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172486, whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by Von Pea, Tue Apr-29-08 01:11 AM
its "i will not apologize" for me right now...that porn dude rode the hell out of that beat.

these words are small and red.
172490, criminal
Posted by meechelle, Tue Apr-29-08 01:24 AM
but that may change after a few spins.....
172503, RE: criminal
Posted by Power In Numbers, Tue Apr-29-08 05:30 AM

criminal and i will not apologize are both 5 star ratings in my itunes. the rhymes on this album are so nice
172537, Criminal, The Show, I Will Not Apologize, Singing Man, Rising Up
Posted by BrainChild, Tue Apr-29-08 09:44 AM
all fucking fantastic.

this album hits harder and faster than Game Theory.
172577, RE:^^^^^ criminal^^^^^^^^^
Posted by soundmandave, Tue Apr-29-08 12:08 PM
with I Will Not Apologize 2nd
3rd Rising Up
4th Rising Down
75 Bars
Get Busy
Birthday Girl

and I can't groove to any of the other songs
172624, RE: criminal
Posted by Tiggerific, Tue Apr-29-08 02:39 PM
or Rising up. It's a toss up. One moment it's Rising Up, another it Criminal. But, at this moment, right now, it's Criminal.

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"

-Martin Luther King Jr.
173161, criminal is in solitary confinement in my head rt now.....
Posted by StirsDsoul, Fri May-02-08 05:55 PM
173175, yes indeed
Posted by ATLiens79, Fri May-02-08 08:24 PM
172493, i cant help it or criminal
Posted by HighVoltage, Tue Apr-29-08 02:23 AM
172504, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by kyleidoscope, Tue Apr-29-08 05:44 AM
criminal or I can't help it....get busy maybe aswell
172508, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by Patrik, Tue Apr-29-08 06:19 AM
Criminal / Rising Down / 75 Bars

And honestly I don't think Birthday Girl was as bad as people made it out to be.
172514, Singing Man.
Posted by Anfernee, Tue Apr-29-08 07:03 AM
Shout-out to "Unwritten", and the switch on "I Can't Help It" though.
172535, true chit chat
Posted by luckyjunior, Tue Apr-29-08 09:35 AM
172629, This is another one I really, really like
Posted by Midtown Records, Tue Apr-29-08 02:50 PM
Between "Rising Down," "I Will Not Apologize" and "Singing Man" I can't decide which one I like the best.
173481, Singing Man. -co-sign-
Posted by okpdan, Mon May-05-08 06:45 PM
172516, criminl and i will not apologize
Posted by Iltigo, Tue Apr-29-08 07:36 AM
*waiting on liner notes*
172522, unwritten & rising up
Posted by RainMuzik, Tue Apr-29-08 08:28 AM

that guitar solo on the grand return tho.. damn..

173157, RE: unwritten & rising up
Posted by wally, Fri May-02-08 05:47 PM
I concur.

172534, "criminal"
Posted by Robert, Tue Apr-29-08 09:34 AM
172543, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by PeaceLoveMusiq1, Tue Apr-29-08 10:06 AM
"I Will Not Apologize" & "Singing Man" are my current favorites .... @15 is nice too ... loving the entire album!
172544, Favorites...
Posted by Epsilonpro, Tue Apr-29-08 10:06 AM
The Show- Beat is bangin'... every joint that has more than 1 BT verse is that shit lol.

Rising Up- This is gonna be my joint ALLLLL Summer.

Get Busy- Raw shit... classic post-TFA Roots type...

Lost Desire- When I hear Malik B, I'm reminded of how fuckin' ill dude is.

Von- I can't fuck with that first verse on "I Will Not Apologize". I cringe when I hear that shit lol... reminds me of some Lil Wayne shit. BT's third verse on that joint is live as fuck though.

Roots albums are wild though. Next week my list of favorites will be totally different. The only constants will be Rising Up and Get Busy.
172632, RE: Favorites...
Posted by Power In Numbers, Tue Apr-29-08 02:55 PM
yeah dude i was just thinking the same thing about malik b. its great how he's back on the albums
172550, i can't help it
Posted by illeagle, Tue Apr-29-08 10:33 AM
it's just got that murkiness and p.o.r.n.'s verse is the best on the album imo...and i love the song's structure
173203, RE: i can't help it
Posted by L.E.S., Sat May-03-08 12:54 AM
>it's just got that murkiness and p.o.r.n.'s verse is the best
>on the album imo...and i love the song's structure

yeah that joint is insane... P.O.R.N. came with the darkest moment of the album with his verse.. like some old school Mobb shit..
172552, Criminal & Rising Up
Posted by kay13, Tue Apr-29-08 10:40 AM
shit this joint is mos def Roots' most complex record to date. Like Quest said somewhere on the board he makes music not beats. and this record proves his words.

i copped the CD from the HMV store in Hong Kong and Birthday Girl is on it too. but it's not the last track cuz there's an outro titled Wanne-iCal after BG. I wonder if the US release has this too?

Currently Playing:

Athlete- Tourist
Asheru- Insomnia
Deerhoof- Friend Opportunity
Miho- Drop By Drop
The Roots- Organix
172555, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by a_brother_named_george, Tue Apr-29-08 10:56 AM
>its "i will not apologize" for me right now...that porn dude
>rode the hell out of that beat.

That mu'fucka had me checking to see who was spitting cause i didn't look at the tracklist before playing. He destroyed that shit delightfully.

and to answer your question...

I Will Not Apologize and Unwritten are my faves thus far.


<---- Respect the Ro... My queen is killing 'em!!!

I'm on my Wayne Campbell shit "She will be mine, oh yes, she will be mine!!!"

172609, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by Ninja Militia, Tue Apr-29-08 01:48 PM
Why does it sound like Talib on the hook for "I will not apologize"?

Is that porn?
172622, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by Depiktion, Tue Apr-29-08 02:35 PM
That is Kweli on the hook.
172557, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by Blak_Sambo, Tue Apr-29-08 11:01 AM
"Singer Man"

172562, more than one
Posted by gravity508, Tue Apr-29-08 11:16 AM
Singing man
I will not apologize
lost desire..

fuck...this whole joint is a fave...
172590, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by desmondo66, Tue Apr-29-08 01:11 PM
from the UK and in no particular order

5. 75 BARS

172616, Criminal is song of the year so far....
Posted by Messiah4976, Tue Apr-29-08 02:14 PM
...and Singing Man followed by I Will Not Apologize then Rising Up and The Show.....in time this will be their best album ever!

Sonically the shit is just flawless....

Transition from @15 to 75 Bars=greatest transition in hip hop EVER!

172625, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by col_trane_, Tue Apr-29-08 02:42 PM
I Can't Help It!
although not too far behind is
I Will Not Apologize.
172627, "I Will Not Apologize" is the shit
Posted by Midtown Records, Tue Apr-29-08 02:46 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else think of Busta Rhymes a little bit when listening to Porn's verse? I must say though, I could listen to "Rising Down" (the title track) all day long. That shit is so hard!!!
172948, hell yeah. killin it wit that little Peter Tosh-like guitar riff
Posted by hardware, Thu May-01-08 02:54 AM
172641, Rising up. Shit sounds classic to me.
Posted by Servo, Tue Apr-29-08 03:34 PM
172679, RE: Rising up. Shit sounds classic to me.
Posted by keste, Tue Apr-29-08 05:38 PM
Get Busy
Rising Down *They always uP it on the a title track.

more to come

172678, I dunno...
Posted by elandyo, Tue Apr-29-08 05:37 PM
I'm not really feeling criminal the last verse is just so out of place with the roots, it sounds like a Jay-Z track. But I will not apologize is fire.
172681, Unwritten
Posted by chillinCHiEF, Tue Apr-29-08 05:42 PM
This is the best song I've heard in a minute.

Hey OKP, help me raise funds to fight MS!:

Philly, check this out:
175949, same
Posted by no great pretender, Wed Jun-18-08 02:03 AM
any info on that track in particular?
Posted by , Tue Apr-29-08 05:47 PM



are you questioning my fanhood?
Posted by nicknice, Tue Apr-29-08 09:15 PM
hopefully they make sure to throw the cookie in there for you too.
172784, I laughed
Posted by BrklynzFinestPR, Wed Apr-30-08 09:38 AM
172880, lol
Posted by HighVoltage, Wed Apr-30-08 06:29 PM
172729, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by circa 88, Tue Apr-29-08 09:55 PM
Pow Wow and @15/75 Bars!!!

to hear Blackthought @15 tho...what's fucking with that?

I've only listened to the album 4 times so far tho'
my favorite is bound to change, except for Pow Wow...that ish is crazy
172730, Apologize
Posted by acervin, Tue Apr-29-08 09:56 PM
There is nobody else...and I mean nobody...who can take some Fela and make it sound better than the original.
172758, i will not apologize
Posted by shockzilla, Wed Apr-30-08 04:41 AM
i can't get it out of my head.
172775, Singing Man and Rising Up
Posted by furtim_infesto, Wed Apr-30-08 08:37 AM
173299, These are my picks.
Posted by MistressB, Sun May-04-08 09:15 AM
Singing Man is incredible all around, and everytime I hear Rising Up I just wanna jump outta my skin.
172778, unwritten is a really nice track
Posted by gwycliff, Wed Apr-30-08 08:59 AM
criminal is hot too. i'd probably be all over get busy if i hadn't played the hell out of it before the album dropped.
176954, RE: unwritten is a really nice track
Posted by davepstein, Mon Jul-21-08 04:28 PM
^^^^^^^ True and quite possibly the nicest.

David - http://playcrayon.blogspot.com
172785, Singing Man is just hauntingly beautiful...
Posted by BrklynzFinestPR, Wed Apr-30-08 09:48 AM
I cant even stress how on point those verses are!

My other early favorites:
Rising Up
Rising Down
Get Busy
I Cant Help It
75 Bars
The Show

Fuggit, the whole damn album is on point!
175714, Wow Lost Desire has just took over my Top Spot (At least for the Summer)
Posted by BrklynzFinestPR, Wed Jun-11-08 03:17 PM
And it was not even on my original list. That joint is rediculous!
172787, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by ToddThaGod, Wed Apr-30-08 09:50 AM
i will not apologize and criminal are my two fav as of right now, but i guarantee that I will like a few more better than those in a day or so
172815, Criminal is
Posted by ClizVA, Wed Apr-30-08 11:37 AM
growing on me fast...I cant stop listening to it
172860, I listen to the Pow Wow and Hum Drum eight times in a row.
Posted by Raised under Reagan, Wed Apr-30-08 04:12 PM
One of the best intros I have heard in years; in any genre.
?uest out did himself and Dixpop is fuckin' out of his mind.

Yo! We REALLY need to promote this joint.

172862, Lost Desire
Posted by ummah1421, Wed Apr-30-08 04:14 PM
172865, RE: Lost Desire
Posted by djorly, Wed Apr-30-08 04:40 PM
i really like criminal
175627, fuck what you like, this Compton!
Posted by AbdulJaleel, Tue Jun-10-08 08:20 AM
175692, "and left tre orphans"
Posted by kevb, Wed Jun-11-08 07:47 AM
this and singing man are my favs.


172881, Get Busy
Posted by mykonsept, Wed Apr-30-08 06:35 PM
for now.
172884, i will not apologize should be a single...flood the market with...
Posted by justin_scott, Wed Apr-30-08 07:23 PM
stickers and what not that just says "i will not apologize." put 'em on bumbers, walls, bathrooms,etc. let ric cordero do the video.
175862, RE: Flood the market with i will not apologize
Posted by BIG-B, Sun Jun-15-08 08:42 AM
YEP Im wit cha! A gooood movement there

>stickers and what not that just says "i will not apologize."
>put 'em on bumbers, walls, bathrooms,etc. let ric cordero do
>the video.
172920, 1st?!?! .......
Posted by brotherman, Wed Apr-30-08 10:20 PM
Criminal or Rising Up...sheesh..
Rising Down is the PERFECT lead off track. Every time I play it Im like "DAMN that shit bangs!" lol

Honorable mentions go to Get Busy, Singing Man, Becoming Unwritten and for some reason I cant get "I will not Apologize" chorus outta my head today...yesterday it was the one for "Criminal" ...SO good n catchy.

Even though it has its off balance moments..its over a nice listen.

172921, I'm still all over Get Busy.
Posted by Whatever Nevermind, Wed Apr-30-08 10:25 PM
172942, I change my mind... "I Can't Help It" is the best.
Posted by Anfernee, Thu May-01-08 12:17 AM
Man, that Porno dude killed it.
172995, All of it.
Posted by Friday the 14th, Thu May-01-08 03:22 PM
Though Rising Down and I Can't Help It are especially dope. Like most though I have a ever changing list of favorites the more I listen.
I usually rock around 92 bpm. (c) Dilla
172997, I Can't Help It.
Posted by TLynnFaz, Thu May-01-08 04:07 PM
Porn killt that shit.
I love that song.
173006, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by Superfly, Thu May-01-08 04:48 PM
I will not apologize is the shit. Maybe one of my favorite Roots joints ever!!!
173015, I Can't Help It
Posted by lojack, Thu May-01-08 07:11 PM
Dope Hook.....reminds me of Stay Cool a bit.

the jack

173035, ...Nothing Sweet, Diabetic..
Posted by F_black, Thu May-01-08 09:45 PM
that line alone had me hooked on this track

but after that performance on letterman

Ill go with rising up

"...http://www.myspace.com/junyar .."
173045, @15
Posted by AbdulJaleel, Fri May-02-08 12:31 AM
how you gonna be a better rapper at 15 thn most cats in the game?
173068, Rising Down/IWNA
Posted by blue in green, Fri May-02-08 08:40 AM
On the strength of Mos' classic intro verse, which I've had running through my head since the pre-order landed. Also diggin' Not Apologize, which has a Dr. Dre meets Fela vibe.
173091, son, 2 augusts ago
Posted by Vid Santoro, Fri May-02-08 10:28 AM
im like, yo jazzy fantasy shorty CANT outdo the hook to CWNH....i heard unwritten and im looking for a dustpan to scoop my jaw up off the floor

that whole speal on how the first/last 15 minutes are most important shit was no lie...pow wow - rising down - get busy had me stomping on the floor.

75 bars is my new web...im probably gonna dedicate muuuuuch time to learning that motherfucker.

criminal is my #1 being that this is the week i got word off the sean bell verdict disaster...this hits home really well. and the flow on saigon's verse totally makes up for the difference in subject matter. his aggression keeps the !!!!!! from the previous tracks going. this album hits and dont really let up much, and even when it does it still has alot of 3-d type contrast.

rising up is my shit, yo...nuff said.

im thinking about how i can get people to get this shit. i know im gonna buy more copies when i can afford it, but till then whats the best way to spread the word?
173086, 75 Bars, Get Busy, I Can't Help It
Posted by Jahbaz Jackie Diggs, Fri May-02-08 10:15 AM
The first two are classics.

I Can't Help It is just some absolute next ish . . . the rumbling low end noise, the 80's like vocal sample chorus, the incredible deliveries, it's unlike anything I've ever heard before.
173093, Rising Up
Posted by DaKidFromHaiti, Fri May-02-08 10:56 AM
173679, thats my joint!
Posted by soulsupreme, Wed May-07-08 01:17 PM

King Kong ain't got shit on me, I train days to rip emcees (c) Common

173097, Rising Down
Posted by Amritsar, Fri May-02-08 11:37 AM
Styles P MURKED that joint
173101, I Can't Help It
Posted by HellToDaNaw, Fri May-02-08 12:01 PM
173167, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by mop532, Fri May-02-08 07:03 PM
I really Like Lost Desire, My boy questo on the chorus, and im feeling malik b on I cant help it, he kills it, but its hard for me to my pick my favortie joint.
173170, top 3: I Will Not Apologize, Get Busy & Criminal
Posted by rhymesandammo, Fri May-02-08 07:13 PM
173283, "Rising Down"
Posted by Grand_Styles, Sun May-04-08 01:45 AM
173316, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by The Slyest, Sun May-04-08 12:29 PM
1. 75 Bars
2. I will not apologize
3. Criminal
173350, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by classicmaterial, Sun May-04-08 09:06 PM
the show must go on featuring one of my favorite emcees common but the album is hot.
173419, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by Boutbidnis, Mon May-05-08 12:32 PM
Been giving the album a really good listen for a week now, and it seems to me that I may be in the minority but; Criminal is in dire need of a remix. Don't get me wrong, the poetry & subject matter is on point but i'm not feeling the track like that. The music doesn't really mesh with the message. Needs to be HARDER!
173669, Same for me
Posted by prophet j, Wed May-07-08 12:00 PM
honorable mentions = "criminal," "rising up," and "rising down"

- - - - -


peace & love
173680, All of them n/m
Posted by Friday the 14th, Wed May-07-08 01:29 PM

I usually rock around 92 bpm. (c) Dilla
Posted by okaybrazilian, Wed May-07-08 06:32 PM
i'm SO gonna cop that new t-shirt now that i've actually heard the song and love the shit outta it.
173736, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by Rootsmovement, Wed May-07-08 08:25 PM
Rising Down, I can't help it, get busy. and if that Grand Return joint was on the US release it'd be in my top 4
173748, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by chicity, Wed May-07-08 11:23 PM
Rising Up & Down!

they both are placed perfectly on the album, and have such different feels, but are dope...

whole album is ILL!!!

Love it
173774, i love the first 6 seconds of singing man
Posted by auxyray, Thu May-08-08 11:11 AM
and the rest of the song of course. Martir or masss-murderer? thats your call.
173792, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by Superwit, Thu May-08-08 02:32 PM
I love love love Rising Up - Chrisette Michelle is amazing - I also love Rising Down - but then again I am loving the entire album....
173797, Rising Down and Singing Man
Posted by icecold21, Thu May-08-08 02:48 PM
175625, I will not... follow the beat
Posted by joseph, Tue Jun-10-08 07:40 AM
Maybe I'm rhythmically challenged but am I the only one that can't follow the count once P.O.R.N. starts his verse. I get a 16th ahead (or is it behind) and don't even notice until the chorus comes back in. Somebody? I'm not sure if it's I will not apologize or singing man that wins for me. But I have to admit that P.O.R.N. is ripping it on whatever song. He's my favorite
175761, The Show, I Will Not Apologize
Posted by BIG-B, Thu Jun-12-08 03:13 PM
Is a BIG tie right now....I get da face on both of those joints
175764, I Can't Help It & Singing Man
Posted by Kahlema, Thu Jun-12-08 05:33 PM
That was hard to choose my favorites, because I like them all a lot.
175868, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by ted8low, Sun Jun-15-08 01:38 PM
can't decide between
rising down
i will not apologize
175871, Definitely Rising Down
Posted by soulhoper, Sun Jun-15-08 02:07 PM
175892, It is what it is...
Posted by Clovis, Mon Jun-16-08 10:33 AM
and it's Criminal
175895, Rising Up and The Show
Posted by OrangeMoon, Mon Jun-16-08 11:51 AM
175943, GET BUSY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Lyterall, Tue Jun-17-08 07:12 PM
ALL F*cking day. I put that on while im driving and i go crazy. Swerving in and out of traffic, cutting people off, slaming into pedestrians. I should be locked up when that songs on. If i get locked up, ?uest, imma need you to post bail.

Lyterall appears courtesy of
Midnight Heat Ent./Planet Ill

The new album "Stop Looking At Me" coming soon.... just waite and listen!
175944, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by CommonSense21, Tue Jun-17-08 08:15 PM
Rising Up.
176946, RE: whats your favorite rising down joint so far?
Posted by Cathal_91, Mon Jul-21-08 03:19 PM
maybe "GET BUSY"
176966, GET BUISY!!!!
Posted by MU, Mon Jul-21-08 07:39 PM
that's my current number 1! and has been for a while now...
176995, "Any-anywhere..."
Posted by Wordman, Tue Jul-22-08 11:56 AM
Probably the best opening verse to an album since Illmatic.
I said it.
I even posted about it.

"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams