In my original post I through the disclaimer in to cover my ass and keep from tangenting. But I do think the historical place for church and preachers is an important one.

That said I think is a historical one, and the inability of us an others to shake it in dealing with the topic at hand is indicative of our larger race problem

America can only deal with the black community in monolithic terms, and then only hierarchical where there power is disseminates to us through accepted leaders. People like to complain about the lack of leadership in the black community but that falls into the monolithic thought.

Going back to the top we dont need leaders to represent our interests, we need our interests to be a part of the broader conversation, not just ancillary.

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