http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ckzE5vT0wc.

kay.
so.
we've gone with it for this long.
now, according to that retarded yet clever yet retarded tagline "the end begins", this will be the final season.
and it def looks like a Deb v Dex showdown.

V.

depressed/trainwreck Deb was surprisingly not annoying like I thought she might be

cant wait for the evelyn vogel backstory

I eventually came around on both the actress and character, but I never realized exactly how invested I'd become in the character. Seeing Deb all fucked up was extremely uncomfortable.

I did too. And when Dexter killed her, I felt nothing. This season sucked. Why not let the man have a happy ending? Why does every show have to end on a dismal note?

I just need to see this dude get arrested and I'll be good.

to escape to somewhere Cuba...someplace.

Even now. So glad she's on the show.

Also, Cokey Deb is kinda sexy as fuck. Even my girl was like "I'd fuck her."

I like that Dexter is becoming unhinged. That should be something fun to explore as they go out here.

no

never has been hot to me...

...

I knew something was up with the Doctor when she appeared out of nowhere. And when she handed Dexter that envelope...I thought it was going to be Harrison's drawings...not Dexter's. Can't wait to see how she acquired those and how she figured him out.

not a fan of Deb's still. Wish she would die. lol.

I want Dexter to get away. I'm very excited about this season.

She didn't figure shit out. She's always known. Harry came to her for help when Dexter was a child.

>She didn't figure shit out. She's always known. Harry came to
>her for help when Dexter was a child.

or did at some point.

Pulling the strings on these killings to prove some point to Dexter in some weird way?

She said it in the beginning
Maybe we are both crazy...


Thing is she created him and she's crazy
and we just might find out He's not
He's developed too many feelings and attachments to be simply psychotic
He said it as well he's no longer pretending
But that was denitely her hand on the gun coercing that dude
~~~~
When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
~~~~
You cannot hate people for their own good.

....

However, I'm enjoying the show.

Because it seems really obvious. Like more so than Travis having his own dark passenger even.

What the blood claaat ???

....and told me you would blow my brains out if I couldn't tell you the name of the black chick workin' Miami Metro, you'd be wiping my smarts off ya garment. HAVE THEY EVEN GIVEN THIS CHICK A NAME????

I swear, everytime she's on screen I'm like "STOP ACTING LIKE YOU HAVE EVER INTRODUCED THIS CHARACTER!!!"

Now she up here talkin' in every episode like she's a regular.

>....and told me you would blow my brains out if I couldn't
>tell you the name of the black chick workin' Miami Metro,
>you'd be wiping my smarts off ya garment. HAVE THEY EVEN
>GIVEN THIS CHICK A NAME????
>
>I swear, everytime she's on screen I'm like "STOP ACTING LIKE
>YOU HAVE EVER INTRODUCED THIS CHARACTER!!!"

I couldn't give two fucks about the Brain Surgeon killer. They're doing a real shitty job making "him" seem like a threat. And Deb's moral crisis is playing out poorly. I most DEFINITELY do not care about Quinn taking the sergeant's exam or his relationship with Jamie (even with her being ridiculously hot).

This is the final season. This is it. The end. I need this shit to be pedal to the floor/"OH HOLY SHIT!" more than him sitting around talking to the good doctor about how sociopaths are a - ok

that dexter had started killing random serial killers for the doctor. the doctor is obviously a psychopath also...she's like Charles Manson, orchestrating this whole plan/program.

I mean it IS an interesting story line but it's moving slowly. She is right about Deb, she has to go BUT she keeps forgetting she came up with the rules, and killing Deb, even if she knows, violates those rules.

i mean if he kills Deb he should kill the doctor.

>i mean if he kills Deb he should kill the doctor.


She said in that first episode that she knew Dexter wouldn't kill her because she didn't fit the code, and then presents a scenario that also doesn't fit the code and is shocked that he didn't see that through.

Wait until doc finds out that blondie who's locked up knows about Dex.

Now that I think about it, that would be ill if doc finds out about blondie...gets access to her in prison on some false psych consult BS and kills her herself to protect Dexter.

shes on her Frankenstein pt 2
fuck no
Dexter wise up and fast
~~~~
When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
~~~~
You cannot hate people for their own good.

It's just painful to watch Dexter and True Blood at this point. It's a relief when they both eventually get deleted off the DVR every week.

>It's just painful to watch Dexter and True Blood at this
>point. It's a relief when they both eventually get deleted
>off the DVR every week.

and slow moving.
This is the last season so I had high hopes that it would go out properly and I actually like this story line with Dr Vogel having studied Dexter since he was a child and how her and Harry came up with this whole code of ethics since they couldn't stop his instinct.

But come on now...I was like please let this episode end now.

HOWEVER...I did like the last 5 or so min when you find out Harry OD'ed because of his guilt and then Deb tries to kill Dexter. Then here she comes rising out the water with Dexter like Jason did with Freddy in that movie. *smh* but yeah i was like Deb gotta go now.

She's just so irritating. Either get with the program or shut up.

>but yeah i was
>like Deb gotta go now.

Masuka has a daughter! The black chick finally has a name!!

I feel like the writers don't understand the idea of a "final" season.

.

but i will forever no her as Becky from FNL.

of the show ? they've always been there to lighten up the show even if you don't care about them

the Vogel storyline is good (IMO), Yates is a good villain so far, yeah the end was a little ridiculous but this season is still solid to me so far

Quinn and his desire to defend Deb and the friction that causes in his new relationship is a good storyline. Angel trying to help Joey make Sgt is not. To me at least.

the twists and turns are similar to the first few seasons. the insight into the Morgan family...Deb learning about her father's involvement in Dexter's dark passenger...Vogel as a sort of savior and therapist...you wonder what will ultimately happen with her, if she's truly a friend or foe, its hard to tell. i kind of think vogel's going to suprise us, and not necessarily in a positive way. but who knows.

it's also been long overdue to see more into the character of Masuka, aside from his corny and somewhat creepy humor. i like his character, even though i think it buys into that asian male film stereotype of being undesirable, nerdy and odd. His humor is different, you don't often see asian males as funny. but he doesn't get much appreciation for it. this sudden appearance of his estranged daughter is very interesting. they cast her very well, she resembles him quite a bit.

quinn has seemed to change, or atleast, we're seeing a side of him that shows he's more than an impulsive, somewhat dirty cop. he cares about Deb and respects Dexter...its a good thing he knows how to hide skeletons in his closet, because he knows some of Deb's and Dexter's.

i don't know about this girl Jamie is trying to hook Dexter up with. Ehhh.

That is the only explanation for this. This season is beyond horrible. It's somehow even worst than the last three.

The final season is not the time to introduce a bunch of new characters.

They really need to start wrapping up the show, what will happen to Dexter, etc.

This really isnt the type of show you can leave open ended and they havent even begun to touch the overall closing arch for the series it seems.

>the twists and turns are similar to the first few seasons.
>the insight into the Morgan family...Deb learning about her
>father's involvement in Dexter's dark passenger...Vogel as a
>sort of savior and therapist...you wonder what will ultimately
>happen with her, if she's truly a friend or foe, its hard to
>tell. i kind of think vogel's going to suprise us, and not
>necessarily in a positive way. but who knows.
>
>it's also been long overdue to see more into the character of
>Masuka, aside from his corny and somewhat creepy humor. i like
>his character, even though i think it buys into that asian
>male film stereotype of being undesirable, nerdy and odd. His
>humor is different, you don't often see asian males as funny.
>but he doesn't get much appreciation for it. this sudden
>appearance of his estranged daughter is very interesting. they
>cast her very well, she resembles him quite a bit.
>
>quinn has seemed to change, or atleast, we're seeing a side of
>him that shows he's more than an impulsive, somewhat dirty
>cop. he cares about Deb and respects Dexter...its a good thing
>he knows how to hide skeletons in his closet, because he knows
>some of Deb's and Dexter's.
>
>i don't know about this girl Jamie is trying to hook Dexter up
>with. Ehhh.
>

while interesting, boring as fuck. Asian dude's daughter is the only thing I want to know more about. other than that...*smh*

hot mess.

i mean i'mma keep watching though cuz i have to see how it ends.

I hope they set up a movie franchise with the rich kid as Dexter's Robin, Deb as his Batgirl, Rampling as his Alfred and Angel as his Gordon

This show is getting looney.

In the past ep, did anyone notice Dexter telling everyone (including MF'in Quinn) in the apartment that he had to go to work - like Quinn won't notice? Not to mention the fact that Quinn dates Jaime who I'm sure will haphazardly inform Quinn that Dexter is doing some shady stuff.

Dexter should've been caught. For the past 2 seasons he's been making a lot of rookie moves. I'm not too keen on the writers making this professional killer so absent minded.

EDIT: He didn't actually tell Quinn he had to work, only his date. I sure Quinn will find out anyhow though.

which speaks to him either wanting to get caught or just plain tired of killing. Or both. I mean obviously they are wrapping up the series so maybe that's their way to close it but he's just so sloppy. He's getting a bit out of control too, so maybe he's just cocky and doesn't care any more?

IDK but i want Dexter to win. Doesn't look like that will happen though.

LOL, police on this show are allergic to connecting the dots that Dexter is a murderer. Even when they do wind up doing it, they either wind up dead (Doakes, LaGuerta) or just forgive and forget (Quinn).

The finale will be him literally painting the walls of Miami Metro in someone's blood while the other detectives go about their day.

Although I want to say, they did a great job casting that rich kid who obviously murdered the maid. He just oozes sociopath, though it probably helps that he's dressed like the asshole rich kid in Last American Virgin.

what a lame end to yates...they're not going to go any further with the fact he was removing parts of peoples brains, had some crazy complex torture basement...that doesn't get revisited? instead suddenly its all about his mom click clacking when he was hiding under the bed...stupid. the rich son doesn't look like a good villain either

>what a lame end to yates...they're not going to go any
>further with the fact he was removing parts of peoples brains,

Because he's not the Brain Surgeon.

(he only found out about Dex when Dexter broke into his house. So how would he have sent the "His & Hers" brain boxes to the Doc?)

Still say Rampling's behind the killings. Probably not doing it herself, but controlling the killer like Manson.

I still think she has something to do with it...

that he had brain surgery himself and has a permanent scar on his head exactly along the line where the brain surgeon had been cutting peoples heads open?

I definitely hope you're right. The preview for the next ep showed no hints of the brain surgeon still being around though, if I remember correctly

>(he only found out about Dex when Dexter broke into his house.
> So how would he have sent the "His & Hers" brain boxes to the
>Doc?)
>
>Still say Rampling's behind the killings. Probably not doing
>it herself, but controlling the killer like Manson.

Maybe she used to control the killer like Manson and he broke free/went off on his own ?

>that he had brain surgery himself and has a permanent scar on
>his head exactly along the line where the brain surgeon had
>been cutting peoples heads open?

More just her "design" (c) Will Graham


>>Still say Rampling's behind the killings. Probably not
>doing
>>it herself, but controlling the killer like Manson.
>
>Maybe she used to control the killer like Manson and he broke
>free/went off on his own ?

That's possible too. I didn't think of that. But yeah, she definitely knows more than she's letting on, if not knows or is behind all of what's going on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/30/dexter-spinoff-scott-buck_n_3678805.html

.

This show is really ridiculous at this point, but it's still very well made though. The writing is suffering, but they do a good job of putting everything together. But this intern thing better not turn into anything real and it better not be the basis of the rumored spinoff. Well at least Hannah came back to switch things up. But how did she get out of prison?

I'm convinced the writers of this season have never watched the show. Because we did this already with Miguel Prado. The idea that "Oh I can teach the code and have a friend. Wait! What! He's not following the code!?" So this Intern shit... I've seen it. Well I saw it with Smits, I guess I never saw it with a psuedo-Chuck Bass. So there's that.

>how did she get out of prison?

Man, how did she get out of prison and how did Deb and Dexter not know about it???? I hope they answer that in the first few minutes of the episode next week. I mean, they won't, because the writers have decided that they don't have to actually work out a plan, they just have to say "....and then this happened."

I mean I get setting up a surprise ending, but those previews set it up like she's been out and has a new husband!?

DUDE! My wife and I said the same thing. Dude on here looking like Chuck Bass. (BTW, she watched that show. I just happened to be in the world while it was on. #Don'tJudgeMe)

Well I saw it with Smits, I guess I never saw
>it with a psuedo-Chuck Bass. So there's that.
>
>>how did she get out of prison?
>
>Man, how did she get out of prison and how did Deb and Dexter
>not know about it???? I hope they answer that in the first
>few minutes of the episode next week. I mean, they won't,
>because the writers have decided that they don't have to
>actually work out a plan, they just have to say "....and then
>this happened."

Yeah. The writing hasn't been any good since Deb saw him kill Colin Hanks. They've been spinning their wheels trying to bide time till the series finale.







>I mean I get setting up a surprise ending, but those previews
>set it up like she's been out and has a new husband!?
>
>

>DUDE! My wife and I said the same thing. Dude on here looking
>like Chuck Bass. (BTW, she watched that show. I just happened
>to be in the world while it was on. #Don'tJudgeMe)

She's a huge GOSSIP GIRL fan. I only know what I know about it from when it's on when she's watching it. I said that shit to her about the intern and she was like "SEE!? I KNEW YOU LIKED WATCHING IT WITH ME!!!"

Backfire, my dude.... Backfire. lol

This show has some of the worst writing on television, but they didn't just spring this out of nowhere.

Is there a real world Florida/Miami family of wealth/power/influence that have been implicated in murder ?

I ask this because I was watching a pretty old episode of CSI:Miami (lol) and Horatio was investigating a man and his nephew that were linked to a rape/murder.

The family name ?

Hamilton.

And they were seen as this Kennedy-esque dynasty.

I just wondered if it was just coincidence/lazy writing/other ?




What the blood claaat ???

I gave up on the show after the Jimmy Smits season, only to return after the glowing reviews of Season 4 started coming out. Season 5 sucked, but coming on the heels of S4, I was sure they had another good season. They didn't but I couldn't come this far and NOT see the finale.

When it's all said and done, I will have watched 7 seasons of a show that I only enjoyed for 3.

Everything since then has been good ideas that are poorly executed.

in an abstract, Dexter taking on an "intern" is corny...but you can't tell me the way they actually did it with the speech with Zach on the table wasn't well done. I dug it. I don't think its that similar to the Jimmy Smits season at all

this season did get pretty bad

They should have re-introduced Hannah in episode 2.

No.

As a matter of fact, after this past episode, I might do something I've only ever done once in my life* and bail on a show I've spent years watching in its final season.

(* - NIP/TUCK)

I can honestly say I think there have been at least 3 jump the sharks this season

Like, at all.

I'm gonna stick with it, because I've already come this far, but ugh.

might as well ride it out.

>Like, at all.
>
>I'm gonna stick with it, because I've already come this far,
>but ugh.


This, exactly this.

I can't wait for the shit to be done.


What the blood claaat ???

Okay outside of eveything that happened last night WHEN Dexter walked into his place and saw Zack sitting there I was like "OH THIS NIGGA DEAD" and y'all know what...he was dead.

I am starting to think this is Dr Vogel.

>I am starting to think this is Dr Vogel.

Right there with ya.

was the brain surgeon.

and dr vogels' appearance just happens to coincide with these murders. i wouldn't be surprised if she's collect that portion of the brain to study for herself.

she is quite the shady character. either she's doing it herself OR she has someone helping her.

I mean, look at post #16. We are all >right there< on it. Most of us even unmoved by the Yates throwaway. I feel like they're tried to pull the same thing they did season one with Neil Perry, except there's no "surprise!" as to who the actual architect is. It's so weird.

is that the brain surgeon is someone close to rampling, like a son/daughter/ex-husband/brother etc., who she tried to help and was the reason for her fascination with psychopaths...but for whatever reason she's holding out on Dexter that she knows exactly who the brain surgeon is.

BTW...The moment from when Zach showed up at the motel room to before he died was by far one of the funniest episodes of Dexter ever. The dysfunctional "family" dynamic of Dex + Hannah with Zach almost being their goofy son, and Vogel as the creepy grandma, was hysterical. "Hope everyone's vegetarian", "Get your elbows off the table," etc....lololol

I think she fed them brain... (Old family recipe)....

Crazy theory from my wife is that Harry is still alive.

but i can get with the fact that the killer may be related to Vogel (familial). this episode actually turned me back on to Dexter (moreso the end, cuz I said HOLY SHIT when I saw Zack was dead. But i knew it when he walked in...i was like DIS DUDE DEAD).

Never thought the brain surgeon was dead...but i am interested in seeing who it is now.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/make-your-own-kind-of-music,101569/?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds&utm_source=type_tv-club

"In The Writers’ Room, the team joked about dumb ideas they’d had over the years, one of which was to reveal that somehow Harry was still alive. "

That kid was the most entertaining he's been on the show during those scenes. So it did kinda bum me out when Dexter found his skull scooped out.


>BTW...The moment from when Zach showed up at the motel room to
>before he died was by far one of the funniest episodes of
>Dexter ever. The dysfunctional "family" dynamic of Dex +
>Hannah with Zach almost being their goofy son, and Vogel as
>the creepy grandma, was hysterical. "Hope everyone's
>vegetarian", "Get your elbows off the table," etc....lololol

I always suspected Dr. Vogel was the brain surgeon. Remember when
Dexter found that video of that one dude killing that other dude
(Shows you how unmemorable these episodes have been, I can't remember
anyone's name) and it looked like someone had a gun on the killer
making him do the killing? They kinda dropped that plot thread. I
guess it was suppose to be that last dude Dexter killed, but it they
never really explained why he would force someone to kill another
person at gunpoint? I think it's more likely that it was Vogel ( An
old woman who would need to use a gun.) the person holding the gun.

"hobbies are the furthest thing from what it is we do" then she was evasive when hannah asked her about herself.

only other people the killer could be is matsuka's daughter or deb's boss.

her son.

lmao.

The Vogel son plotline is weak

Final season, I really thought they might bring back Cody or Astor as a sociopath killer, having Dex have to kill one of them would have probably been a better story imo.

So will Dexter get caught, killed or flee to Argentina at the end. I don't think we get a satisfying ending either way. Really should have wrapped up the series season 5 since 4 was the last really good one.

killer had to be related to Vogel and she's acting all stupid. because she is involved too. she's orchestrating the whole thing. this show needs to go head and die.

its been fun having some new dynamics and characters in play (adding Vogel and Zac into the mix and fleshing out a dysfunctional 'family' for Dex was interesting, but too little too late), i'll give em that. but i've never seen a show just stop giving a fuck the older it got lol. it's amazing. this show's literally been coasting offa those first two PHENOMENAL seasons of television. there is a complete lack of respect for the audience for us to keep believing Dex has been goin around routinely breaking into ppls places, snatching n grabbing in broad daylight, AND NO ONE FUCKING SEES HIM lol.

what happened to the heart-constricting tension it used to bring when the shit first started? *GRRROOOAAANNNN* lol. god. the deja vu im feeling right now...is cos ive typed this same stupid tirade every season. ANYWAYS lol.

only 3 eps left.
hoofuckingray.
there is no way Dex will die or get caught at the end of this.
he's getting a happy ending.
theres no ambiguity to his fate like there currently is with BB and Walter White, cos the ppl behind this show stopped giving a shit.
i HOPE im wrong, but they'd have to pull sumthn miraculous outta their ass with only 3 eps to go.

V.

>there is no way Dex will die or get caught at the end of
>this.
>he's getting a happy ending.

They are telegraphing everything this season. No surprise at anything that's happening although, admittingly, I don't know how this will end. But who the killer ended up being (obvious when the neighbor's date arrived and was all distraught...) and being related to Vogel. Vogel dying...she needed to die.

Two episodes left.

Everything is coming together, so we shall see.

The reveal of Vogel's son was the lamest, most contrived shit so far.

And how Dexter caught him out with the aging program. What kind of shit was that?

The only redeeming thing this season is Masuka's topless daughter.

>The only redeeming thing this season is Masuka's topless daughter.

Don't tell me that, man. I feel like an enormous pervert right now. Sitting here at work like "Do NOT google when you get home. Do NOT google when you get home."

She needs to get the fuck out of Miami and wait for Luke Cafferty to come back from deployment. That's a good man right there.

Yes! "Daughter boobs" has been the only decent thing this whole season.

I was just telling a friend that some of the crap the writers have been doing this season is such trash, no sense of urgency. Like in this past episode, Becky/whatever her name is in this show shows up to the crime scene to help and Masuka realizes she's high and sends her home. Like wtf was the point of that?

If I had to guess, at this point I feel like it will be something completely moronic like Quinn taking the baton from Dexter as Dexter leaves town with Hannah/Harrison (poor Harrison is gonna miss Jamie, the only person who has tried to actually raise him ha)

lol

almost as dumb as her just chilling openly on the beach in full view of randomass ppl.

and i dunno why, on top of everything else this show is shit at, whenever they show interiors of Debs house with the doors open and the beachy background, it looks fake as shit (that is of course, cos its a SET, but still, NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER TO MAKE ME THINK OTHERWISE, spesh with them fakeass wave sound efx).

OH MY GOD how glaringly annoying is the crappyass dialogue on this fuckkiinng shoowww aarrgghhh. it's like, they do something, or they're about to do something, and then they go ahead and explain in words that thing they did or are about to do. i am just...FUCKING perplexed.

the Deb & Quinn reunion was completely unnecessary other than giving Deb SOMEone to be with if/when Dex leaves and/or dies. meanwhile Quinn couldn't find someone better to obsess over?

yalp, Masuka's daughters been the highlight, only cos of how frickn cute she is. daughter jammers were ok but there was barely any tit there to even crack wood over (her ass is straight tho), so it ended up being as awkward for ppl watching in real life as it did for the fictional character of Vince Masuka.

and lastly, congrats to the writers for NOT KNOWING WHAT THE FUCK TO DO WITH ANY OF THESE CHARACTERS. they have turned out to be some of the whiniest, DUMBEST, annoyingest characters on television. i gave a pass to Masuka cos he's Masuka (and actually the most consistent character on the show).

kinda wishing this shit was over already. sitting thru this seasons been torture.

V.

y'know maybe she should think about dying or cutting her hair

This show has become so fucking stupid but gotta finish it out now

>almost as dumb as her just chilling openly on the beach in
>full view of randomass ppl.
>
>and i dunno why, on top of everything else this show is shit
>at, whenever they show interiors of Debs house with the doors
>open and the beachy background, it looks fake as shit (that is
>of course, cos its a SET, but still, NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER TO
>MAKE ME THINK OTHERWISE, spesh with them fakeass wave sound
>efx).
>

now I'm going to be looking specifically for this just so I can be entertained


>OH MY GOD how glaringly annoying is the crappyass dialogue on
>this fuckkiinng shoowww aarrgghhh. it's like, they do
>something, or they're about to do something, and then they go
>ahead and explain in words that thing they did or are about to
>do. i am just...FUCKING perplexed.

and this goes on for almost the whole hour


>the Deb & Quinn reunion was completely unnecessary other than
>giving Deb SOMEone to be with if/when Dex leaves and/or dies.
>meanwhile Quinn couldn't find someone better to obsess over?
>

I said - why would you leave a pretty thang that stays in the kitchen....for a beer drinking pottymouth boyish chick?

The funny thing is this was the most plausable thing that happened the whole episode. Alot of people want their ex and would bust in 2 minutes if given another go.

>yalp, Masuka's daughters been the highlight, only cos of how
>frickn cute she is. daughter jammers were ok but there was
>barely any tit there to even crack wood over (her ass is
>straight tho), so it ended up being as awkward for ppl
>watching in real life as it did for the fictional character of
>Vince Masuka.
>
You mean those bee bites? LOL

>and lastly, congrats to the writers for NOT KNOWING WHAT THE
>FUCK TO DO WITH ANY OF THESE CHARACTERS. they have turned out
>to be some of the whiniest, DUMBEST, annoyingest characters on
>television. i gave a pass to Masuka cos he's Masuka (and
>actually the most consistent character on the show).
>
Poor Batista...played by a good actor but never having much to do EVER

>kinda wishing this shit was over already. sitting thru this
>seasons been torture.

word

to Dexter, and makes a movie, or even movie series that starts some time between S03E01 and S04E12, and actually goes ahead with some of the better ideas that have been tossed around the internet on how it should all end (i.e. turns out Mathews knew about Dexter all along, Harry didn't commit suicide and Matthews staged his overdose just like he overdosed the prostitute, Dexter gets caught and brought in by Deb, Dexter on trial with the whole world watching and societys mixed reactions on whether or not he's a hero, etc.)

How did a room full of professional writers spend the better part of year working on this trash? Although in a way I have to hand it to them. Each week I don't think it's possible to make an episode more insignificant than the last, yet each week they prove me wrong.

This show has shit the bed worse than anything I've loved. Ever.

I'm so glad Miguel's wife said Miguel's name as I had no fucking clue who she was, but it sure was nice of them to bring her back, of all people. I'm just shocked that Dexter didn't have a voice 0ver to make sure we all knew who the fuck the real estate lady was.

But, I think the best part of it all, is that we now have to believe that Rita, girlfriend and wife of years, mother of his son, who was brutally murdered because of him, that he felt seasons plus of grief, couldn't cure him of killing, but hot ass Sarah from CHUCK whom he spent MAYBE a total of six months with (and that's being generous) has made him go, "Yeah, I got this guy who killed my protege, my spiritual mother, made threats on my sister, son and girl who is important because the writers say so.... Nah, I'm not gonna kill him. This make sense."

It's so frustrating because this shit might be worse than ANYTHING they have presented in the "this show has not been able to recover since Trinity" tailspin it's been in for years. Which is saying something, because Luman, Travis Marshall and whatever last season was that I already forget but vaguely remember because the single most important character in Dexter's life was introduced came from there, almost making me forget the awesome work the Punisher did, were all shit. But I would (sadly) much rather revisit all of that hokey shit than sit through this.

I mean, what the fuck is even going on here?

Though, I should not be remiss to mention that a storm is coming. Luckily, the writers have made that so heavy handed that any subtlety of that being metaphorical has been beaten to death by nearly every single character in the cast.

Please tell me no one is liking this? Actually, this thread only being up'd by me bitching should go as far as to answer that.

Matter of fact, this thread getting up'd after RAY DONOVAN having legit discussion should just about tell you how fucking bad things are.

only the finale is left

I think far worse than Dexter having a sudden revelation as he leaves his life in Miami that he doesn't need to kill Saxon, was him and Deb walking away and leaving Saxon alone to escape. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? That was the most ridiculously painful thing to watch.

ROFL @ This: "What if the Dexter Writers wrote Breaking Bad" http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/08/dexter-writers-wrote-breaking-bad/

>I think far worse than Dexter having a sudden revelation as he
>leaves his life in Miami that he doesn't need to kill Saxon,
>was him and Deb walking away and leaving Saxon alone to
>escape. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? That was the most
>ridiculously painful thing to watch.

And then a Federal Marshall didn't know who a wanted fugitive was! He's worse at his job than all the shlubs at Miami Metro!

>And then a Federal Marshall didn't know who a wanted fugitive
>was! He's worse at his job than all the shlubs at Miami
>Metro!

NO ONE, anywhere, is worse at their job than Miami Metro.

...in a video sawing off the headpiece of a rich socialite who's been missing. Comes up on him tied to a table, AND LET'S HIM GO LIKE HE'S A VICTIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for backup...but it's tv. I was more thinking "damn, we can't get a 2 hour series finale next week?" Maybe that's for the best, though.

and I just couldn't bring myself to it.

THIS IS BAD.

and right now its a waiting game to see what happens at the end. I can't believe that Dexter was like "yeah let me let him go. that's a good idea. i won't kill you BUT I will get you locked up for life." THIS is a bad idea because dude had NOTHING to lose...you think he won't give up Dexter and Vogel...that he wouldn't snitch on everything going down? like how was that a good idea in anyone's mind?

why Deb just left and not stayed with him while she called for back up is beyond me...

and her lie about taking Dexter's son to the ER was just ridiculous. no one believed her.

and what's up with Masuka's daughter? why was this ever a necessary storyline...is she eventually going to end up involved in this? like she was the one who helped Vogel's son or something?

It's so ridiculous and SO BAD.

I mean we all know Trinity was the high point...last season to me was cool...I liked the religious storyline but this shit right here...NAW.

jesus this season...so goddamn aimless.
so freaking amateur.
let this be over, lawd.

V.

Within the span of presumably a week, Dex's neighbor and "fake" mom die... and Angel tells Dex to go home. lol, on what planet would he not be a suspect?

.

I agree with most and could add my own.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/09/20/dexter-final-season-gripes/

'Dexter' final season: The 10 biggest fan gripes
By James Hibberd on Sep 20, 2013 at 1:57PM

Sunday you’ll see the final episode of Showtime’s Dexter. Producers are very confident they have a strong finish, a conclusion they’ve been crafting for years. The eighth season premiere, too, was quite strong. But then there were all those episodes in between. Fan reaction has been unkind. Funny or Die wrote that Dex should kill the writers. Recappers like AV Club have been brutal. One blogger last month wrote an open letter to Showtime pleading with the network to just skip to the finale. The show’s hardcore supporters on Reddit turned sour and even Dexter‘s former showrunner bashed it. What happened?
Here are the most common gripes:

1. The final season didn’t tell the story fans expected and wanted: Dexter Morgan is an unassuming police lab tech hiding in plain sight as a serial killer. Especially after last season’s finale, where Deb killed Capt. LaGuerta, fans have naturally assumed the final season would address that central tension and focus on Dex’s secret unraveling and the hunter becoming the hunted — which is the route the similarly conceived Breaking Bad took this summer. Instead, season 8 felt like a typical season with Dexter battling new external threats instead of a final season that felt like it was building toward an epic conclusion.

2. Those subplots. Masuka finds his biological daughter. Quinn tries to pass the sergeant’s exam. Jamie and Quinn’s romance is rocky. Fans wondered: Why? Why, in the final season, are we watching low-stakes side-stories? These characters should ideally be involved somehow in the central storyline, but they were shoved aside to appear in their own USA Network-style mini-dramedies.

3. Soft new characters: Dr. Evelyn Vogel was a strong addition to the show. But what is the point of Jake Elway besides barking at Deb and drinking electrolytes? Why was Deputy Marshall Clayton added to the show a few episodes before the finale to track down Hannah? Consider: This is a show full of cops and its the last season. If somebody is going to track Hannah and get stabbed to death by the Brain Surgeon. Why not give that story arc to Batista or Quinn or, heck, even Elway?

4. Miami Metro clown college. We accept that Dex is smarter than his colleagues and he gets away with a lot of homicidal shenanigans right under their noses. But season 8 took Miami Metro cluelessness to new level. First we learn that Dex successfully covered up LaGuerta’s murder last season because his bosses let him work her crime scene — even though she accused him of being a serial killer in front of the whole department shortly before she was killed. We’re told Batista has a box of evidence from LaGuerta in his living room which might incriminate Dex and Deb and we assume he’s going to look through it — he never did. Then Miami Metro lets Dex work another crime scene of somebody he’s close to — his cute neighbor’s murder, even though they dated and she lives right next door. Deb even CONFESSES to killing LaGuerta and Quinn refuses to believe her. When Dexter quips that the murder solve rate in Miami is only 20 percent, you know why — you literally can’t get arrested by Miami Metro!

5. Convoluted Big Bad. In last week’s penultimate episode, Oliver Saxon (aka The Brain Surgeon) became a rather effective icy villain. Yet for most of the season, Dexter kept trying to fake-out fans on The Brain Surgeon’s identity. By the time he was revealed as Dr. Vogel’s son, the storyline had become so tangled it was difficult to feel emotionally invested. Here’s one EW recap reader’s summary of the Brain Surgeon storyline that was posted in the comments last week:

Vogel: Dexter, I want you to kill the Brain Surgeon.
Dexter: I don’t want to.
Vogel: Please kill the Brain Surgeon.
Dexter: I will kill the Brain Surgeon.
Vogel: Kill all these serial killers.

Dexter: Okay. I found one named Zach Hamilton. He will die.
Vogel: Don’t kill Zach Hamilton.
Dexter: I NEED to kill Zach Hamilton.
Vogel: Don’t do it.
Dexter: I will not kill Zach Hamilton. I will teach him the code!
Vogel: Cool.
Dexter: He cannot be taught the code! I must kill him!
Vogel: Don’t.
Dexter: My mistake. He’s cool. I’ll teach him the code again.

Dexter: That guy you wanted me to kill wasn’t the Brain Surgeon. Instead, your SON is the Brain Surgeon! I will kill him!
Vogel: Don’t kill my son the Brain Surgeon. All he ever did was kill my other son and threaten my life.
Dexter: I NEED to kill him.
Vogel. I know, but don’t.
Dexter: Okay. (I’m really going to, though)
Vogel. What a relief.
Dexter. Look at this video of your son killing Zach Hamilton.
Vogel. The horror! Dexter, please kill my son the Brain Surgeon.
Dexter: Will do.

Brain Surgeon: You picked Dexter over me! I will kill you AND Dexter!
Dexter: Okay, now I REALLY need to kill Brain Surgeon!
Brain Surgeon: Sorry Dexter. Can we forget all this if I buy your condo?
Dexter: I don’t want to kill you, I want to bang my girlfriend.
Brain Surgeon. Okay, thanks for letting me go.
Dexter: Nope. I’m calling my sister right now to arrest you. Also, please don’t tell on me for my serial killing even though I told on you for all the brain surgery.

6. Bad romance. Deb has returned to Quinn and Dex has returned to Hannah. It’s hard to get excited about romance when it’s a rerun of partnerships that didn’t work out the first time. Dex’s master plan this season is to move to Argentina with Hannah and Harrison. That makes Dex just about the worst father ever, dragging his child to Argentina because he’s fallen for a woman with a long history of poisoning people, including the Morgans. Harrison tells us he loves Hannah, but what does he know? He’s four!

7. Plot contrivances. Dexter has always existed in a heightened reality that required you to accept a fair degree of implausibility. As long as the storytelling was strong, fans went along with that. This season, spotting plot holes became a spectator sport: Dex and Deb crash a police pool car into a lake and almost drown and there’s no questions or consequences. Hannah poisons Dex and Deb in a major cliffhanger scene — then next week we find she simply left Dex on the side of the road for no discernible reason. Dex “stalks” the Brain Surgeon by standing in front of a diner window staring at him for nearly an hour then marvels when he’s spotted. Dex finally captures the Brain Surgeon after hunting him all season, then decides to give him to Miami Metro even though he’s certain to reveal Dex is a serial killer. Most commented on by fans was that notorious fugitive Hannah kept strutting around Miami — including on the arms of a famous billionaire — without making any attempt to change her appearance, even after learning that U.S. Marshall was closing in.

How not to stalk: http://ewpopwatch.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/dxterstalk.png?w=300&h=270


8. The Breaking Bad comparison. It’s probably unfair to compare any TV drama to Breaking Bad, especially this season. But if you’re watching both shows, it’s tough to avoid: They’re dark cable dramas about a seemingly ordinary guy who’s secretly a murderous criminal mastermind and they’re airing their final seasons in the same time slot. Except Breaking Bad put the focus where fans wanted — on the other characters realizing Walt’s secret and his behavior throughout the whole series having huge and devastating consequences. Every scene clicks neatly and logically into the one before it, like Lego blocks, with each character on the show having a crucial role to play.

Here’s a cartoon that’s been making the rounds poking fun of Dexter‘s penchant to over-explain itself: http://ewpopwatch.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/breaking-bad-dexter-writers1.jpg?w=1024&h=358



As one recap reader joked: “And then half the episode follows Steve Gomez thinking about starting a restaurant.”

9. Dexter’s too happy. Dex hasn’t been deeply challenged. Who would have suspected we would have started the final episode with Dexter still working at Miami Metro, happily dating his ex-girlfriend, nobody suspecting him and all the show’s regular characters still alive? The big life concept he’s been debating this season with Dr, Vogel is whether he’s taking on too much by juggling his job, Hannah, and the Brain Surgeon. If that sounds familiar, it’s roughly the same idea he wrestled with in season 4, whether he could “have it all.” He already learned he can’t, or so we thought.

10. This: http://youtu.be/lBRvhIV81hY

Lol at number 5 too

last night was a bit of a let down.
i mean i got what i wanted...deb died and dexter got away but come on now. when i thought dex died (when he drove into the storm) I was pissed as hell but then this dude emerges as a lumberjack. come on.

i was shocked that he gave harrison to hannah but what other choice did he have in retrospect? but i see they left it open so they could develop a movie if they wanted too.

and can we talk about how dex just killed saxon and they let him go like oh it was a mistake? understood. not in real life.

and carried it to his boat (didn't he sell it?) which was waiting right outside the hospital?

then rode his boat into a fucking hurricane and survived.

what the fuck?

him driving into the hurricane and surviving reminded me of the other time(s?) he was out on the water, a boat exploded and they left it as a cliffhanger to whether he survived (Travis Marshall exploding a boat Dexter was on in Season 6)

Masuka's daughter was added to the show for literally no reason, wasn't even in the finale lol

I know they were busy getting ready for a hurricane, but you'd think one person would say "Holy shit, that guy dressed in serial killer green is just walking out of here with a corpse!"

>and carried it to his boat (didn't he sell it?)

Nah, the guy that was going to buy it wanted "more room for beer" or something like that.

Fuck 'em all. I don't care if they also wrote something that was amazing. Fuck them in their entire asshole.

And who ever has the credit on this finale? I don't want them to ever have a job again. Not just writing. I want them blacklisted from work, period.

They did a great job asking them about every gripe we have discussed here and their answers all suck.... and of course they do, because there is no defending this season.

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http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/23/dexter-interview-series-finale/

After eight seasons, now we know the fate of Dexter and Debra Morgan. Neither outcome was predictable in Sunday night’s poignant and surprising finale “Remember the Monsters?” Below showrunner Scott Buck and longtime executive producer Sara Colleton take our questions about the final episode, defend the creative choices made during season 8 and answer a couple questions about that rumored spin-off.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: This episode was really unlike any we’ve seen on the show before. How much time and money was put into this hour compared to a typical week?
SCOTT BUCK: It was considerably more. There were a lot of visual effects that are very costly and then to go out and shoot in Astoria added to our price tag. But it was our final episode and Showtime was very accommodating. Our normal eight days of production became 10 days.

Before the season started, you said the core idea behind this finale has been in the works for years. What was the original concept?
BUCK: The kernel idea were the last few scenes. They were what I pitched a few years ago. The main idea was Dexter is forced to kill Debra. And there are many ways that could happen. But those final scenes were pretty much unchanged.
SARA COLLETON: From the very beginning the paradox was here’s a guy who doesn’t feel he’s a human being, who has to fake it. But in faking it, he’s a better brother, boyfriend, colleague that most real people. People think of him as a monster, but he yearns to be human. We’ve seen him go forward on this journey every year. Now we found out what the final price was. What sums up the entire journey was the scene on balcony of his apartment before going on the boat to put Deb down — that’s horrible to say aloud. The voiceover: “For so long all I wanted was to feel like other people … now that I do just want it to stop.” It’s the horrible awareness of what it was to be a human being and how overwhelming that is for him. His punishment is banishment. He sends himself into exile. Killing himself is too easy. When he turns and looks into the camera at the end he’s stripped everything away.


Were there any other versions of the ending that you rejected?
BUCK: The only real variation was what he would be doing. I knew he would be in a self-imposed prison that would be as far from Miami as possible. We’d find him working in some solitary environment where even if other people were around he would make no contact and not talk to anyone. We would follow him home and he would have no human contact.

In a way that’s his new code — avoiding human contact.
BUCK: Yes. For us, that’s the tragedy. The one thing we felt Dexter wanted more than anything was human connections. Even in the first season we see him trying to get with Rudy. Now that he’s finally made that journey and he’s almost poised to have a real human life, he has to give all that up to save Harrison and Hannah.
COLLETON: He went into an absolute shutdown. He no longer has even his voiceover.

Why was it important to end the show this way?
BUCK: It seemed like the ending that was most justified. In season 1, you saw this guy who was so compartmentalized. The last couple seasons have been about breaking down those walls by having his son and his relationship with Hannah and having Deb discover who he is. Still he was able to justify what he did. We felt it took the death of the one person he cared most about to really look at himself. wasn’t something that happened to him but his decision. He had to bear the burden of deciding his own fate.

Deb’s death is interesting choice because, for all intents and purposes, Deb basically “dies” off screen when she has her stroke and goes into a coma.
BUCK: In some ways. But I think we all feel the real moment is when Dexter hits that button. We also did it that way because in some ways it’s a little more shocking.
COLLETON: In their goodbye neither knows that they’re saying goodbye. I so admired because they never let that this was their last scene slip through. They just tossed it off in a wonderful way. I really do think when Dex walks out of her room think everything is fine with Deb. But she doesn’t die off screen. When she takes her off life support she’s very much a presence there. I feel that’s what she wants. I would hope if it ever happen to me I’d have a big brother who would take that pain onto himself.


In a way, Deb sort of gets what she’s wanted for most of the season.
BUCK: That’s true in a way. There’s one point where she wanted exactly that. But she makes a turn two-thirds through the season. Things are looking up for her. She was seeing a possibility for happiness. The death she may have wanted at one point was the last thing she wants right now.


It’s also surprising that Miami Metro never realized Dexter’s secret. Everybody expected them to figure things out in the final season.
BUCK: We toyed with that idea, but it felt off-point. The story was ultimately about Dexter’s personal journey. We have one moment in that interrogation room with Quinn and Batista. Watching the tape, Quinn has known all along that there was more there to Dexter. Batista is seeing a hint of the darker Dexter. There was a hint in that moment. But we didn’t want to blow it all up and revel he’s a serial killer.

But a fan gripe was the season had Dexter dispatching new threats like in a typical season rather than a sense of that the show was arcing toward a finale with Dex’s world unraveling.
BUCK: It felt like we had done that with LaGuerta last season and with Lundy in season 2. I felt like it ran the risk of feeling repetitious and familiar.
COLLETON: Going that way felt pedestrian to me. I don’t know how else to put it. Years ago it was discussed and tabled as a very predictable non-interesting way to go.

The writers seemed to have a higher opinion of Hannah as a suitable mother for Harrison than the fans. Couldn’t Dex’s criticism of himself — about being toxic everybody around him — be said about Hannah too?
BUCK: I don’t think so. We wanted to believe Harrison would be happy and safe and well taken care of. Dexter judges people on a different level. That Hannah is a killer, Dex understands that. She’s a different kind of killer. She kills for self protection. That protection now applies to Harrison. Dexter believes she will lay her life on the line for Harrison.


Have to ask: How did Dex get from his boat to the shore in the middle of a hurricane?
BUCK: Hopefully it’s not a question that will be examined too closely. The show has always been a half step away from reality; it’s a hyper-reality. We established there is an emergency life raft with an outboard motor on the boat. He could have gotten in the raft and made it safely to shore.

The fade to black after Hannah starts to take Harrison for ice cream before we find out what happened to Dexter — I’m sure that had some fans starting to howl at their screens. Was that a deliberate fake out?
BUCK: It was mostly to establish that to the rest of the world everybody thinks Dex is dead. We the audience are the only ones privy to the fact that he’s alive.

The episode felt more serious, focused and emotional than Dexter normally is. But it made me wonder why the show doesn’t normally have that grounded tone.
BUCK: That’s interesting. I’m glad you liked it. The show started out in such a different place. The first season, the level of reality was more suspended. We felt like we were gradually making it more real. Michael always said about the ending, ‘Let’s make it real, let’s deal with it more realistically.’ I think it was more a gradual move rather than a sudden turn at the end of the final season.
COLLETON: To me, it feels very much like a Dexter episode. This season led up to this and I feel the last few episodes feel like parts of a whole.

I found the episode compelling partly because there was so little voiceover and no Ghost Harry to explain what Dex was thinking. Was that deliberate to ditch those devices? Should you have done that sooner?
BUCK: I don’t know. It’s a little late to ask. It’s certainly a compelling question. We very purposely had Dex say goodbye to Harry in previous episode and made a conscious decisions to do very little voiceover, particularly in those final scenes. I didn’t want any voiceover to explain things. I didn’t even want any music.
COLLETON: We have slowly this year, very consciously, stripped out a lot of voiceover. Very much so compared to previously years. It was very important to have very little of it at the end and to let the emotion of the moment speak for itself. In episode 10, when Dexter comes in and finds Dr. Vogel dead, what he’s feeling is on his face — normally we’d put voiceover, but we very consciously did not. At this point the audience knows what he’s thinking.

What flipped the switch for Dexter in the penultimate episode in terms of no longer wanting to kill? Is it simply because he loves Hannah?
BUCK: It’s really an accumulation of everything that’s he’s experienced over the years. He finally has a woman who understands him and they’re incredibly physically attracted to each other. And there’s Harrison.

Ghost Harry saying goodbye also felt a bit abrupt; it didn’t feel like there were scenes with Harry that really led up to that decision.
COLLETON: I think there’s a scene coming out of Vogel’s house, about three episodes back, where Harry says Dex is feeling a stronger pull. If you really go back he foreshadows that Dexter doesn’t yet recognize that there’s an equal or stronger pull than the dark passenger. The last episode couldn’t be just a series of goodbyes. That moment is Harry realizing he’s no longer needed.

Some fans were disappointed by this season. Were you happy with the episodes leading up to the finale?
BUCK: Even if i don’t write an episode, I’m still in charge. I take full responsibility. We all work cohesively as a team. If people think the final episode stood out, it’s probably because it’s been sitting in my mind for so long. It’s a difficult question to answer.
COLLETON: I think some episodes worked better than others. But as a whole the Deb and Vogel story lines worked and we wanted to change it up and have the big bad hide in plain sight. Darri Ingolfsson, who plays Saxon, he’s fabulous once you realize . The scene where he comes to Dexter’s apartment is a wonderful scene. I try not to read any of the blogs because then I become paralyzed. If they knew how much we agonized internally about everything … if we then tried to factor in an assortment of opinions it would dilute the process.

My suspicion was you guys got kind of screwed by having to rush the season to get it ready in time for a premiere date that was months ahead of schedule in order for Showtime to use the show to promote Ray Donovan rather than air in the fall like usual.
BUCK: A little bit. It certainly affected us in some ways. We basically did two seasons back to back. Normally what happens is you take a longer break and come in filled with ideas. We did absolutely the best we could. Ultimately it was my decisions to do that, as well. David Nevins asked if we could do this and I said we could. Hopefully the season didn’t suffer for it.
COLLETON: I think we rose to the challenge. Would we have liked to have more time? Yes. But we had arced out the two years, so it wasn’t like we had to start at the very beginning. We would have loved to had more time before we started shooting. But once we did start shooting it was the same schedule.

One point of contention was some of the supporting story lines. Like why spend time with Masuka and his daughter and Quinn taking the sergeants exam in the final season?
BUCK: We wanted to give some indication of where these characters were going. We wanted to give them all a bit of resolution toward the end. Masuka was a very small story, it took up a small amount of screen time. This is probably the most sexist character most of us have ever seen and for him to have his first honest relationship with woman and have that be his daughter felt interesting. As for as Quinn, we’re trying to spend time with characters that have been with us for a long time and we’re never going to see again.

Since Hannah’s a wanted fugitive, couldn’t she have at least put on a ball cap when walking around Miami?
BUCK: We played with the idea of dyeing her hair. In the research we did on fugitives we learned there are countless fugitives out there just walking around that nobody is really looking for. There aren’t funds to hunt down every one of them — particularly Hannah, as she hasn’t been convicted of a crime. She’s not high priority. We put her in sunglasses. Otherwise we didn’t want to call more attention to it.


So what is the spin-off concept that Nevins has been hinting about?
BUCK: No concept whatsoever.

Really?
BUCK: Absolutely not. I’m going to sit down with Showtime and discuss the possibility. But we haven said a single word about it.

The rumor for a while was the spin-off would star Deb. Was that ever a possibility?
BUCK: Never any truth to that. But we sort of played with that idea once that rumor was out there because I think it was beneficial for people to think we were going that direction.

Would Michael C. Hall have any involvement in a spin-off?
BUCK: No idea. Who knows what the future of Dexter is?
COLLETON: Right now there’s nothing planned. It couldn’t happen without Michael C. Hall wanting to come back. And I think he’s enjoying this new part of his life.

Scott, you referenced that we’ll never see Quinn again. So is it safe to assume any spin-off would not use the current supporting cast?
BUCK: I believe that’s most likely. We won’t see the current cast again.

What’s your plan for when the finale airs? Are you going to read viewer reactions?
BUCK: It’s always a little scary, but I think it would be disrespectful to not hear what people are saying.

What would you like Dexter’s impact to be?
COLLETON: If Dexter has made anybody really stop and think about their behavior, that would make me very happy.

>But a fan gripe was the season had Dexter dispatching new
>threats like in a typical season rather than a sense of that
>the show was arcing toward a finale with Dex’s world
>unraveling.
>BUCK: It felt like we had done that with LaGuerta last season
>and with Lundy in season 2. I felt like it ran the risk of
>feeling repetitious and familiar.
>COLLETON: Going that way felt pedestrian to me. I don’t know
>how else to put it. Years ago it was discussed and tabled as a
>very predictable non-interesting way to go.

LOL, what?!?! The show DID get repetitious and familiar, but him actually getting caught and exposed had not been done, and Lundy wasn't even close.

>Since Hannah’s a wanted fugitive, couldn’t she have at least
>put on a ball cap when walking around Miami?
>BUCK: We played with the idea of dyeing her hair. In the
>research we did on fugitives we learned there are countless
>fugitives out there just walking around that nobody is really
>looking for. There aren’t funds to hunt down every one of them
>— particularly Hannah, as she hasn’t been convicted of a
>crime. She’s not high priority. We put her in sunglasses.

Could be an acceptable answer, except the fact that she continued to not have a disguise after she knew a federal marshall and a private investigator were looking for her and showing up to Deb's house!!!

AND the fact she was wanted enough that a random nurse recognized her and reported her!

>>Since Hannah’s a wanted fugitive, couldn’t she have at least
>>put on a ball cap when walking around Miami?
>>BUCK: We played with the idea of dyeing her hair. In the
>>research we did on fugitives we learned there are countless
>>fugitives out there just walking around that nobody is
>really
>>looking for. There aren’t funds to hunt down every one of
>them
>>— particularly Hannah, as she hasn’t been convicted of a
>>crime. She’s not high priority. We put her in sunglasses.
>
>Could be an acceptable answer, except the fact that she
>continued to not have a disguise after she knew a federal
>marshall and a private investigator were looking for her and
>showing up to Deb's house!!!
>
>

If you're gonna be this horribly off the wall should've at least brought ghost Doakes back or somethin.

with Elway and the Marshal chasing after them, then after the marshal dies, Elway waiting at the airport, plus a storm is brewing and threatening to shut down the airport.......


doesn't dexter own a fucking BOAT?!?!

he can't just sail that shit to the Caribbean or Mexico and hop a flight from there? Or just keep sailing down to Argentina?

I fucking LOVED how it was revealed that Dexter had a mooring station for his boat RIGHT OUTSIDE HIS YARD !


There's just so much bullshit this show show wallowed in, it's actually equal parts maddening/hilarious.

Just glad the shit is over and I don't have to deal with it anymore.



What the blood claaat ???

Not gonna dance on its grave
It was a good ride while it lasted
~~~~
When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
~~~~
You cannot hate people for their own good.

...but really have to stick with until the end.

RIP Dexter. I can now fill my time with better things.

>RIP Dexter. I can now fill my time with better things.

and dump them into the ocean and ride off into a hurricane to become a lumberjack.

jesus fucking christ.
i hated TDKR so fucking much.
but to see the ending replayed (in a fashion) on an equally-annoying and mind-numbingly dumb tv show sucked even more.
every complaint i have u guys have already touched upon, as did that wonderful article above.
im not sure if the writers themselves are inhabiting this same self-described "hyper-reality", but reading the interview with the showrunners made it clear these guys either had NO clue where the fuck to take these characters and this story in a meaningful & suspenseful way, or just didn't have imagination enough to think of something BETTER. i mean these idiots were planning movie-of-the-week soap operaish subplots in the final season, while the protagonist goes happily trotting around a Miami which apparently consists of ppl with no eyeballs, meanwhile his girlfriend, a wanted fugitive, DOES ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOTHING TO ALTER HER APPEARANCE. i dont care what DEGREE of wanted fugitive she is, her face and deets were out there. this is how the nurse at the hospital recognised her. stands to reason others would too. stands to reason that idiot would've dyed her hair, AT THE VERY LEAST.
thus, the writers laziness infects the character. i cant blame the character. she/it is an empty vessel. populated by the writers words turned manifest. it's been a very sustained and clear WRITING problem on this show. doesn't matter if they can convincingly conjure up an entire storm, nothing on screen means a damn thing if the words on the page are sorely lacking.
in terms of goin for a lowkey ending, considering the shitty quality of the show post season 2, it had no right to opt for the soft finish. this shit is so off the rails already, they could've at LEAST raised the stakes. ie. EXPOSING DEXTER. this whole "it was really about Dex finding that human connection", the show has REPEATEDLY shown that this is IMPOSSIBLE for Dexter. so instead of moving on and getting REALLY dark with it, we get yet another retread. and when they do finally follow through with that plotline, it's stale, boring, and has NO impact whatsoever.

ykno what? gimme a fucking writers job. and i will sell u on this proposition with my idea-i-had-just-now for an alternative final season of Dexter, in which: Dex loses Deb pretty early on in the season in some horrific way. he has no one to blame but himself. he fully immerses into his dark passenger, and instead of battling a 'big bad' all season, he BECOMES the fucking big bad. and it's Miami Metro vs Dex all season.

now thats not the BEST idea i can think of, but its the only i could come up with within a 2min timespan. and it sure as SHIT sounds a helluva lot more entertaining than the shit we had to put up with in the end.

i dont think ive exhibited this much hate for a show before, specifically the ending of a show. and it was hard to feel any kind of nostalgia or sorrow that it was ending. id have to go back and watch seasons 1 and 2 again to remember WHY this show was must-see tv. and seeing all that has come since those first 2 perfect seasons of television, tells me the show shoulda told one GIANT interconnected story that was ongoing and only escalated and escalated. so instead of ending Dex's imminent threat of exposure at the end of season 2 and him starting fresh on some tangential storyline in season 3, the investigation into the Bay Harber Butcher shoulda just gone UP a notch until we get back to my final season plot.

then you'd have 3 seasons of unforgettable tv instead of 2 unforgettable seasons and 6 largely forgettable ones. but, tis of course all too little too late. im definitely not sad to see it go, and i still hold a high place for the first 2 seasons, which is the only reasons i kept watching. i just wish they woulda done these characters, not to mention the ACTORS, some justice.

to put succinctly? the entirety of the showrunners idea for the final season that he'd been sitting on for years was: Deb dies, Dex leaves Miami and becomes a lumberjack. the end. but i guess for a show that displayed a low IQ not just in its fictional universe, but in the writers room, it's really just par for the course.

V.

"its the only i could come up with within a 2min timespan"


That is probably what the writers' said also when writing the finale.

an excerpt from an interview with the writer/director of the penultimate episode of BB...you don't need to watch BB to understand.

V: How did you decide to bring Gretchen and Elliott back, and also the principal Carmen Molina, who Walt once hit on unsuccessfully? Were there key episodes early on that you looked back on knowing you might want to revisit certain people?

PG: One of the things that Vince really instilled in us was to, instead of constantly introducing new things, look back at all the elements that we already have on the shelf. What can we mine from the things that we’ve already established? It’s one of the things that helps the show have a feeling of unity. People often ask if we’d planned everything in advance, and the truth is some of it is planned in great detail and some of it is a kind of improvisation, but everything is talked through an awful lot. With Gretchen and Elliott we always knew that we wanted to have them back.

That gritty voice Bale used in the movie. Anyone noticed it?