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92636, So Jackie Chan is the new Mr. Miyagi. *smh* Posted by DawgEatah, Wed Jan-14-09 01:52 PM
Shouldn't they change it to "Kung-Fu Kid" then? It's 2009 folks, in this post-racial (j/k) world shouldn't we be over the whole "any Asian will do" attitude?
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=51924
Jackie Chan Joins The Karate Kid Remake Source: Variety January 14, 2009
Jackie Chan is in final negotiations to join the Columbia Pictures remake of The Karate Kid.
Harald Zwart will direct the film, which has been revamped as a starring vehicle for Jaden Smith.
Set in an exotic Asian locale, the new film will borrow elements of the original plot, wherein a bullied youth (Smith) learns to stand up for himself with the help of an eccentric mentor (Chan).
Chris Murphy wrote the screenplay. The film will shoot early this summer in Beijing.
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92637, Then who should it be? Posted by iboycottedimdb, Wed Jan-14-09 02:59 PM
yeah, JC is chinese, and Miyagi isn't.
But from a martial arts standpoint, I dont think its a bad choice.
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92638, KAH-RAH-TAY. Posted by FortifiedLive, Wed Jan-14-09 03:30 PM
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92639, KAH-RAY-ZAY! Too bad they couldn't cast James Brown.... Posted by iboycottedimdb, Wed Jan-14-09 03:33 PM
Is Maceo available?
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92640, MACEO BLOW YA HORN Posted by Mgmt, Fri Jan-16-09 12:43 AM
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92641, Personally, I would have liked to see Sonny Chiba or Takeshi Kitano, Posted by DawgEatah, Wed Jan-14-09 04:07 PM
There are plenty of qualified Japanese actors out there.
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92642, Takeshi Kitano as Mr. Miyagi would have been the SHIT Posted by BigWorm, Wed Jan-14-09 05:22 PM
Oh man. Now if I do see the Karate Kid remake (and I probably won't) I'll just be thinking of how much cooler it would have been with Kitano...
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92643, What about Ernie Reyes Jr as Daniel? Posted by DawgEatah, Wed Jan-14-09 05:47 PM
I think he might still be able to pull of playing a teenager. lol http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3881799680/nm0721205
If you don't remember him as a kid actor, you may remember his role in The Rundown. Dude is a master of a bunch of different martial arts.
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92644, Dayum, that nigga gotta be 35 by now...LOL! Posted by iboycottedimdb, Wed Jan-14-09 07:42 PM
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92645, Yeah but he got them good Filipino genes. lol He could pass. Posted by DawgEatah, Thu Jan-15-09 02:38 AM
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92646, Daniel-san was like 45* when he made Karate Kid lol. Posted by FortifiedLive, Thu Jan-15-09 10:08 AM
*exaggerating.
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92647, lol Posted by DawgEatah, Thu Jan-15-09 12:17 PM
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92648, sheeit, he was only bout 4-5 years younger than Pat Morita... Posted by BigWorm, Thu Jan-15-09 10:49 PM
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92649, This thread right here...this got me... Posted by baxterzeppo, Fri Oct-30-09 09:53 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
LMFAO here at work, rolling on the fucking floor. I was only chuckling until that last bit.
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92650, on a sidenote, if you saw Indy 4, did you notice him? Posted by BigWorm, Thu Jan-15-09 10:47 PM
Ernie Reyes Jr. was in there. The scene where Indy and Shia just find the crystal skull in that cemetery (I think that was the setup) and some tribal guy comes hoping out of nowhere about to whoop ass.
I didn't even recognize him, but then I saw his name listed in the credits.
I mean that movie was a hit and all, but damn, that's a long way to fall. From being the shit in the 80s to basically Stuntman X where he didn't even get a line...
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92651, I fell asleep a lot during Crystal Skull. I did not notice. But i DID... Posted by DawgEatah, Sat Jan-17-09 07:14 PM
... notice him in the Rundown. Yeah. He fell far as far as Movie Stardom. But he spent his time well, learning a bunch of different Martial Arts.
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92652, i saw him! Posted by lfresh, Thu Oct-29-09 03:07 PM
shouted it out LOL 'oh shit thats ernie!' ~~~~ When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries. ~~~~ You cannot hate people for their own good.
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92653, I CAN'T WAIT Posted by jigga, Wed Jan-14-09 04:00 PM
to not see this
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92654, RE: So Jackie Chan is the new Mr. Miyagi. *smh* Posted by jswerve386, Wed Jan-14-09 05:23 PM
KAH RATAY HEA, KARATAY HEA. KARATAY NEVA EVA HEA..
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92655, I just wish they would have gotten an Asian American to play Daniel Posted by BigWorm, Wed Jan-14-09 05:25 PM
Okay in all honesty I wish they'd gotten Tony Jaa.
Give that guy a dialogue coach or something, then say he's from Jersey.
Okay really I just want to see a movie with both Jackie Chan doing crazy acrobatics AND Tony Jaa giving a mufucka flying knee to the face.
If I can also get someone to randomly shout out "Put him in a bodybag! YEEE-AAAH!" then all the better.
Bottom line: Screw this movie. What they need to do is make Drunken Master 3. With Tony Jaa.
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92656, lol yall are wylin Posted by ShinobiShaw, Wed Jan-14-09 11:43 PM
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92657, do they have YMCA's in exotic asian locales? Posted by There Will Be duD, Thu Jan-15-09 12:11 AM
karate kid is one of those "had to be there" movies.
i mean, i guess i was there. but i never saw it until college.
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92658, i own them all on dvd. Posted by DawgEatah, Thu Jan-15-09 02:39 AM
i really only wanted to first two, but it was a box set that was cheaper than buying the first two movies individually.
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92659, and that, sir, is why i own the lost world and jurassic park III. Posted by There Will Be duD, Thu Jan-15-09 03:14 PM
to this day, I have never seen Jurassic Park III.
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92660, Wait - will you fags explain why you don't like this? Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 12:17 AM
I have heard nothing but bitching about this movie, even though it sounds like its potentially very interesting.
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92661, Mr. Miyagi and Karate = Japanese, Jackie Chan = Chinese Posted by KneelB4Me, Thu Jan-15-09 12:46 AM
I get the complaints but I don't give a shit. I won't judge until I see a trailer at least.
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92662, That makes you better than every poster in here. Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 02:09 AM
I mean, goddamnm:
the old Karate Kid = (olive)white boy the new Karate Kid = Black boy
Not sure why the changes have to end there.
I mean, for fucks sake.
>I get the complaints but I don't give a shit. I won't judge >until I see a trailer at least.
No, buddy. This is Pass the Popcorn. There is no way this board will ever accept this movie, ever. It has no way, of ever, ever, being good.
Ever.
Its probably going to be at least decent(my guess).
But this board will never, ever, admit it.
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92663, It's not that serious.... Posted by DawgEatah, Thu Jan-15-09 02:49 AM
... I mean Karate Kid isn't some cinematic masterpiece that is being tainted. But as long as American Cinema operates with the "any old Asian will do, people don't know the difference nor do they care" mentality, i'm gonna poke fun. Often.
I mean you have a Chinese man who has made a long prolific career of strictly kung-fu movies playing a Japanese Karate master.
I hope Jackie Chan's Japanese is better than his English.
P.S. you forgot the White Girl Karate Kid. lol
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92664, Wow. You guys are total dweebs. Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 10:16 AM
>... I mean Karate Kid isn't some cinematic masterpiece that >is being tainted. But as long as American Cinema operates >with the "any old Asian will do, people don't know the >difference nor do they care" mentality, i'm gonna poke fun. >Often.
Any old asian?
In the effort to sound like you're standing up for asians, you're actually pretty racist, and I say that even if you are asian.
Any old Asian?
Motherfucka they ARE CASTING JACKIE FUCKING CHAN!!!
They're not casting "any old Asian" at all.
He's one of the most TALENTED MARTIAL ARTISTS OF HIS GENERATION.
He fits in PERFECTLY in a new age movie featuring martial arts and an old guru
He brings prestige and visibility to the role.
If anything, it is giving Mr.Miyagi *MORE* props by saying that "you better get somebody GOOD and FAMOUS to play that role."
WTF are you talking about?
>I mean you have a Chinese man who has made a long prolific >career of strictly kung-fu movies playing a Japanese Karate >master.
That's because you're a nerd, because most regular people don't give a fuck if he was tae kwon do master, jujitsu master, kempo master, or if he was just nice at Street Fighter 2 on SNES.
We can barely tell the difference between the styles. We know they are martial arts.
We know that Jackie Chan is very good at them.
We know that Mr.Miyagi taught Daniel son some shit about martial arts.
Goddamn you guys are a bunch of fucking dweebs.
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92665, ^^wants Mos Def or Dre3k to play Bob Marley Posted by k_orr, Thu Jan-15-09 01:17 PM
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92666, LOL. Wasn't you the one bitching about Don Cheadle's accent? Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 01:23 PM
In Hotel Rwanda?
LOL
Mattafact it was you
Talking about "its a South African accent and not a Rwandan accent"
What a fucking dweeb, seriously
Goddamn that was one of the worst posts in the history of any board
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92667, but do you defend cheadle's accent in ocean's 11, tho? Posted by shockzilla, Thu Jan-15-09 01:28 PM
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92668, Don't remember, don't care. Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 01:35 PM
So I don't know.
But you is mad, though.
Why y'all mad at the Established?
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92669, wat? Posted by shockzilla, Thu Jan-15-09 06:31 PM
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92670, RE: It's not that serious.... Posted by a_brother_named_george, Fri Jan-16-09 09:12 AM
>... I mean Karate Kid isn't some cinematic masterpiece that >is being tainted. > >
Bite your tongue fam... that is exactly what's happening! LOL
I just don't understand why they're even calling it "The Karate Kid" when in no way is this really going to be a remake of The Karate Kid.
Jayden is what, like 10 yrs old? Is Johnny gonna be an evil babysitter that told him to go to bed without letting him watch The Suite Life of Zack and Cody? I mean, how will this even resemble the original in any way shape or form given the already blatant differences???
I just don't get why they don't write a whole new vehicle for Jayden if that's what they're aiming for. Why borrow the name of what some consider a "classic" from the 80's merely for the namesake and some hype/hate. (I'm hating... I love The Karate Kid and am dreading this "remake")
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92671, RE: It's not that serious.... Posted by DatMysteriousKid, Fri May-21-10 01:19 AM
I agree, but I'd rather see a flick with someone funny like Russell Brand or Adam Sandler than see something that isn't funny but ends up that way by default
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92672, the shit is The KARATE Kid - it's in the title. Posted by FortifiedLive, Thu Jan-15-09 10:19 AM
i kinda thought America was past all that shit about calling all martial arts "karate"? and i'm pretty sure it's a well-known fact that JC is Chinese. i'm just wondering if they're going to try to pass him off as Japanese?
i understand JC is a martial arts legend and will attract viewers, but it's just weird TO ME*.
*but if they make it work, all power to them.
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92673, No. You're a nerd. Nobody gives a fuck. Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 10:43 AM
I loved 'Karate Kid' more than any human being ever.
Why?
It had shit to do with the specifics of it being KARATE and had everything to do with the life lessons and wisdom and all that shit.
Nobody fucking cares if a Kung Fu master is playing a Karate teacher. Chan could probably fuck up 90% of the people in the world using KARATE even, so he's more than qualified.
Goddamn you guys are fucking nerds.
>i kinda thought America was past all that shit about calling >all martial arts "karate"? and i'm pretty sure it's a >well-known fact that JC is Chinese. i'm just wondering if >they're going to try to pass him off as Japanese?
Well, are they going to pass of a black kid as a white kid, are they?
What about DIFFERENT are you guys not getting? There are *differences*
Hell, even the SETTING is different.
Please, STFU
And as far as passing off ethnicities:
How many fair-skinned latinos has Al Pacino played(quite a few)? See anyone bitch about that?
No.
Why the double standard here?
Oh, no reason for a double standard.
Good, now shut the fuck up and enjoy the movie.
Nerd.
>i understand JC is a martial arts legend and will attract >viewers, but it's just weird TO ME*.
Because you're a nerd.
>*but if they make it work, all power to them.
Okay, but you're still a nerd.
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92674, somebody fuck your mom? calm the fuck down. Posted by FortifiedLive, Thu Jan-15-09 11:36 AM
you asked, and i answered, and nothing i said says that people should see it MY WAY.
you sound like a fucking little brat just 'cause some people see it differently than you. getting so worked off The Karate Kid - who's the nerd?
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92675, It's his steeze. Posted by DawgEatah, Thu Jan-15-09 11:49 AM
Sometimes I forget to shut him out.
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92676, Hmm. You mad I exposed you as a pussy-ass NERD? Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 01:18 PM
>you asked, and i answered, and nothing i said says that >people should see it MY WAY.
The nerd way, sure.
>you sound like a fucking little brat just 'cause some people >see it differently than you. getting so worked off The Karate >Kid - who's the nerd?
Nah, but just be a cool nerd.
Not a wack nerd.
You in here postin bitch, fam.
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92677, ^^^Hilary Swank Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Jan-15-09 12:05 PM
>I have heard nothing but bitching about this movie, >even though it sounds like its potentially very interesting.
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92678, ^^^Johnny who got that ass whooped Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 01:21 PM
Mad?
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92679, ^^^Lamar Latrell. Lost in the first verse of "You're the Best" Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Jan-15-09 03:10 PM
>Mad?
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92680, ^^^^Dust on the car in the "Wax on, Wax off" scene Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 04:47 PM
Haha
That Lamar Latrell was good though
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92681, ^^^^ The Miyagi Crane Kick in Part 2 ^^^^ Posted by DawgEatah, Thu Jan-15-09 05:19 PM
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92682, ^^^Madder than Daniel at soccer tryouts Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Jan-15-09 07:11 PM
"this post sucks man! SUCKS!"
(i was saving that for O_E but he had to go and reply on some "that's a good one" shit, and fuck it up)
bastard lol
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92683, ^^^Cruler than that summer, leaving me here on my own Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri Jan-16-09 02:25 AM
n/m
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92684, ^^^So mad he threw his friggin bike in a dumpster Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Jan-16-09 03:35 AM
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92685, ^^^Madder than typhoon wind Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri Jan-16-09 03:47 AM
For why?
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92686, ^^^Madder than Ali's two cunty friends Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Jan-16-09 03:52 AM
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92687, ^^^BEST BACK N FORTH REPLIES IN DECADES Posted by ShinobiShaw, Fri Jan-16-09 07:58 AM
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92688, ^^^Weaker than Bonsai branches Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri Jan-16-09 09:55 AM
n/m
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92689, ^^^Must be take a worm for a walk week! Posted by Mynoriti, Fri Jan-16-09 02:36 PM
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92690, ^^^archive for this exchange alone. Posted by al_sharp, Fri Jan-16-09 03:34 PM
been standin in the rain for the past couple hours no service even tho i'm standin near a couple towers i guarantee that you're mad but if you had only knew i missed the train because i stopped to buy you flowers
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92691, oh shit! Posted by EmceeGrayMatter, Sun Jan-18-09 04:09 AM
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92692, will you, porchmonkey Sambo nigger, explain why you *do*? Posted by Nukkapedia, Sat Jan-17-09 11:08 AM
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92693, that actually sounds...interesting Posted by araQual, Thu Jan-15-09 03:54 AM
and it might be something which forces Jackie to actually...i dunno, ACT. lol.
V.
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92694, i thought he said he was done making American studio flicks? Posted by LiShang52, Thu Jan-15-09 09:08 AM
i guess not.
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92695, Kung Fu is the father of Karate Posted by ShinobiShaw, Thu Jan-15-09 10:17 AM
As explained loosely via Bruce Lee explained Karate which means to strike or fist strike isnt necessarily all that much different then Kung Fu.
This is a remake of the movie but its not the same movie. Its not taking place in Cali, there is no bitchy white girlfriend. Jaden isnt even old enough to drive yet?
Jackie Chan who is one of the greatest martial arts stars ever and yall acting like he couldn't do karate forms with his eyes closed. Get the fuck outta here. Jackie is going to give a fantastic preformance.
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92696, ^^^^^LOCK THIS POST, NOW^^^^^ Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 10:45 AM
>As explained loosely via Bruce Lee explained Karate which >means to strike or fist strike isnt necessarily all that much >different then Kung Fu. > >This is a remake of the movie but its not the same movie. Its >not taking place in Cali, there is no bitchy white girlfriend. >Jaden isnt even old enough to drive yet? > >Jackie Chan who is one of the greatest martial arts stars ever >and yall acting like he couldn't do karate forms with his eyes >closed. Get the fuck outta here. Jackie is going to give a >fantastic preformance.
THANK YOU, son
THANK YOU
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92697, Let's remember the last time chinese people played japanese people... Posted by Anfernee, Thu Jan-15-09 06:06 PM
Memoirs of a Geisha.
And we all know how great that turned out.
Jackie is my dude, but they are clearly trying to just generate more interest (and potential revenue) using Jackie's star power. I'm not really mad at all this though.
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92698, ^^^Only on Okayplayer Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Jan-15-09 10:50 PM
Only on okayplayer Will you have someone comparing Karate Kid with Memoirs of a Geisha for the sole purpose of generating hate.
I mean, goddamn.
I love y'all nerds.
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92699, Dude, I wasn't comparing Karate Kid to Memoirs. Posted by Anfernee, Sat Jan-17-09 06:09 PM
I was comparing the pedantic racial inaccuracies, and, seeing that one resulted in extra wackness, it could happen with the other.
But again, I'm not really mad at it. We're not here to see Karate Kid for its authenticity and whatnot.
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92700, Uh. That's called a "comparison," Einstein. Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Jan-18-09 02:38 AM
>I was comparing the pedantic racial inaccuracies, and, seeing >that one resulted in extra wackness, it could happen with the >other.
That's the definition of a comparison, toughguy.
You're saying that the element that made one film wack might make the other one wack.
That is, in fact, a comparison.
Its a horrible, terrible comparison, but it is a comparison.
>But again, I'm not really mad at it. We're not here to see >Karate Kid for its authenticity and whatnot.
Okay, so why the fuck did you compare the "racial inaccuracies" of Karate Kid to Memoirs of Geisha?
That was a horrid point, manufactured for the sole purpose of generating hate. Fortunately I was here to notice.
Shame on you.
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92701, I know you're doing your fake outrage thing but c'mon Posted by ryc, Sun Jan-18-09 04:05 AM
there's nothing even remotely unreasonable about dude's comparison
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92702, Stop. The comparision was atrocious, so please, STFU. Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Jan-18-09 09:21 AM
>there's nothing even remotely unreasonable about dude's >comparison
This new Karate Kid is a REVAMP of an old movie starring a MAIN CHARACTER WHO IS OF A DIFFERENT RACE than the old movie. Why does the ethnicity of MR MIYAGI have to be the same when the ethnicity of the protagonist isn't?
^^^^No one has an answer. Not one.
The closest you've come is some nerdy detail about Kung Fu vs Karate, which no one cares about, and which is also irrelevant because Chan could probably fuck 99% of the world up using Karate alone.
Memoirs of a Geisha, on the other hand, is a completely different ball of wax. None of what I said that applies to Karate Kid applies to Memoirs of a Geisha.
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92703, personally, I don't really care about ethnically-specific casting Posted by ryc, Sun Jan-18-09 03:37 PM
unless it's obvious that those choices have been made as a result of ethnic privilege
I think the issue for some folks is one of representation ie why get someone to play that ethnicity when there are a ton of people from that ethnicity who are just as qualified to play that role This is especially a sore point when people of colour are replaced by white folk, because of the historical denial of our representation in popular culture So I guess one way to see the Karate Kid casting is that Daniel being black is progressive in this light, while there's no need to mess with Mr Miyagi's ethnicity (I personally don't think it's all that problematic since they're probably casting Jackie because he's a unique persona)
The other thing is that historically, Hollywood has treated us pretty generically ie all Asians look the same to their eyes, so it doesn't really matter what ethnicity an actor is, just as long as they can wear a coolie hat and speak in broken english So in this light, it's more than understandable that people are sensitive when Hollywood is like "oh it's ok, we'll just get a Chinese man to play a Japanese man" (not necessarily the case here), especially when you add in the factor that there have been inter-ethnic tensions between the two groups Memoirs Of A Geisha comes in because there was a huge hubbub over the casting in that film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoirs_of_a_Geisha_(film)#Casting_controversy) dealing with some of these issues Given that, it's perfectly natural to draw parallels between that casting situation and the one we're currently discussing
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92704, Jesus H. Christ. Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Jan-18-09 04:04 PM
>I think the issue for some folks is one of representation >ie why get someone to play that ethnicity when there are a ton >of people from that ethnicity who are just as qualified to >play that role
Let's make this simple:
NAME AN INTERNATIONAL MARTIAL ARTS STAR OF ANY RACE BIGGER, MORE VISIBLE, MORE QUALIFIED THAN JACKIE CHAN.
THE FUCKING MOVIE IS CALLED 'KARATE KID' and is a RE-VAMP OF AN OLD MOVIE, FEATURING THE SON OF THE BIGGEST MOVIE STAR IN THE WORLD. Its already loaded with gimmicks(that I'm not mad at) to make it seem updated, cool, and hip obviously so that it makes its money. Casting Jackie Chan, given this reality, is not only perfectly reasonable, its a *great* decision, and those of us who aren't artsy fartsy dicks, and are fans of the original smile at the casting.
>This is especially a sore point when people of colour are >replaced by white folk, because of the historical denial of >our representation in popular culture
That's a cute point, but it doesn't apply here. Its a Martial Arts movie, and you guys are mad because the biggest martial arts star in the world is playing a central figure.
I mean, you guys sound fucking stupid.
I remember this point came up when Don Cheadle was cast for Hotel Rwanda. I remember some dumb activist bitch talking about "they should have casted a real Rwandan."
Uh. No.
If they cast a no-name Rwandan and not Don Cheadle, it makes 4 dollars at the box office, the issue doesn't get attention, the execs don't get paid, CHeadle don't get a nomination, and everyone loses. EVERYONE.
>So I guess one way to see the Karate Kid casting is that >Daniel being black is progressive in this light, while there's >no need to mess with Mr Miyagi's ethnicity >(I personally don't think it's all that problematic since >they're probably casting Jackie because he's a unique >persona)
What's further interesting is that some people would consider casting a Chinese man to play a Japanese man to be progressive, given that the Japanese were the historically repressive ones.
^See how I can turn your dumbass point on its head? I'm not even arguing this shit, but if I wanted to, I could.
The bottom line is the point I made first, that you can't make this point because its perfectly fucking logical for Jackie Chan to be caste as a martial arts teacher in a new age, updated martial arts movie.
>The other thing is that historically, Hollywood has treated us >pretty generically >ie all Asians look the same to their eyes, so it doesn't >really matter what ethnicity an actor is, just as long as they >can wear a coolie hat and speak in broken english >So in this light, it's more than understandable that people >are sensitive when Hollywood is like "oh it's ok, we'll just >get a Chinese man to play a Japanese man" (not necessarily the >case here), especially when you add in the factor that there >have been inter-ethnic tensions between the two groups >Memoirs Of A Geisha comes in because there was a huge hubbub >over the casting in that film >(http://en.wikipedia.org
Okay. None of this bullshit applies here, though.
If you can name a Japanese martial arts star 1/100000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000th as popular and qualified to do martial arts as Jackie Chan, than I'll shuttup. You can't, because such an individual does not exist.
/wiki/Memoirs_of_a_Geisha_(film)#Casting_controversy) >dealing with some of these issues >Given that, it's perfectly natural to draw parallels between >that casting situation and the one we're currently discussing
No, I saw the movie, and the comparison is completely invalid for the outlined reasons.
Nice try, though.
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92705, Karate Kid is a Martial Arts movie? Posted by DawgEatah, Sun Jan-18-09 06:40 PM
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92706, dude I don't really want to start arguing for the sake of arguing Posted by ryc, Sun Jan-18-09 06:46 PM
so I'll just say my piece and leave it be
Firstly, I've indicated that I'm actually empathetic with your position, because I think that Jackie brings something to the table that no one else can bring. I've said that However, I also think that people who are giving this the eyebrow have more than enough reason to do so, given what I've outlined above (In other words, I'm not on a mission to dismantle your argument, I'm just trying to introduce some context)
Like you've said, it's supposed to be a blockbuster movie, so star power and money making potential are clearly considerations. That's fine. What's not fine is when decision makers can repeatedly dismiss concerns about racial issues in casting behind the 'money making' argument. If we accept this argument, we also accept (amongst other things) that there will always be a lack of representation of people of colour in feature roles that aren't stereotypical. Sure, it's not just to recast an Asian-American story with mostly white actors (the film '21'), but it sure as hell would sell better, so sorry, you're out of luck. At least your story is being told right? Everyone wins
Regarding the idea that casting Chinese as Japanese could be considered progressive, I'm not sure this holds much weight considering that we're talking specifically about the history of screen representation ie white has historically been cast favourably over black, but I don't know if the same can be said of Japanese over Chinese
But anyway, I don't think we're in too much disagreement on your main point
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92707, So we're hating on Jaden and Jackie, but not Harald Zwart??? Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Jan-16-09 02:04 AM
The guy directed One Night at McCool's. The movie won't suck because of Jaden, nor because of Jackie. I've seen remakes I've dug.
But Harald Zwart? C'mon, PTP. Direct your aim at someone who hasn't made a single fucking good film ever and was handed a remake of a classic to execute.
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92708, Don't you dare tell me how to hate. Posted by DawgEatah, Fri Jan-16-09 11:04 AM
lol
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92709, hahahaha Posted by araQual, Sat Jan-17-09 12:26 PM
V.
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92710, lol! Posted by lfresh, Thu Oct-29-09 03:06 PM
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92711, Somewhere... Posted by mrshow, Fri Jan-16-09 04:08 AM
Ralph Macchio is crying.
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92712, RE: So Jackie Chan is the new Mr. Miyagi. *smh* Posted by Caz_Nova, Sat Jan-17-09 12:51 PM
I'd just like to say that while Jackie is prolly the best person for generating the buzz they want, I'd have really liked to see Sammo play Mr. Miyagi instead.
I doubt he would have, but I think that would have been cool.
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92713, Sammo would have been perfect, good call Posted by spades, Thu Oct-29-09 04:06 PM
But Jackie will sell more tickets.
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92714, Jackie's also got this coming out Posted by ryc, Sun Jan-18-09 04:08 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinjuku_Incident
apparently he doesn't fight in this
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92715, hmmm, that could be good if it's done right Posted by araQual, Mon Jan-19-09 07:18 PM
V.
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92716, yeah, the trailer looks kinda interesting Posted by ryc, Tue Jan-20-09 01:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oUlZfELm-E
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92717, I really wish they wouldn't do this. Posted by kysersozey, Sun Jan-18-09 06:59 PM
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92718, Jackie Chan is a LEGEND Posted by Bruce Belafonte, Tue Jan-20-09 04:13 AM
and if i'm not mistaken no white person is making him do this. he chooses his roles at this point in his career. even if he didn't "choose" them so to speak he has the option to turn them down.
shit, chappelle turned down 50M
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92719, shots of jackie and jaden training Posted by lfresh, Thu Oct-29-09 03:04 PM
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92720, ohhhhh shit. please tell me there will be stick fighting in this movie Posted by ShinobiShaw, Fri Oct-30-09 01:46 PM
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92721, Fam, JACKIE CHAN SAID he's impressed with Jaden. Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri Oct-30-09 01:51 PM
He said JADEN IS GOING HARD preparing for this role and is impressed with his work ethic
And no racism-o, but when an asian talks about he's impressed with someone's work ethic and concentration, its time to listen
*shrugs*
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92722, lol true though Posted by Ionno, Fri May-21-10 10:32 AM
nm
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92723, *sees the trail of destroyed arguments in O_E's wake* Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Oct-29-09 04:18 PM
*is impressed*
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92724, hahaha Posted by V3rb, Thu Oct-29-09 05:40 PM
Stay Nifty, Niggas.
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92725, what made the original work so well was the magic Posted by Jon, Thu Oct-29-09 09:00 PM
i don't mind them paying homage though. i'll take a peek when it comes out.
but some movies are really wonderful because of the moment, the setting, the time, the chemistry between actors/characters, a whole lot of je ne sais que that really can't be formulated.
on a related note: my biggest issue with nostalgia remakes these days is they use the story/concept/plot and "update" it, thus leaving out the all the nostalgia
its like Pacino said in Glengarry (paraphrasing) "most likely when you think back on a favorite fuck, its not the orgasm that you remember, its the way her forearm would go on you or the particular sound she would make"
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92726, Mannn Jackie will be the perfect Mr Myagi ...WTF is yall problem Posted by JAESCOTT777, Fri Oct-30-09 10:52 AM
Pat morina had ZEEEROE ties to martial arts prior to KK not to mention he was fakin the shit outta the accent nigga grew up in Cali and had NO trace of an accent in real life
So he was fakin the funk
and far as Mr myagi NOT being Japanese now who gives a flying fuck
PLUS half of yall had no idea nor did you give a shit about that shit when you 1st saw it
you just used to practice your broke ass crane kick
now you older and mad you wanna go all Robert langdon and shit
I call bullshit
its a NEW movie
Daniel san is black now Mr Myagi is now Chinese
Pat Morita was Chinese anyfucking way!!
anger on anger off
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92727, Pat Morita (RIP) was Japanese Posted by TRENDone, Wed May-12-10 02:45 AM
much respect to Jackie Chan for getting the roll. What ya'll non-Asians don't understand is a chinese man playing a japanese man that's a master at a japanese martial art is like "blackface."
Mexicans got mad that Puerto Rican J.Lo played Selena (except the ass).
Asians, yes, all Asians, will dislike a chinese man playing a japanese man on film.
stop questioning it and accept it.
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92728, You are, without question, the dumbest motherfucker on earth Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri May-21-10 12:19 AM
>much respect to Jackie Chan for getting the roll. What ya'll >non-Asians don't understand is a chinese man playing a >japanese man that's a master at a japanese martial art is like >"blackface."
Except Jackie Chan is not playing a Japanese man in the movie, and the movie doesn't take place in Japan, or have anything to do with Japan.
The makers of the remake ethered the shit out of the critics with the title of the movie, and explain why its called 'Karate Kid' in the international trailer that you haven't watched
>Asians, yes, all Asians, will dislike a chinese man playing a >japanese man on film.
Except a Chinese man is not playing a Japanese man.
>stop questioning it and accept it.
How about you stop being retarded?
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92729, So Jackie Chan's character is NOT named "Mr. Miyagi?" Posted by TRENDone, Fri May-21-10 01:03 AM
if it's a completely new character then yeah, no harm no foul. you kill me o_e. just know i'm smiling right now but you need to chill w/ that MF talk, no delonte.
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92730, Jesus christ. Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri May-21-10 07:54 AM
It doesn't matter if his name is Mr. Kobayashi.
If he's not Japanese, he's not Japanese.
The movie TAKES PLACE in China. If you saw any of the trailers, let alone read anything about the movie, you'd know that.
Read.
Not a lot.
But Read a LITTLE bit before concluding dumb shit.
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92731, So people actually like "The Karate Kid" non-ironically? Posted by Mole, Sat Oct-31-09 01:49 AM
Or at least, non-ironically enough to actually get upset with this casting? Is Mr. Miyagi THAT iconic of a character? Or so iconic that Jackie Chan would somehow fuck it up? I agree with O_E: If you're gonna reboot the franchise, Chan is the best dude to go with.
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92732, FOH with this hipster bullshit Posted by 40thStreetBlack, Fri May-21-10 09:33 PM
Karate Kid is a classic and Mr. Miyagi is an iconic character. If you need some ironic hipster rationalization as an excuse to enjoy it you deserve a cobra kai punch to the throat.
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92733, wow. what a bunch of cornholing nerds in this post, OP for starters Posted by Cold Truth, Sat Oct-31-09 01:59 AM
jeebus h fucking christ do you guys need to get in touch with a vagina, and STAT.
b-b-but HE'S CHINESE!!! KARATE IS FROM JAPAN!!!!
then perhaps you should just stick to your art house and foreign films.
like that's a huge issue. idiots.
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92734, Aaaaaand here's the trailer (link) Posted by KneelB4Me, Tue Dec-22-09 09:44 PM
http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/the-karate-kid-2010/trailer
Meh. Might take my fiancee's nephew, but I am fucking sick of that Fort Minor song being used in every movie trailer involving fighting.
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92735, i cant take Jaden seriously. not even in an ironic way. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Dec-22-09 09:55 PM
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92736, lol he looks like Riley Posted by Mynoriti, Tue Dec-22-09 10:07 PM
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92737, like he bout to take a whoopin from Butch Magnus Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Dec-23-09 01:49 AM
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92738, THAT's what bugged me about it, lol Posted by ZooTown74, Wed Dec-23-09 12:37 PM
The movie will be fine, though; looks like Will had heavy input (Jaden's last line of the trailer sounds like something Will would say)...
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92739, Translation: That line was clever, timely, and delivered well. Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 12:42 PM
>The movie will be fine, though; looks like Will had heavy >input (Jaden's last line of the trailer sounds like something >Will would say)...
Find a way to not give it its due, though.
I hear what's really good
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92740, That's not what that meant at all. Nice try, though. Posted by ZooTown74, Wed Dec-23-09 12:44 PM
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92741, Well, you are MAD, going around locking posts, MAD MOD<--hahaha Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 12:48 PM
That other post was specifically about the trailer and the other points...you saw the trailer, felt a part of you enjoy it, and LOCKED!! <---Hahahaha
As for the line, it was a perfect, funny, ironic line. Just like daddy delivers them.
Oh, and you are mad.
Why?
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92742, They should've made a Boondocks live action movie instead Posted by Wordup, Wed Dec-23-09 12:30 AM
>http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/the-karate-kid-2010/trailer > >Meh. Might take my fiancee's nephew, but I am fucking sick of >that Fort Minor song being used in every movie trailer >involving fighting. > > > >"I halfway hope people put "btw, rappers lie and shit" on CD >covers, like a parental advisory sticker." - OKP Villain > >www.dreamertodesigner.com >www.twitter.com/lexlamont
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92743, I would love to see that actually. Posted by spades, Wed Dec-23-09 12:16 PM
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92744, Not feeling it. Posted by DawgEatah, Wed Dec-23-09 12:27 PM
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92745, Haha....Mad, doggie(eatah?) Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 12:37 PM
Why for?
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92746, Not really. The fight scene/training stuff looks ok. Posted by DawgEatah, Wed Dec-23-09 12:48 PM
Everything else seemed kinda meh to me.
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92747, Post 106. If you don't admit that, you just mad. Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 12:58 PM
Just sayin
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92748, Haha...O_E got the PTP MODERATOR ZOOTOWN MAD!!!!! Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 12:46 PM
Nigga this post is about Jackie Chan
My post was about the TRAILER SPECIFICALLY
FOH
Don't matter though
Niggas proving my point, getting all frustrated locking posts!! <---Hahaha
Goddamn this movie is gonna be outstandin
I'ma need to pay for y'all to go the strip club or somethin you gonna be soooo fuckin mad
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92749, even when i agree with you, i think you're an idiot. Posted by shockzilla, Wed Dec-23-09 12:54 PM
this post is about the movie, dickhead.
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92750, Your girlfriend smokes Earl Grey Teabags laced with PCP Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 01:06 PM
True story
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92751, ..and that's why i luh her. Posted by shockzilla, Wed Dec-23-09 01:18 PM
merry christmas, asshole.
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92752, No, but that is why you in here postin real mad. Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 01:29 PM
>merry christmas, asshole.
Happy New Year's Nerdman
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92753, jesus, your 'mad' schtick is tired. Posted by shockzilla, Wed Dec-23-09 01:34 PM
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92754, The word 'mad' has completely lost all it's meaning at this point. Posted by DawgEatah, Wed Dec-23-09 01:45 PM
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92755, Haha. You just pumped life back into it, like, just now. Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 01:48 PM
I was joking with him, but you are REALLY REALLY mad at this Karate Kid shit.
The shit is going to be John Blaze, and it hurts a real essential part of your soul
Yes, you iz mad.
Why?
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92756, And awwww shit at the freeze-frame at 1:32!!!! Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 03:01 PM
They got that CRANE KICK in that piece
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92757, Let's LIST things that are ALREADY better about the NEW KARATE KID: Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 12:57 PM
a)The central conflict is more realistic. Black kid from Detroit with corn rows moves to China and makes enemies because he's the new kid. Much more realistic than the original conflict, which was about....what again? Seriously - why Johnny and all them bad ass whiteboys fuck with Daniel like that? The old one had all this trite, irrelevant family shit in it, and that ugly ass broad that didn't nobody care about.
b)Sorry, Jackie Chan as a martial artist >>> Mr. Miyagi. I actually believe Chan can fuck up some stronger, younger cats. The original Mr. Miyagi beating up some super young, strong black belt niggas? FOH
c) Like I said in the other post -- the new Daniel is far better than the old. Ralph Macchio was actually a terrible protoganist. The protagonist doesn't have to be a fucking nerd herb ass nigga for the story to work. The protagonist can be a cool, athletic kid.
The fact that Daniel is YOUNGER is better too, since it will be more of a coming of age story...Jaden don't really know his physical limits like that. Its more realistic since you see greater growth when you teach martial arts to younger kids anyway. Far more realistic. Far, far, more.
d) The actual fight scenes, visually, will be about 5,0000 times better. I don't care. They'll be better. Be mad.
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92758, it looks good. really good. Posted by shockzilla, Wed Dec-23-09 01:33 PM
that it is called 'the karate kid' seems even more stupid now that i know it's set in china, however.
why not 'the kung fu kid'?
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92759, The better question is: Why should we give a fuck? Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 01:40 PM
$$$$ >>> Integrity on a film's TITLE
I'd be mad at that if the movie wasn't going to be good. Problem is, this is going to be a fine piece of art, with good messages, cross-cultural understanding, and will be inspiring for lots of kids of many races.
It features one of the great martial artists of our time, and a charismatic african-american male in the lead
I could give a fuck what the actual title is, and neither should you.
It'll be good.
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92760, we should give a f-ck because we're not getting the $$$$ Posted by Jon, Sat Feb-27-10 10:06 AM
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92761, The stories look the same. Posted by SoulHonky, Wed Dec-23-09 02:24 PM
>a)The central conflict is more realistic. Black kid >from Detroit with corn rows moves to China and makes >enemies because he's the new kid. Much more realistic >than the original conflict, which was about....what again? >Seriously - why Johnny and all them bad ass whiteboys fuck >with Daniel like that? The old one had all this trite, >irrelevant family shit in it, and that ugly ass broad that >didn't nobody care about.
Daniel was the new kid. His mom moved them because of a job opportunity. It's pretty much the same story except the races and location has changed. Also, the trailer shows that there will probably be the same irrelevant family shit in it.
Jackie Chan is definitely a step up, I like that the choreography will be better (although without the original Karate Kid's success, this one doesn't get the budget it got).
It looks good but I don't see the need to shit on the original.
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92762, The original was good. This one looks better. Cry, nerd. Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 02:54 PM
>Daniel was the new kid. His mom moved them because of a job >opportunity. It's pretty much the same story except the races >and location has changed. Also, the trailer shows that there >will probably be the same irrelevant family shit in it.
LOL @ you glossing over the "location change."
A new kid from the UNITED STATES moving to CHINA is not just a location change. Its a cultural shift. US-China are already lightweight beefing politically, and there's plenty of reasons that bad kids from China would beef with an American kid. And he African-American, which means people don't really have a positive image of him like that, which has been my experience every time I go everywhere, really(not that China has this problem any worse than anywhere else....hell, AFRICANS done asked me more ignorant shit than Asians have on my travels)
So nice way to try and gloss over the differences.
Proof that you're mad, actually.
>Jackie Chan is definitely a step up, I like that the >choreography will be better (although without the original >Karate Kid's success, this one doesn't get the budget it got).
Uh - without Abraham Lincoln, Will Smith and Jada Pinkett's ancestors ain't free
Without me, you wouldn't be mad right now
Not sure where you're going with that one, sparky
*shrugs*
>It looks good but I don't see the need to shit on the >original.
No, I'm being intelligently reactionary. Y'all were in here ready to SHIT ON THE NEW ONE just because y'all some nostalgia having nerds
Give up.
I loved the original. I was a huuuuge fan.
But it needed an update.
And this update looks better.
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92763, When did I say this was going to be bad? Posted by SoulHonky, Wed Dec-23-09 03:05 PM
"No, I'm being intelligently reactionary. Y'all were in here ready to SHIT ON THE NEW ONE just because y'all some nostalgia having nerds"
You're just going off on anyone because you're mad that some people were hating on this for no good reason.
Seriously, calm down.
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92764, Okay, but admit that you do sound mad. Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 03:20 PM
Why?
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92765, dude seriously your a fuckin idiot Posted by Oak27, Wed Dec-23-09 03:29 PM
he doesnt sound mad at all, stop trying to bait people just cause you feel like your opinion is above the masses
the movie looks cool and the original is great. i will be seeing this with an open mind and hope you can one day get over yourself and your whole "you all like this but im gonna pummel in your head that my opinion is better YOU MAD!?!?!?!" shtick
oh
and
im not mad
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92766, Take a nap, re-read your post, then tell me you don't sound mad. Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 03:40 PM
Seriously-
You guys geuniely sound mad.
As in, like, you are hurt by me and my opinions.
I didn't make the rules. I just make the observations.
I rub you wrong, no homo.
You don't have to openly admit it. I'll tell everyone for you.
I am saying, however, that it is silly.
So I'ma level with you, for real this time(on some grown man shit):
Why art thou mad?
For why?
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O_E: Your Super-Ego's Favorite Poster.
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"
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92767, lol im AGREEING with you that the movie looks like it will be good Posted by Oak27, Wed Dec-23-09 03:43 PM
why would i be mad? im just telling you that your game is getting old, im not mad, more annoyed
people disagree with you and your only respond is "why are you mad?"
that's pretty much your only argument. ever.
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92768, All the reason its strange that you iz mad. Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 04:10 PM
>why would i be mad? im just telling you that your game is >getting old, im not mad, more annoyed
No, you're mad.
Why?
>people disagree with you and your only respond is "why are you >mad?"
No, I actually make actual responses and directly engage points. I then top it off with a "why are you mad?" Its the cherry on top. Its awesome.
>that's pretty much your only argument. ever.
Mad.
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O_E: Your Super-Ego's Favorite Poster.
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"
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92769, ^^mad Posted by Oak27, Wed Dec-23-09 04:25 PM
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92770, That a girl! Better than your other replies. Posted by Orbit_Established, Wed Dec-23-09 05:22 PM
n/m
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O_E: Your Super-Ego's Favorite Poster.
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"
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92771, Int'l Trailer *link* Posted by CaptNish, Fri Feb-26-10 06:46 PM
http://aintitcool.com/node/44101
I'm kinda feelin' it. Thought, I will say... y'all ain't kidding. Jaden does look a shitload like Riley.
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92772, Effa 'kinda.' Come on, this better. Posted by Whiteout, Fri Feb-26-10 08:03 PM
This movie is going to be good and make bank.
Nostalgia dead in the head this time.
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92773, BWHAHAHA. They just ETHERED THE SHIT out of the critics Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri Feb-26-10 08:56 PM
GODDAMN...they get to USE THE OLD TITLE and have it make sense....Jesus Lawd...exhibit A for why artsy fartsies and nostalgia complainers always LOSE in the end
ALWAYS
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"
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92774, Yep, that was a great move Posted by Whiteout, Fri Feb-26-10 08:58 PM
Check and mate.
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92775, they need to film him as Riley before it's too late lol. Posted by FortifiedLive, Sun Mar-21-10 10:42 PM
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92776, FIYAH....could be quite good Posted by LA2Philly, Tue May-11-10 02:27 PM
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92777, Ahnald watches the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdrFwikfJNk Posted by FortifiedLive, Sun Mar-21-10 08:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdrFwikfJNk
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92778, o and with Iron Man's mediocrity, this will be 2010's best summer flick Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon May-10-10 11:12 PM
Might not make as much money, given that IM2 is a sequel, but it'll definitely be better.
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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"
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92779, ok now they just have to hook up the soundtrack for me Posted by lfresh, Tue May-11-10 04:55 PM
the first one had cruel summer and the Zamfir flutes
if they put a young (fill in the blank here) anything or a Lady (fill in the blank) imma have problems i just know they gonna do it but i can hope can't i? ~~~~ When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries. ~~~~ You cannot hate people for their own good.
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92780, get outta my head Posted by kysersozey, Thu May-20-10 08:52 PM
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