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12649932, If you had to live in a Southern city
Posted by John Forte, Wed Dec-31-69 07:00 PM

Poll question: If you had to live in a Southern city

Poll result (68 votes)
I'm a Southerner: ATL (12 votes)Vote
I'm a Southerner: Houston (3 votes)Vote
I'm a Southerner: New Orleans (5 votes)Vote
Not a Southerner: ATL (15 votes)Vote
Not a Southerner: Houston (10 votes)Vote
Not a Southerner: New Orleans (23 votes)Vote

  

12649935, ATL no question
Posted by Madvillain 626, Fri Nov-14-14 10:38 AM
12649938, i want to go to houston but it's looking like dallas is my next stop
Posted by ALmighty44, Fri Nov-14-14 10:44 AM
but it would only be a two year stint in dallas or if that doesn't go through it's looking like my next option is charleston.

as much as i love living above and just below the Mason-Dixon line, these winters are starting to suck and going south is sounding more and and more appealing
12649996, D town gets tornados on occasion.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Nov-14-14 11:09 AM
Best of luck. Don't end up with a shag either.
12649945, h town..rest of that shit is bamma
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Nov-14-14 10:49 AM
ive lived in new orleans..no thank you..and atl seem bamma as fk to live in..
12649950, Torn betwixt ATL and NO
Posted by TheAlbionist, Fri Nov-14-14 10:52 AM
ATL won... the lady has family there and it's always been a minor plan to live out there for at least a few years at some point.

But I'd love to make a life in N'Awlins.
12649952, Houston aint "southern", bro
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 10:53 AM
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12649955, Oh look, an adherent to the Pimp C school of geography.
Posted by Mongo, Fri Nov-14-14 10:55 AM
12649963, houston was more apt to ride daytons with 16 switches
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 10:57 AM
than whatever john deere tractor they was pushin in atl
12649958, speak on it
Posted by ALmighty44, Fri Nov-14-14 10:55 AM
Because to me anything past Cincinnati is southern
12649961, I haven't visited Houston since 2000
Posted by John Forte, Fri Nov-14-14 10:56 AM
but back then it was very Southern. I'd argue that of the major Texas cities, it's the least Southwestern and most Southern.
12649969, my cousins from san diego came here last wknd and said...
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 10:58 AM
my neighborhood reminded them of la jolla
i live in The Galleria

3rd ward houston looks like southeast san diego or south central LA

i was trying hard to find them someothing that was quentisentially HOUSTON and not look like cali
the only thing i could come up with is River Oaks


>but back then it was very Southern. I'd argue that of the
>major Texas cities, it's the least Southwestern and most
>Southern.
12650000, Whats Montrose or the Museum district like in Cali?
Posted by MEAT, Fri Nov-14-14 11:11 AM
I get to come to my second home for nearly a whole month in a few weeks DEC1-23
It should be nice to catch up with old friends. May even get some new ink.

12650011, uhhh i cant put my finger on it...but its there
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 11:17 AM
i'd say montrose = kensington/adams ave/hillcrest in san diego
maybe melrose in LA

museum district is balboa park in san diego

san francisco might better offer more exact replicas of these two nabes tho

12670343, there is no arts district in sd
Posted by GirlChild, Tue Dec-09-14 12:49 PM
you could say ray st, but there are no galleries there anymore
you could say barrio logan, but those are craftsman and not artists (no judgement, there just aren't any galleries there)

space4art is about it and it's in the east village

san diego doesn't have an art scene, everything is spread out and ppl are fleeing the city for LA
12649966, oh its southern..it jus aint bamma
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Nov-14-14 10:57 AM
12649979, usually black cities has a hood with all the historical wealthy blacks
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 11:02 AM
where is that in houston?
mcgregor???
12650001, use to be macgregor....all thru 3rd ward..
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Nov-14-14 11:11 AM
12650008, thats what i was thinking but macgregor was staunchly jewish til 1960s
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 11:14 AM
i like to do research on OLD black money but houston be leaving me coming up short

everything is pretty recent
like 1950s and newer
12650002, Houston is a relatively new city. It doesn't have that kind of history
Posted by John Forte, Fri Nov-14-14 11:11 AM
12650428, Your state fought in the Confederacy = Southern
Posted by bigkarma, Fri Nov-14-14 02:47 PM
nm
12649954, New Orleans is very excellent. I wouldn't kill myself in Houston.
Posted by Mongo, Fri Nov-14-14 10:54 AM
Houston reminded me a lot of LA for some reason.

And I found a reasonably good Jewish deli down there, so I'd survive.

New Orleans is just great on a lot of levels though. I've got friends down there, my wife's got family. I hated the humidity, and the French Quarter basically reminded of the LES in the late 80s, but I could keep a pistol on me at all times, which I think balances the whole thing out.
12649960, Because houston aint a southern city
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 10:56 AM
>Houston reminded me a lot of LA for some reason.
>
>And I found a reasonably good Jewish deli down there, so I'd
>survive.


kenny & ziggyz?
12650039, Yeah. And the Italian place a block over wasn't bad either.
Posted by Mongo, Fri Nov-14-14 11:38 AM
Houston's diverse, has good eats and plenty of jobs. I wouldn't be thrilled driving everywhere, but I think I could cope. Also? Central air.

AND HOW YOU GONNA SAY IT'S NOT A SOUTHERN CITY WHEN IT HAS CHIK-FIL-A

YOU HEATHEN
12650051, Nigga, they got WAFFLE HOUSE
Posted by John Forte, Fri Nov-14-14 11:41 AM
and they had slaves
12650063, funny. but seriously i dont know of a waffle house IN houston
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 11:46 AM
crackle barrels is here tho
bilboards and everything
12650131, there's one near iah. But that may technically be humble.
Posted by MEAT, Fri Nov-14-14 12:08 PM
12650841, I10, westchase
Posted by Mgmt, Sat Nov-15-14 01:12 AM
>crackle barrels is here tho
>bilboards and everything
12650878, So crazy cause I drive by this one to go to Frank's all the time
Posted by deejboram, Sat Nov-15-14 08:14 AM
and the other one up off Will Clayton is on the way to the airport (if you come up 59) so I know i've seen that one a grillion times too

i aint been to huntsville, alabama in like 20 years but i can rattle off like fifteen diffrent WH locations there with the quickness
12650057, huh? which italian? but try nielsens next time. its better.
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 11:45 AM
http://www.yelp.com/biz/nielsens-delicatessen-houston

nielsens is up the street and around the corner from ziggys

ive been thoroughly dissapointed in ziggys and ive been four times or so

12650081, Next time we're down there, I'd fool with it.
Posted by Mongo, Fri Nov-14-14 11:52 AM
12649962, ATL gets my vote even thoguht it's too spread out
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-14-14 10:57 AM
NO seems like a good idea on paper but ionno. I think the idea sounds better than the reality.

Never been to Houston

I live in Charlotte tho and have no desire to live in any other southern city.
12649965, i voted purple
Posted by MrThomas43423, Fri Nov-14-14 10:57 AM
New Orleans seems like the most fun in the least about of square footage which is what is the major appeal of East coast city life is. the metropolitian area is more condensed than sprawling and i like that. especially in DC.

with that said. i might end up in Atlanta soon. i really don't wanna live there. i think i'd enjoy myself but not as much as i would in DC. but...i'd live like a fucking king. and i wanna live like a fucking king.
---------------------------------------
it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.
12649967, I find NOLA kinda tiny even though I voted for it
Posted by double negative, Fri Nov-14-14 10:58 AM
am i alone in that?
12649970, Now that I've thought about it, I can't do that bible belt shit
Posted by 8-bit, Fri Nov-14-14 10:59 AM
0/3 for me. Fuck getting felonies for getting caught with weed. Oh, and fuck traffic, too.
12651348, I think the city of new orleans decriminalize weed possession
Posted by bayoubyyou, Sun Nov-16-14 01:32 AM
Don't quote me on that though
12649971, For me, it's definitely New Orleans
Posted by John Forte, Fri Nov-14-14 10:59 AM
I like a dense, urban city, and love the character of the city. I can't fuck with sprawl at all, and Houston is probably the most generic big city in the country.
12649974, I'd lose my mind
Posted by Geah, Fri Nov-14-14 11:00 AM
12649976, What are y'all considering Marylanders these days? Anyway ATL was
Posted by blkprinceMD05, Fri Nov-14-14 11:01 AM
Obviously my choice and still is today. I haven't been to Houston yet but I doubt it's better than the A

New Orleans, I think is cool, but I find it very overrated and feel like a lot of ppl didn't give a fuck about it being "cool" until solange and brad Pitt moved down there and of course they weren't checking for it before Katrina

Atl been popping and popular
12649982, I never visited pre-Katrina NO
Posted by John Forte, Fri Nov-14-14 11:04 AM
but I think people always thought NO was a unique, almost magical city. It's easily one of the most romanticized American cities.
12649980, living in any of the 3 year round sounds like a type of hell to me.
Posted by veritas, Fri Nov-14-14 11:02 AM
12650012, Don't you live in colorada springs? *scoffs*
Posted by blkprinceMD05, Fri Nov-14-14 11:17 AM
12650017, different strokes.
Posted by veritas, Fri Nov-14-14 11:22 AM
12650062, he's white...
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-14-14 11:46 AM
12649994, i spend a lot of time in all 3
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 11:07 AM
live in houston
deal with fuckery from rental units in atl
nawlins is a 4hrs drive from my house

i dont know if nawlins is cool to live in and make a life out of day in day out

schools are all TRASH in nawlins
you MUST go pprivate

in atl/hou there are some decent schools depending upon where you live

i choose houston as texas has no state income tax
and we are 30mins from the water (Kemah) with some of the best seafood you can have
and since we close to nawlins we get truckloads of crawfish too
12649997, I chose Houston just cause I'm familiar with Southwest living
Posted by T Reynolds, Fri Nov-14-14 11:09 AM
AKA a gang of Mexicans

New Orleans is dope but I already drink enough. Seems like the type of town folks drink real heavy (even though NYC ranks up there too)
12650013, Hard to say. I haven't spent enough time in them recently
Posted by Marbles, Fri Nov-14-14 11:18 AM

I haven't been to Atlanta in a long time but I used to love it when I'd go. Unfortunately, one of my recent requirements for a city is that it has to be near a big body of water.

New Orleans is dope too although I'm less sure about living there.

I've never been anywhere in Texas but I'd like to visit. How far is Houston from the coast? And that post yesterday talking about 30 degree weather might knock Houston off any list.
12650016, I'd move out of the country first nm
Posted by afrogirl_lost, Fri Nov-14-14 11:21 AM
12650069, why is your hate for the south so strong?
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 11:48 AM
yet you want to be a african americana studies person/professional
12650095, conditioned?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-14-14 11:56 AM
My fam in Pittsburgh act like it's still 1960 down south....

These same family members live 15 minutes from some of the most racist little small towns outside of Pittsburgh.

when they go down south for a family trip and see a pickup truck with a rebel flag they act shook as shit. All while living 10 minutes from towns with racist white people with pickup trucks who have no problem letting people know they don't fuck with Black people.



12650112, Cause I don't like it. I don't feel the need to explain any further nm
Posted by afrogirl_lost, Fri Nov-14-14 12:03 PM
12650022, Fcuk ATL and all them think they fancy cuz they got a c class benz,
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Nov-14-14 11:27 AM
think they "classy" because they went to the AUC and act like reality TV show stars BAMMAS.

I could make a whole separate post going in on ATL.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/
12650045, Please make that post
Posted by John Forte, Fri Nov-14-14 11:40 AM
12650078, Imma save it until after my trial, when I got time to work it.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Nov-14-14 11:50 AM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/
12650050, ATL has some of the tackiest, most vapid black people alive
Posted by afrogirl_lost, Fri Nov-14-14 11:41 AM
from the basketball wife types all the way to the extreme bohos. smh.
12650052, I know a black doctor in ATL who's dying to get on a reality show
Posted by John Forte, Fri Nov-14-14 11:43 AM
12650080, EVERY person I know from ATL acts like there are cameras following them.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Nov-14-14 11:51 AM

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/
12650483, how many people do you know from ATL?
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-14-14 03:19 PM
12650807, ATL is a very self absorbed city, but then again it wouldnt
Posted by Peabody, Fri Nov-14-14 11:33 PM
be what it is if it wasn't (Black Hollywood). gotta take the good with the bad. its a beautiful city though with a lot of cool people and scenes going on. but yeah the ratchetness is part of the beauty imo #slumbeautiful
12650076, I sure hope y'all don't think everyone is ATL is like that? That would be
Posted by blkprinceMD05, Fri Nov-14-14 11:50 AM
As stupid as thinking that every man in Philly had a thick beard and said yerp

ATL is way more than y'all silly stereotypes.
12650083, I don't disagree with you about that Philly observation though.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Nov-14-14 11:53 AM
>As stupid as thinking that every man in Philly had a thick
>beard and said yerp


You can also throw in Former Spoken Word Poet/Neo Soul Artist and penciled in hairline.

You cool though blackprince, present company excluded of course.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/
12650085, Right? These niggas sound ignorant as hell.
Posted by The Wordsmith, Fri Nov-14-14 11:53 AM

Since 1976
12650086, lol, not "every," but it's true for about 75% of black men aged 18-50
Posted by 8-bit, Fri Nov-14-14 11:53 AM
>As stupid as thinking that every man in Philly had a thick
>beard and said yerp
12650105, these people sound like fucking idiots...
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-14-14 12:00 PM
I think these reality shows have people all fucked up on what ATL is like.

When I go I have a great time but then again I never bought into the Southern stereotypes and spent half my life down here.

people in ATL are no more annoying than NYC "nah mean" niggas or shady Philly/Jersey niggas
12650121, We're just talking trash nm
Posted by afrogirl_lost, Fri Nov-14-14 12:05 PM
12650165, I kno I kno y'all good, happy Friday.
Posted by blkprinceMD05, Fri Nov-14-14 12:17 PM
12650222, <------ thick beard. says yerp. its kinda true. nm.
Posted by MrThomas43423, Fri Nov-14-14 12:46 PM

---------------------------------------
it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.
12650233, Um sayin'. talk about ignorance.
Posted by abby, Fri Nov-14-14 12:55 PM
and the ironic part is that the people they are describing are not true ATLiens, but transplants.
12650091, Sure. And New York is all Tony Sopranos, Puerto Ricans
Posted by yeahthat, Fri Nov-14-14 11:55 AM
And Ay-raab bodegas.

There is nothing else to New York.

Only Manhattan exists, too.

That is about as accurate as you paint Atlanta. Which makes sense because someone lie you couldn't possibly have access to the real Atlanta.

For that you need to know people who matter beyond their financi plan.
12650122, Yall ATL people stay judging New Yorkers by
Posted by T Reynolds, Fri Nov-14-14 12:05 PM
"Those loud ass New Yorkers that come to ATL and can't stop talking about NYC"

This road goes both directions
12650136, and half them niggas from Yonkers
Posted by John Forte, Fri Nov-14-14 12:09 PM
A full 50% of "NYers" I met in the army couldn't tell me shit about the city.
12650154, 100% true
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-14-14 12:14 PM
but shit ain't that serious.
12650275, Tony Sopranos is New Jersey. Now beat it and get back to that mimosa
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Nov-14-14 01:11 PM
brunch you were planning for this weekend.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/
12650201, oh...u tryna fade about it tho?
Posted by Ralo13, Fri Nov-14-14 12:31 PM
jk

ima let yall fuck niggas cook

and I say that with love, king
12650270, And F' Yall 5 bedroom mini-mansion you pay $600 a month for.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Fri Nov-14-14 01:10 PM
That just the level yall got to stoop to trick people to move there.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/
12650300, meanwhile, yall niggas pay 2k a month to stay in a walk in closet
Posted by Ralo13, Fri Nov-14-14 01:25 PM
and we talkin Atlanta, the city

you seem to be referring to the outskirts

thats the problem...niggas move from Queensbridge to
Stockbridge and stay hollerin Atlanta wack lol
12650563, That's y'all fault tho. Y'all let folks not in the city claim the city
Posted by 8-bit, Fri Nov-14-14 04:15 PM
I still don't understand the logic of being 15 miles out from Atlanta, but still saying they live in Atlanta. Especially since it causes the kind of confusion that it does. I guess claiming "ATL" sounds a whole lot cooler than "Decatur" (pop. 20k)
12650805, :flips weave:
Posted by SimplyHannah, Fri Nov-14-14 11:20 PM
12651241, and i can't be around no bammas
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Sat Nov-15-14 08:26 PM
just can't.

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"There is much temptation to use what has worked before,
even when it may exceed its effective scope."

"Roll me further bitch"
12650120, Well, since I'm a southerner and have lived in 2 of the three cities
Posted by vee-lover, Fri Nov-14-14 12:05 PM
you have listed and seriously pondering moving to the other one after a recent visit, I'd say Atlanta is still the best city in the south to live in

Houston seems really really nice but to be fair don't know enough abt it

but

I am surprised NO is leading this poll question

I couldn't disagree more - NO of course has some attractive features to it (food/music) but unless you have money this is far from the best place to live in

The French Quarter is great and all but after awhile it gets old too after you've lived here

The blk folx here are hurting worse than any other (southern) city I've lived in or been to...there are no jobs other than service related jobs mostly in the French Quarter...the educational system is hortible and consequently that has factored into a lot of the ignorance and backwardness you see amongst the poor blk ppl
12650138, yeah NO is aight, but i wouldn't go there over any of these other ones
Posted by hardware, Fri Nov-14-14 12:09 PM
at least in Houston or ATL you have mobility
12650182, Basically all this. Besides uptown New Orleans there isn't much I like
Posted by blkprinceMD05, Fri Nov-14-14 12:22 PM
About that city, I dont find it all that nice. Some of the people are great ( a good number very shady tho) and the food is great and the drinking/party culture is fun as a visitor but erra yeah. Not my cup, I'll just say
12650135, I'll submit a write-in vote for Austin
Posted by Eric B Is Prez, Fri Nov-14-14 12:08 PM
if that counts
12650139, thats awfully white of you
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 12:09 PM
.
12650157, RE: thats awfully white of you
Posted by Eric B Is Prez, Fri Nov-14-14 12:15 PM
What, ordering something not on the menu, or Austin?
12650175, lol
Posted by T Reynolds, Fri Nov-14-14 12:20 PM
12650219, lol
Posted by luvlee2003, Fri Nov-14-14 12:45 PM
12650316, lol
Posted by deejboram, Fri Nov-14-14 01:39 PM
.
12651294, +1
Posted by IkeMoses, Sat Nov-15-14 10:31 PM
12670050, lulz
Posted by luminous, Tue Dec-09-14 09:39 AM
12650171, charlotte
Posted by JohnnyKilroy, Fri Nov-14-14 12:20 PM

IG: hibelk
12650211, I've heard some good (and not so good to be fair) things abt Charlotte
Posted by vee-lover, Fri Nov-14-14 12:36 PM
Only been there for a quick stop

But I got some friends who lived there and they seem to like it

I read that they call Charlotte "little Atlanta"

I wanna check it out tho
12650215, They've been calling Charlotte that since the 90s...
Posted by Marbles, Fri Nov-14-14 12:40 PM

I finally got to check Charlotte out around 2001 and was underwhelmed. To be fair, all of the comparisons to Atlanta probably got my expectations way up. But Charlotte was a little bit slower than I expected.

I imagine things might have changed within the last 13+ years though.
12650500, I like where Charlotte is headed...
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-14-14 03:26 PM
I wish it had more lounges and chill spots but at the same time it's not that big of a deal because I don't run the streets like I used to.

12650768, I wouldn't live anywhere in North Carolina
Posted by Goldmind, Fri Nov-14-14 09:10 PM
It has failed to live up to its promise and has only become more conservative over the years.

12650876, what promise?
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Nov-15-14 08:05 AM
They definitely fucked up teachers pay but its not like they are hosing Blacks and Gays down with water.

I'm always amused by people who write off a whole state after an election or conservative law is passed.
12651207, in NC's case, it really has gone off the rails
Posted by Dr Claw, Sat Nov-15-14 07:23 PM
>I'm always amused by people who write off a whole state after
>an election or conservative law is passed.

and it's not just one election.
I expect the kind of fuckery that's going on over there in SOUTH Carolina, but since McCrony took over there it's been non-stop contempt of the people who live there from the powers that be....
12651791, The promise of not being an overlooked, conservative-run snoozefest
Posted by Goldmind, Sun Nov-16-14 07:14 PM
I hoped that a state that has touted "North Carolina exceptionalism" would become, hmm I dunno, exceptional -- at least compared to other states in the South. That hasn't been the case, especially for Blacks, women, or LGBT people.

I knew that North Carolina was generally broke, boring, Churchy as all hell, and plagued with identity issues when I was going to college there, but it has only become more conservative over the years (at least in all sectors of its government), and none of its biggest cities, as far as I can tell, have become more interesting. Culturally, I don't think it's a great place to live if you aren't as obsessed with Church as everyone else is.

Charlotte, its most promising city, was surprisingly slow when I went. Why live there when I could live in Atlanta? What is exceptional about Charlotte and other places in North Carolina?


12670015, your first problem was believing it was on par with ATL
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Dec-09-14 08:58 AM


Why would you believe that bullshit? LOL...

That isn't Charlotte's fault that's your fault for believing the hype.

Charlotte is a 2nd tier city like Nashville, Louisville, Cincinnati.. but what makes Charlotte different is the growth. No city in the US with at least 500K has grown as fast as Charlotte over the last 10 years.

As far as church and conservatives go.. talk about a lazy critique of southern city? why not throw in a Nascar and Civil War diss as well?

GA is a more conservative state than NC. North Carolina is purple as fuck and Charlotte is Blue as hell. Sure, the state congress is conservative right now but it doesn't effect you day to day operations.

You make it sound like Charlotte is in a dry county and the sheriff said no dancing. GTFOH.. your criticism sounds a little personal.
12670223, Uh, I never believed it was on par with Atlanta.
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Dec-09-14 11:48 AM
Hence why I'd choose Atlanta over Charlotte.

>Why would you believe that bullshit? LOL...

I didn't believe that Charlotte was the next anything, but a lot of people in North Carolina did. I think the state has suffered from an identity crisis in general.

>As far as church and conservatives go.. talk about a lazy
>critique of southern city? why not throw in a Nascar and Civil
>War diss as well?

I'm a need you to keep up. It wasn't a critique of a specific city, it was a critique of the state in general. Georgia is too conservative and churchy, too. But unlike Georgia, North Carolina doesn't have a city that I'd want to live in.

>GA is a more conservative state than NC. North Carolina is
>purple as fuck and Charlotte is Blue as hell. Sure, the state
>congress is conservative right now but it doesn't effect you
>day to day operations.

It seemed to me that ATL was more insulated from GA's conservative culture than Charlotte was insulated from North Carolina's, but maybe that has changed. I will pray for Charlotte's continued evolution.

>You make it sound like Charlotte is in a dry county and the
>sheriff said no dancing. GTFOH.. your criticism sounds a
>little personal.

Dry or not, Charlotte did feel slow and, at least culturally, unexceptional. Your responses to me are way more personal than anything I've stated. Perhaps living in Charlotte has made you insecure.
12670025, nvrmind.. you gay, ATL is like the Garden of Eden for a Black Man
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Dec-09-14 09:17 AM
12670228, Sho nuff. NC is gay as hell, too. But...Zzzzzzz
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Dec-09-14 11:51 AM

12669971, Charlotte
Posted by Dj Joey Joe, Tue Dec-09-14 03:19 AM
I'm trying to move to Charlotte in the next few years, tired of this dump called Columbia, SC, this place is hell & backwards as fuck and going further down the drain unless you're white & love Gamecocks, it's full of wanna-be's and keeping up with the Joneses when the Joneses are in the same piss pot as you are.

ATL is cool but it's done and overrated, it blew up after the Olympics and everyone is nothing but hustling in circles, but only the people who already hustled and made it elsewhere will make it there; traffic is stupid crazy, and the rest of GA is nothing but country & woods like SC, don't know why people think the entire state is what GA is, just like people who think the state of NY is similar to NYC, NOPE!


12670016, you better hurry up. Charlotte is red hot and rent is rising.
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Dec-09-14 09:00 AM
12670012, RE: charlotte.........well, it depends...
Posted by tully_blanchard, Tue Dec-09-14 08:41 AM
If you're looking for anything to do...and I mean ANYTHING..you're out of luck.

It's extremely clique-ish..and thats for everything.

You want to get on Djing somewhere? You better know somebody
You want to put your art up/have an art show? You better know somebody

You just want to find out where "the cool kids go"? You better know somebody


And even then, theres not much variety in what there is to do. You can go to this bar.....or that bar....or that one over there.


You like listening to hip-hop in a public setting? Theres ONE venue for that.

You wanna just chill with your lady in a lounge-type environment? Good luck..

And dont get me started on the "public transportation". Its pointless..friggin pointless.

You want to find a good sports bar to have good sports conversation? Forget it. Most fans at the Panthers game dont know that youre supposed to be the hell quiet when we have the ball...but donr worry about that lasting all game...they leave before the third quarter is over.

You dig music festivals? Well then, you're in luck! The annual Speed Street Festival should do you right! Three days of Coors light drinkin' NASCAR fans invade the city to hear the likes of Trace Adkins, Three Doors Down and whoever else is the new "hot country act". The "Black Night" is on Thursday...the first night of the festival. Headliners in years past have included Jon B, Midnight Starr, and last year it was a Michael Jackson cover band.

Wanna take the kids out? Lets see...you got....Discovery Place...uhh...the new jawn down the street from there...uhh..oh! The Nature Museum, where they still have the owls and snakes that were there when I was elementary school.

You dont go to church on the regular? Prepare to NOT fit in with your co-workers.

I LOVE my friends and family in Charlotte...but I would never, ever move back. For those who havent been in a while, nothings changed.






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12670023, I saw Morris Day and the Time at Speed Street
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Dec-09-14 09:14 AM
I missed SWV last year.

Speed Street crowd is definitely pwt but the Charlotte Taste crowd is on point.

Sports bars? Shiiiiet. This is the one area where Charlotte is on point. Hickory Tavern in University is like a club.

Nightlife you have Music Factory, Stache House is a nice lounge but the crowd is too young. Hipsters can hit up the Common Market in Plaza or South End.

You have Crave for hookah's and a nice mixed crowd and on the other side of the building is the club 5th Element. I don't do clubs these days but I went in there once and it was packed with Black people.

I agree this city is mostly bars and needs more lounge spots but honestly, I prefer bars over clubs so it's cool with me.

On College Street you have Phoenix, ReBar and Cosmos (their Salsa night got dimes bruh).

I wouldn't move here if I was in my 20's and wanted a city to entertain me but I'm married. All I know is everytime someone comes from ATL looking for entertainment they have been impressed with what I have to show them given Charlotte's size.
12670033, RE: I saw Morris Day and the Time at Speed Street
Posted by tully_blanchard, Tue Dec-09-14 09:24 AM
>I missed SWV last year.

Other than The Time, who really gives a ^^@%?


>Speed Street crowd is definitely pwt but the Charlotte Taste
>crowd is on point.
>
>Sports bars? Shiiiiet. This is the one area where Charlotte is
>on point. Hickory Tavern in University is like a club.
>
>Nightlife you have Music Factory, Stache House is a nice
>lounge but the crowd is too young. Hipsters can hit up the
>Common Market in Plaza or South End.


Music Factory? You might as well said Epicenter.

Common Market? I'll never understand why "us folk" still support CM, given their racist behaviour.



>
>You have Crave for hookah's and a nice mixed crowd and on the
>other side of the building is the club 5th Element. I don't do
>clubs these days but I went in there once and it was packed
>with Black people.
>
>I agree this city is mostly bars and needs more lounge spots
>but honestly, I prefer bars over clubs so it's cool with me.
>
>On College Street you have Phoenix, ReBar and Cosmos (their
>Salsa night got dimes bruh).
>
>I wouldn't move here if I was in my 20's and wanted a city to
>entertain me but I'm married. All I know is everytime someone
>comes from ATL looking for entertainment they have been
>impressed with what I have to show them given Charlotte's
>size.
>

Impressed...more like surprised, lol. Take away "The CI' " and theres nothing.

The sad part about the spots you did name...the lounges in particular, they prolly wont be there 2 years from now.


Soul Gastro...the coolest spot in Charlotte...


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12670074, I fuck with Soul Gastro...
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Dec-09-14 10:11 AM
I don't have enough info on Common Market to call it racist.

I just buy the beer and drink it while chilling for a few.

I don't really fuck with CIAA like that because the prices are fucking insane.

12650173, New Orleans, Nashville, Louisville, Charleston, RDU are still livable
Posted by B9, Fri Nov-14-14 12:20 PM
As a non-southerner living in Atlanta for as long as I have now to consider my self as close to an Atlantan as I'll likely get, we are quickly becoming as unlivable as Houston in terms of sprawl, congestion and quickly losing our identity. In terms of "why did I come down here", it was for weather and slower pace of life. That version of Atlanta is packing it's bags and getting it's mail forwarded as we speak.
12650191, Louisville is underrated...
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-14-14 12:27 PM
I didn't spend that much time there but I loved the vibe the few times I was there.

12650204, I've heard that a lot. Gotta check it out
Posted by John Forte, Fri Nov-14-14 12:32 PM
12650253, RE: New Orleans, Nashville, Louisville, Charleston, RDU are still livable
Posted by boyd, Fri Nov-14-14 01:04 PM
Nashville, Louisville, Charleston

these are so underrated
12650205, new orleans?aint it stll all torn up from katrina?
Posted by Ezzsential, Fri Nov-14-14 12:33 PM

i dont have colors
my mmsic:
www.soundclick.com/sylana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brb8g8f18xE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgNuVHrEKI
12650218, RE: the 9th Ward is just sad
Posted by vee-lover, Fri Nov-14-14 12:42 PM
>
>i dont have colors
>my mmsic:
>www.soundclick.com/sylana
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brb8g8f18xE
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgNuVHrEKI
12650207, i felt very comfortable in New Orleans
Posted by Government Name, Fri Nov-14-14 12:33 PM
12650209, NOLA
Posted by Chanson, Fri Nov-14-14 12:35 PM
I love the food, drank and culture. Very unique city.
12650257, Frr all you Folks Living in the DMV, you are Southern! Get that right.
Posted by Case_One, Fri Nov-14-14 01:05 PM
Below the Mason Dixon Line is the SOUTH! Bamas!

ROTFL

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"In God's Kingdom, your greatness isn't measured by how much you gain and keep. No, true Kingdom greatness is measured by how much you give way."
12650469, but not the Waffle House line
Posted by MiracleRic, Fri Nov-14-14 03:14 PM
12650505, The Waffle House line is Deeeeep South!
Posted by Case_One, Fri Nov-14-14 03:29 PM

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"In God's Kingdom, your greatness isn't measured by how much you gain and keep. No, true Kingdom greatness is measured by how much you give way."
12650347, Htown, NO and I wouldn't live in atl nm
Posted by Binlahab, Fri Nov-14-14 02:00 PM
12650432, I live in Atlanta and the only other southern cities I'd consider
Posted by bigkarma, Fri Nov-14-14 02:49 PM
are Tampa and Charlotte

Maybe Charleston or Tybee Island, if I could live on the beach.
12650487, Yah I'd live in Charlotte before Nola easily
Posted by blkprinceMD05, Fri Nov-14-14 03:21 PM
12650512, personally I would choose either Natchitoches, LA or Oxford, MS!
Posted by homer_pimpson225, Fri Nov-14-14 03:33 PM
Growing up, I used to spend summers with my cousins in N.O. and from the early to the late 80s, growing up in N.O. was fuckin awesome. Now, I'm like Bugs Bunny - it's a lovely place to visit but I wouldn't wanna live there.
12670032, Man, I haven't been to Natchitoches in 20+ yrs. I'd like to take my kids to
Posted by placee_22, Tue Dec-09-14 09:24 AM
the Christmas festival up there tho... and get a meat pie.
12650698, When the fuk did NO get on the hipster/scenester/artsy douchbag map?
Posted by SeV, Fri Nov-14-14 06:33 PM
That shyt is comical




but im banned tho.
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12670027, N.O. always been on some othershit since its inception
Posted by placee_22, Tue Dec-09-14 09:20 AM
so it's really nothing new other than all the available media now.

The recovery was low hanging fruit for every blogger, douchey online magazine, etc to cover, so you have more media attn now. Otherwise, same as it ever was.
12650699, Austin or Houston
Posted by Kira, Fri Nov-14-14 06:34 PM
Austin has Beckys and Yoga. Houston has everything else. I don't know which one to choose but I'd go with Austin first as I need time to readjust to life after my situation. Fuck around and step wrong in Houston to the right person by accident..........
12650816, Nashville beats all of them.
Posted by BennyTenStack, Fri Nov-14-14 11:51 PM
12650874, been to Nashville twice and I had fun both times.
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Nov-15-14 08:01 AM
12651070, i'd go with NO and i've never even been there
Posted by gumz, Sat Nov-15-14 03:29 PM
ATL is a dope city and not too far out so there's def some pros there but if i had to pick one on a whim i'd say NO. David Simon done conditioned my conditioning.
12651077, This post has everything 1. ppl claiming houston aint southern
Posted by deejboram, Sat Nov-15-14 03:34 PM
2. white ppl choosing cities that aint even listed as choices
3. folks go way off board talkin about god and Bluppies.
12651154, I guess ATL....
Posted by Dr Claw, Sat Nov-15-14 05:54 PM
... if only because I would know some people there/have family there

and honestly I'd rather go to Charlotte for that

but to put me back in the South (as a resident) is going to take an Act of God
12651244, i keep hearing good things about dallas
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Sat Nov-15-14 08:34 PM
a random lady recently visited there and said jobs are plentiful
down that bitch. also someone at my job anonymously sent me a dallas
map and tourist info too...hope to check it out soon.

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12651248, NOLA. No question.
Posted by IkeMoses, Sat Nov-15-14 08:44 PM
12651293, Im tryna get to Houston or Nashville from DMV
Posted by Laz aka Black Native, Sat Nov-15-14 10:30 PM
I dig Nashville, haven't been to H-Town but my fave cuzzo lives there & he wants me to check it owt
12651349, I'm southern and I don't want to live in any of those places
Posted by bayoubyyou, Sun Nov-16-14 01:36 AM


I'd pick New Orleans then Houston.
12670029, lol, that was my answer too...and I live in one of those places
Posted by placee_22, Tue Dec-09-14 09:21 AM
12651875, I am in love with New Orleans...but I guess ATL would be more practical
Posted by Goldmind, Sun Nov-16-14 09:14 PM
New Orleans is one of the most interesting cities I've ever set foot in. I get so inspired every time I visit, and I imagine myself making a life there.

But where the hell would I work?? I don't think there are any jobs for me. Meanwhile, Atlanta has more of a global economy. And, of course, it's one of the best places in the world to be Black and gay.

Houston seems ok...but I don't like the idea of living in Texas lol. The sprawl of Houston really turns me off. And I don't think anyone from the Northeast would ever visit me.

12670018, Charlotte, NC
Posted by Fishgrease, Tue Dec-09-14 09:05 AM
12670024, yep, although Goldmind has a good point.
Posted by placee_22, Tue Dec-09-14 09:15 AM
12670102, If you are a teacher or gay, than I would suggest ATL
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Dec-09-14 10:20 AM
if you are neither of those things I would still pick ATL over Charlotte. The only reason I won't move to ATL is because it's too spread out. I hate driving in ATL.
12670022, I just want to point out that I HATE the term NOLA
Posted by placee_22, Tue Dec-09-14 09:14 AM
especially in it's spoken form. Fuck that shit all the way.

12670040, I'd die. But if I lack the courage to off myself I'd choose ATL.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Dec-09-14 09:31 AM
12670086, based on climate alone, ATL. and i LOVE houston.
Posted by Kevin26_2, Tue Dec-09-14 10:14 AM
its just way too spread out, hot, and humid for me to find it as liveable.