or influence it used to have. (IMO).

Black folk who don't go to churh need a lightening rod also. There are plenty of those as well and they need to be reached. Listen, if we are really going to do something we must NOT argue each other down. We need to take all ideas into consideration before striking them all down before fruition. This post is like a brainstorming post IMO. We need to drop all ideas down, then break e'em out individually so a plan can develop.

Thx for this Bin.