>If you want to lay the blame on the officers that's a slippery
>precedent going forward. Right?

i don't know what you mean.

>How many times does the officer have to tell someone to get
>out of a 3,000 pound potential weapon before something
>happens.

why was the officer ordering him out of the car in the first place? he had no real need for that. the brother had been observed riding as a passenger in car w/o a seat belt. that's a traffic violation - not even a criminal offense. the officer approached the car and didn't develop any probable cause that another crime had occurred. the officer wanted to run the brother's name through a database to look for warrants. he needed the brother's name and date of birth for the warrant check. so he asked the brother for identification. brother didn't have any. so the cop asked for the brother's name. he asked the brother to write it down and hand it to him.

none of that necessitated the brother getting out of the car. the cop wanted the brother out of the car b/c the brother gave him attitude. the cop wanted to show the brother who the boss was. that's what went down.