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12762503, RE: Pac had a wide range of topics
Posted by Bombastic, Wed Mar-25-15 01:45 PM
>>not really true at all, there was about 8 or 9 different
>>'topics' just off the first album alone.
>>
>
>list the topics because outside of "Things Done Changed",
>"Everyday Struggle" "Juicy" and "Suicidal Thoughts" it was
>either drug life or witty east coast lyricism.
>
Warning is a classic storytelling caper deploying multiple characters speaking, Gimme The Loot is a stick-up anthem with Biggie rapping as multiple characters/voices, Me & My Bitch is a storytelling love song, Ready To Die delves into the paranoia/depression/nihilism later echoed in Suicidal Thoughts, One More Chance/Big Poppa are straight club/party records, Friend of Mine is about opportunistic women.

Add that up to the ones you listed and you got enough.

Lots of topics, even while maintaining a narrative thread and maintaining the same trouble protagonist throughout.

I did a 30-page Senior Seminar English paper in college contrasting this album with 'Native Son' by Richard Wright.

There's plenty of meat on the bone here and it's a more complete body of work than any album Pac ever made by a JFK-to-LAX level of distance.

>>He was a better actor, better icon, more charismatic figure,
>>better interview, better news story, better looking poster
>on
>>the wall 'and all that, all that, all that'(c)
>
>and better songs, got it.
>
>>He released a shit-ton of material, he recorded incessantly
>>and it wasn't all the most focused quality stuff either.
>>
>>Pac was more a songs guy than an albums guy.
>>
>>He didn't flesh out his thoughts into a cohesive album whole
>>like that, closest to doing so was the Makiaveli joint which
>>perhaps not coincidentally was completed & put together
>after
>>his death.
>>
>
>False. Makaveli was completed in 7 days prior to his death.
>Hence the album title The 7 Day Theory.
>
The album was still put together, mixed, packaged, arranged & released posthumously, genius.

I'm familiar with the backstory but thanks anyway.

>>Big talked about all kinds of shit from growing up, to
>>braggadocio raps, to storytelling joints, to mental issues,
>>rapping from different character's perspectives, etc.
>>
>
>Braggadocio raps don't impress me. Pac did all of that other
>shit as well.
>
LOL, let's start with a storytelling joint Pac had on par with any of Big's Top 5 just to make me laugh.

>>He just didn't make cuddly pandering cuts like "Dear Momma"
>or
>>direct I'm-Gonna-Kill-You direct diss records like "Hit Em
>>Up".
>>
>
>True. He just made cuddly pandering radio cuts like "Big
>Poppa" and "One More Chance" and dropped subliminal disses on
>other peoples records.
>
>>
>>I don't know what this has to do with anything but I guess
>you
>>got meander into musing about other shit when actually
>>comparing these two guys as MC's if you're taking Pac's side
>>of it musically.
>
>It has to do with Biggie's limited subject matter and the fact
>that Pac talked about more shit than him. You like BIG more.
>No biggie fam. Big was technically a better emcee but Pac made
>better music. Just my opinion.

That's fine, that's your opinion because you're a fan, I actually consider myself a fan of both as well.

But when it comes to the art of actually rapping/music-and-album/song-making, none of the actual nuts-and-bolts in terms of lyricism or music theory really hold up in favor of Pac as an MC.