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As a result of all the other headlines we see daily.
But that is horrible to have an added reason to fear for your life. I don't know what it would take to raise the global IQ all at once, but it needs to happen soon.

Our current movement will not be successful until we stop the discrimination against women and the LBGT community. I was at a protest here in Philly, and the divisions amongst Black people are seriously hurting us.

I swear folks care more about stupid shit than they do about empowerment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/27/islan-nettles_n_5721874.html

It's been a year since Dolores Nettles rushed to the hospital and listened to her daughter's heart beat for the last time. Since then, she has been waiting for the results of an investigation into her daughter's death. Police say they're on the case, but Nettles is skeptical. "What's taking so long?" she asked. "I'm not really understanding what's really going on."

Nettles is the mother of Islan, the transgender woman who died on Aug. 17, 2013, after a group of men allegedly fought with her outside a police precinct in Harlem, a New York City neighborhood. The police initially brought assault charges against Paris Wilson, who allegedly delivered the blows that would eventually kill her. But authorities later dropped the charges, saying they intended to pursue the case as a homicide investigation.
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>It's been a year since Dolores Nettles rushed to the hospital
>and listened to her daughter's heart beat for the last time.
>Since then, she has been waiting for the results of an
>investigation into her daughter's death. Police say they're on
>the case, but Nettles is skeptical. "What's taking so long?"
>she asked. "I'm not really understanding what's really going
>on."
>
>Nettles is the mother of Islan, the transgender woman who died
>on Aug. 17, 2013, after a group of men allegedly fought with
>her outside a police precinct in Harlem, a New York City
>neighborhood. The police initially brought assault charges
>against Paris Wilson, who allegedly delivered the blows that
>would eventually kill her. But authorities later dropped the
>charges, saying they intended to pursue the case as a homicide
>investigation.
>*cont*

....I feel that transgender folks need to be up front about who they are when dealing with heterosexual folks. Not everyone is cool with being fooled into dating someone who was born the same gender as they. I'm sure some folks are gonna get all hurt and throw attacks my way but I'm being real. You can't be deceiving folks and be surprised when they don't take well to the now exposed deception.



Since 1976

I think it was just hate crime.

If dude was looking for transgendered folks to beat on, then you would have a point. Dude found out through a friend that he was dating a transgendered person and lost it. I don't condone beating someone to death over it but I'm not surprised that it happened. I've heard too many stories like this where dude in the relationship finds out he's dating someone who's transgendered and flips out. That's why I suggest transgendered folks be open from the jump in order to avoid this type of thing.


Since 1976

I don't see what you're talking about. It says they walked up and were flirting, realized they were trans and attacked.

Where do you see somethin about somebody dating and finding out later?

>....I feel that transgender folks need to be up front about
>who they are when dealing with heterosexual folks. Not
>everyone is cool with being fooled into dating someone who was
>born the same gender as they. I'm sure some folks are gonna
>get all hurt and throw attacks my way but I'm being real. You
>can't be deceiving folks and be surprised when they don't take
>well to the now exposed deception.
>
>
>
>Since 1976

..maybe tattoos on their wrist?

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

>
>"All the world's a stage,
>And all the men and women merely players:
>They have their exits and their entrances;
>And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

big difference

NOBODY deserves this to happen to themselves and you imply that it is almost okay because she didn't identify herself during the holleration.

Nah man, abuse ain't cool on ANY level. Why couldn't they say "ahhh yoiur a dude and WALK AWAY..." Walking away without doing physical harm is always a good idea.

And obviously it should go without saying that virtually nothing in this world justifies that kind of disgusting savagery (but we're on same page on that as well)

Im not sure how I got that they were dating. I'm over here sick in bed and it was the middle of the night, so my mind wasn't the clearest. I admit my mistake with this one.



Since 1976

this shit said she was cat-called

not that he was invited over for "tacos"

yall wild

My apology is literally above your comment and yet you still had something to say.



Since 1976

aint shit to misread...

u just decided on creating a scene that wasn't remotely close to what happened...

bc u instead of reading...you'd prefer to be sick and crazy

either u made up the "deception" or simply wanted to assume it was there...either way...that's fucked up

I admitted my mistake and even said I'm not sure how I thought they were dating yet you still wanna complain. Calm down, man. Life is still going on. If you don't want to believe that I'm sick and was kind of out of it when I initially commented, then that's on you. *Shrugs*




Since 1976

i was having a hard time finding fuel...with the price of it coming down so much...it's rare i get it for free these days

i'm practically red with anger now thanks to your hard work

u are appreciated

and your sick delirium is a blessing upon men that has fueled at least 3 azalea banks styled outbursts today...

again, you are appreciated

smh

Life will get better.


Since 1976

with "While don't condone murder..."

bc anything prefaced with that statement is always almost always full of good ol fashioned diesel angry fuel...

u can do it

or make another half-assed apology and miss the point again...that's actually more effective than i thought

...and admitting that you made a mistake, the same way I made a mistake, you'd rather go this hurt route. You sure got me. How will I ever sleep knowing that you're mad at me?


Since 1976

u are the one with the half-assed apology

i haven't said anything insensitive

dog, if you have to preface an argument about anything besides vigilantism with "While I don't condone murder..."

u are on the wrong side of the argument...

i understand your sick mind was delirious but it doesn't explain not only the complete ill characterization of what actually happened but you've only apologized for the mistake of that...rather than admitting that it's extremely insensitive and fucked up to suggest murder is anything other than a gross overreaction in any context

Just admit you didn't see my apology at first. I can admit my mistake but you're crazy if you think I need to grovel and throw ashes on my head over it. Move on, my nigga. Lol, you really are hurt.


Since 1976

no shit i didn't see your apology first...

common sense would say that...probably bc i clicked reply before reading the rest of the post...

no shit sherlock...

u aint gotta grovel to me...

if u wanna be an asshole...i'd prefer you wear an asshole badge so i know how to entertain your assholery next time...

u don't like the truth...not my problem

but continue to reply about me being mad and hurt even though it's pretty clear im just disgusted with your idiocy

kanyeshrug

By a str8 man amongst a group of dudes. When one of his friends saw that she was transgendered they brutally murdered her

Was it her fault that they cat called her and then attacked? Fuck outta here she didn't ask for that

Dude just informed you that I apologized for my mistake and you're snapping at him as if he came at your neck. Calm down. The whole world ain't against you.



Since 1976

Don't think u kno anything about anyone based off a reply on a message board

U made an idiotic comment and I won't assume u are an idiot...but looks like u r trying to prove that u r one

Which is cool too

If my apology and explanation isn't sufficient, then I don't know what to tell you. Stay angry for all I care. I won't lose sleep.



Since 1976

More understandable (glad to hear u don't condone murder....) if she had tricked them?

That seems to be what ur insinuating even after ur explanation and what ur boy Jon was consigning.

That's disgusting bullshit. Even if she did trick them (which after u used ur basic reading skills u see wasn't even the case) she didn't deserve to die for it

Many Black ppl passed for White, should they have been beat to death if discovered?

Would ur first thought or reply be if this had happened to A Blk person passing for Wht to say, I don't condone murder but they should be upfront ?

Any time someone's first reply to someone being murdered and the culprits getting off Scott free is some half baked qualifying or blaming the victim shit, Ima find that reply repulsive and idiotic

And that "u just want to be angry" shit is the most immature and patronizing bs ever, who wants to be angry? I sure don't, what I want is for ppl to be better human beings and show some compassion

...(when I mistakenly thought they were dating) transgendered folks can avoid cats flipping out if they were up front about their situation from the jump. I was essentially saying that they can weed out dealing with cats who would flip out and be ready to beat and/or kill them out of being deceived. Not once did I imply that transgendered folks deserve getting beat and killed yet everyone coming at my neck seems to think that way.

Once again, I'm sick (although I'm much better now compared to when I first posted) and it was the middle of the night. I was killing time while waiting to go back to sleep. I for some odd reason thought I saw something about them dating, thus my reason for my original comment. When I got on today, I realized my mistake and apologized for it. I don't know what else I can tell y'all. If my apology isn't accepted, then it's just not accepted. I can't do crap about that.




Since 1976

>...(when I mistakenly thought they were dating) transgendered
>folks can avoid cats flipping out if they were up front about
>their situation from the jump. I was essentially saying that
>they can weed out dealing with cats who would flip out and be
>ready to beat and/or kill them out of being deceived. Not once
>did I imply that transgendered folks deserve getting beat and
>killed yet everyone coming at my neck seems to think that way.
>

i agree that transgendered people should be more honest...but not as a way to avoid psychos...

combine this odd stance with the phrase "While I don't condone murder..."

and it seems you are implying that if they are dishonest it's understandable that psychos are gonna be psychos...

if a woman provocatively dressed gets murdered and some person chooses to focus on how she was dressed and throws in a "While i don't condone murder..." in there...how do u expect people to respond...

would those responses be justified?

sometimes you gotta self-monitor your own fucked up thoughts and stop getting mad at other people for trying to do it for u lol

And I agree, Ppl in general should be honest about who they are so the person they are dealing with can decide if they actually want to deal with them

And as a practical and safety issue (because unfortunately this isn't the first and probably not the last T-girl to be murdered like this) trans women should be completely forthcoming and MANY ARE from what I kno

But what ur saying still comes off like blaming the victim. The onus is on the other human being not to flip out but be an adult and say "I ain't with that" or "u lied and in done with u" and not get verbally or physically violent

I know this is not on the same "level" in most minds but that's akin (TO ME) to saying it was ok for Tonya to have stabbed Roy dead when she found out he was married yet been fucking her. Even Tonya cursing him out is not justified or adult compared to her just bouncing

But I do see u say the attack was not justified at all so that's the important thing but it'd be best IMO not to mix ur other arguments in with this case at all. It's an open forum tho....

said point blank that the attack absolutely was not ok

looked for a real article instead of a meme to get the facts. Took me a few seconds to google.

The meme was confusing but I do not agree with the way you handled the rest.

Maybe I shouldn't have apologized because it looks like admitting my mistakes does nothing for you wanna stay outraged niggas.




Since 1976

cause if doesn't imply...

if u use that phrase bc you are too stupid to realize that you do sorta imply that it's "understandable" (even in the fictional case you made up ) then yea...u shouldn't have apologized bc that would mean you were insincere and only apologize for applying your idiocy to an instant that was different than the one u meant to apply it to

so basically...be less apologetic about your idiocy and realize that people are hurt or mad whenever you do so rather than trying to combat idiocy

Not once did I call you out your name yet you're calling me stupid. Tsk, tsk. Look, I said I made a mistake. If that doesn't suffice, then I don't know what to tell you. I'm suspecting you have all this anger because you were picked on back in the day and never got over it. Sorry, dog but I'm not that nigga Rell that used to tease you and take your lunch money.



Since 1976

i'm describing your words and behavior

i'm not mad at all...

hell, im mildly transphobic...

but u refuse to realize your mistake is not JUST not reading, or posting while delerious, or any of that...

it's your lack of understanding what your own words mean...

in what world does "While i don't condone murder" not imply that "...but in this made up instance...it's almost understandable"

people aren't twisting your words...u aren't holding yourself responsible for what they communicate

if that's not what you meant...that's fine...but u have yet to express anything to the contrary or that you even understand that what you expressed is mad ignorant even if the scenario fit

but continue to reply...it's only making you look smarter

I'm literally not reading what you have to say because I know it's just a bunch of hurt nonsense. Look, dog, if my apology isn't sufficient for you, then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not about to grovel to get your approval, so you might as well quit wasting words and fall back.


Since 1976

and even though u have no insight as to why or even credible evidence...

ur insight is ingenious

Since 1976

I had already owned up to my mistake.



Since 1976

This is horrible. And, I feel bad for her family. You are attracted to someone then you find out she was born a man. What right does that give you to beat that person to death? Be upfront... Why should someone tell you their life story just because you are attracted to them?

The arguments for making this ish okay or remotely feasible is bs! If you find out she was born a man and you are put off by it, leave her alone!

Now everything that leaves someone any degree bothered or uncomfortable gets some kind of crazy extreme punitive reaction.

Like, all that should've happened was riding out a moment of embarrassment or feeling a bit "eww" and gingerly dismissing yourself from the situation, and that's it.

Obviously you add in the presence of his boys and the fear of a tall tale version circulating around, growing more sensational each time and never living it down. In that sense, I understand how he could feel mortified and even perhaps angry, but still. Just deal with it like a person, not an animal.

from all sides and issues. The Mozilla CEO thing illustrates it quite well

>Now everything that leaves someone any degree bothered or
>uncomfortable gets some kind of crazy extreme punitive
>reaction.
>
>Like, all that should've happened was riding out a moment of
>embarrassment or feeling a bit "eww" and gingerly dismissing
>yourself from the situation, and that's it.
>
>Obviously you add in the presence of his boys and the fear of
>a tall tale version circulating around, growing more
>sensational each time and never living it down. In that sense,
>I understand how he could feel mortified and even perhaps
>angry, but still. Just deal with it like a person, not an
>animal.


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