i get that yall like it because of your own positions toward consumerism, but the abolishment of consumerism is not the goal. it'd be a great take away if folk realize it but if their own attachments to consumerism keep them from joining then we've lost from the jump.

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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."