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Fuck the Emmy's.
Snubs of Anarchy.

it's one of the top shows on TV, network or otherwise

Crazy.

is a fucking crime..

That woman put on one of the best performances last season.. And I'm sure this upcoming season will be even better..

I cannot wait.

yeah they definately should've gotten a couple acting nods...Katey without a doubt should've been nominated.

I won't be so quick to shit on him.

Clay again shows why he is an effective, smart leader.

can't wait tho

seems to be getting better and better as it goes...im excited

Can't wait. Kinda see this being the last season but who knows. FX is on point.

no way...it'll go atleast 4 seasons...i'm thinking 5 would be a good number. they still have to let the young bucks take over the chapter. Opie and Jax will be running things before the show ends and that probably won't happen this season since it'll be all about getting Able back.

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Damn... Cannot wait for next week....

I see the poster everywhere on my drive to work..

Really hyped for this season..

For some reason i have a feeling this could be the last season.

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lets see what they do with it.

Jax is on a straight warpath now that he finally let it all out. For a second I thought he was going to pull some Ed Norton stuff and smash that guy's grill on the curb.

Amazing first episode.

i dont think he's gonna be on Opie status this season but i'm glad he took Clay's advice and unleashed some of that anger.

Didn't do a whole bunch, but really set the tone and i can't wait to see what comes next.

who was that? the irish?

is Hale dead? was the little blond kid the son of Opie's girl?

also, how awesome was that SAMCRO coffin?

line of the night from Clay "Anything happens to my grandson, I promise you I'm gonna shove a gun barrel up that bony ass of yours and I'm gonna blow your black heart OUT"

My little sister looked at me and said "The Sons take care of their own."

hahaha..

>who was that? the irish?
>
>is Hale dead? was the little blond kid the son of Opie's
>girl?
>
i think yes and yes

>also, how awesome was that SAMCRO coffin?
>
>line of the night from Clay "Anything happens to my grandson,
>I promise you I'm gonna shove a gun barrel up that bony ass of
>yours and I'm gonna blow your black heart OUT"
>

she'll really be lucky to still be alive at the end of this season...yea she's a fed, but as soon as they get a chance with no blowback, they WILL take it...she tried to be badass with Tara and Clay, but she KNOWS they won't taking shit off her and she deserves a new kind of hell for what she got poor Abel into...

as per usual, can't wait til the next ep...

Dude got his dome rolled over by a van, yea I'd say hes not alive

i thought he mighta lived actually...now i'm feelin like dude in that Wu skit.

i figured they'd have him in a coma or something. seems odd to kill him now...he was just starting to actually play a role in everything.

and even then it's 50/50.

such a random death...seems like a waste

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Especially since he is running for office.. Gives him a platform for an anti SAMCRO movement and the sympathy of the voters...

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you think he's tied in to this whole Mayan thing? i mean, that'd be kinda backwards but it kinda makes sense. its the deal Zoebel was planning on making and he was down with Zoebel. im guessing he's naive enough to think they won't be dealing the heroin in Charming and he cut a deal with them to get them and him more power and wipe out SAMCRO.

that is EXACTLY what I suspect is going on!
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the manhole when Irish is carrying the baby clearly says Belfast BCC so it looks like he made it to Ireland and we will be going across the atlantic some time soon. Also was that the Irish dude in the Sons wife/ baby momma that was in part of last season?

Was Jimmy O lying? Is the babynapper in Canada or not?

The writer confirmed that they filmed scenes in Ireland, so they will be going there.

after watching the second episode, there's no doubt that he's in ireland...the reason they think he's up north is because of the info they got from the bounty hunter of him being up there...my guess is thats where he flew to ireland from. jimmy o lied to keep relations good between them and the sons. remember he said "if i have any info on his whereabouts" and that was right after talking to the priest and knowing good and well where he is.

the thing i dont get is, they killed Cam so why don't they just say they found dude and got him for them? not sure why they're trying to keep the kid or what exactly they are planning on doing. once cam was killed i kinda thought the drama with the irish was over and they would move on to this whole mayan thing but that long shot of homegirl feeding the kid implies otherwise.

they way I took it, The priest was having a conversation with the chick that's watching over Abel, he mentioned that if the Sons or Jimmy find Cam, they will tear him to shreds and make him suffer. The priest is related to Cam and knew that he had to kill him for being a narc but would do it to keep Cam's soul intact and minimal suffering..


What they are doing with the kid is still up in the air for me..

EDIT: If they tell them that they got Cam already, they take away the revenge from the Sons... No real sense of Justice for Jax...

great 2nd episode...

side note: Tig slamming that chick from behind is an image that I could have lived the rest of my life with not seeing.. lmao

gross, hairy fuck. tig's presence screams sex offender

>side note: Tig slamming that chick from behind is an image
>that I could have lived the rest of my life with not seeing..
>lmao

If old John Teller was against illegal activity, why would he be in league with these Irish people like the priest anyway?

he wasnt against illegal activity...just didnt want to do all the killing and gun running they ended up having to do. i think he was more against all the violence.

I need to re-watch the episode.

I wasn't able to catch a lot of the dialog between the priest and the Irish.

I have a feeling I missed something there. The priest was acting like the Sons were next door neighbors with some of what I understood, yet this was back in Ireland.

love this show.

funny thing is i never thought she looked good until this show

..he was hittin it on the second day...

and the messican girl is stupid ( i always thought she was just st8, no more or less), she doesn't even know who she's dealing with but was ready to turn them in for that loot...it sounds ok at first thought, but she don't even know who she's fuckin wit...i woulda stayed outta their bidness and kim as long as they gave me no stattic...no "search" needed...

I mean, no talk about the episode? They threw in all types of shit. That doctor better not be pregnant.

Anyone else see Jessica Bangkok. Don't act like you don't know who that is.

I assume I probably shouldn't google that name from work.

EDIT: Also lol @ creepy ass Stephen King.

like i wanna know how he got rid of the body, but i kinda don't. Not a bad episode just not as intense as the first 2.

i never heard of her, but i'm guessing she was shorty that was talking to Munson...she's the one that stood out in my mind.

i didnt even think of the Doc being pregnant...i assumed she threw up cause she just witnessed/took part in yet another murder. man, i hope she isn't either.

here's my thing about last night...if the Irish don't want SOA to know that they have the kid, why kill Cam and leave him out in public? that part makes no sense to me...they might as well take credit for the killing and give the kid back...i still dont get why they didn't just go that route. now they've opened the door up to all types of drama, which i guess is good for the show but makes no sense from a story writing standpoint since no real motivation was revealed for this course of action.

btw, is the priest part of SOA Belfast? is Jimmy O? How does this work? Are they some sort of other entity that is just affiliated with them? SOA Belfast seemed to be clueless about everything...and i didn't even know they existed until they walked through the door, so i'm wondering if anybody has any insight as to how that is set up. I mean i know Cam was IRA and there's the connection through Chibbs but all these other fools coming out of the woodwork still have tons of mystery surrounding them. who exactly did the Priest fear would torture Cam...SOA Belfast? he said he killed him so that it'd be quick whereas if "they" get their hands on him...etc

but from what i understand, the preist is part of the IRA. so is Jimmy O. the blonde lady is SOA, and is also the ex of "JT" Jax's dead dad, which is why she's so torn on this

we don't know how big SOA is in Belfast so it's hard to say how big of a factor they are, but the priest had Cam killed because he's family, and didn't want the IRA heiarchy or whatever to torture him (someone correct me if i'm way off on all of this)

like you, what i still don't get is why the irish don't just give the kid back, since this is all on Cam. it seems to be some type of power move by Jimmy O.

and i don't think doc is preggers either, since the timing of her puking isn't exactly random.

reason being.. The Pres that walked into the store to talk about Cam laying dead in the street is an Original 9 member. (check the patch on his vest) meaning he is a founding member and obviously a good friend of JT's. I just can't imagine a founding member running a small time club.

The Priest is pure IRA... and somehow related to the blonde lady....

I think the priest has an agenda against SOA, might be due to the fact that JT had some type of romantic involvement with the blonde and then left. Prob broke her heart bad and now the Priest is resentful. Keeping the kid possibly is some type of revenge (I might be reaching here)


I think once we figure out the whole JT and Blonde Lady connection, the Irish situation will make a lot more sense.

but i hardly know who anyone's name is

i don't even know why so many of the Soms were even at that party...i know they provided the entertainment, but they shoulda just sent a couple guys to make sure the girls were gonna be safe and everyone else did something else....soon as ol girl went back there i knew it was gonna be trouble...

...i don't understand what's going on with the IRA and Abel either, but it was interesting to see the blonde lady's connection to all of it, and fucked up how Sack's ex hadda find out he was dead...

...i didn't care about anything goin on at Gemma's dad's house....

...i love the fact that the Sons are this bad ass crew, but they never seem to have enough money to get done what they need in a pinch

yup, soon as i saw him sitting there moping with his bottle of Jack i knew it was bad news but i was hoping Jax would take him outside or something.

>...i didn't care about anything goin on at Gemma's dad's
>house....

neither do i...that storyline needs to die quickly but i dont see Gemma leaving her pops alone without a caretaker.

>...i love the fact that the Sons are this bad ass crew, but
>they never seem to have enough money to get done what they
>need in a pinch

yeah i was thinking that too...the guns were 10 grand i think, how do they not have that kinda money? how can they not afford 6 machine guns? how do they not have 6 sitting around to give to Lodi? i figured Clay would be able to just give them some from their own personal stash...that made no sense to me at all. we're not talking about dozens of weapons here.

it's not that i dont believe i just think its funny that this organization doesn't have the cake or stockpiled guns to handle this exchange fairly easily...i know they were at war for a little bit but still. all those chapters they got...it doesnt make much sense.

I guess that they had a lot of weapons confiscated from them during that botched hit on Zoebell and co. Also, the legal fees and getting bail probably put a dent in their cash flow. If I remember correctly, they had to get that politician to put up collateral.

the money part i get, since it comes with the lifestyle, but you'd think they'd have some type of stockpile somewhere by now

10 gz though? really? (i think it was around that much) come on now...these fools aint hustlin right if they can't round up 10 gz on right away. whats the point of being an outlaw.

Which means with all the various setbacks, I can actually believe that they haven't been able to stockpile weapons in any meaningful way.

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that was awesome.

I think the Priest has plans for Abel.... seems like he wants some type of vengence on the SOA. Not sure why though.

the fact the played to his seemingly weird actual persona made it better for me...he barely said anything, but what he did and said was all triple plat....

which was also a psuedonym he used to write under
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After all this, I bet they still give an Emmy to somebody who played a janitor on Mad Men over her.

i thought the line about her being a redhead was pretty funny...

so Jax is finally going to Belfast

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I thought I saw her name flash up under that credit but I'm too lazy to go back and double check.

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dont care about any of the storylines so far, will give it another episode or so to turn it around

I was hoping the Abel storyline wouldn't take so many episodes to get resolved but looks like it's going to drag out another 2-3 more at least.

to get him back, but it's panning out that way

If the Sons end up in Ireland, you better believe someone will use them as a weapon against their enemies. Preacher already has it moving.

Sit back, ride, I think we're just heating up here.

things usually get real serious around week 5-6 for this show...i think we're in for something good the next couple weeks.

yeah, there's a power struggle between jimmy o and the old guard, but how does it give him leverage? if jimmy o's the one who wants to push SOA out of the picture, why is he the one who wants to give the baby back?

i should probably turn on captions for the belfast scenes

was it just money half sack's ex found in dude's pocket? i'm assuming it was the pay off for lying to jax, but she seemed surprised, as if either dude shouldn't have that much money, or it was some type of other foreign currency

mmmmm vicodin

What we're seeing now is a power struggle within the IRA. The Priest and his posse are both at the same time in cahoots with and against Jimmy n'dem, 'cause he's threatening the old way: recruiting impressionable youth from off the street to fight the war, etc.

What the Priest realizes is that the anger Jacks n' Gemma is feeling over his son can be used to his advantage in weakening Jimmy. Although Jim wants them Sons out of the way, he can't just go to war with them without taking big hits to his stock. But this move with the wee one brings all kind of shit right to Jimmy's front door. The Priest is going to try to push Jimmy out, methinks. And if he gets the confidence of the Sons, it's a much easier power move for him.

Also, these episodes are revealing some deeper ties between the Sons and the IRA. The Teller family name has been dropped a few times with significance in the Ireland scenes, and I wouldn't be surprised if we meet some of the original Irish MC real soon.

>What the Priest realizes is that the anger Jacks n' Gemma is
>feeling over his son can be used to his advantage in weakening
>Jimmy. Although Jim wants them Sons out of the way, he can't
>just go to war with them without taking big hits to his stock.
>But this move with the wee one brings all kind of shit right
>to Jimmy's front door. The Priest is going to try to push
>Jimmy out, methinks. And if he gets the confidence of the
>Sons, it's a much easier power move for him.

wee one? me thinks? I like this, I think all future summations should be done in the dialect of wherever the scene takes place.

>Also, these episodes are revealing some deeper ties between
>the Sons and the IRA. The Teller family name has been dropped
>a few times with significance in the Ireland scenes, and I
>wouldn't be surprised if we meet some of the original Irish MC
>real soon.

I have a feeling some large SOA skeletons will be exposed once they get to Belfast. They're not dropping JT's name left and right for no reason.

imma be real pissed. Right now Sons and Terriers are two of my favorite shows.
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i swear that had to be their 10th hug at least

shit's getting like

Opie - Hey Jax... Terra called

Jax - And what did you say?

pause

Jax - OP!! WHAT DID YOU SAY?!!

Opie - I told her you were in the can and you'd call her back in a few minutes

Jax - oh.. sorry brother, it's just.. things are just...

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that dialogue had me dying

good call above on tara being preggers

blondie's big secret has to be way more than her just being JT's old lady. is she jackson's real mom?

jax's deal with stahl seems almost too perfect

i hope we learn more about mcgee and the belfast sons

>blondie's big secret has to be way more than her just being
>JT's old lady. is she jackson's real mom?


And this, I think we're gonna see a whole 'nother level of the Sons once we get to Belfast, both with the new blood and the ol'.

>i hope we learn more about mcgee and the belfast sons

I'm also looking to see some more serious Army interaction, because we haven't really seen 'em do shit yet, 'cept be slithery hustlers. The urgent fear in blondie's eyes, voice when she was talking to the old man. Heads gon' get knocked.

judging by the way everyone talks about them, and how that luke guy laughed off jax's threat like he was a chihuahua

i don't see us losing more than one known SOA member this season, so a bunch of those Belfast Sons are likely gonners if there's conflict.


>I'm also looking to see some more serious Army interaction,
>because we haven't really seen 'em do shit yet, 'cept be
>slithery hustlers. The urgent fear in blondie's eyes, voice
>when she was talking to the old man. Heads gon' get knocked.
>

...that girl in Ireland is his sister...I'M CALLIN IT NOW.....that whole shit was heavy handed as fuck that they HAVE to be related the way everything has been playin out esp the phone convo between Jax and the girl......i don't think the blonde is jax's bio mom, but that girl is John Teller's daughter...

..loved Jax's play in the end...smart move...shit, it's his best move....he can't lose it all and had to do SOMETHING...the odds were stacking against him...

>...that girl in Ireland is his sister...I'M CALLIN IT
>NOW.....that whole shit was heavy handed as fuck that they
>HAVE to be related the way everything has been playin out esp
>the phone convo between Jax and the girl......i don't think
>the blonde is jax's bio mom, but that girl is John Teller's
>daughter...

there's still gotta be more though because gemma, and clay are worried about of him finding shit out over there, and that's gotta be more than JT had another baby mama overseas. we still don't know how he died yet right?

yeah i kinda figured she might be John's daughter but Gemma saying 'MY boy" like that on the phone felt odd too...she really could be Jax' mom. that'd be real bugged out if it were the case.

>...that girl in Ireland is his sister...I'M CALLIN IT
>NOW.....that whole shit was heavy handed as fuck that they
>HAVE to be related the way everything has been playin out esp
>the phone convo between Jax and the girl......i don't think
>the blonde is jax's bio mom, but that girl is John Teller's
>daughter...

Good call... makes more sense then her being Jax's mom, though I haven't ruled that out, this makes more sense, they really set that up with the testy conversation with her and Jax on the phone...




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Someone/something is going to completely fuck up the deal.

There's a lot of show left and I hate to complain, but I literally fell asleep during this.

None of this is interesting to me anymore.

but it's not as good so far. the conflict with the aryans was just more intriguing/fun than jax trying to find his baby. not to be a dick but does anyone really care about abel?

i'm still into it though. i wanna to see how the stuff with the irish pops off, plus the belfast Sons. also, Zobelle is still out there, and Hale's brother (who's likely behind buying up all that property), and they never dealt with Georgie. they have a lot of ground to cover.

honestly it took me a while to get into the show...i dont think season 1 was that strong until about halfway through. season 2 on the other hand was awesome and hit on all cylinders but this one is kinda taking a while to develop. you're right, i dont care about Abel and i'm bored of this storyline. i really wish it hadnt been the focus of the season...when it looked like they would get him back after a couple episodes i was excited to move on but it seems they will drag this out for a while...but like you said, its opening up a lot of potential for whats going down with the irish and the belfast club. i just hope they dont wait until the last couple weeks to put it all at the forefront.

i stopped watching a few episodes in, then caught up on hulu on a boring work night. didn't really grab me until the later part of the season.

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And its pretty obvious blondie is his sister

I also think jemma signed off on jax's pops being clipped

they were asking for AK's for this? they should have just asked for binoculars.

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Why did he have to get voted in?

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>Why did he have to get voted in?

He was a transfer, who needed a unanimous to get voted in to Redwood Original. If I remember correctly, he talked about going back to Cali to be closer to his fam.

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he was the technical adviser, and they put him on the show

i wonder how HA feels about that

but yeah, what they said.

Chuck Zito's been in shows...not to mention all the books some of those guys have written about the club. why would they care?

i think i watch too much gangland. i saw one last month where this old man in seattle was a hells angel back in the early days of the club, and those guys who found out he was claiming HA ran up in his house took all his HA related shit and beat him half to death.

i dont get it, they beat him just for being an old school member? or because he was talking about the club?

i found out recently that HA have a lot of history in my area but they've been fairly underground since the early 90s. one of my boys was telling me stories he was told by a friend he does construction with. they were tied to a lot of major news stories that i remember hearing about as a kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZQqMHYxOB8
the main part starts around 8:10, but he's in it earlier too

I still not 100% about whats going on in Ireland, but each week the show keeps getting better.

And every single person in Belfast is pissing them pants not to upset him.

The priest obviously has some kind of emotional or familiar tie with Jimmy, who on some level seems to respect and fear the father, e.g. people go to him for protection (probably still vastly limited protection). The shit with the baybey is a power move on the priests part. He seems to want SamCro to take out Jimmy, and he's using the kid to line up all the pieces.

- Sam Crow and the Mayan's are gonna regret not killing that dude.
- Tara can't catch a break at all that she's about the get jacked up. 2 weeks with 50% of Sm Crow gone to Ireland is gonna seem like forever. No protection. Bet she loses that baby. The club itself and the way Clay runs it this is the biggest pack of leeches. She won't have a life soon at all.
- So now that Hale is gone, ole boy isn't going to kick the bucket from cancer?

- I'm curious to hear about Sr. Teller's history in Ireland. Yes we know he had another family. Guess Gemma didn't know everything.

- So Samcrow Ireland are some shady bastards. I can't tell who is on there side besides ole girl.


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>- Sam Crow and the Mayan's are gonna regret not killing that
>dude.

Yeah. He'll cause some havoc while the rest of SamCro take care of biz in Ireland. Time for Piney to step up and hold the fort.

>- Tara can't catch a break at all that she's about the get
>jacked up. 2 weeks with 50% of Sm Crow gone to Ireland is
>gonna seem like forever. No protection. Bet she loses that
>baby.

I think if that happens and Jax finds out about the baby, he'll lose his shit. That or Tara getting hurt might bring them closer together.

>- So now that Hale is gone, ole boy isn't going to kick the
>bucket from cancer?

Unser has been more and more accepting of the fact he's gna die soon. While this would be a huge change for SamCro, I think they gain a new ally with Oswald esp if he wins the election. Dude is some overthinking mofo but I understand why.

>- I'm curious to hear about Sr. Teller's history in Ireland.
>Yes we know he had another family. Guess Gemma didn't know
>everything.

Gotta wonder if Jax finds out about his sister tho and how it affects him and how he views his pops.

>- So Samcrow Ireland are some shady bastards. I can't tell who
>is on there side besides ole girl.

Man, I think the Ashby's are the only people SamCro can trust in Ireland. Liam and McGee are both bitches for siding with Jimmy O.

I'm hoping Chibs kicks some major ass and kill Jimmy O himself. Hell, a lot is at stake for Chibs so I gotta figure he plays a major role.

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I'm thinking Jimmy is blackmailing the crew in Ireland somehow. They do what he wants, but every now and then, the MC pres over there shows that emotion of secretly hating himself for what he's doing.

Self-preservation is a powerful movement.

and *edit* I'm pretty sure the Belfast Sons are gonna show a different face to the Redwood OGs once they arrive. They are gonna be caught in the middle of this war, but once they see SamCro show up with the balls and the will, I don't think it's going to be as hard for them to ally up with their old kin.

That fear people have of the IRA is not irrational.

they've been beating the shit out of him and humiliating him for four weeks straight. you gotta know he ain't just gonna go away

>- Sam Crow and the Mayan's are gonna regret not killing that
>dude

I wonder what happens to the Bastards MC now that they got their retaliation or if they'd play any role at all down the stretch esp with SamCro all the way in Ireland.

Yippeekayay, motherfucker.

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>- Tara can't catch a break at all that she's about the get
>jacked up. 2 weeks with 50% of Sm Crow gone to Ireland is
>gonna seem like forever. No protection. Bet she loses that
>baby. The club itself and the way Clay runs it this is the
>biggest pack of leeches. She won't have a life soon at all.

Agreed, I just hope whatever happens pushes her and Jax together for good. The push and pull dynamic has been going on for 2.5 seasons now, let's resolve it. We all know Tara's here for good. I'd like to see more of the Tara we got a little of last year when she had fully given in to the club lifestyle.

Although she did catch one break this episode from her boss during the escape and it was great. Loved they way the handled that.


>- I'm curious to hear about Sr. Teller's history in Ireland.
>Yes we know he had another family. Guess Gemma didn't know
>everything.

I really hope there is more to it than that. We all figured this out weeks ago yet it was handled like a big reveal. Gemma getting sick -> Maureen getting the pitcture -> the camera focusing on the writing on the back of the picture just in case it wasn't painfully obvious enough already.

Yes, Kurt, we get it. We actually got it three weeks ago. Let's get to Ireland already.

>I really hope there is more to it than that. We all figured
>this out weeks ago yet it was handled like a big reveal.
>Gemma getting sick -> Maureen getting the pitcture -> the
>camera focusing on the writing on the back of the picture just
>in case it wasn't painfully obvious enough already.
>
>Yes, Kurt, we get it. We actually got it three weeks ago.
>Let's get to Ireland already.

don't forget, she didn't just get the picture. she opened up the box. the BOX!

like all the doom and gloom isn't just about Jax kid, right?

Read some of my other posts in here, it's pretty much broken down.

That whole town -- at least -- lives in fear of the IRA, whom you know through the face of Jimmy.

*edit* But you basically asking for a history of Ireland under the IRA, which is way too complicated for an OKP post:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organisations_known_as_the_Irish_Republican_Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gangs_from_Sons_of_Anarchy#True_IRA

It also happened to be where the DVR froze at the end of the recording during the replay.

Nice way to book-end a show.

yes...finally tv shows some female booty for once.

like goddamn this white girl actually has some cheeks
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she really had it coming and put everyone in an awkward spot...plus, the Doc is her friend too...

The one thing keeping me out of the loop a little bit is not having a clue wtf these guys are saying half the time...

I like the way this season is headed... I do have beef with this one guy who they keep humiliating coming back for more and more, at what point is this dude happy they havent killed him yet and fall back??!? Not to mention, you'd think his own crew would off him for snitchin on his boy and getting him killed like that... that whole shit is strange and pointless to me... hasn't Tara been thru enough?

yeah i hate the way that storyline is developping...they should've just offed him, or atleast not continued to talk business infront of him like that...that was retarded. they should know they are somewhat vulnerable when they all leave too so some kinda precaution should be taken to look out for the others being left behind...like Tara. i'm surprised he didnt atleast ask Piney to keep an eye on her or something.

before the season ends.

she was buggin when she said "you and i both know nothing's going to happen to me"...but they can't kill her and would they really have her get raped like Gemma? i dont know, i'm thinking she's going to lose the baby though.

it'd be a crazy move on their part to have her killed though. also, have they completely abandoned the angle of Jax reforming the club?

>also, have they completely abandoned the angle of Jax
>reforming the club?

u can see them setting that up...u can already see them setting up next season with the shit happening back in Charming. which is when they will probably get back to that story line with Jax vs Step Dad....especially when we find out Jack Teller's past and whatever else they are hiding out in Ireland

This payoff had better pay off.
This is the worst season of Sons so far.

hopefully, we start getting a bit more payoffs soon, rather than more set ups.

but this season still doesnt suck...

S1E8 - Kohn is shot, Jax holds Abel for the first time
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S2E8 - Crazy tensions over Donna's shooting finally erupt, Chibs just got blown up and we're introduced to Fiona
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It's more interesting to see the advances in the overall story.
S1E8 - Jax &Tara fuck over a corpse, S3E8 she's booking an abortion
S2E8 - we meet Fiona, S3E8 we meet the daughter

There's more, but the point is, the meticulous attention to the overall story is making the weekly viewing experience suffer IMHO.
Gemma ain't smashing any plates.

I'm still in though, and I anticipate this pace will lead to a more satisfying S4 overall.

i've been weary of the whole abel storyline but i'm really liking belfast so far. they just got there, and there's a ton of shit going on. what were you expecting?

the only thing i want out of the way sooner than later is the john teller stuff. i'm at the point where i don't really care what "the truth about john teller" is

this aint the worst season. the first season wasn't very good until the second half

that she was into jax, and decided to bounce upstairs for some dick

the whole thing was weird.

i'd like to think the moms would keep those two away from each other to avoid ANY trouble...but rini's mom is upstairs gettin drunk, and Gemma acts like she horny after seeing a weird spark between jax and his sister....the priest seemed more interested in separating the "siblings" than their mothers...

he basically said "i got yo baby, i can get him anytime, but you gotta do this for me first" and Jax is all "okie dokie!"...what da hell?!

anyone else catch what Blonde Irish mom said, something like "I could only imagine how it feels to have your child taken away..." in such a sarcastic manner while the camera pans over Gemma. I thought that was interesting.

That would be crazy.

she could have meant Jax but it sure sounded like she meant Trinity

Trinity said she's 22, and Jax is 30ish. so unless the truth about John T is that he was a pederast...

John said i am going back home and I am taking my son

Not sure why some of y'all are bitching ... it seems like we're finally getting somewhere

"We ain't in Charming no more" ......Ireland ain't no joke and the Sons are going to have to bring their A game

lol @ dude just laying down the colors and bouncing

What was the deal with the couple holding Able at the end? Why would the priest allow him to be adopted? If Jax does his bidding not being able to pay off would bring some serious wrath down on his ass.
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but other than that, i don't know what to think

and agreed. i don't get the complaints about this one.

>What was the deal with the couple holding Able at the end? Why
>would the priest allow him to be adopted? If Jax does his
>bidding not being able to pay off would bring some serious
>wrath down on his ass.

also, i agree with the nice twist on the opening theme.

nice touch

love that celtic rock lol

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>Shame there was no Pogues though.
>

>love that celtic rock lol

makes me wish i was irish. just like the show makes me wanna go join the mongols or some shit. i'd probably go out like that prospect tho lol

>>love that celtic rock lol


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>
>makes me wish i was irish. just like the show makes me wanna
>go join the mongols or some shit. i'd probably go out like
>that prospect tho lol




me too bro, everything just sounds cooler with bagpipes and accordions behind it. I'd like to hear Irish hip hop for that reason

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It felt like the plot wasn't going anywhere with Abel and the Ireland stuff, but it all makes sense now, they were building us up for SAMCRO to travel overseas. I'm interested to learn more about the history of the club and Ireland, and of course about Jax potentially doing his half-sister lol



I love this show for the random northern California towns they shout out, its actually weird as hell to hear Stockton, Modesto, Tracy, Lodi etc getting talked about regularly on a national tv show lol

Kinda just realized that I had assumed it is, but I wasn't totally sure.

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they made it up

I heard that they had wanted to use Lodi or some other town but couldn't get licensing


looking at the backgrounds in the scenes, it is clearly somewhere in San Joaquin or Stanislaus county (central valley,Ca)

>I heard that they had wanted to use Lodi or some other town
>but couldn't get licensing

never heard of that before

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>I love this show for the random northern California towns they
>shout out, its actually weird as hell to hear Stockton,
>Modesto, Tracy, Lodi etc getting talked about regularly on a
>national tv show lol

Like they'll be rolling from Lodi to Stockton and going through hills and shit... I'm like damn those cities are like 2 miles apart and both flat as fuck.


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>Like they'll be rolling from Lodi to Stockton and going
>through hills and shit... I'm like damn those cities are like
>2 miles apart and both flat as fuck.

Jimmy aint neither

lol @ pending incest

this shit is heatrock

during the opening montage

hmmm?

at first i thought it was the leader of SAMBEL but then he ended up being with SAMCRO so i have no idea either

...can't wait to see next week's episode. Tig and Alverez are really gonna have to step their game up.

For a show that has a fair amount of action, this relaly is a slow burn and it keeps you waiting soometimes for those big payoffs, but they make it work when they pack episodes like this with a ton of stuff.

Also, Jemma really needs to get on the whole telling Jax, 'don't get in that, she's your sister' thing. I don't even care if that's not her place to do it without Maureen's explicit permission...that's something you do without permission.

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Son if Jax and Trinity smash that'd be the sickest thing ever. And Father Ashby needs to get popped fast. I mean he's doing everyone a solid by trying to get Jimmy-O popped but all this shit the club is going through is because of that fucker.

Also, I wanna find out who Tara's boss used to run with and what's really good on who's buying property in Charming.

Only two more Ireland set episodes then it's back to Charming for the last two episodes of the season.

and I wonder if Tara's boss ran with Ashby's crew

unlesss they just make up another club to introduce use to which is possible

At this point I want Hale to get popped too.

also, this felt like the quickest episode all season.


I predict the priest will get popped, Jimmy O survives somehow to come into play again later.

Also agree that Gemma shoulda said something to Jax, like two episodes ago cuz that looks like its heading down the wrong road between those to half-siblings.

I watched it again on the DVR and paused it. Said something like I love rock n' roll or rock n' roll I love somebody...some shit like that. I don't think it's affiliated with an MC or gang.

I'm not certain though.

in the middle and "My love" on the bottom

no gang affiliation, just kind of a generic biker chick tat. but to let everyone know she lived the life at one time

She slipped that right smooth as fuck lol
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She got me when she put aim on Jimmy's brother with a second gun without even a stutter step. She just smooth-called that shit.

something like "there's only three women i've ever been afraid of. my mother, my 3rd grade english teacher, and that crazy bitch"

nice...i dont remember that line but it makes sense hearing it now. thats awesome. Chibbs got the baddest chick of 'em all i guess.

Fi bobbed and weaved liked a fucking prize fighter.

...if that was me I would've popped Father Ashby is the head got my boy the started figuring out a way to extract Jimmy-O and bounce. Can't believe he's gonna let Ashby play games with his mind.

Shame on Gemma for not telling Jax sooner about his sister. Only one who needs to be smashing that is me.

Chibs should SAMBEL...just a thought.

Here's the synopsis for the next three episodes:
3x11: "Bainne"
While the club's on a man hunt, Jax faces the toughest decision of his life.

3x12: "June Wedding"
A SAMCRO family member is held hostage and Jax must choose between revenge and the good of Charming.

3x13: "NS"
SAMCRO looks to heal old wounds while the ATF and the Russians stand in the way.

From the looks of it Abel and Tara will be lost for good.
Gotta say thought really digging it since last week.

It made no sense that Jax was playing along with the priest's mind games in the first place telling him he had to kill Jimmy first, but this is just beyond anything based in reality.

I mean Jax is really thinking about giving up his kid because of what this priest said. I don't care how he feels about his way of life and the sons, there's no way he's just gonna give up his kid.

This season has been a step back from last year. This season long arc on trying to get Abel back is dragging out so long. I feel like Sutter's just using the same formula as the previous 2 season, with just a few names switched up.

Oh, and Tara being kidnapped/having her ass beat is getting pretty old, pretty sure it's happened every season now.

I'm holding out hope that my opinion changes in the last 2 episodes but if it goes the way I think it goes (Jax wrestles with b.s. decision if he wants to get Abel back and eventually gets him, then everyone boards a plane back to Charming and magically a deal is worked out where charges against Gemma are dropped and all the guys have to go to jail for 6 months or whatever the time difference is from end of s3 to beg of s4) I'm going to be really disappointed. It feels like everything that's been told in the 10 episodes this season could have been consolidated to 2-3 episodes.

Though I'm not Lost levels of frustrated and I'm not on the verge of bailing, but I am disappointed in this season.

they are going back to season 1 where Jax and John Teller's thoughts on the lifestyle show up again...i mean Jax debating giving up his son for adoption for a better life is no different than when a young mother does the same thing..look at how much has happened in Abel's life and he's not even walking or talking yet...

I thought it was a return to the original theme.... i loved it
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same here...up until this ep i was wondering how they were planning on getting back to that and now it makes sense. Abel's kidnapping is was reunited him with Clay and made him forget what his original mission was to begin with so now its brought it all back into the fold for him...curious to see how he plays it now.

It was kinda funny how the Priest just tossed Jax off of him...

I disagree with the post above and think it really is possible that he gives his kid up... the line about all the violence that went down over the past 3 days I think really rung in his head... not to mention for all we know he finds out about Tara b4 he makes this decision and just figures enough is enough... who knows... I think he will bring Abel home though regardless...

They took the Jax and his sister thing too far... they had like 5 other opportunities to step in and say something and didn't... weird... other note, im kinda finding his sister hot lately... the acting from her and her mom have been great too

There was no way Tig and them couldnt go to the police chief to try and get Tara back? Everything about this storyline with dude (can't think of his name) going at the Sons now asking for 250K has been W A C K... he is arguably the worst villain in tv history... only plus is his girl is bangin

Odd how they have slowly tarnished Jax's father too... I remember the first part of season 1 thinking it was being set-up that Clay and Gema offed Jax's dad to be together and lead the gang... guess not



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I agree on the Priest thing. Jax is always beastin' guys, then this priest just tosses him like a rag doll. Then again, the priest has some bulk to him.

I'm also disappointed in the father storyline. There has been so many glances exchanged and hints dropped that something shady went down in regards to Teller's death, but it seems all we're getting is the second family.

that shit was too funny to take seriously

>They took the Jax and his sister thing too far... they had
>like 5 other opportunities to step in and say something and
>didn't... weird...

yeah, it never made sense. esp since it was so obvious to gemma where it was going. lol@ "tig territory"


other note, im kinda finding his sister hot
>lately... the acting from her and her mom have been great too

agreed on both counts

> he is arguably the worst villain
>in tv history... only plus is his girl is bangin

the whole thing was pretty silly how they set his character up too. dude got humiliated for a month of episodes straight, so it was obvious as hell he was gonna pull some shit. alvarez faking his death? terrible lol.

>Odd how they have slowly tarnished Jax's father too... I
>remember the first part of season 1 thinking it was being
>set-up that Clay and Gema offed Jax's dad to be together and
>lead the gang... guess not

i figured the same thing that they set him up. i still don't get what the "stones will get unturned in belfast" thing is about, since when they said that, neither clay or gemma knew about trinity.

Sutter said that they would delve into the show's backstory and the problem is Sutter doesn't like flashbacks which would really help the Belfast storyline by showing how the SAMBEL got started, John's time in Belfast which they've danced around, and McGee's time in Charming and the First 9 in general. If they did this I think the present day Belfast story would hit alot harder and McGee's death would've had more impact. For founding member he was written like a bitch and underused.

i figured he'd either redeem himself, or at least come up with a rationale for doing what he was doing. like maybe his family being in danger or something. instead it was "ehh this biker shit is old.. i need money." wishy-washy fucker trying to please everyone. you're right. they didn't give us much reason to be affected by clay offing him.

...,helped shaped it, and had family and friends in it that was a weak ass reason for betraying them.

now, not so much

and i've really enjoyed the belfast stuff, but now that it's going back to abel, i'm losing interest again. the previews next for next week (jax searching for abel with his new "loving family") looked like the trailer for a bad movie.

the charming storyline (especially in this episode) has been really bad.

dude's got the perfect nickname. fuckin' psycho lol

yeah that was my favorite part of the episode...i busted out laughing when i saw that sick bastard smiling like that. in the first Ep in Dublin, all Jax had to do was say his name and he was ready to off the cop...he's a great character. im glad he's become a regular.

...someone's gonna get fucked in these next two episodes just not sure who.

i had to dl this week's ep cause my DVR sucks balls...so i didnt get to see the preview at the end.

jax giving up abel
jimmy offing the new parents
jimmy offing the torturer guy
priest giving up his life
the charming storyline coming around
more evidence proving gemma and clay had jt whacked

there was almost too much going on to process

Priest, his two songs, lawd. Belfast was steady losing this show

Priest, his two songs, lawd. Belfast was steady losing this show

>more evidence proving gemma and clay had jt whacked


wait, what?

i must have missed the evidence. is this a popular theory that gemma and clay took out teller?

hinted at a growing bond between Gemma and Clay and a fissure between them and Jax' daddy. Nothing explicit, but Gemma and Clay have had ominous conversations where "something" can never be mentioned.

is quite possibly the most gangster ass shit i done ever seen a woman do.

seriously i think my dick moved. lol.

my dick moved even more afterwards when my girl's response to it was "i wanna be just like her when i'm older." haha.


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>my dick moved even more afterwards when my girl's response to
>it was "i wanna be just like her when i'm older." haha.

What the blood claaat ???

even when he seems to have found some kind of peace there is some new shit brewin in the background...

he JUST found out tara is pregnant and got his son back...at one point he'd tried to give up BOTH for the greater good only for it to backfire horribly....TWICE, in the same day, on 2 different continents!?!?!?!?

these fools rolled through there like Team America, fucked everything up, and left

"hey Maureen, sorry we offed your old man"

"ah, no worries, have a safe trip home!"

They leave a trail of shit everywhere they go. Personally I think it's bout time Tara died, she's kinda boring and doesn't really add much (well except the fact that she's pregnant now). But if Sutter is truly using Hamlet as an outline, she'll die soon enough.

that scene when jax is stalking them, which i thought was really well done, until they give the homeless guy money, then it became almost comical. jesus sutter, we get it.. they're good people. i wonder if he cut the next part out where they helped an old lady across the street

but they figured it was too much

making abel smile

as they walked, they turned the black and white scene to color

Anyways Jax fucked over the town for some dumbass revenge. Also, it looks like he's being booted out of the club next week. And fuck Tig for not voting in Kozick.

I'm not really into any of these storylines too heavy...

Stahl pulling a Vic Mackey... I really hope all these lies catch-up to her at some point...

Lem not getting the vote in over a dog?

Why have they turned Opie into such a pussy this year? He had his one manly moment of kicking ass at his girls porn party but beyond that, the long gay hugs, going to Gemma about his female problems... It's like Sutter walks the line a little too much trying to make these guys likable humans and d-bag gangsters

Also, Jax's lack of urgency again bothers me, like him trying to bang his sister while his son was missing... he's joking with Stahl while his girl is kidnapped by some psychopath instead of tearing through shit trying to find her

I don't know, probably too much complaining but last night just didnt do shit for me, tho next week looks crazy

This show is officially over.

yet.

but c'mon, a fkin dog?!?!

that's enough to ruin the show for you?

All that animosity, an entire season spent building up Tig hating this guy just for a joke? Even the scene they revealed it in had a serious tone.

i hate that whole storyline anyway...their whole beef has been kinda corny so im glad its out now and hopefully they'll move on from that nonsense.

a true jump the shark moment

hell's angels founder. probably the dude they're trying to set up the meet with Otto.

also, looks like things are gonna end on a Jax as a rat note.

my dog means the world to me, but that was just bad. so bad it made me forget there were two grown bikers having a heart to heart on a swing.

> so bad it
>made me forget there were two grown bikers having a heart to
>heart on a swing.

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now this?

it's as reliable as the credits

they went out hardcore tonight. Didn't love all the season, but I loved the ending. And it felt awesome to see Stahl get it from Opie and Jimmy get it from Chibbs.

Wonder if they'll fast forward the next season so it's right about when the club is getting out. I'd rather see that than a season of prison.

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I'm a lurker that had to say something! DAMN! They had me fooled! Thought for they were going to take JAX out! Can't wait for next season!

They got her dirty ass!! YES!

we'll probably see things really good for a while then they may but heads again and Tara will feel at some point she has to tell him..but i definitely think season 4 is gonna be Jax vs Clay/Mom

She'll go back and forth about whether she should tell him, Gemma will find out and try to keep her from telling him. In the end, she'll tell him, Jax will yell about it, storm out and eventually calm down once he and Opie share a loud hug.

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one of the best and definitely most rewarding season finales of any show ever


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that was a strong season ender!

they jumped back over the shark!

Sutter is going to have to tighten up the writing and character development. I get why he had to kill off Hale but that leaves a hole in the relationship between charming police and the club. Unser should have been dead by now and the whole "they beat me up and I couldn't do anything gimick" runs pretty old. Like how is he planning on selling that to the feds?

There needs to be some character development with regards to charming police next season. If its Unser alone I'm not buying it. The Belfast/Abel thing dragged so long and wasn't as tight if you compare it to last nights episode. Sutter did a good build up with the Jax/Clay tension but that all fizzled out this season and now they are super cool. How he decides to flesh out this Gemma/Clay killed Joh plotline will be interesting. Seems like Jax wants to be a G these days.

The club itself is a rag tag group of broke bammas. I don't see how they fix that.

Stahl getting offed by Opie was chillin to watch. I can't see the Feds letting that slide though.

Jax so frustrated with his character and the actor (Charlie) playing him. He seemed to lack emotion this season. have the time like he's just bored. And that whole give his kid up moment with the priest was bs.

what happens to the club if there in for 14 months. Does the new season show them in jail? or picks up after? that means jax is not around for his new kids birth. Whats Tara's character development now? What happens to Chibb's family in Ireland?
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>Sutter is going to have to tighten up the writing and
>character development. I get why he had to kill off Hale but
>that leaves a hole in the relationship between charming police
>and the club. Unser should have been dead by now and the whole
>"they beat me up and I couldn't do anything gimick" runs
>pretty old. Like how is he planning on selling that to the
>feds?

I assuming that the story will be that Jimmie killed Stahl(with the uzi he had stashed up his ass, I guess), the IRA attacked Unser and then killed Jimmie.

>There needs to be some character development with regards to
>charming police next season. If its Unser alone I'm not buying
>it. The Belfast/Abel thing dragged so long and wasn't as tight
>if you compare it to last nights episode. Sutter did a good
>build up with the Jax/Clay tension but that all fizzled out
>this season and now they are super cool. How he decides to
>flesh out this Gemma/Clay killed Joh plotline will be
>interesting. Seems like Jax wants to be a G these days.

I figured Unser leaving his badge and his gun on the desk was his way of quitting. I thought someone else was being brought in to run Charming, that's why they needed that Mexican dude to snitch on Hale. I don't remember the details though, I wanna say it was the county sheriff's office or something.


>The club itself is a rag tag group of broke bammas. I don't
>see how they fix that.

The new gun deal with the IRA should bring them in some money.

>I figured Unser leaving his badge and his gun on the desk was
>his way of quitting. I thought someone else was being brought
>in to run Charming, that's why they needed that Mexican dude
>to snitch on Hale. I don't remember the details though, I
>wanna say it was the county sheriff's office or something.
>
>
>The new gun deal with the IRA should bring them in some
>money.

I think Sutter might be of the mind that some of these characters have already been established. It's been self-referenced on the show at least once with "Tig territory."

Whether or not that is a safe bet on his part is up for discussion, though. I'm probably more with you after this season, there wasn't much real growth, just everyone becoming more MC-minded.

>Stahl getting offed by Opie was chillin to watch.

It damn sure was. Stayed with me for a bit.

I'm sorry that shit had way to many variables to have them set up a chain of events like that. I didn't have a problem with the season as a whole but the way that shit wrapped up I thought I was watching an episode of CHiPs
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It was emotionally satisfying, but not logical at all. It was just way too nice and neat, esp considering there was no hint of any of this being planned throughout the season. I'm sure the writers had it planned, but the way it played out felt like they pulled it out of their ass, IMO.

Not to mention $5 million in counterfeit practically falls out of the sky the day they are told they need $2 million to pull this off. C'mon.

>Not to mention $5 million in counterfeit practically falls out
>of the sky the day they are told they need $2 million to pull
>this off. C'mon.

still...good fucking episode

this was never the most realistic show in the world, so to see them go out on a neatly wrapped high note for once is awesome

after somewhat of a lackluster season it reminded me of how great the show could be. they had me completely fooled, even though at one point i even thought that maybe Jax had told the club he snitched but then i was wondering how he managed to get to play along...then i was sure he didnt and that next season would be all about him being in exile...little did i know. honestly, i havent seen an episode of anything that had me guessing quite like this in a while...the brilliance of three pronged plan reminded me of how Vick and the Strike team used to quadruple cross everybody to come out on top...i always loved that about Shield and Sutter brought that into Sons in a big way with this episode...holy crap. i literally jumped up and cheered when Opie shot Stahl. damn that episode was awesome. they really should've hurt Unser a little more than that though...one punch to the face, i mean, come on. i thought they would atleast graze him with a bullet to the arm.

one thing i am wondering though is how will they do the short time without the deal? Opie ripped up both folders if i'm not mistaken. how are they not facing 15 years?

the deal folder was given to their lawyer before they were taken away in cuffs.

She definitely uglied it up for Deadwood.

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Holy Shit!

that went away pretty fast though. killed her the way donna got got. nice.

re: donna getting shot?

I can't recall if he did or not ...

...which i STILL don't get at all...

i mean he's immersed in that culture so somehow he justified it to himself that if one of them snitched he'd understand if they had to get got but still...it just kinda went away. i figured at first he was biding his time until him and Jax could figure something out but all that got pushed to the side by Abel's kidnapping. i think that may have been the worst thing that happened to the show.

it really was Stahl's fault though so him redirecting his anger towards her makes sense...but completely forgiving Clay and Tig doesnt. maybe Tig but not Clay.

i'm not sure how their time deal works out. will they be in for 18 months (half the 3years), or will they get out sooner on technicalities?

guess they're at war with the russians now. i hope they don't assume ALL the money's fake and toss it lol

Zobelle?? will we ever see him again?

Georgie? (Tom Arnold) who killed Luanne, still in the wind

We've got Hale taking over the town as mayor now, and Charming PD dismantled

Then of course when Jax finds out Clay and Gemma murked JT

no other reason to keep that book open


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...they didn't have much to do, but dammit, they did a great job.....they watched ole girl's back, delivered the letters, let the rest of the crew know the deal had gone down, etc...and they did it all without questioning shit or lingering around after doing what they were told....ole boy handed gemma the letter, asked if jax's lady was there, and SPLIT....they don't be bullshittin on a job...you gotta like guys like that...

...the other dude went out like a bitch....i get that you might not be down with all the violence, but when you accept resposibility to protect an old man and you sit there HIDIN, watching him get his ass kicked (and this leads to his death), you'ze a bitch ass....

they mentioned something about wanting to show what actual probies would be like this season. the last one ended up being a main character and comic relief so they wanted to show how real probies are basically second class citizens that just handle shit for the club, no questions asked like you said. i didnt like them at first but i agree...it worked. although its hard to imagine those two guys, in particular, as anything but probies.

one thing i did like about the one that died was how he was always down for whatever...if they told him to knock someone out he would without hesitation...he was bout it for a lil dude. i wish they would've just patched him in and let him stay on the show.

>one thing i did like about the one that died was how he was
>always down for whatever...if they told him to knock someone
>out he would without hesitation...he was bout it for a lil
>dude. i wish they would've just patched him in and let him
>stay on the show.

me too...i liked the character and the actor...

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Once by myself and then again with the Mrs.

Glad I got S1 on DVD for christmas, I hadn't even ever heard anything about this show and my vacation got totally taken over by it lol Haven't gotten consumed by a show like this since THE WIRE

I couldn't download the eps fast enough to watch em all! I was back and forth from my computer to my TV transferring to a flash drive to watch on my WDTV.

Excellent show, wish I didnt have to wait almost another year for new eps!