Story unfolding. The implications of this politically are nuts

http://gothamist.com/2014/12/20/two_police_officers_shot_in_the_hea.php

but i hope everyone involved is the same race
or its somehow personal,
this is gonna suck.

And he's been shot so let's not make this into something it may not be...yet

>And he's been shot so let's not make this into something it
>may not be...yet

No message

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how this turns out.


I am actually headed to a family sweet sixteen party on Thompkins right now in Bed Sty.

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And before that meeting, some police were at his neck already in regards to his stance on the non-indictment.

Things are going to get very interesting in this city. And police presence was already high as result of the protests.

Damn.

and all I'm hearing are sirens.

Crazy.

And fuck CNN right now.

They are about to use this for everything it's worth as to why they should be able to kill niggas without guns.

No matter what hold the line.
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'Let's not jump to conclusions'
"Let's wait for all the facts"
#allmurderisbad


This sucks but I'm not about to let this be used and turned
They already trying it with the NYU prof protestor arrest.
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that allegedly killed those cops died of a self-inflicted gun shot....

That doesn't sound like someone who was trying to be "gangsta"....

Murder & Thompkins

Stay safe out there people. I immediately thought of when that cop got killed in the 80s in his car. The department really got turnt up after that.

Word on reddit (not confirmed, but the pieces of evidence seem credible), is the shooter shot a woman in Baltimore, fled to NYC and posted this.

http://i.imgur.com/mqhUk9m.jpg


This is another pic from his instagram today.

http://photos-h.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10881787_758814077506279_217118118_n.jpg

And it matches the clothing and shoes from the crime scene photo

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/122014_brooklyn_cops_shotpm-1.jpg

why would it get deleted? or did he delete before he was shot (if its even legit)
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then deleted the page.

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http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20141220/bed-stuy/two-police-officers-shot-bed-stuy-officials-say

And shooting blacks to justify it.

Merry
Fuckin
CHRISTMAS

Anyway...
Can I say how upset this makes me that one idiot would chose or be chosen to do something like this. We'll see how strong and permeating the movement around BLM is after this storm. To think one person could dead all the hard work and built solidarity that has been going on is heartbreaking.
I hope that is not the result. I'm praying that it's not the result because this is the first time in a long time that I felt that as a nation we were about to move away toward fascism.


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It's their constant, undying refusal to own up to their actions that fuels all of this.

I have several places to go throughout Bed-Stuy tonight, and all of them involve drinkin. But being intoxicated in the midst of freshly galvanized cops seems like a frigtening idea :-/

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Strategies? We all know they are going to use this to justify killing black people but we should be working to get out ahead of this a soon as possible. Thinking about their talking points and how to combat them with simple points that can be easily digested.
This doesn't change the wrong that the police have been committing against black folks.
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"We shouldn't jump to any conclusions until the police investigation is concluded"
"How tragic"
"How unfortunate that a lone crazed gunman would do something like this, how fortunate that a majority of our citizens are upstanding and non violent"
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I know some of them -- publicists, media strategists, fixers -- and they are brilliant. If there were ever a time to apply our minds and skills toward the cause, it is now.

If any of you are reading this, and interested, holler at my inbox. I am curious about the communications and media strategy infrastructure of BLM. Perhaps we can be of help.

not just protesting and going back to our lives. But putting our heads together and producing action.
I think there's no one answer. But you can be sure if every person plays a small role it will be impactful collectively.

I'm on the editorial side of things, but would love to contribute to an organized and sustained press strategy. Between social obligations across the neighborhood, my mind will be racing tonight.

People in the t shirts, quiet and respectful towards the family of the deceased

Aka the exact opposite of the response from the #coplivesmatter crowd

Pretty simple IMO


does it really matter?

for all my fans who keep my name in their mouth: http://i.imgur.com/v2xNOpS.jpg

That ain't the time nor the place for any kind of protest. Silent or otherwise. So disrespectful.

>That ain't the time nor the place for any kind of protest.
>Silent or otherwise. So disrespectful.
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it says we are a part of this city, we mourn this loss of life as well, etc

Is if a small group of people reached out to the family and said they wanted to attend the funeral service because they have compassion for the family, like they do all victims of violence, That could tie the issues together in a sincere way. Specifically Eric Garners mother/wife etc. Make it an MLK moment. The show of ultimate compassion.

Standing outside in tshirts is awful.



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I mean, it is a mental health issue.

Are niggas allowed to have those?

Get out that he was mentally ill before they start with the thug talk.
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and its effect on mental health..

dude was obviously crazy.


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will only be flipped by people that already believe criminality is inherent to Black people.

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there is no concept of difference without deference. the company line is "everyone is the same and should be treated the same," when it should be "everyone is different but should be treated with the same respect."

this is one example. another one is any sort of genetic difference or proclivity toward athletic aptitude. people seem to think that if we acknowledge those genetic differences, it'll open the door for some eugenics argument or emphasizing genetic differences in other areas (e.g. types of intelligence). again the problem there is that understanding the general doesn't have to extrapolate to the specific.

there is no concept of difference without deference. the company line is "everyone is the same and should be treated the same," when it should be "everyone is different but should be treated with the same respect."

this is one example. another one is any sort of genetic difference or proclivity toward athletic aptitude. people seem to think that if we acknowledge those genetic differences, it'll open the door for some eugenics argument or emphasizing genetic differences in other areas (e.g. types of intelligence). again the problem there is that understanding the general doesn't have to extrapolate to the specific.

The world must see Black people as radical not only in our protests, but also in our compassion.

but im banned tho.
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You said publically mourn the dead police

I said be outside the funerals, quiet in solidarity with the family and all that

What am I missing here


does it really matter?

for all my fans who keep my name in their mouth: http://i.imgur.com/v2xNOpS.jpg

yea

that might be it

just a guess tho


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Other than to go to the funeral?

I guess it's better to keep it on Twitter. That's much more public and mourn-y

y does this need explaining?



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A mass of people outside of a cop's funeral all dressed in "I Can't Breathe" or "Black Lives Matter" shirts is supposed to be a good look?

Do they publicly mourn any of our unarmed men, women, and children that they gun down? The time for hugging and hand holding is over.

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That's the real issue.

no one except for the guy that did it should have to explain.

so why should anyone have to respond for it?

also i am seeing all this "blue lives matter" shit, FOH. you kill a cop, it's likely a capital crime IF your ass survives being "apprehended." a cop kills you, that mf'er is on a paid vacation to tim horton's for a few months at worst.

>Niggas should be quiet and carry on stop being so bitch made

Rest in peace to those police officers who did not deserve this at all.
But this is really bad. The implication of this shooting... I can't even imagine.
The trigger happy cops that were chilling are probably all fired up again. I can't believe this shit.

continue to set that feeling off.

and be used by whichever side to push back


its all very worrying. it feels like things are winding tighter and tighter

....

But if conservative media outlets fan the flames of hatred again then someone needs to point out that this would happen if any race in America dealt with an apparent suggested genocide. Someone somewhere is going to retaliate if they feel the system does not work and is worthless. They riot over Pumpkins and we're not supposed to believe they wouldn't respond like this if roles were reversed?

With that said, I feel sorry for the officers' families. Cops need to chill out for a minute with the senseless killings and tone down the rhetoric. As black people, we need to keep doing what we been doing as we try to make it in America.

http://twitchy.com/2014/12/20/rapper-the-game-to-murdered-nypd-officers-i-guess-yall-cant-breathe-either/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter
https://mobile.twitter.com/thegame/status/546435251874959361
*sigh*

They're the biggest gang in New York

Specially after seeing THIS

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2881588/I-breathe-100-police-supporters-storm-New-York-City-sick-t-shirts-mocking-Eric-Garner-s-words.html

http://instagram.com/p/w2MuYvmonV/

>

>

So the facts are irrelevant. Got it

their narrative.

their narrative.

damn

We reap what we sow.

I'm wondering if the killer deliberately ran up on white cops
or just any random cops?

you know he's discretely being labeled "matyr" right now, by some

Unfortunately, it is these people that will get the bulk of the attention.

>
>you know he's discretely being labeled "matyr" right now, by
>some

Black cops might as well be white.

RIP tho




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The 2 cops lives spared

When they run up and ask BLM protesters what they feel or any accountability, make em go ask the killer cops and judges/DAs involved in those cases



Further,
The latest "lone gunman in the woods" cop killer was just a month or so back

No outcry in the media there

Dude was painted as an isolated mental case. (And eventually arrested, not shot, of course)
But guaranteed different rules will be applied here

If he didn't post on instagram, it would be non-existent.
This seems like dude shot his girlfriend and afterwards felt like he had nothing to lose. He was going to kill himself and was determined to take others with him.

The protestors should not feel that they have to explain his actions. Explaining it as a direct result of the non-indictments is probably the worst position anyone could take.

I think the best response is that he is just a terrible man who did terrible things and express sympathies for the victims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8

Real or fake, they find some way to connect it.

The horse is out of the barn


At minimum, it will be used to justify maintaining/tightening xyz policies across the board

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im like wtf does that even mean?

Both cases are 1 sick, psycho path decided he wanted to kill some cops... why can't it just be that? Oh, because then the media could not promote a full blown race war 24/7


@rob_starrk

“The NYPD never foresaw that the chickens would come home to roost so soon. Being an old farm boy myself, chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad; they always made me glad.”



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"breathe easy, dont break the law" shirt

man i went off. then of course hes alrady trying to tie in what happened in new york. its like white folks are foaming at the mouth.


i cant claim any of these people

I didn't know NYPD was mocking protesters in something similar

LatePass???

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2881588/I-breathe-100-police-supporters-storm-New-York-City-sick-t-shirts-mocking-Eric-Garner-s-words.html

them in the middle of a terrorist drill??

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>them in the middle of a terrorist drill??

allowed a civilian to just roll up on a cop car
and shoot
same nypd that will tackle a nigga for jumping fare on the subway
just let a dude stroll through a terrorist drill
shit is odd
the fuck terrorism they gonna stoo and they couldnt stop this in broad day light?

and there is no reason to suspect a civilian walking near a cop car(especially in nyc) is about to do anything out of the norm

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http://youtu.be/Zd9iDuUHGF0

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can you describe what it looked like or show me?


and i would say the likely hood that a cop would consider a civilian walking by his car a threat would be slim to none

There isn't much time for anyone to react to a random shooting like this. Anybody can walk up close to a police car.

What does that entail exactly?
AND
I'm gonna assume
that whatever it is they always do it
in the hood
But i could be wrong

instead of shooting on sight like they do with all the unarmed men.
this is the exact situation where there was "fear for life"

Like the dude they arrested with automatic rifle who was shooting it. Thus is what happens though when folks try to prop themselves up on lies.

where did you get the terrorist drill from?

It was made up.. there was an earlier news report in the post I think that said that...

I'm not falling for it. It's just a distraction.

the ones who don't give a fuck about you.

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When he walked into the press conference
The police up union head who specifically mentioned protestors in his statements earlier and talking about blood being on "many hands"


There'll be more don't worry just wait for further absurdity
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https://twitter.com/REALStaceyDash/status/546468417365356544

These murders are the natural result of the #Jihad on cops that @TheRevAl & @deBlasioNYC has called for. They should be held accountable.

This is her audition

I feel some kinda way that this is her response to this tragedy. Did we fail somewhere to pass on recipes to this woman? Does she realize she's one of us or has she reached a point where she passes?

or how to use it.

but how is this connected to the recent protests to draw attention to police brutality in the black community?

i see people saying it will discredit or derail the movement but i don't see how this is connected. i mean that in a literal way. what connection are you guys referring to?

Anyway what I mean is, was this guy an influential part of the movement or protests?

Just sounds to me like he was suicidal and like some suicidal people are terrified of just quietly killing themselves in their bedroom and getting it over with. They gotta go out with a bang. Delusions of grandure is a classic trait and he's Clearly he's insane.

That he found a "cause" to justify his suicide mission is not unique. Most mass shooters latch on to a higher calling of some sort.

I understand the media and political right will spin but the counter spin is simple: a mentally derranged ex-convict with a disdain for authority decided to end his life today.
He is not the first cop-killer. Hashtags did not weave insane killers out of thin air. America has a long history of guys like this that predates social media.

funny how they never blamed Alex Jones, Sean Hannity,Rush Limbaugh crowd. These guys get paid millions to rile up their base.

Yet and never held accountable when they act out their anti-government rhetoric

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/06/09/vegas-cop-killers-awash-anti-government-rightwing-conspiracy

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tim-Wise/140254320968?fref=nf

The killing of the two officers in NYC is a terrible, horrible crime. AND, here's the thing: If you treat communities like you are an occupying army don't be surprised when folks assume you have declared war on them. And then don't be shocked when some decide to declare war back. Doesn't make it right, but it's damned sure predictable. So long as the NYPD continues to excuse every act of violence done by their members, and so long as they act as though they are above criticism, the war will likely continue, which is tragic for everyone on all sides of it. But unlike the cops, who can't and won't express real remorse for anyone they kill, we who protest them do express remorse for those officers who are killed. That's the difference between us, and it matters. And so long as black people are expected to express remorse for murdered officers who they did not personally kill, while officers are free to say they have no remorse for the black people they kill -- and they would "do it again" -- where supremacy remains in full effect.

Just because he said "In Full Effect".

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http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/wabc/images/cms/automation/vod/445298_630x354.jpg

or his Yearbook pic?

>http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/wabc/images/cms/automation/vod/445298_630x354.jpg

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He looked like a chubby nerd

this guy killed three people ... and we are worried about him being painted in a negative light? lol. save this shit for the victims who get screwed, the people who need/deserve protecting.

he stalked two random cops and shot them while they sat in their car
why does he deserve a "good" photo?

The painting of him as "a killer" is what happens to black and brown folks who commit crimes like this. We flatten their humanity and justify the discrimination that black and brown folks face as a whole. Justify the constant suspicion around us, around the way we dress, around the way we take pictures, around the way we talk. All of those things become reasons for suspicion. White criminals get are spoken about as "good people... we don't know what happened." They're humanized first. They are criminals over everything (like you've just done to him). We are never humanized. Then we got people like you saying that shit is okay.

I can't read your tone. I hope it's sarcastic.

But he was a piece of shit for shooting his woman in the stomach

If his day had ended right there, i wouldnt think any differently about him than i do right now

I can simultaneously acknowledge the conditions from which this was born, AND think that this guy was a terrible person

The point is that the media portrayal of black/brown folks is that they're criminals before anything else. White people do not face that same standard. They were always "good people" "no one saw this coming" and "we don't know where it came from."

We are seen as criminals before ANYTHING else. Before being sons, daughters, mothers, fathers, good students, community members, we're just "killers." The pictures, like the one that was posted above, just reinforce this idea.

Im judging this one guy on who he is

And like i said, i agree with your point. But i dont think this case is the one to bring it out.

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Do you really not see how it's problematic for our fucking community that he gets labeled a killer before he gets labeled a person? A person dealing with mental illness on top of that...

such, I give nary a fuck because I can think of 121,234,232 things that get more of a priority.

I'll let you worry about picking about the right picture for him and who ever wants to waste time debating angels on a pinhead with you.


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If cops are drawing lines where officers who commit police brutality are on their side and this killer, protesters and De Blasio are on the other side, then you may see more shit like this happening.


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worries me

Stay inside folks-- there's a war on.

chose to use his personal trauma of shooting his ex or gal to take the lives of any cops.

I live near where this happened & because of at least 5 shootings this summer the nypd has had patrols sitting outside of the projects 24/7, sometimes with lights, sometimes with vans, and sometimes with towers

it's been causing pressure on the blocks

it's surveillance style & agressive because they keep the stadium ligths on 24/7 sometimes

this guy was not an activist, just a loser looking to be truly lost forever

it's sad the nypd (many police forces) can't show at least a miniscule amount of regret/remorse/humility to the families of the unarmed killed in their custody, as they show for their own.

we all need to show some respect on both sides

it's all reprehensible.

http://gawker.com/florida-cop-murdered-while-responding-to-a-call-1673893910

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>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
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>http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/

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go to the highest cliff and hang glide with that.

http://i.imgur.com/En8bDPQl.jpg

also which head officer's bright idea was it to turn their backs on the fucking mayor at the hospital?

you know these cops do nothing but take orders, so somebody had to officially order it

http://gothamist.com/2014/12/21/cops_shot_nyc_nypd.php#photo-1

"(police union head) Lynch also confirmed that he staged a scene in the hospital hallway, where family members, friends, and uniformed officers could be seen weeping. As Mayor de Blasio and his staff walked to the briefing, Lynch and his subordinates turned their backs to him."

But wow Lynch is a joke.

"The mayor's hands are LITERALLY DRIPPING WITH THE BLOOD of the slain officers"

lol

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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

I hate that dude with a passion.


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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

are facing as a country

all of the condolences, sympathy for their families, response from the POTUS

where was all of that for Eric Garner and Michael Brown?

https://z-1-scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10410357_10152978452858189_1705138786833515706_n.jpg?oh=b3f9864d9d8f44c8a1a4aea2eec2cde9&oe=553FD93E

it's procedure now for the media to criminalize the victims of police brutality

strange that these cops are almost held in regards as some sort of angels

I can't help but wonder if they have some dirt on them

or why the media immediately portrays these killings as some unholy events

why aren't we MORE upset when civilians are killed?

I really don't get it.

no less and no more


@rob_starrk

>are facing as a country
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>all of the condolences, sympathy for their families, response
>from the POTUS
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>where was all of that for Eric Garner and Michael Brown?

huh?

no one expressed sympathy for Garner or Brown?

Obama didn't?

what?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-brown-shooting-protesters-police-clash-overnight-in-ferguson-mo/2014/08/12/733985e6-2220-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html

enforcement?

Do you not see a difference in the repsonses

"President Obama on Tuesday offered his “deepest condolences” to the family and community of Michael Brown, an unarmed black Missouri teenager who was shot to death by police Saturday.

In a statement, Obama said that the 18-year-old’s death has “prompted strong passions” but urged people to remember Brown, through “reflection and understanding.”

“I know the events of the past few days have prompted strong passions, but as details unfold, I urge everyone in Ferguson, Missouri, and across the country, to remember this young man through reflection and understanding,” Obama said. “We should comfort each other and talk with one another in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds. Along with our prayers, that’s what Michael and his family, and our broader American community, deserve.”

vs

"I unconditionally condemn today’s murder of two police officers in New York City. Two brave men won’t be going home to their loved ones tonight, and for that, there is no justification. The officers who serve and protect our communities risk their own safety for ours every single day – and they deserve our respect and gratitude every single day. Tonight, I ask people to reject violence and words that harm, and turn to words that heal – prayer, patient dialogue, and sympathy for the friends and family of the fallen."

also

as seen in other incidents as well

the response was immediate

the only reason he responded in the Brown case was because of the protests

and he did, and continues to direct most of his responses toward the protesters and how we should react, blah blah blah

while actually doing nothing. (has he been to Ferguson yet?)

you tend to put too much on your activist posting. this is part of your schtick.

good luck w/it.

I think the overall reaction/response to these shootings is vastly different

see the Tim Wise post above

there is a small number of people that will defend the nypd shootings, etc...

compared to every single person either presently or formerly associated with law enforcement in the US

having defended the Brown and Garner killings

from the responses I saw

maybe you saw different?

LOL

i get the context - turn the rhetoric up to 10 and keep it there so as to light a fire under ppl who might be operating on like a 3. the hope is to get them fired up to at least a 6 or so b/c that might spur action on their part. and those who are already at like 4 or 5 will move up to a 7 or even 8 and get moving. those who already at 8 or above will just remain hot and moving.

i have to remind myself of this when i read/hear activist rhetoric. i tend to want to temper it a bit b/c the heated rhetoric can also fuel the flame of the opposition. but fuck the opposition - we need our base fired up. so fire away.

you have seen the video, yes?

is that rhetoric?

good luck w/it, guy.

Has anyone, of an official capacity, asked the PDs to stop killing unarmed citizens?

...yet...

can you see it?

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unarmed citizens being killed by police should be just as much of a BFD, IMO

I want that outrage/reaction every time an unarmed citizen is killed by the police

It just isn't.

are all held in higher regard than genpop
if you kill one of them you get "extra" time off GP

Two cops sitting in a car, minding their business, their isn't much of a question whether they were innocent at night.

With something like Mike Brown their is a colorable dispute as to what happen and whether Mike Brown contributed to his own death by getting into a fight with a cop.



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said is true. The dude i was replying to would likely have an issue with that.

See Hitokiri's posts earlier...

The only reason there was ANY narrative around Mike Brown being provocative in the situation in the immediate aftermath of his death was because he was a Black man.

Those police officers were officers who had been locking up Black men for years. That could be the first line in the story... "minding their own business" specifically means participating in a system that locks up Black and Brown people.

That's not to give an argument around whether anything that happened was okay or not, but that this argument about Mike Brown potentially provoking the situation ONLY exists because he was a Black non-cop civilian.


>Two cops sitting in a car, minding their business, their
>isn't much of a question whether they were innocent at night.
>
>
>With something like Mike Brown their is a colorable dispute as
>to what happen and whether Mike Brown contributed to his own
>death by getting into a fight with a cop.

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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

That's not better
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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

>That's not better

(see post about America being the best place for blacks)

the government and media are still trying their hardest to make everyone worship the troops, so same shit here with the police. And white America will always be on board with that in larger numbers than will come out and march with black folks about anything, no matter how legit an issue it is.

But yeah, it's a huge problem as far as getting any justice in this country.

Fuck the cops and fuck the troops.

when completely innocent little girls and boys get police driveby's in the chest and flashbang grenades to the face, and old ladies get shot during drug raids, the response is- "its the suspects fault, he put his family in harms way with his life choices"

or just the flat 'currently under investigation'

Going after the Mayor is retarded... PBA really is so clouded by the blue wall they just don't get it.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/blue-lives-matter-nypd-shooting/383977/

presidential denouncements and national grieving commence forthwith!












oh wait, actually none of that other stuff happened, just the shooting.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/09/justice/las-vegas-shooting/

It happened in June.

http://time.com/3643462/kareem-abdul-jabbar-nypd-shootings-police/

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: The Police Aren’t Under Attack. Institutionalized Racism Is.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar @kaj33 Dec. 21, 2014

The way to honor those who defend our liberties with their lives — as did my father and grandfather — is not to curtail liberty, but to exercise it fully in pursuit of a just and peaceful society

According to Ecclesiastes, “To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose.” For me, today, that means a time to seek justice and a time to mourn the dead.

The recent brutal murder of two Brooklyn police officers, Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, is a national tragedy that should inspire nationwide mourning. Both my grandfather and father were police officers, so I appreciate what a difficult and dangerous profession law enforcement is. We need to value and celebrate the many officers dedicated to protecting the public and nourishing our justice system. It’s a job most of us don’t have the courage to do.

At the same time, however, we need to understand that their deaths are in no way related to the massive protests against systemic abuses of the justice system as symbolized by the recent deaths—also national tragedies—of Eric Garner, Akai Gurley, and Michael Brown. Ismaaiyl Brinsley, the suicidal killer, wasn’t an impassioned activist expressing political frustration, he was a troubled man who had shot his girlfriend earlier that same day. He even Instagrammed warnings of his violent intentions. None of this is the behavior of a sane man or rational activist. The protests are no more to blame for his actions than The Catcher in the Rye was for the murder of John Lennon or the movie Taxi Driver for the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan. Crazy has its own twisted logic and it is in no way related to the rational cause-and-effect world the rest of us attempt to create.

Those who are trying to connect the murders of the officers with the thousands of articulate and peaceful protestors across America are being deliberately misleading in a cynical and selfish effort to turn public sentiment against the protestors. This is the same strategy used when trying to lump in the violence and looting with the legitimate protestors, who have disavowed that behavior. They hope to misdirect public attention and emotion in order to stop the protests and the progressive changes that have already resulted. Shaming and blaming is a lot easier than addressing legitimate claims.


Some police unions are especially heinous perpetrators. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio’s previous public support of protestors has created friction with these unions. The Patrolman’s Benevolent Association responded with a petition asking that the mayor not attend the funerals of officers killed in the line of duty. Following the murders of Ramos and Liu, an account appearing to represent the Sergeants Benevolent Association tweeted: “The blood of 2 executed police officers is on the hands of Mayor de Blasio.” Former New York governor George Pataki tweeted: “Sickened by these barbaric acts, which sadly are a predictable outcome of divisive anti-cop rhetoric of #ericholder and #mayordeblasio. #NYPD.”

This phony and logically baffling indignation is similar to that expressed by the St. Louis County Police Association when it demanded an apology from the NFL when several Rams players entered the field with their hands held high in the iconic Michael Brown gesture of surrender. Or when LeBron James and W.R. Allen wore his “I Can’t Breathe” shirts echoing Eric Garner’s final plea before dying. Such outrage by police unions and politicians implies that there is no problem, which is the erroneous perception that the protestors are trying to change.

This shrill cry of “policism” (a form of reverse racism) by Pataki and the police unions is a hollow and false whine born of financial self-interest (unions) or party politics (Republican Pataki besmirching Democrat de Blasio) rather than social justice. These tragic murders now become a bargaining chip in whatever contract negotiations or political aspirations they have.

What prompted a mentally unstable man to shoot two officers? Protestors? The mayor? Or the unjust killings of unarmed black men? Probably none of them. He was a ticking bomb that anything might have set off. What’s most likely to prevent future incidents like this? Stopping the protests which had sparked real and positive changes through a national dialogue? Changes that can only increase faith in and respect for the police? No, because the killer was mentally unfit. Most likely protecting the police from future incidents will come from better mental health care to identify, treat, and monitor violent persons. Where are those impassioned tweets demanding that?

In a Dec. 21, 2014 article about the shooting, the Los Angeles Times referred to the New York City protests as “anti-police marches,” which is grossly inaccurate and illustrates the problem of perception the protestors are battling. The marches are meant to raise awareness of double standards, lack of adequate police candidate screening, and insufficient training that have resulted in unnecessary killings. Police are not under attack, institutionalized racism is. Trying to remove sexually abusive priests is not an attack on Catholicism, nor is removing ineffective teachers an attack on education. Bad apples, bad training, and bad officials who blindly protect them, are the enemy. And any institution worth saving should want to eliminate them, too.

“To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose.” This is the season and time when we should be resolved to continue seeking justice together and not let those with blind biases distract, diminish, or divide us. The way to honor those who defend our liberties with their lives—as did my father and grandfather—is not to curtail liberty, but to exercise it fully in pursuit of a just and peaceful society.

Abdul-Jabbar is a six-time NBA champion and league Most Valuable Player. He is also a celebrated author, filmmaker and education ambassador.

Why does no one tell the truth about modern day policing being rooted in the hunting down of black lives and breaking up organized labor. Policing has always been about oppressing and victimizing the poor. Until folks tallk about that nothing is going to "improve".

>Why does no one tell the truth about modern day policing
>being rooted in the hunting down of black lives and breaking
>up organized labor.



how are you finagling labor unions in all of this?
what do labor unions have to do with jordan baker, michael brown, eric gardner, tamir rice and the hundreds of others that died at the hands of the police departments of this country?

which was the first time the police responded to large organized protest that was specifically for the rights of folks to organize... it's the origin of the 8-hour work day.

WIki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

In the northern territories modern policing grew from the men hired by the factory owners to bust up organized labor unions. They were appropriately called "strike or unio busters" I believe.

blamin de blasio for da deaths

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/27/police-turn-their-backs-on-mayor-deblasio-during-funeral-for-fallen-nypd-cop/