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12679202, Stand your Ground defense fails. For Asian guy. (swipe)
Posted by Doronmonkflake, Thu Dec-18-14 05:27 AM
After all, you can't just shoot people you think look like a threat.

Not if they're White.

http://news.yahoo.com/deliberations-resume-exchange-student-killing-062400337.html


Note how little it says about the young man's crime of breaking and entering. It never says what he was wearing. It doesn't mention what drugs he was on at the time or how many other houses he previously broke into. Just that the late Diren Dede was unarmed, a German exchange student and aged 17.

How interesting.
12679203, lol
Posted by Binlahab, Thu Dec-18-14 05:37 AM
its...more then a little absurd but...at this point in american history nothing shocks me anymore


does it really matter?

for all my fans who keep my name in their mouth: http://i.imgur.com/v2xNOpS.jpg
12679204, It really is unmistakable when you actually look at it.
Posted by Doronmonkflake, Thu Dec-18-14 05:39 AM
The smear campaign against us even works on us on this board.

I see some of the Steven Candie thoughts that come out in these discussions and cringe.
12679205, Problem was, it wasn't a black kid... Not that he was Asian..
Posted by ndibs, Thu Dec-18-14 06:05 AM
If it was a "thug" he shot it would be okay.

May have not even have been prosecuted.

You can't bait someone one but you had to go and talk to a bunch of neighbors to even find that out that he did the baiting.

Here once a month a burglar gets shot and killed by a homeowner - not even kidding - and no charges are ever filed.
12679206, It's a joke. On us, as usual.
Posted by Doronmonkflake, Thu Dec-18-14 06:14 AM
12679313, sadly you are totally right.
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Dec-18-14 10:05 AM
i still dgaf about this guy though, and it's good that he is going to jail
12679330, its both
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Dec-18-14 10:13 AM
This Asian cop in Brooklyn who shot the kid in the Pink Houses is gonna go down and take the fall for all these white cops-- and deservedly so.

But you put an asian man in front of a jury or grand jury of mostly white people and they still see us as outsiders too. There's no human element that they can relate to like when they see another white face - it's just ching chong ching .
12679312, I'm starting to get disheartened with the people I like/identify with now
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Dec-18-14 10:04 AM
Can we not move past the race angle for two fucking seconds here?

We want this defense to protect someone who BAITS PEOPLE TO MURDER THEM? There was a similar case in Minnesota where two people were killed, and the homeowner was convicted there, too.

Let's not start calling for multiple wrongs to make a right.

Now, vis-a-vis Zimmerman, I find it interesting that so much emphasis is placed on this guy's hard on to kill someone and so little was placed on Zimmerman's. That's what I find repugnant and I'm glad it was punished here, people who want to turn self-defense into some sort of twisted, recreational pleasure.
12679325, i'm with you on this one.
Posted by veritas, Thu Dec-18-14 10:11 AM
this dude purposely lured people into his house to try to murder them.

i'm sympathetic to the reality that the law is unevenly applied to different races, and that's fucked up, but if you want to bang that drum Trevor Dooley's a lot better comparison than this psychopath.
12679375, I was shocked to see how fair they were to this victim.
Posted by Doronmonkflake, Thu Dec-18-14 10:50 AM
They represented him as somebody who did something wrong in this instance and somebody with greater power killed him. They called the shooter a threat to the neighborhood. They didnt call him a thug. Or a demon. Or Hulk Hogan. Nobody made excuses. Nobody came in with corroborating lies. There was a trial. There was a sentence.

It was seeing how the trayvon case could have gone in a society that gave a damn.

That's why I'm mad. Not because this kid was white. Because they see him as a kid.

12679404, showed a nice clean cut pic of him and everything
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Thu Dec-18-14 11:07 AM
12679421, it was downright sympathetic. like maybe a kid died.
Posted by Doronmonkflake, Thu Dec-18-14 11:14 AM
12679409, that part i get. the disparity is disgusting.
Posted by veritas, Thu Dec-18-14 11:09 AM
this dude is a piece of shit and i'm glad he's going to prison tho.
12679424, The disparity is all any of my anger is about. this dude is awful.
Posted by Doronmonkflake, Thu Dec-18-14 11:15 AM
12679431, word. glad you clarified and i share your sentiments.
Posted by veritas, Thu Dec-18-14 11:17 AM
if a white kid who goes in someone's garage to steal can be treated with humanity, we ought to be able to stop with all the "perfect victim" bullshit.
12679448, sadly we can not. Do not pass racism do not collect
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Dec-18-14 11:28 AM
40 acres and a mule.
12679322, i imagine this niggas' Whitenes Counselor pulling him off to the
Posted by poetx, Thu Dec-18-14 10:08 AM
side, in hushed tones:

"No, no NO! You do not suspect or shoot WHITE kids! He was Germanic. C'mon, now, buddy. Read the fine print on your 2nd Amendment rights before you make us all look bad."


peace & blessings,

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12679327, This guy was seeing a hair stylist?
Posted by Cold Truth, Thu Dec-18-14 10:12 AM
For what?

Did he actually pay for that flat ass haircut?

Yes, I'm asking the important questions here.
12679347, Oh, and as far as I'm concerned, you take the bait? That's on you
Posted by Cold Truth, Thu Dec-18-14 10:28 AM
Let’s talk about “bait”.

If, for example, a pretty woman sits by you at the bar, strikes up a conversation, invites you back to her place, and you show up to get robbed/murdered/what have you?

No, that’s not on you. You (presumably) didn’t have malicious intent. Perhaps you should have been a bit more careful in your eagerness to bed a pretty girl, but outside of questionable judgment, that’s “bait” that wasn’t inviting you to do harm.

When the “bait” entails you doing something shady, well, sucks to be you. It could very well have been someone who wasn’t setting a trap, someone who was perfectly innocent and simply forgot to close the door or whatever, and if you decide to enter someone’s home uninvited? You get zero pity from me. None whatsoever. Anyone who does that shit deserves whatever they get, because yes... whoever lives there might be a psycho and that's the risk you run doing that kind of dirt.

Obviously, someone who wants to set a trap to *catch* a crook and someone who sets a trap as an excuse to kill are two different things. Someone trying to protect his family doesn’t run around bragging about how people will see it on the news, so fuck this guy two.

Still, please excuse me for not shedding any tears for the kid.
12679357, I don't feel sorry for the kid either. There are no good guys here.
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Thu Dec-18-14 10:34 AM
12679608, right, it's like people getting upset over bait cars.
Posted by PoppaGeorge, Thu Dec-18-14 01:03 PM
If you had ZERO intention of stealing a car or making off with the contents of a car bait cars shouldn't bother you. I know people like to say they only put bait cars in the hood but that just ain't true. I worked in posh ass Scottsdale, AZ. Our cars were getting hit up in the parking lot during work hours (even me, got hit for my CD wallet full of classic shit and some PC parts I had just bought one day).

Scottsdale PD set up a bait car operation and our own security stepped up surveillance.

They ended up nabbing a bunch of Mexicans and white teens from the surrounding neighborhood.

Nobody got mad at having a bait car in the lot.
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12679359, I think they got it right...
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Dec-18-14 10:35 AM
hell, dude said they would see him on the news...

and why the fuck are people acting like this German kid wasn't a thief?
12679454, I wonder how Asians feel about this case?
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Dec-18-14 11:35 AM