>>blatent display of sharing
>
>you DID NOT SAY - "blatant display of SELLING UNAUTHORIZED
>COPIES OF DILLA'S SHIT"

Your right, I didn't say that... but it wasn't my point.

>
>In all honesty man, one of the main benefits of the internet
>is the free exchange of ideas and thoughts. People get turned
>on to new stuff they would have NEVER heard.

agreed. can we also agree that for every fan, there are 10 who never buy anything & all they do is download until their hearts content.


>It would be impossible to figure out how many fans Dilla has
>gained by cats hearing ANY of his stuff online.

Probably a very large number... good point.


>Radio had no love for him.
>
>He never had any huge commercial hits.

agreed... the radio had no love for Dill.

The Light - Common <---- huge

>
>The internet has done a lot for Dilla - whether you, him or
>his family ever realized it or not.

I agree with you... it has done alot for Dilla's legend... not for his fam's pocketbooks.


>PLEASE REMEMBER - it was this SAME INDUSTRY that talked shit
>to fans back in the 70's about tape trading. CASSETTE TAPE
>TRADING ART. I'm not bullshitting you. Do the research if
>you don't already know.

I know your not bullshittin... I remember that.

>
>MOW - all of THIS is going on while they raise the prices of
>music purchasing to unnecessary levels while LOWERING what
>they pay the artists who actually CREATE the music they're
>selling!

That shit ^^isn't right either^^

>Now mind you, I didn't bring all of that up to justify NOT
>buying CDs - I currently own just over 1,000 of them myself -
>90% of them are STORE-BOUGHT - and if i like something that I
>download, I then scour the internet and every store I know or
>find out about to buy an actual physical copy of said music.
>
>Am I still "violating" now?

Nah, your not... but your not the type of person I'm talkin bout. The peeps that d/l & never do anything are the ones I'm speakin on.


>I would urge you to re-think your position on file-sharing and
>what it means to those who MENTALLY benefitted from it.

My position has shifted to be more mindful of the cats out there that mean no dissrespect by file sharing... I see that.


>>I'm with your Treble... playing dilla's music to a person
>who
>>has never heard it is the BEST way to breathe life into his
>>legacy... it's the manner in which people do it is my only
>>issue.
>
>But why should you care when you're not even sure if Dilla
>himself would care? You can't speak for him - he's dead and
>gone.

>In all reality, his moms can say she may not like it, but have
>you OR shoes done ANY research to see the impact Dilla's music
>has had on the people around here?

>I don't think y'all have.
>

I dont think we have to... it's evident. There is a ALOT of love here for Dill & his influence on this entire community is obvious, even to the casual observer.

>I'm born and raised right here in Detroit man - and one of the
>things that I have hated MOST about my city is the "exclusive
>club" nature of the underground - as if, because I don't know
>"person A" or "person B" that I don't deserve the right to
>hear, know about or share the dope shit.

>The internet destroyed all of those walls, and in MY opinion,
>most of these cats who had to jock people they didn't like to
>be accepted into the "circle" are mad - why?

HA! I hear you man... but I didn't need to jock anyone to get what I got either.


>You'd be mad too wouldn't you?

Nah... Personally that type of shit doesn't bother me... who has this or that.


>Back in 2003, I started hearing a buzz on these boards about
>some record Dilla did called "Ruff Draft".
>
>By way of a file sharing program that most of us around here
>use, I downloaded it, checked it out, and was blown away!
>
>However, I decided to wait to buy it because I heard it was
>vinyl only, and at that time, I had already bought the vinyl
>of a previous release (the J-88 release) he did for the same
>label two years prior when I REALLY wanted a CD of it in the
>first place.
>
>Actually, shoes was working at Record Time at the time if I
>remember correctly - he was the one that put me up on that
>J-88 release and the remix Dilla did for Carl Craig's
>Innerzone Orchestra project, which I purchased the vinyl for.
>
>I LOVE vinyl, but for shit that I listen to regularly, I
>prefer CDs. That's just me.
>
>So anyways, when I heard Ruff Draft was vinyl only at the
>time, I waited until a CD was gonna be released so I didn't
>get got twice - cause when I sold to he J-88 vinyl to get the
>J-88 CD (which came out less than a year after the original
>vinyl release), I didn't even get my full value back.


Nah, your not violating because you had every intention of buying the music when it's release came. True fans do this... causual tourists don't. I've got Ruff Draft on vinyl... and I feel you... I have to have the vinyl cause I love it, but I also need it on cd so I can ride to it. I don't have Ruff Draft on CD & would LOOOOOVE to have it... and as I just learned a lil while ago, Stones Throw is going to re-release it on vinyl & cd... so I don't have long to wait.

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