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13330087, Well see I don't think it's a charade, I think they're trying to put ...
Posted by Brew, Thu May-02-19 01:38 PM
... together the best case possible. Plus, the crimes are constant and ongoing so it's kinda hard to keep up. The problem is that Barr dismantled the SCO early so now time is of the essence to start laying these crimes out systematically, while continuing to investigate the ongoing crimes. It's not gonna be (nor has it been) easy but it has to be done. So I don't think it's a charade, it's moreso that I don't think they have the sense of urgency that is so clearly needed in this particular situation. Somehow the rest of the intelligent world understands how dangerous this "administration" is to the country and the world, but Dem leaders somehow have this false, outdated sense that this is just "how things get done in Washington" but these aren't just your regular tug of wars w/repugs.

Because while Dems continue to eat chicken and wag their fingers, Individual 1 and repugs continue to literally ruin the entire world and set the constitution on fire.

Which is to say that I agree with everything else you're saying. There is no time to play around. Impeachment proceedings need to begin *immediately* so the Individual 1 Mob knows the games are over. And maybe we can stop the fucking bleeding.

Because as you touched on, these are unprecedented times. These are not your normal Reagan/GHWB/GWB/Cheney Repugnantcans who had at least a *tiny* semblance of duty-to-country and honor. These are the Individual 1 Repugs who threw all normalcy and integrity out the fucking window the millisecond they attached themselves to this traitor.

We can't wait around any longer.

But, because Dem leaders are spineless, they're going to. And we're all going to fucking suffer for it. For a fucking LONG time.

It's reprehensible. And that's not even CLOSE to a strong enough word.


>Even if it is a "long game" of chicken, the timing is terrible
>man.
>
>Nancy is sharing tic tacs with Mr Obstruction? Oh and leaving
>it up to the "committees"? Cmon.
>
>
>Its also funny/frustrating that the GOP does shit like what I
>said all the time and come out on top.
>
>In fact, the GOP stonewalling Obama is often cited whenever
>even a slight criticism of Obama is brought up. He's
>basically immune to any accountability for a lot of Democrats.
>
>
>But when someone suggests the Dems fight like the GOP, its a
>"terrible strategy" and partisan.
>
>A terrible strategy that consistently works for the other
>side? A terrible strategy that stopped Obama's agenda in its
>tracks?
>
>I know- "Dems can't/shouldn't act like the GOP"
>
>That's kind of my point, though. Dem leaders and some voters
>want to keep pretending that there is some form of normalcy
>going on. There really isn't.
>
>So the Dems keep acting like everything is normal, and a lot
>of people get fucked. And they look silly.
>
>And if Trump really is as awful as we all say (including Dems
>in their hearings), why this urge to work with him on "common
>ground"? How do the Dems have "common ground" with this guy?
>
>And maybe it is a long-game of chicken where the Dems are
>going to be able to say "see, we even tried to work with him
>and the GOP voted against their own Pres" or
>whatever...fucking wait Chuck and Nancy. Wait at least a
>month or so and shine more light on the fact that individual 1
>is basically refusing to cooperate with congress, and ordering
>others not to cooperate.
>
>Shine light on Trump trying to dismantle Obamacare in the
>courts. Etc.
>
>
>And to your impeachment point, I (unsurprisingly to you, I'm
>sure) blame the Dem leaders. Either impeach or don't.
>
>Either hold Barr in contempt, or stop investigating.
>
>Either make every meeting/press even about Trump/Barr, or move
>the fuck on.
>
>
>This trying to half-way investigate Trump, but with no real
>plan to hold him accountable is muddling the message and will
>ultimately piss off everyone.
>
>So, if the Dems are going to impeach...do it.
>
>
>If not, stop the charade because all it is doing is making
>them look indecisive and like they are just holding
>hearings/investigations to ... well harass and put on a show.
>Which is exactly what they are being accused of. Make it
>count or stop.
>
>I know, impeachment takes time. Okay. Then stop giving him
>white house photo ops and cute stories about sharing tic tacs.
>