the shit is not pretty. It requires mad effort. You gotta eat when you aint even hungry. I got a potna who is skinny as fuck. Dude has literally been the same size since high school and we both turned 40 this year. Remarkable, actually. He told me one time he was eating like a horse but still couldn't gain. I made him right down for me one day's worth of eating...every.single.thing. This ninja gave me the paper, he hadn't eaten over 1800 calories, lol.