselves in that instance. It should be easy to tell the differnce between the two.
12693486, like, in the modern media sense? Nah, probably not
Posted by kayru99, Thu Jan-08-15 12:46 PM
Most of'em have absolutely no depth, and are great at making money for themselves at the expense of the blood pressure of their audience and the humanity of their targets.

It's no accident that damn near all well known media "assholes" are wealthy white men in the US, Europe, or Australia. Their "truth-telling" usually is about as deep as a high schooler's idea of anything