>The sound you describe is actually what happens when East
>Coast raised producers try to mimic that southern sound.
>Especially producers who learn how to produce from sampling.
>The bpm is what gives them away.

Yep, and it's good because a lot of East Coast rappers in the last decade have been trying to Rap over beats that were truly Southern, and it just didn't work. Same way L.A. rappers did the same last decade, and NEVER, ever made a hit from it.

>Like you said. Mustard is the sound of LA but he sounds
>nothing like Dre.
>Dre himself was reacting to East Coast hip-hop when he
>started.

Exactly what it is. Mustard doesn't sound like any L.A. producer from the 90's, yet when you hear his beats right now, you KNOW it's a L.A. track.


>Drake deserves to be credited for giving this sound a home on
>his records.
>
>Point of clarification: It's not just 808s that make the kids
>dance. After all there are 808s on Tribe's first album from 25
>years ago. I think its CLEAN 808s that resonates with the
>youngings. Due to recording technology (12-bit samplers), 808
>kicks sounds a bit dull in early rap when its played next to
>these 64-bit records. Its just a brighter and deeper sound now
>than back in the day.

Yeah, it does sound different from the 808's Tribe used...it's really more similar to the Boyz n da hood, Posse's on Broadway, Everlasting bass type of long holding 808's to me, just cleaner and more flexible.