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13500331, Yes, I reluctantly agree. Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Sun Mar-03-24 08:04 PM
I will stick to my stance that all self-immolations as a political protest should de discouraged and not romanticized (hence my reluctantly agreeing).
But I do believe there is a great difference between this kid and Mohamed Bouazizi. I really am in no position to judge whether Mohamed Bouazizi had other options to voice his rage against the machine but I know this kid did.
>>I am making a value judgement that I think no one should >commit Self >>Immolation under any circumstances and in no instance should >we >>encourage, applaud, romanticize, ennoble the act of >Self-Immolation no >>matter how righteous the cause. This is my first major >point. > >I think there's a huge difference between committing >self-immolation because you are actively being severely >repressed and that you are completely powerless to stop it and >being alive under those conditions is intolerable > >-and- > >A 25 year old guy driving his kid to the Israeli embassy in >the US and live-streaming it on his own channel and uploading >it to a blog doesn't reach that very high bar *in my eyes.* >Looks like a TON of folks in here disagree. > >If a senior Hamas leader set him self on fire I might be able >to see that as a possible act of political protest. Or a >member of the Israeli Knesset, or Israeli activist. Or just >Gazans/Palestinians. > >This, TO ME, seems like the wrong approach in the U.S. where >he had very little involvement of what is going on - and he >could have protested in literally 1000s of other ways and >maybe made a difference. > >This seems like he was taking on himself to show *HIS* >sacrifice - that it was about *him* - that's how it seems to >*me.* > >>and in no instance should we >>encourage, applaud, romanticize, ennoble the act of >Self-Immolation no >>matter how righteous the cause. > >100%, with a few small allowances. >
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