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12668604, dude shot 10x in the head on hollywood and highland
Posted by The Mac, Sat Dec-06-14 01:30 AM
its all over the news....

where the riot at?
12668606, didnt something similar happen in times square a couple years ago?
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sat Dec-06-14 01:36 AM
seems excessive to shoot a guy with a knife and it seems excessive to fire that many shots in a big ass crowd. but i dont think anything will come of this.
12668612, damn aint that a high traffic area?
Posted by falafel stand pimpin, Sat Dec-06-14 02:04 AM
pretty good marksman to not hit anyone else
12668615, probably THE most walked intersection in LA
Posted by The Mac, Sat Dec-06-14 02:26 AM
shit is crazy
12668618, It's after 3:00 in the morning, people are sleep and don't know about it yet.
Posted by sixteenstone, Sat Dec-06-14 03:17 AM
They are alleging he had a knife and assaulted someone. But come the fuck on 10 shots?
All these cops need training. The option to just execute every single crazy person with weapon is not cutting it.
There has to be a better way. Cause plenty of people with weapons get taken alive. This shoot first shit is out of control.
But they will say it was in guidelines, they feared for their lives, yaddy yaddy yaddy and the rest of the routine.
I been saying they kill white people too with impunity. It's just not nearly as high a number as Black men.
12668619, once in grade school my sister got jumped by two girls
Posted by sixteenstone, Sat Dec-06-14 03:34 AM
they were sisters. She was walking with food from the local burger joint and they ran up on her.
One girl pulled out a knife but she dropped it. While she was picking it up she threw the food at her head and kicked her in the face.
The other sister was not much of a fighter and stood there in shock while she picked the knife up in defense.

They both try to come at her on the attack, so she stabbed the one sister who originally had the knife in the shoulder.
I wonder sometimes in that moment if the police would shoot and kill her because she was there with that bloody knife.
Is that the proper reaction just because you see someone with a weapon? Just shoot on site and ask questions later?

I'm not saying that's the case with this shooting. But there can be multiple reasons and scenarios why a person is holding a weapon in the moment.
It seems a lot of police today don't take the time to even find out or give the person a chance to surrender. It's a shoot first and on sight mentality.
12668650, I think they'd be less inclined to shoot first
Posted by tariqhu, Sat Dec-06-14 10:37 AM
since its a knife. I could see the cops commanding her to drop the weapon. if she didn't comply or tried jab a cop or the other girl, then its a diff story.
12668623, A motherfucking Swiss Army knife!!!
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Sat Dec-06-14 04:19 AM
They shot him when he "approached them" with a POCKET KNIFE. wtf

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/hollywood-highland-shooting-report-284945511.html

12668626, I arrived about fifteen minutes later.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Dec-06-14 04:52 AM
I was going to a friend's party.

Needless to say, H&H was a shitshow.
12668628, isn't it always a shitshow? lol
Posted by Madvillain 626, Sat Dec-06-14 05:04 AM
12668630, Video of the aftermath
Posted by MEAT, Sat Dec-06-14 06:20 AM

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10204546404974215&set=vb.1656194052&type=2&theater

They keep the guns trained on his still body instead of administering aid

Then handcuff a dead body.

Seriously

No matter how the sitatunga started cops treat their murder victims like roadkill
12668633, LAPD are the biggest pieces of shit in the country
Posted by after midnight, Sat Dec-06-14 07:07 AM
So cowardly and over the top with it.
12668645, comment section: Amy Endwhitesupremacy Bookbinder asked "Did he die?"
Posted by BigJazz, Sat Dec-06-14 09:07 AM
the first thing that popped in my head was Ghostface...


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I'm tryna be better off, not better than...
12668685, "THE FUCK YOU MEAN IS HE DEAD?!"
Posted by im_freshhh, Sat Dec-06-14 02:09 PM
12668692, lol @ that robocop motherfucker at 1:24
Posted by JayEmm, Sat Dec-06-14 02:34 PM
>https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10204546404974215&set=vb.1656194052&type=2&theater
12668641, LAPD .. business as usual
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sat Dec-06-14 08:38 AM
12668693, I want the whole story
Posted by atruhead, Sat Dec-06-14 02:43 PM
I've been there less than 10 times in my 2.5 years here, but I know it's heavily populated with tourists, club goers, human vermin and the like

dude had to be a real threat to people's safety to be executed like that in public
12668719, No he didn't.
Posted by MEAT, Sat Dec-06-14 05:02 PM
I'm not saying he wasn't wrong. But cops are bitch assed and trigger happy.
He just happened to be the latest bullet receiver.
12668702, Have they identified the victim yet? Apparently he wasn't black
Posted by ThaTruth, Sat Dec-06-14 03:35 PM
12669094, ?
Posted by ThaTruth, Sun Dec-07-14 10:54 PM
12669097, not black
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Sun Dec-07-14 11:07 PM
really all this shit could happen to anyone and it would get swept under the rug just the same, black people are just favored targets. IMO it's the same shit as the drug war, the racism is just the thick, top layer of what's fucked up about police violence. the core of it affects everyone.
12669117, He was a cos player dressed up as the Scream character
Posted by bentagain, Mon Dec-08-14 12:13 AM
http://www.scpr.org/news/2014/12/07/48520/hollywood-and-highland-shooting-victim-played-scre/

Everyone knows this intersection

Hollywood/Highland

Madame Tussauds, Garman's Chinese Theater, The Nokia Theater where the Oscars were held, etc...

and everybody's seen the cos players dressed up like Batman, Spiderman, Chewbacca, etc...

he was one of those dudes

yes, he was white

but dude was in a costume with a prop knife

I find it hard to believe that there isn't video of the entire interaction

other than Disneyland, this is probably the top tourist destination in LA
12669143, wow, this is really ridiculous
Posted by sixteenstone, Mon Dec-08-14 06:11 AM
which is why I was saying officers today need to be trained to fully assess a situation instead of shooting on sight.
12669311, aint no training for the ever-changing
Posted by MiracleRic, Mon Dec-08-14 11:03 AM
environment we live in today...

i'm not giving them a pass at all on this shit...

but we gotta stop acting like training is going to correct humans from being humans...

there should be more of it...but it's not gonna prevent idiots from being idiots...

i'm thinking a better solution might be less armed policemen...lots of 1st world countries have largely unarmed police forces...not sure just how practical that is here in such a gun-loving 5th amendment praising place...but some of this shit isn't exactly trainable

training won't really help u differentiate real threats from fake threats...and training without regular real-life reinforcement is almost like no training at all...trial and error on this shit is usually tragic as fuck
12669329, I want to agree, but feel like this wouldn't have happened
Posted by Atillah Moor, Mon Dec-08-14 11:15 AM
In say England, France, or maybe eve pre 9/11.
12669564, what's the 5th amendment got to do with it?
Posted by veritas, Mon Dec-08-14 02:36 PM
not sure just how practical that is here in
>such a gun-loving 5th amendment praising place...
12669326, RE: dude shot 10x in the head on hollywood and highland
Posted by double 0, Mon Dec-08-14 11:14 AM
I really do agree with some on the board. There needs to be a post academy probationary period where beat cops do not have a fire arm (give em tasers, mace etc). Learn to deal with (and diffuse) situations FIRST then get a weapon a year or 2 later.
12669333, this is a good idea
Posted by MiracleRic, Mon Dec-08-14 11:16 AM
12669417, lol, that doesn't make any sense
Posted by ThaTruth, Mon Dec-08-14 12:28 PM
>I really do agree with some on the board. There needs to be
>a post academy probationary period where beat cops do not have
>a fire arm (give em tasers, mace etc). Learn to deal with
>(and diffuse) situations FIRST then get a weapon a year or 2
>later.
12669552, In some cases this is fine, but others this would have deadly
Posted by Dae021, Mon Dec-08-14 02:25 PM
consequences

There would be a higher percentage of civilian trying police officers because they thought/knew they didn't have a firearm, and others would just plain get shot.

I understand the idea that making cops work through situations without the use of deadly force but you can't send someone into a situation without a firearm.

It works in other countries because their society doesn't have near the amount of gun violence or violence that our country has in general but here, it would be have terrible consequences.
12669560, RE: In some cases this is fine, but others this would have deadly
Posted by double 0, Mon Dec-08-14 02:35 PM
There needs to be a slow escalation in what rookie's cops deal with as well.

As it stands now.. you are putting under-educated unprepared regular niggas with badges on the street to "police" under-educated unprepared regular ass niggas...

The shit just ends with whomever exerts the most force the fastest.. That isnt a winning formula.
12669698, RE: dude shot 10x in the head on hollywood and highland
Posted by double 0, Mon Dec-08-14 04:24 PM
Something to add to the convo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/06/i-was-a-st-louis-cop-my-peers-were-racist-and-violent-and-theres-only-one-fix/?hpid=z3