Leaked video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHFsciJcR1k

Poll question: Bobby Shmurda the day he signed to Epic Records

Poll result (18 votes) The kid is just excited for the opportunity of a lifetime (1 votes) Vote Too close to shuck and jive cooning (17 votes) Vote

I laughed at most of it, especially when he jumped on the table. And you can tell the audience was judging the FUCK outta him the while time.

Hope he's saving money and/or following 50's example.

i got the shit on mute cuz i'm listening to music

watched/listened off mute. apparently he WAS performing and i honestly don't get why people's souls are cringing or whatever.

that lil dude was literally just jumping around just now :-/


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he's not really rapping but he's dancing and acting the shit out
some of the verses being played are actually rowdy rebel rapping and not him.
but yea i don't see the issue *shrug*

i couldn't make it through the whole thing.

no difference here.

how can you cringe at this, but rock-out with no abandon every other time?

like when they're listening to the record an artist handed in or whatever...dont they basically perform the songs to board rooms? 'least that's how i thought it went down. he's just doing what he would do on stage. would be weird if he was just sitting there listening to it with them.

they're all definitely seated in a way that suggests they asked him to perform
he got on the table big fucking deal

you're trying to sell yourself to a bunch of assholes who are going to have to spend cash/actually give a fuck who you are or else you end up in the major label graveyard where too many dope artists reside.

GA-RUN-TEE there's been artists who've done MUCH worse trying to win record label exec's over. There's been so many infamous stories outside of rap; rock etc...of the shenanigans they pull trying to get signed and impress motherfuckers.

- "ignorant" kid gets famous off of Vine

- signed arguably because he dances, not for his musical talent

- leaked video after his buzz has probably maxed out, with him doing even more animated dancing to prove his worth to fitewolks

it's part of being in the music industry. if he was playing acoustic guitar and singing would it still be cooning? this is what he does. he raps and dances.

I'm talking about execs lol

This is why I like making music I'd be proud of and not sell my soul to get a deal.

This is also why I'm not signed yet.
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I mean, there's a story of L.A. Reid having Usher perform for the label, and he brought all of the women that worked there into the board room to watch him.

Still..........

I couldn't watch that.

which is pretty normal

for me it was more about looking at their reactions

you could tell most were silently judging him

for me it was a visual of how much the major labels no longer care about the actual music

execs only care about the money...

if they cared about the music we would see more live acts and more sangers instead of lip syncing

audience... these white ppls aint gonna be ridin around pumpin bobby shmurda in the ride. they applaudin this nigga because they think he gonna make them some bread, which remains to be seen. but to hear all the n-word and gun raps bein thrown around in front of THIS group of ppl is whats bugged out...its like a visualization of the pimp game.

>its like a visualization of the pimp game.

that him and chief kief created a collective and put out their sh*t independently

even if i am not a fan of the music

the tools are out there to do it now

Young to know that. I'm more sad at the adults making excuses.

it's not so much the way he's behaving, nothing wrong with that.
it's that the people around him clearly had no actual enthusiasm/interest in him as a performer/artist.
(not entirely accurate, since he got signed...but you can tell they didn't FEEL him)
it makes the whole thing just look embarrassing for everyone involved.

he is just a commodity to them and very happy to be one.

all your favorite rappers/singers/rockers...etc are doing the same thing to get those major label checks

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they couldn't find an instrumental and a mic for homie to rock that shit live?

>they couldn't find an instrumental and a mic for homie to
>rock that shit live?

I saw at least a half dozen different hip-hop acts in the last few weeks, not one were rapping over instrumentals.

and like...this is the record label's office. if they couldn't cue up a promotional/instrumental edit of that track then can't nobody do it.

damn.

record labels ain't shit.

Am I too black? Am I not black enough? Am I being too black around white people? Am I not being black enough around white people? Are these white people viewing my blackness as a novelty? Am I embracing these white people viewing my blackness as a novelty because I'm getting paid for it? Does that make me less black? Am I a sellout?

All of these questions would make it hard as fuck to get out of bed day in and day out, and that's without consideration of systemic racism, police brutality, pay gaps, and the myriad of other concerns.

whatsoever.

Even still, maybe that's a racist sentiment. So it goes.

J/K

i saw no racism, just comedy. and truth.

+ for all the reasons you've mentioned

esp. when you look back at all the shit folks (relatives / community) before you have been able to endure and accomplish in spite of it all.

you don't have to look very far for strength. at all.

but i feel u. white privilege do be workin'.

would be nice to see the cops & tip my hat instead of hyperventilating.

deals with these questions. most black people could give a shit less about how their 'blackness' may or may not offend others. that makes a lot of blacks within that
'certain section' uncomfortable at times.

thanks, i didn't really consider that as much as i should have.

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but I've been made to feel "black" maybe once or twice a year (being stopped by police for jaywalking/random white woman at SXSW asking if I was selling weed)

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See: Rock music, the light bulb, the cotton gin, the phonetic alphabet, etc

If they can't claim it, it's deemed evil or the blame for ills of the world until they CAN claim it
(refer to the White Citizens Council's warning to stay away from rock music and your own sig, even).

Get paid off his ass and drop him like they did the rest.

gets very similar treatment.

and the people in the room have about the same level of bored dismissiveness.

from my knowledge of the entertainment business (and by that i mean watching entourage) i imagine just about all of them have work they'd rather be doing, but have to be in that room to put on a show for the flavor of the day client signing.

i'm not saying the people in that room aren't racist exploitationists, but i don't think this video alone is very good evidence of that.

in the same situation, is that her content does not explicitly denigrate white culture, or make light of real/serious issues that affect lives in the white community.

not saying you're wrong, just saying there are layers to this shit where (some) black entertainers are involved.

the difference is we carry baggage that makes us view their reaction to Shmurda through a different lens than we'd view their reaction to a similarly-situated white act.

the crack epidemic didn't affect the white community, by and large,
so a white starlet singing about crack selling (fictional or otherwise) doesn't hit home in the same ways.

so you agree - we'd view a similarly-situated white pop act (one who rose to stardom via Vine while displaying questionable talent and is clearly to be marketed as a flash-in-the-pan to take advantage of a current fad in popular music) differently b/c of what we bring w/us to the viewing (knowledge about the happenings in our community and hand-wringing about entertainment's impact on it).

to where at least some substantial segment of "the black community" finds that Bobby Shmurda (and most black entertainers at large) trade on "the black experience" and take advantage of (if not exploit) that experience, and in doing so obligate themselves to a certain standard for that experience?

Is that too simplistic?

I'm asking all this stuff in earnest, I find the differences in the pressures black entertainers face from white people/black people confusing and fascinating.

based on popular culture/radio, the vast majority of black people DON'T seem to care about this. but your larger point stands, yeah.

if black people as a whole cared about holding the radio accountable for its depiction of the black experience, pop music wouldn't be what it is today.
but that's another post for another bitter old man.

There's really nothing for u to gain in arguing this on here.




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2) kanye has always exercised control over his own career and made his feelings clear on corporate interests clashing with his art

2) How much control does he have when he is very vocal about white elites keeping him out of spaces he wishes to be a participant in??

3) Did Kanye dance & rap on a table in front of whites & was he called a coon for it?...This was years ago so my recollection could be off.

you cant wear a doorag to work, get reprimanded and blame it on respectability politics. there's a way we have to conduct ourselves to get ahead in this society, but I digress

as for Kanye, his dancing on tables was a part of his "passionate" character. there's a difference between that and an Amos & Andy routine

but he was also rapping lyrics to "I am a God" and "New Slaves"

lil different but it's not that serious.

All these rappers have to "perform" for execs and if the music is shitty (to us) we will scream coon train.

>All these rappers have to "perform" for execs and if the music
>is shitty (to us) we will scream coon train.

Take Stalley for example, I havent heard a song of his that's blown me away. he could get on a conference table doing his thing and it wouldnt be near cooning

it's very much a kid (him being dark doesnt help matters) dancing for white people's affection that people find troubling, if you dont get it then so be it

you wouldn't have a problem...

it's the song...

singers and dancers... well, they tend to.... you know, sing and dance.

Try again

It's typical to do performances.. all the time..

Label

Print

MTV

Your often in an office "selling your wares"

If he was selling a fucking "foreman grill" he'd be doing the same thing. If he had a guitar and talent you wouldn't be saying this.. That said... someone needs to get a hold of this kid and give him a safer hit or drop him

I hate playing his record out btw... such a cringeworthy tune for multicultural hip hop crowds..

I was at mostly older Black and Latino spot a while ago in Hollywood and "it fit", but I could def see that record being mad awkward in a multirace (read mostly white crowd)

by the way where do you spin in LA bro (and what do you spin)

Lock & Key.. The Virgil.. No Vacancy.. smaller shit that turns up llke the bigger clubs but more bar-ish.. cooler college vibes I guess

it is mad awkward to play any record that says nigga that much amongst any majority non black crowd.

The other werid thing is .. its not like a "hit song" with memorable parts.. people basically awkwardly dance until the "lopped vine" drops then they go crazy then they are done..

I might make a like 1.5 min version of it.. starting closer to that part

Probably so. Glad I didn't have to witness it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZI_aEalijE

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The performer going all out for a dead audience.

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Funny my cousin managed an artist that he got signed to you guessed it Epic records back in the late 90s. He told me about how much he got into the performance in this conference room and hopped on the table. He got signed but got dropped before he ever put out an album. Wonder if there's any correlation...

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Hilarious!

Dude, I have been looking for that gif forever!

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the whole setup is too bizarre.
i am sure they did not set out to do a step and fetch routine.
but i'll be damned if that did not come off coony.

if he threw a watermelon slice in the air and caught it with his mouth, it would flow with the energy in that room.

at least hand him a mic and let him pretend he's doing something.
eff it, hand him a hair brush or a bottle of water. anything to make it real.

p.s. the boardroom looks a little low budget too.

i mean, i can't stop laughin at how ridiculous the "performance is"

Something about a black man embarrassing themselves infront of whites makes us feel some type of way. If we changed up any of the variables, we wouldn't care. If it was a Hispanic rapper, so what. If the group of people were black, we wouldn't care.

Why cant we shrug our shoulders to this?

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'cause some of us know they ain't looking for the next D'angelo or Erykah - they looking to promote........sad diminishing returns of past caricatures

I thought this was gonna be way worse from reading the replies


Just looks like a teenager doing his high school lunch period performance

And ppl sitting around the table acting oblivious/disconnected/like bloodsuckers, which is not unlike the reactions I see in fitewolks in general


My blackness is not impacted in any way by a Bobby shmurda conf room audition





But in general I don't claim foolishness anyway.
I celebrate "our" wins
But if u fail, that's on u. No such thing as 1 person's actions "making us look bad"
Even though charles Barkley goes out of his way to try and make it happen

1) it will be interesting to see if this video ever finds it's way to WSHH as some of the people who decide what gets posted on WSHH and what doesn't are in that room.

2) i highly suspect this video's original upload will be pulled with-in the next 72 hours.

3) bobby schmurda won't be signed to epic as soon as 2016.

this is also what happens when people hear years of.. yo he "JUMPED ON THE TABLE" then everyone loved him..

Like he was somehow thinking that if he just put effort into lip syncing that he could somehow connect his "star power" over his murder "kill-a-nigga" raps

People gotta realize when Kanye did that shit... he had JESUS WALKS!!

i would have advised him to perform a song OTHER than "hot nigga".

between the lip-syncing/dancing/performing of his one hit that was popular LAST QUARTER - i would hope that some of the people in that room were smart enough to have buyers remorse.

congratulations, you just signed an act that doesn't have half the following/material/cachet of chief keef (who was a major label failure and was dropped from his deal the very day this video was uploaded).

after hot nigga goes off he performs rowdy rebel's 'computers' on which he has a feature
but he lip syncs rowdy rebels verses as well

they're already looking at him like a one hit wonder.

the fact the other song he performed wasn't even his song is just pathetic.

i wonder if his "deal" is only for a 14 day pay period or something.

hopefully once the clock runs out everyone will calm down.

Souljah boy had one record when he did his deal as well... yes it was WAY more accessible (also arguably way more subversive) as pop songs go.. but it was one..

He was able to get in there and make souljah girl for radio and donk for the hood...

Shmurda''s success is gonna be based on whether Sha money can find a hit to plug verses in...

Would be crazy if they got Meghan trainor to give him one.. (she isnt ruining her rep like that tho)

Soujah signed to certified hit makers when he did his deal... mr collipark.. 3h (a&r) was coming off daddy yankee.. and polow da don gave him one...

thats the kinda help he needs

im not saying bobby shmurda cant find a way to survive
but i don't see him being everywhere like he is right now for long
and i actually like hot nigga
rowdy rebel might be the one to save them
but i dont see bobby shmurda doing superman numbers
hes already complaining about money his second single bobby bitch
isnt catching
at most he will go the way of uncle murda
signed yet relegated to putting out mixtapes.
soulja boy had like 3 songs popping without a label
before super man hit.
i wouldnt compare the two
both youtube sensations but one went viral off one vid
while another had built up an audience for a few years then
blew up.

Agreed..

Yall acting like he's at the Apollo or something lol

I always assumed that stuff like this happened all the time at record labels. It's that whole "don't act up in front of white people" thing again I guess

I dont like the music but this is what rappers do for majors

everything he did in that boardroom we have all seen him do already lol

Obama has to do something about this.

dude is about to get rich of the fact that he wasn't too cool to bust out the old uncle dance in a moment of joy.

He wasn't doing anything in that room he wouldn't do in front of his boys.
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Some of us hate ALL this mainstream stuff they push and market to our children,
but there are those of us who think it's ok as long as it's not in front of nicely dresssed
white folks.

Either it's some bullshit or it's not.

If you're accepting of it, at all, then be fully accepting of it. If it's bullshit in front of white folks,
then it's bullshit all the time, no?
For instance, I say things about how white supremacy functions as system in america,
and alotta folks don't want me to say this in front of white people, because it makes them
uncomfortable. But to hell with that, because it's the truth. It's something I believe in,
and facts that I stand on.

However, you look at the themes in this music, and ask yourself if these are themes
that you wish to stand by. Should we be standing by the will to talk about destroying
ourselves, our communities, devaluing ourselves and our women, etc?
THIS is why it's considered cooning, and it's cooning whether he does it for us or for white folks.
The real problem is that some of yall are fine with this in any space at all.
And miss me with that "it's fiction" crap, because like I always say, too many kids are
living by and emulating these words to rely on that cop-out. Throughout that lil period
where Chiraq was all in the news, the main theme running through the music was that
they're REAL and don't just rap about it... and that "realness" has been a thing is rap
for some time now, since the late 80s, even.

I like the song but if you feel weird playing it as a dj in front of "multi cultural" audiences...maybe that's saying something

bc i agree with a lot of what you said...but it's very all or nothing and i don't think most people are like that

but

a.) i cant understand that nigga

b.) i think he's garbage

c.) the beat, the dance, and "about a week ago" are the only likable things about it

but with all that being said...the visual in the OP is jarring...it shouldn't be but it is...u don't get more awkward than all of that

I don't want that shit played in front young black kids because its a bad influence and nothing good can really come of it

I don't want it played in front of white ppl because it puts our ignorance on full display and I don't want our dirty laundry dissected by the man.

I kinda equate it to the whole n-word issue. me personally, I say nigga sometimes. but I don't say it in front of white folks, because its something that I use around my ppl and not even all of black people, just those im comfortable with. is using "nigga" around blacks controversial and questionable? certainly...but using it around whites raises a whole different set of issues and questions.

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a very immature 19
cut him some slack

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can't have no chomos signed to your label

and shame some of us carry around

and how much we really want the rest of nigga town to carry it around the same way we do

this is one of those times where being aware of shit only further restricts us...

we want certain things to be weeded out the culture...and maybe some of it should be...

it's like a small group of "enlightened" niggas and sympathetic others with too little cultural or capital influence stuck between racist/apathetic others and "uncooperative" niggas

some of us blame yt for both (their racist, privileged, or apathetic selves and for crippling the uncooperative blacks systemically)

some of us blame us for not policing our own culture is if that's enough to change that other piece of bread in this shitty sandwich

all this shit is crazy

One source said NYPD recovered 20 guns at a studio session, another said 2 guns plus crack in a car he was riding in. They been setting his ass up from the get.

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Or even maxx's thoughts on Black Messiah.

I agree with him.

Beyond that..... I have no comment (for now lol)


Seriously, though.... There's only 4 tracks I listen to with any consistency, though that is not to take anything away from the rest of it. It's a really good album but my mind is not blown.

But if nothing else, I appreciate that a work of such ambition exists in the current cynical, facile music climate.