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79321, The official DARK KNIGHT discussion/SPOILERS post
Posted by Deluge, Tue Jul-17-07 07:38 PM
lets go! ©dilla
79322, *** SPOILERS *** chicago set footage (clear view of the joker)
Posted by Deluge, Tue Jul-17-07 07:38 PM
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=F83DDCC8F382BB7FC5D8D6744B81CF5C?contentId=3789512&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
79323, *** SPOILERS *** eckhart on dent's appearance in the movie
Posted by Deluge, Tue Jul-17-07 07:40 PM
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/070714a.php


Question: But in that movie you're hidden under makeup though right? So how does that work?

Eckhart: Well I will only say that in Batman I am both Harvey Dent and Harvey Two-Face.

Question: And you're playing the same character that was once played by somebody else.

Eckhart: Yeah.

Question: That must be pretty tricky.

Eckhart: Well I see no connection between the two. And I've not had any discussions about that. That's one thing about movies. What somebody else did is what somebody else did. In soap operas you're willing to believe that a character can come back to life. Basically, you just want that guy on screen. You don't care what happened before. It's like balance. I mean J.R. could come back today and nobody would care. I mean nobody would care about the logistics of him coming back. So I don't think people are going to get hung up on my performance versus Tommy Lee's. It's just two different things.

Question: Well the fun of Dark Knight is the fact that there's this duality that you have to portray ...

Eckhart: Definitely.

Question: ... which must be the hook for you as an actor.

Eckhart: Well there's several hooks for me, none of which I can talk about, but I will say that I like the character. I like playing this guy. This guy has likeable attributes, characteristics. And it really, as in this whole Batman going through it, it's really a mirror of our times in a lot of ways. It's a comment on what's going on in the world today. And my character fits into that really nicely. And everybody's character does from Lieutenant Gordon to the Joker. I guess Batman is just trying to make sense of what's going on and trying to fight a fight that maybe he doesn't totally understand.

Question: And the makeup is not too much of a pain in the ass?

Eckhart: No all that stuff helps - everything helps an actor.

Question: And with Batman are you prepared to face the onslaught of the comic book fans that are going to be scrutinising every facet of this?

Eckhart: I don't think I understand what this entails.

Question: Good luck. That's all I can say.

Eckhart: That's what I've been hearing.

Question: I'll see you at Comic con next year and you'll be 'Oh my god, what have I let myself in for?'

Eckhart: They didn't pay me enough.

Question: Enjoy it while you can.

Eckhart: I will, I will. I can't imagine. But you know what, I'm there with veterans, you know. I mean Christian's been through it and Chris and I think Heath is going to take the brunt of it. Let me tell you. Heath is going to be spectacular in this movie.

Question: You've seen him in the makeup?

Eckhart: Yeah. Heath is going to be amazing.

Question: What about being on a Chris Nolan set?

Eckhart: More so than ever with Chris is that it feels like he's just making a movie with the family, because everybody stays on set. It's very mellow, he works with the same people all the time. So it's very familiar.
79324, think they'll put "Batman" & a colon in front of the title by release?
Posted by Doc Maestro, Tue Jul-17-07 10:31 PM
i cant see them promoting a Batman movie without the word "Batman" in the title. that's just unhollywood.
79325, nah they're not it's going by 'the dark knight'
Posted by Deluge, Wed Jul-18-07 03:26 AM
nolan is kicking ass @ WB
i really dont get how a studio like WB lets them pull all this un-hollywood-like stuff

well i do get why
*cough* batman & robin *cough*
79326, well tons of people will be at the boxoffice like "two for batman 2"
Posted by Doc Maestro, Wed Jul-18-07 03:42 PM
79327, personal guarantee... itll have the colons...
Posted by Ice Kareem, Wed Jul-18-07 07:28 PM
the suits dont let movies like this get released without the characters name in the title... its never happened before for a reason
79328, um theyre already promoting it without them
Posted by Deluge, Thu Jul-19-07 02:32 AM
all the press packages so far have no mention of 'batman;' in it
79329, and the movie is coming out when????????
Posted by Ice Kareem, Thu Jul-19-07 05:30 PM
dude think about from a marketing stand point it would be just plain stupid... i mean it appeals to the "smart fan".. but warner bros needs to make sure that the average moviegoer knows what there gonna see...

its never happened before and it wont now... im willin to wager my soul on it
79330, that IS the marketing standpoint
Posted by Deluge, Thu Jul-19-07 10:00 PM
first off theyre trying to make clear that they rebooted the franchise
second the stuff im talking about IS what the marketing is
its anouncements on the toyline
its press sheets
its everything to get investors and the whole name out
theyre not just going to add the 'batman;' to it a month prior to the release
if you dont buy it great, watch in a week or so when the teaser trailer pops up
79331, i think they made it clear they were rebooting with the "begins" thing...
Posted by Ice Kareem, Thu Jul-19-07 10:17 PM
ill believe it when i see it
79332, you're being extremely hardheaded because its out to see already
Posted by Deluge, Fri Jul-20-07 06:02 AM
IMAX press release (partially):

In an unprecedented move, director Christopher Nolan is filming four sequences in the next installment of Warner Bros. Pictures' Batman franchise, "The Dark Knight," with extremely high resolution IMAX® cameras using the giant 15/70 film format. The announcement was made today by Jeff Robinov, President of Production, Warner Bros. Pictures. While it is not unique for a feature lensed on traditional 35mm film to be re-mastered to screen in IMAX® theatres, this marks the first time ever that a major feature film has been even partially shot using IMAX cameras, marking a revolutionary integration of the two film formats.

NY Licensing show stand:
http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/004902/Batpod.jpg

Licensing sheet:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o81/logmatt/The%20Dark%20Knight/TDKlicensingsheet2007.jpg
79333, So the Batpod doubles as a sex toy?
Posted by jigga, Mon Jul-23-07 03:44 PM
>http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/004902/Batpod.jpg

79334, you'd be suprised at what can double as a sex toy
Posted by YaBoy...Holla@ME, Mon Jul-23-07 05:41 PM
nm
79335, Your avy fits perfectly with the reply
Posted by jigga, Thu Jul-26-07 03:22 PM
79336, i came in here to aplogize to deluge lol
Posted by Ice Kareem, Thu Apr-03-08 02:04 PM
yea man, i was wrong big deal.. wanna fight about it!??!
79337, well, you were wrong on that one
Posted by justin_scott, Tue Mar-11-08 04:52 PM
lol
79338, *Rides Batpod into this post*
Posted by Esco, Wed Jul-18-07 10:15 AM
79339, Fearless Prediction
Posted by Brother Grifter, Wed Jul-18-07 11:43 AM
After this next movie we will look at the Tim Burton Batman the same way that we look at the Adam West one...

And we won't even mention the Schumacher ones
79340, YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH ADAM WEST AS BATMAN, SUCKER???
Posted by Esco, Wed Jul-18-07 03:37 PM
79341, RE: Fearless Prediction
Posted by mrshow, Wed Jul-18-07 04:49 PM
I caught the first Batman on HBO a few months ago and was pleasently surprised that it still held-up. I liked Batman Begins alot but, upon repeat viewings, I think the 3rd act is pretty weak.
79342, I dunno, the first 2 Burton films are pretty damn good...
Posted by phenompyrus, Thu Jul-19-07 07:53 AM
I can still sit and watch them, and they both still rank in the top of my hero movies even today.

>X2, Batman Begins, V for Vendetta, Batman, Batman Returns
79343, bolder prediction
Posted by DubSpt, Thu Nov-08-07 04:51 AM
when Batman gets remade again (lets say in about ten years) we'll look back on Burton's movies AND Nolan's movies and think both hold up well but "aren't half as good as this new shit."

just sayin.
79344, Orgasmic Detail-free Script Review:
Posted by Monkey Genius, Wed Jul-18-07 12:14 PM
http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDK_script-review_sp_2007.html
79345, that's great and all but i wanna be spoiled like last time
Posted by Doc Maestro, Wed Jul-18-07 03:43 PM
then finally see the movie & be like "FUCK YEAH. thats exactly how i pictured it"
79346, i read that shit yesterday and was wondering why its even put up
Posted by Deluge, Wed Jul-18-07 04:05 PM
that shit said like nothing
and yeah dude has cred on the site
but that says nothing to me lol
79347, I clicked the link all eager.
Posted by Monkey Genius, Wed Jul-18-07 05:14 PM
Closed the tab mad as fuck.
79348, This is easily my most anticipated movie
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Jul-18-07 04:01 PM
easily.......its prob gonna be like 15 of us going to watch this. Batman Begins ranks in the top 3 movies of the last 10 years for nearly all my male cousins lol.
79349, ^What he said^
Posted by phenompyrus, Thu Jul-19-07 08:06 AM
I haven't been this pumped for a movie since X-Men 3 (which I liked).
79350, William Finchter & Nestor Carbonell are great additions as well
Posted by jigga, Wed Jul-18-07 04:27 PM
Top notch cast

Top notch director

CFW

79351, well...
Posted by BigWorm, Thu Jul-19-07 08:47 AM
I won't lie, I'm interested, and not just because they were filming part of this down the street from where I lived AND down the street from where I work (I live in Gotham City, bitches), but...

I don't know, we know that at least the Joker, Two-Face and the Scarecrow are all in this one. Apart from that they introduce a new heroine, and still have to give at least a decent amount of attention on Michael Caine, Gary Oldman and Morgan Freeman.

Christopher Nolan has more going for him than, say, Sam Raimi, but...I don't know...this is starting to look at little Spiderman 3ish.
79352, well lets look at Batman begins...
Posted by Clark Kent, Thu Jul-19-07 02:58 PM
we had Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow and his goons, and The Roman and his goons...then the whole origin story and it was done nicely.
79353, very true
Posted by BigWorm, Thu Jul-19-07 04:58 PM
if they can pull it off again, cool.
79354, the difference is each character is (kept) in it for a reason
Posted by Deluge, Thu Jul-19-07 10:02 PM
everybody has a connection to each other
raimi had to add venom cause fans/investors/studio execs wanted to see him etc.
79355, FULL JOKER SPY SHOT ***SPOILER***
Posted by Deluge, Sat Jul-21-07 04:43 PM
http://i16.tinypic.com/52yjqdx.jpg

freakin awesome
79356, hmm
Posted by DubSpt, Thu Nov-08-07 04:54 AM
He looks like Eddie Vedder in the Crow's make up after an appearance on Family Double Dare.
79357, Teaser trailer description *SPOILER*
Posted by Deluge, Sun Jul-22-07 08:23 AM
from SHH:

I have seen The Dark Knight Teaser. I don't want to reveal everything...

It starts out with the WB logo gracing the screen, followed by the DC logo and the Legendary pictures logo. The screen goes black.

It opens back up as a commercial paid for by the friends of Harvey Dent. We are shown shots of him talking, making public speeches, and walking in a suit, while a deep voice comes on and talks about Harvey Dent. A generic politician commercial.

What seems to be halfway through the commercial, it is interrupted by static, and blacks out. Out of nowhere a crystal clear image comes onto the screen of a blacked out man with large windows behind him. The camera slowly zooms in on him. He's talking (about what I won't say) and as he finishes he begins laughing. Lightning strikes, lighting up his face, as the laughter grows more manic. Cut to black.

The Batman Begins (now The Dark Knight's bat) emblem is shown with the words The Dark Knight. Then it says Summer 2008 and has the website at the bottom.

What is said... is a surprise that I must keep for now. It gave me chills.
79358, Alleged trailer:
Posted by Monkey Genius, Thu Jul-26-07 02:41 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nb4TstBBHYE

Well... teaser. If it's fake, it's well done.
79359, pretty cool
Posted by SammyJankis, Thu Jul-26-07 02:52 PM
79360, looks real to me
Posted by Deluge, Thu Jul-26-07 03:00 PM
the above posted description off SHH seemed too good to be true anyway (or perhaps it does exist but its the trailer thats coming in dec?)
79361, Fanboys are mad already!
Posted by Monkey Genius, Thu Jul-26-07 03:05 PM
God bless 'em.
79362, RE: Fanboys are mad already!
Posted by Wahday, Thu Jul-26-07 03:35 PM
Ledger sounds creepy and the laugh sounds spot on. Fan boys are going nuts because there is just a batsymbol that is destroyed by a joker card


http://wahday.blogspot.com <-----My Thoughts
79363, this is different.. he crossed the line
Posted by Jru, Thu Jul-26-07 04:03 PM
you crossed the line first sir

ooo shit
79364, DAMN YOU WARNER BROTHERS!!!
Posted by KneelB4Me, Thu Jul-26-07 07:01 PM
They took it down.

www.preptimeposse.blogspot.com

Your favorite blogger's favorite blog.
79365, aarrggghhh. sumone find me another link?
Posted by araQual, Thu Jul-26-07 09:40 PM
V.
79366, RWQTSTL
Posted by Doc Maestro, Thu Jul-26-07 10:45 PM


I used vixy.net as soon as i saw the youtube link. lucky.
79367, LINK!?!?
Posted by araQual, Thu Jul-26-07 11:15 PM
V.
79368, 'reply with quote' to see the link
Posted by Doc Maestro, Thu Jul-26-07 11:24 PM
= rwqtstl.
79369, yooooooooooo its only audio!!!!!!!!!
Posted by illadelphgurl, Fri Jul-27-07 12:38 AM
!!!
79370, d/l then use an avi player like vlc
Posted by KingKahn, Fri Jul-27-07 01:11 AM
79371, thats still all over youtube
Posted by illadelphgurl, Fri Jul-27-07 01:27 AM
not the teaser!!!!!!!
79372, One of the few reservations I had was, well, the laughing
Posted by KingKahn, Fri Jul-27-07 01:17 AM
Petty? Maybe. It's not like it would ruin everything, but I mean it's the clown prince of crime we're talking about here. And though I praised the Ledger casting from the jump, under my breath and in the back of my head I couldn't really see him nailing that specific part of the character.

If this is real... well, I stand corrected. Dude sounds fucking crazy.
79373, Hahahahahahahahahahahahhhaaaaahhahahahahahaaaaaaaaa
Posted by hardware, Thu Jul-26-07 08:18 PM
http://whysoserious.com
79374, lol oh shit. wat is this site?
Posted by araQual, Thu Jul-26-07 09:40 PM
V.
79375, They passin out actual dollar bills at comic con with that address on em
Posted by hardware, Thu Jul-26-07 09:50 PM
i guess we'll find out at midnight tomorrow
79376, actually, that would be noon.
Posted by Invisiblist, Thu Jul-26-07 09:57 PM
79377, the location of those coordinates is outside comic con
Posted by Deluge, Fri Jul-27-07 04:41 AM
79378, HEY GUYS CHECK THIS OUT.
Posted by Doc Maestro, Fri Jul-27-07 01:39 PM
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4712/theknifeai5.jpg
79379, HD Teaser trailer
Posted by hardware, Fri Jul-27-07 02:04 PM
http://video.whysoserious.com/TDK_Teaser_HD_Best_L98hufT.mov
79380, its taking forever to download
Posted by farbod, Fri Jul-27-07 02:23 PM

79381, MEDIUM Teaser Trailer. 9mb
Posted by hardware, Fri Jul-27-07 02:30 PM
http://video.whysoserious.com/TDK_Teaser_HD_Medium_bV78g1K.mov
79382, I CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by LA2Philly, Fri Jul-27-07 04:17 PM
this is gonna be the movie event of my lifetime yo.
79383, well you only got 365 days to wait
Posted by hardware, Fri Jul-27-07 04:24 PM
79384, FUCK!!!! like ive been sayn all along, this is gonna PWN 2008
Posted by araQual, Fri Jul-27-07 08:48 PM
V.
79385, CALL 800 395 9646!
Posted by Deluge, Fri Jul-27-07 07:57 PM
79386, ledger is perfect!
Posted by xangeluvr, Sat Jul-28-07 01:01 AM
wow. his voice and laugh from the trailer is perfect. i can't wait.
79387, damn, that laugh was spot on.
Posted by eldealo, Sat Jul-28-07 03:35 AM
i can't wait.
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Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/
79388, As I've BEEN saying...
Posted by Ryan M, Sat Jul-28-07 04:21 AM
Ledger's gonna be perfect. Ya'll naysayers just wait.
79389, shit....
Posted by topaz, Sat Jul-28-07 09:56 AM
i feel like Jay-Z after Timbaland played all his beats in Fade To Black
79390, Nevermind.
Posted by magilla vanilla, Mon Jul-30-07 07:03 PM
the pic was already posted, but it's still AWESOME!
79391, my brother just showed me this update
Posted by illadelphgurl, Sun Aug-12-07 01:41 AM
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/movies/dark_knight/005607875.cfm
79392, they stepped up their game so much with this one
Posted by Deluge, Sun Aug-12-07 08:47 AM
79393, Pics of when I was in Chicago (not for WWC)..
Posted by Improv, Sun Aug-12-07 06:27 PM
Some you may have seen before:
http://www.divshare.com/download/1486946-9d2
http://www.divshare.com/download/1486945-dad
http://www.divshare.com/download/1486944-9e8
http://www.divshare.com/download/1486900-8a1
http://www.divshare.com/download/1486899-d24

Strangely, they weren't like "This is top secret" and stuff were rather accessible haha

Guess things got tighter when they begin their shooting for the day

We are all dreamers...

Your dreams have now been fulfilled...

Love, Murder, and Friendship: www.TheMeetingFilm.com (all comments (good or bad) are welcomed)
79394, i was surprised when i was around the spiderman 3 set in NY
Posted by Deluge, Tue Aug-14-07 05:31 PM
that shit wasnt tight at all
79395, Leaked Images:
Posted by Monkey Genius, Thu Aug-16-07 08:52 PM
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9632/tdkleaked2pp8ld0.jpg

Not yet sure how I feel bout FacePaint Joker.
79396, This will be the best. movie. ever. (c)Bizarro Comic Book Guy
Posted by YaBoy...Holla@ME, Mon Aug-20-07 02:32 AM
true story
79397, Thanks for posting
Posted by dgonsh, Mon Aug-20-07 07:46 PM
i think knight/ledger are proving with these pics that ledger is by far the best choice for the role.

that bat-bike looks sick.
79398, kinda leaks weird w/o lighting effects
Posted by xangeluvr, Tue Aug-21-07 02:58 AM
its funny how bright everything is in those pics without them adding any lighting effects and darkening the picture. i can't wait for this movie.

>http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9632/tdkleaked2pp8ld0.jpg
>
>Not yet sure how I feel bout FacePaint Joker.
79399, IF Heath can portray Joker accurately, most people will not give a shit
Posted by eldealo, Tue Aug-21-07 07:47 AM

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Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/
79400, Is that Cillian Murphy sitting next to Bizzaro Batman on the left?
Posted by jigga, Tue Aug-21-07 10:26 AM
*fingers crossed*
79401, RE: Is that Cillian Murphy sitting next to Bizzaro Batman on the left?
Posted by jswerve386, Mon Dec-17-07 06:21 PM
http://imdb.com/title/tt0468569/

yup...
79402, Harley Quinn, Maybe? (SWIPE)
Posted by SammyJankis, Mon Sep-03-07 01:05 AM
I can only hope this is true, I am a big fan of Harley Quinn from Batman : TAS and I would love to see her in this with the Joker.
...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33863

Hey folks, Harry here... According to ThisIsNottingham.co.uk there's a rumor that a British Soap star has traded in the suds, for pancake makeup and lap position on Heath Leadger's JOKER in THE DARK KNIGHT. Or is she? There's a lot places for a beautiful actress in a small part in THE DARK KNIGHT, but at this point, I've heard nothing about Harley Quinn - or even her pre-identity appearing in the film - and nothing in any of the original source articles give details on her role. So - as much as many of you want to see the Joker's wet dream, and ours... Nolan has been grounding this series more than making it a Where's Waldo affair. But who knows - maybe the toy companies have gotten to him...
...
Another one about Sarah Michelle Gellar possibly playing her.

http://spaceramblings.blogsome.com/2007/03/29/sarah-michelle-gellar-to-play-harley-quinn-in-the-dark-knight/

Rumor has it going around that Sarah Michelle Gellar will be appearing as the Joker’s sidekick, Harley Quinn the Batman Begins sequel, The Dark Knight. Harley Quinn \ Dr. Quinzell, was a character created in the Batman animated series, which then appeared in the comic books and now will apparently make the transition to film as well.


79403, New Teaser Trailer
Posted by YaBoy...Holla@ME, Mon Sep-03-07 05:17 AM
found it on youtube, looks legit and I didn't see the link is this post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B27Ih15DQow

Edit: alright so it says it's fake. But where is the footage of Heath with the facepaint from?
79404, probably painted on.
Posted by Doc Maestro, Mon Sep-03-07 01:31 PM
79405, damn these kids got a lot of time on their hands
Posted by YaBoy...Holla@ME, Mon Sep-03-07 02:53 PM
that shit sure tricked the hell outta my drunk ass last night
79406, some sad news, no link but I heard a crew member died
Posted by Ceej, Tue Sep-25-07 10:32 PM
79407, Batman News: Batman To Have "Scary White Lenses" (SWIPE)
Posted by SammyJankis, Wed Oct-24-07 03:34 PM
http://filmwad.com/batman-news-batman-to-have-scary-white-lenses--5023-p.html

This is interesting. Looks like Batman's new mask (in "The Dark Knight") has a "Bat-sonar detection" mode (whatever that means) that turns his eyes a scary shade of white. Though this information is coming from a Yahoo-translated German site, so some of the details might be lost in the language shuffle.

Other news from the site (also translated) that's less surprising? We know Batman goes to Hong Kong to do "gangster hunting;" we know the preview of the flick showing during the "I Am Legend" IMAX screenings will be the first five minutes of the film and we know the film doesn't totally explore the origins of the Joker. It's very interesting that this flick more than any we've seen in a while has had a steady stream of information leaks since DAY ONE. There were set photos since the first day. One wonders if it's all planned. Hmmm.

But still…white lenses? Crazy!

79408, possible teaser poster...
Posted by eldealo, Fri Oct-26-07 02:51 PM
http://www.deviousnoise.com/features/detail.php?id=darkknight
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/
79409, i'm geeked.
Posted by MigiTTy, Fri Oct-26-07 03:06 PM
79410, i hope not
Posted by xangeluvr, Fri Oct-26-07 10:33 PM
i don't like it.
79411, you're that bothered by a potential teaser poster?
Posted by eldealo, Sat Oct-27-07 01:09 PM

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Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/
79412, RE: you're that bothered by a potential teaser poster?
Posted by xangeluvr, Sun Oct-28-07 08:05 PM
how does it come off like i'm all that bothered by it? he posted a potential poster for the movie and i simply stated that i don't like it. it just looks kinda cheesy.
79413, i was just trippin off "i hope not"...
Posted by eldealo, Mon Oct-29-07 11:50 AM
it kinda read like you were going to be seriously disappointed if it did turn out to be legit.

no biggie. i misunderstood you.
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Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/
79414, That's fan made
Posted by keishashasha, Sun Oct-28-07 07:26 AM
79415, We've seen what's going on the site now, right?
Posted by Monkey Genius, Sun Oct-28-07 05:09 PM
www.whysoserious.com

I think we may be seeing Two-Face soon.
79416, I could be wrong but...
Posted by mrshow, Sun Oct-28-07 09:02 PM
I don't think Two-Face comes into the picture until the end of the flick. If that's true, I have a feeling they won't be releasing any promo stills of Eckhart in make-up.
79417, Half of that Jack-O-Lantern's face has been gradually rotting for a week...
Posted by Monkey Genius, Mon Oct-29-07 07:13 AM
That shit better be leading up to something.
79418, they did the same thing to Harvey Dent's face earlier this year.
Posted by mochalox, Thu Nov-08-07 03:07 PM
you must've missed that one.
79419, Came in the post to ask about this!!!!
Posted by BLACK_ADAM, Mon Oct-29-07 09:42 AM
What y'all think is going to happen? This is the best marketing of a movie EVER!!!!!!! I'm over her geeking the *&%&% out!!!!!
79420, WOW @ whysoserious.com's update *SPOILERS*
Posted by keishashasha, Wed Oct-31-07 06:19 AM
All the clues lead to a letter in a sign or a building of some sorts.
So all the clues together will lead to???
79421, Wow.
Posted by DawgEatah, Wed Oct-31-07 09:36 AM

http://fuck-your.blogspot.com
http://www.myspace.com/insightclopediabrown
http://www.myspace.com/dumhi
http://www.youtube.com/group/okayplayer
http://www.last.fm/user/DawgEatah
R.I.P. 3rd i
79422, Albuquerque is fucking up.
Posted by Monkey Genius, Wed Oct-31-07 02:38 PM
.
79423, click on the tip of the X-Acto knife...
Posted by mochalox, Thu Nov-08-07 03:24 PM
nm
79424, man...
Posted by universally_speaking, Thu Nov-08-07 03:54 PM
i spent like 3 mins clicking the 'tip' of the knife. the actual blade part.

:\ u should have send the non-blade end...
79425, new image and new website
Posted by SammyJankis, Thu Nov-01-07 04:35 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34649
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/jokerincar.jpg

http://www.rorysdeathkiss.com/
79426, HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!! those pics are gonna be funny.
Posted by DawgEatah, Thu Nov-01-07 04:53 PM

http://fuck-your.blogspot.com
http://www.myspace.com/insightclopediabrown
http://www.myspace.com/dumhi
http://www.youtube.com/group/okayplayer
http://www.last.fm/user/DawgEatah
R.I.P. 3rd i
79427, How The Joker Meets The Dark Knight ***Spoiler***
Posted by SammyJankis, Wed Nov-07-07 11:24 AM
note: not too big of a spoiler but a cool plot point to introduce the joker.

The Clown Prince’s Ransom: How The Joker Meets The Dark Knight

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/the-clown-princes-ransom-how-the-joker-meets-the-dark-knight.php

Our good friends over at LatinoReview.com shot an awesome tidbit about The Dark Knight over to us. It seems that Kellvin Chavez has some insider news on how the Batman will be introduced to The Clown Prince in this highly anticipated flick. This news might just be able to stifle all of the negative criticism around the look of Heath Ledger’s Joker. This news has definitely brought some more excitement to the project.

Kellvin Chavez of LatinoReview.com has just reported some news around The Dark Knight. His anonymous source has leaked a huge plot point for the introduction of The Joker and Batman. This might be considered a spoiler, but it just makes me even more excited about the film. Here is what his source has to say:

“The Dark Knight begins with the Joker robbing a huge bank (we’ve seen photos of this everywhere). The bank is where the mob and all the gangs in Gotham keep all of their money. The Joker takes this money and holds it “ransom”. The Joker then says to the mob and the gangs of Gotham, “If you help me take down Batman, you’ll get your money back. If not, I’m going to burn it all.” This is how the Joker assembles his army to take down Batman.”

In my humble opinion, this makes the film’s prospect a whole lot more interesting. Keep reading for more coverage of The Dark Knight.
79428, Why would all of them kep their money in the same bank?
Posted by Mr Mech, Wed Nov-07-07 01:29 PM
I don't know, I hope there's a good explanation behind this.

Mech
79429, When have you ever known criminals not to sweat the small things??
Posted by BLACK_ADAM, Wed Nov-07-07 01:50 PM
The amount of money that the mobs/gangs have in the bank may be small compared to what they have "stashed"

Banks provide legal "cover" for operations that have legitimate business arms/concerns..

The robbery is more of an affront to those crime families rather than a crippling blow to their capital concerns. Imagine the "Roman" being like: "Ah... It's just our legal bank account...I'll let that slide..."


"...crabs wanna play me close and grab...can't believe you on the canvas...I'm just throwin' jabs...Where the powers you supposed to have??? Hand in your soldier rag! You posin' bad...show your ass son you won't last!" - INS
79430, they made a deal
Posted by sevencents, Wed Nov-07-07 02:36 PM
maybe it was a mutual agreement between all the gangsters that everyone would keep their money in that one bank and that would be the ONE bank that nobody ever robbed.

i like this premise of joker baiting all the mobsters and gangsters to help him hunt down batman. its sets up a stong threat right off the break - unlike in batman returns where you have to wait 1/2 thru the movie to find out the evil plan of the penguin is to have his army of penguins kidnap the kids of gotham (yawn)

7c


79431, RE: they made a deal
Posted by jigga, Wed Nov-07-07 05:50 PM
>maybe it was a mutual agreement between all the gangsters
>that everyone would keep their money in that one bank and that
>would be the ONE bank that nobody ever robbed.
>
>i like this premise of joker baiting all the mobsters and
>gangsters to help him hunt down batman. its sets up a stong
>threat right off the break - unlike in batman returns where
>you have to wait 1/2 thru the movie to find out the evil plan
>of the penguin is to have his army of penguins kidnap the kids
>of gotham (yawn)

I didn't really mind or notice due to the Catwoman "filler" prior to all that.
79432, Since when do depositors lose money when a bank is robbed?
Posted by OldPro, Wed Nov-07-07 05:58 PM
Do Gotham banks not know about insurance?

Unless the bank is stashing the money on the DL for the gangsters this seems dumb plot.
79433, why are yall cats trying to over analyze this shit
Posted by Deluge, Wed Nov-07-07 07:22 PM
its about a millionaire dressing up as a bad battling superhuman villains

whats realistic about that in the first place?

just fucking enjoy the movie once its out
it'll be good
79434, There were "superhuman villains" in Batman Begins?
Posted by OldPro, Wed Nov-07-07 07:50 PM
79435, ra's.
Posted by Deluge, Sat Nov-24-07 07:13 PM
altho its never literally mentioned in it
they hint at it
especially in the novelization
79436, Batman is real!!!!!!!
Posted by Scrapluv, Wed Nov-07-07 09:48 PM
79437, Last I checked...The FDIC insures up to $100K PER ACCOUNT
Posted by BLACK_ADAM, Thu Nov-08-07 04:24 PM
...anything over that amount is *whoosh*....."your loss"



Any bank robbery is bad.... But asserting the "Joker context" and comic proportion...he probably has arranged to CLEAN OUT the entire bank.


That...is/would be crippling to the local "Gotham" economy as there are no doubt, many legal businesses and interests tied to the bank. The mob has to clean their money too...


Reference: "The Long Halloween" trade..... particularly the portion that references "The Roman" and his warehouses that are just holding cash... That should put the concept in better perspective. The Joker will have effectively made the mob families "Legally Broke"..... While they have plenty of "Dirty Money"...the lifestyles they lead are justified by the "Laundered Money".... Anything else would incriminate them to Federal concerns....


The plot point of the Joker ransoming their "Laundered Money" is brilliant!

"Behind every great fortune...there is a crime...."
79438, What? No new Updates? No discussion? Speculation???
Posted by BLACK_ADAM, Thu Nov-15-07 02:21 PM

"...crabs wanna play me close and grab...can't believe you on the canvas...I'm just throwin' jabs...Where the powers you supposed to have??? Hand in your soldier rag! You posin' bad...show your ass son you won't last!" - INS
79439, New URLs
Posted by gusto, Fri Nov-23-07 03:27 PM
taken from GD
http://thegothamtimes.com
http://www.thehahahatimes.com Jokers Site
http://wearetheanswer.org/ Report a corrupt cop
http://gothampolice.com/ GPD website
http://gothamnationalbank.com/ The Gotham bank
http://rememberinggina.org/ Some Gotham person who died
http://gothamcityhall.com/ Is under construction

And another Joker email:
humanresources@whysoserious.com

they should "hack" gothamist.com one day.
79440, this is how you build excitement for a movie
Posted by SammyJankis, Sat Nov-24-07 05:10 PM
79441, why're minority applicants "encouraged to apply" to the Gotham PD?
Posted by mochalox, Mon Dec-03-07 12:51 PM
C O N 'spiracy.
79442, adding: http://www.arkhamasylum.com/
Posted by mochalox, Mon Dec-03-07 01:05 PM
nm
79443, i bet some ppl are making their own fake websites
Posted by gusto, Mon Dec-03-07 01:39 PM
to add to the hype
79444, It looked >that< bad, huh?
Posted by mochalox, Mon Dec-03-07 01:59 PM
lol

it probably is
79445, no not at all, just saying, i bet ppl are doing this
Posted by gusto, Mon Dec-03-07 02:21 PM
ppl did it with "LOST" when all those sites were popping up. free pub i guess.
79446, and whysoserious has a new survey/questionnaire up
Posted by mochalox, Mon Dec-03-07 02:12 PM
nm
79447, shit...*grabs late pass*
Posted by lfresh, Sun Nov-25-07 07:16 AM
omg i got some catching up to do
~~~~
"It's good to know us guys will continue to have employment opportunities as human-atm-machines, garbage men, bug killers, and heavy lifters for our female overlords."
~~~~

http://unodostres.etsy.com
79448, IMAX FEATURE (link)
Posted by Tiger Woods, Mon Nov-26-07 11:36 AM
http://www.imax.com/ImaxWeb/xtras/?dl=beo/screeningroom/btn1/dk/dk_prologue
79449, and keep an eye on this site (link)
Posted by Tiger Woods, Tue Nov-27-07 12:05 AM
http://www.empireonline.com/heiscoming/
79450, Here's the Joker image, in advance...
Posted by Monkey Genius, Tue Nov-27-07 12:20 PM
http://www3.telus.net/seaviewgraphics/comic_news_images/a_newjoker.jpg
79451, does this fit in with the new Batman?
Posted by Clark Kent, Fri Nov-30-07 01:07 AM
??? I have mixed feelings
79452, RE: does this fit in with the new Batman?
Posted by eldealo, Fri Nov-30-07 06:22 PM
I think it does. it fits as much as it can in a world where a man dresses up like a bat.

giving him a scarred face due to skin lacerations rather than a fixed smile seems a little more believable in this world of batman. i think the face paint ends up being smeared due to chemical burns. nailing the personality is the most important.
79453, i agree
Posted by universally_speaking, Sun Dec-02-07 04:54 PM
it does fit and i cant wait
79454, New Batman/Joker pics
Posted by Melanism, Sun Dec-02-07 11:25 AM
http://www.uruloki.org/felipeblog/cine-de-ciencia-ficcin/exclusiva-mundial-seis-fotos-promocionales-de-the-dark-knight-nunca-vistas-y-otras-noticias-de-domingo
79455, oh my.
Posted by Tiger Woods, Mon Dec-03-07 11:01 AM

just....wow
79456, still love the joker look...but those promo pics are awful.
Posted by eldealo, Mon Dec-03-07 11:44 AM

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/
79457, NEW JOKER PIC (COVER OF EMPIRE MAGAZINE)
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Tue Dec-04-07 04:40 AM
haha @ them reworking the whole design of the cover.
i love this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/Jinxtr12/empirejoker.jpg

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major win.
http://irreverentbastards.blogspot.com/
79458, And another one (from Wizard Magazine)...
Posted by Monkey Genius, Tue Dec-04-07 04:12 PM
http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/006550/Dark%20Knight%20Opener.JPG
79459, Descriptions of the opening 7 minutes...
Posted by Monkey Genius, Tue Dec-04-07 01:45 PM
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/movies/batmanbegins2/006550689.cfm
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1575671/20071203/story.jhtml
79460, And another one...
Posted by Monkey Genius, Tue Dec-04-07 02:33 PM
http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/movieblog/more/first_six_minutes_of_the_dark_knight_debuted_on_imax_in_nyc/
79461, wow...
Posted by universally_speaking, Tue Dec-04-07 03:24 PM
i... really... cant... wait...
79462, Official poster...
Posted by Monkey Genius, Tue Dec-04-07 08:57 PM
http://images.comicbookresources.com/reel/darkknight/postersmall-1.jpg
79463, is it really official?
Posted by universally_speaking, Tue Dec-04-07 09:53 PM
either way, it looks cool. i like it.
79464, that is SO fucking great
Posted by Deluge, Tue Dec-04-07 10:03 PM
79465, oh my damn
Posted by duD, Tue Dec-04-07 10:45 PM
79466, fucking sick
Posted by LA2Philly, Wed Dec-05-07 03:11 AM
79467, holt shit. this movie has THEE best marketing ever.
Posted by duD, Wed Dec-05-07 05:06 PM
http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/12/05/the-dark-knights-viral-marketing-gets-very-real-cakes-cell-phones-and-all/
79468, wow
Posted by xangeluvr, Fri Dec-14-07 12:26 PM
>http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/12/05/the-dark-knights-viral-marketing-gets-very-real-cakes-cell-phones-and-all/

that is fucking brilliant!
79469, first 7 minutes in front of "I Am Legend" IMAX? (swipe)
Posted by ternary_star, Wed Dec-05-07 05:51 PM
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/7-Minutes-Of-Dark-Knight-6656.html

It looks like the first place you’ll be able to get a good look at The Dark Knight won’t be online or in theaters. The guys over at the Brazilian site Omelete say a 7 minute, Joker-focused teaser for the film will show for the first time in IMAX cinemas in front of Will Smith’s I Am Legend this December.
79470, well then, im def going to see that shit in imax now.
Posted by Mic_Specialist, Thu Dec-06-07 06:30 AM
79471, shaky trailer...
Posted by eldealo, Fri Dec-14-07 09:03 AM
this is legit, but a cam version of the trailer.

http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=30438

international dark knight teaser poster
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35056

another international dark knight teaser poster
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35066


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http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/
79472, WOWY ZOWY!
Posted by Clark Kent, Fri Dec-14-07 09:39 AM
*BOOOIIIING*
79473, i was just about to show my brother and i see that it is taken down.
Posted by eldealo, Fri Dec-14-07 10:24 AM

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/
79474, yes, i am getting excited for this!
Posted by eldealo, Fri Dec-14-07 11:51 AM
in this batman universe, the joker should look freakish, somewhat deformed, and definitely someone you would not want to see face to face. nicholson's version in nolan's version would not be very threatening. from what we can tell so far, dude is straight disturbed. his dialogue in the beginning is interesting.


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http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/
79475, thank you...
Posted by universally_speaking, Fri Dec-14-07 10:07 PM
VERY much!
79476, Two International Posters That Blow The US Out of the Water
Posted by Melanism, Fri Dec-14-07 11:13 AM
Batman:
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/darkknightintbig.jpg

Joker:
http://www.judao.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/the_dark_knight_outro_poster.jpg
79477, seriously...why do we always get the tarded-up versions?
Posted by ternary_star, Fri Dec-14-07 11:23 AM
79478, new trailer...cam version again.
Posted by eldealo, Fri Dec-14-07 11:16 AM
these are flash videos of the trailer
(i know this one works) http://tinyurl.com/2u2pzx

(i also found a link for the trailer here) http://tinyurl.com/24veyp
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79479, what are the chances...
Posted by universally_speaking, Fri Dec-14-07 10:08 PM
that we get a link to that exclusive IMAX preview by the end of the week?

79480, has to be by tomorrow
Posted by illadelphgurl, Sat Dec-15-07 01:34 AM
really!
79481, is that the 7 minute preview that is supposed to debut?
Posted by eldealo, Sat Dec-15-07 03:13 AM
i figured it was just the trailer.

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79482, nah, its a full 7 mins of a certain scene...
Posted by universally_speaking, Sat Dec-15-07 01:40 PM
the scene being the 1st time we're introduced to the joker and his gang in a bank.
79483, i printscreen *everything*
Posted by illadelphgurl, Sat Dec-15-07 01:34 AM
http://a346.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/72/l_9c852e4ce5429a7e1b8c79f0eafde0e9.jpg

tehehe
79484, morbid as fuck! i love it.
Posted by eldealo, Sat Dec-15-07 03:11 AM
79485, hell yea...
Posted by universally_speaking, Sat Dec-15-07 01:42 PM
a .gif of that 3 sec clip would be the best ever...
79486, for you junkies.... *IMAX preview (Bootleg)
Posted by universally_speaking, Sat Dec-15-07 01:54 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dYThU7waK8I


bad camera position.. but its the only one i've seen yet.
i'd hurry before the video is taken down...
79487, damn WB doesn't fuck around
Posted by Mgmt, Sat Dec-15-07 03:35 PM
79488, (trailer) new linky....
Posted by da_illest_one, Sat Dec-15-07 06:10 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=teq5Wtg3VGA

this will be the best Batman film ever made....
79489, yea, thats the new trailer...
Posted by universally_speaking, Sat Dec-15-07 06:36 PM
but what i linked up was the Joker @ the Bank scene which was exclusively shown at selected IMAX theaters.

unfortionatly, WB shut down any leaked videos showing it.

now THATS a MUST see video.

Side note: the trailer had already been posted eailer
79490, I think so too... drama + action is all I neeed
Posted by Jru, Sun Dec-16-07 07:58 PM

>
>this will be the best Batman film ever made....
79491, Here it is (while it lasts):
Posted by Monkey Genius, Sun Dec-16-07 10:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwV_SOgvq2s
79492, thx
Posted by universally_speaking, Sun Dec-16-07 10:14 AM
this one has a better quality then the one i saw before...
79493, gracias..now thats how you rob a bank
Posted by rdhull, Sun Dec-16-07 12:04 PM
now thats how you rob a bank..you dont play Partyman
79494, yes, yes, and...
Posted by xangeluvr, Sun Dec-16-07 06:41 PM
yes.

that is just lovely. nolan is my hero.
79495, holyfuckingshit.
Posted by duD, Mon Dec-17-07 02:21 AM
79496, wouldn't you just know it
Posted by xangeluvr, Sat Dec-15-07 07:49 PM
this is the message i get from my local IMAX theater:

"Due to equipment failure there will be no showings of any films in the Boeing IMAX Theater until further notice, this includes I Am Legend. We apologize for the inconvenience."

i need a link to the 6 minute short ASAP.
79497, RE: wouldn't you just know it
Posted by freedomtrain, Sat Dec-15-07 09:16 PM
>this is the message i get from my local IMAX theater:
>
>"Due to equipment failure there will be no showings of any
>films in the Boeing IMAX Theater until further notice, this
>includes I Am Legend. We apologize for the inconvenience."
>
>i need a link to the 6 minute short ASAP.

That really SuCKS. Myself and "M" was just there Friday watching the film. They are losing a gang money over this.
79498, I saw the trailer when i went to see I Am Legend
Posted by HighVoltage, Sun Dec-16-07 04:39 PM
Not the IMAX 7 min thing, just the full trailer and I got a boonerr (c) McLovin

Heath Ledger looked so fucking good as the joker.

It looks incredible, I cannot wait.
79499, look at a few posts above urs...
Posted by universally_speaking, Sun Dec-16-07 06:20 PM
a link to the 6 min IMAX preview
79500, i saw the imax link but the actual official trailer is much better
Posted by HighVoltage, Sun Dec-16-07 06:51 PM
you really get to see the joker.

edit: this one http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=30438
79501, The trailer is up!! (link)
Posted by HighVoltage, Sun Dec-16-07 08:29 PM
http://www.atasteforthetheatrical.com/deathtrap/default.htm
79502, I came in here to post this. awsome.
Posted by Scrapluv, Sun Dec-16-07 09:10 PM
79503, WOW
Posted by zachattack, Sun Dec-16-07 09:13 PM
I looked a couple of the leaked youtubes but this one is the fuckin real deal. I'm beyond geeked
79504, yo...the "THEN YOU'RE GONNA LOVE ME" part is just ill
Posted by Tiger Woods, Mon Dec-17-07 01:09 AM
79505, ^^^Best line of the trailer. Great delivery from Bale too
Posted by jigga, Mon Dec-17-07 06:33 PM
79506, FUCK.YES.
Posted by araQual, Mon Dec-17-07 03:22 AM
V.
79507, It's gonna be too fucking good
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Dec-17-07 04:25 AM
my god
79508, can i just reiterate
Posted by xangeluvr, Mon Dec-17-07 01:39 AM
and say that heath ledger NAILED that laugh. both the new trailer and 6 minute preview are badass!
79509, yeah, this movie seems to be casted perfectly
Posted by HighVoltage, Mon Dec-17-07 03:08 AM
and a lot of us were surprised with them choosing Ledger over fan-favorite choices (johnny depp, adrien brody, etc.).... but damn! He looks absolutely perfect as the joker!
79510, cosign. batman begins gave nolan a lot of pull it seems.
Posted by eldealo, Mon Dec-17-07 04:27 AM
its still amazing that bale was even cast as batman. i guess ledger was a bit more well known going into this movie, but its still such an unlikely choice for a blockbuster film. it was a smart move casting almost all of the supporting roles with high profile actors like cain, freeman, and oldman.
79511, the thing with fan favorites is
Posted by Deluge, Mon Dec-17-07 07:59 AM
fans base their picks mostly on looks
and on previous roles more so than the real acting talent meaning that they pick actors who have done a comparable role so to prove their point

the thing they dont think of when studios/directors eventually pick people like ledger is that we as fans know NOTHING about this movie at that point

people were crying out how ledger was a stupid choice but its not as if they had read the script or know nolan's vision on this character and who fits that best

fanboys need to stfu
79512, excellent point
Posted by eldealo, Mon Dec-17-07 01:10 PM
79513, Crispin Glover still woulda been dope, DAMMIT!
Posted by DawgEatah, Mon Dec-17-07 07:51 PM
lol




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79514, Batman: Gotham Knight
Posted by universally_speaking, Mon Dec-17-07 04:59 PM
Okay, did anyone else know about this??? What really gets me hyped up is the fact that Bruce Timm is directing these shorts.

Basically, a series of animated shorts will be made (kinda like the Animatrix) but will be set during the time between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.


LINK:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-12-08/japanese-anime-studios-confirmed-for-batman-video


"The "2008 Movie Spectacular" special issue of Wizard magazine reports that Japan's Studio 4°C, Production I.G, and Madhouse are animating Batman: Gotham Knight, a collection of six shorts about the iconic DC Comics detective. All three studios worked with Warner Brothers on another trans-Pacific collection of animated shorts with a Hollywood movie tie-in: The Animatrix. Although the Gotham Knight shorts are compatible with storyline of the Batman Begins and The Dark Knight films that Christopher Nolan has been directing for Warner Brothers, they are also standalone stories. The collection is scheduled for the summer of 2008.

Bruce Timm, the acclaimed creator and producer of many of the animated DC Universe projects since 1992, is directing the shorts. Batman comic writers Brian Azzarello and Greg Rucka, A History of Violence film writer Josh Olson, Batman Begins writer David S. Goyer, The Dark Knight producer Jordan Goldberg, and Batman: The Animated Series writer Alan Burnett are each contributing the script for one of the shorts.

This project is not the first time that Japanese artists have interpreted the Dark Knight. The animators of Tokyo Movie Shinsha and Sunrise worked with Timm on portions of Batman: The Animated Series during the 1990s. Manga artist Kia Asamiya has been a longtime fan of Batman, and his Batman renderings have been appearing on magazine covers, collectible figures, and the 2000-2001 Batman: The Child of Dreams series. Famed manga artist and director Katsuhiro Otomo created "The Third Mask" short story in DC Comics' Batman: Black & White #4 in 1996."
79515, yeah thats been known for over a year. really hyped for that.
Posted by Deluge, Mon Dec-17-07 07:09 PM
79516, guess I get a late pass...
Posted by universally_speaking, Tue Dec-18-07 09:58 AM
unless i totally forgot about hearining it.

either way, its something i'm now eargerly anticipating.
79517, i hadn't heard of it either. but man does it sound badass
Posted by araQual, Tue Dec-18-07 02:10 PM
V.
79518, 6 minute prologue link
Posted by ACRG, Tue Dec-18-07 03:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC39hYjTQ-U
79519, another poster from last week...
Posted by universally_speaking, Thu Dec-20-07 11:16 AM
but i dont think i saw a link to it in the above posts.

http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/onesheet.jpg
79520, that is, once again, awesome
Posted by araQual, Tue Jan-08-08 01:40 AM
V.
79521, The shit look like its gonna be corny to me.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Jan-07-08 06:51 AM

Just my opinion.

79522, u gotta be the only dude on the planet who thinks this will suck
Posted by araQual, Mon Jan-07-08 01:20 PM
V.
79523, ur corny to me.
Posted by universally_speaking, Mon Jan-07-08 04:41 PM
what about this movie looks corny? i would like to know.
79524, I see. You guys are still gay up in here. I got good reasons.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-08-08 05:27 AM
>what about this movie looks corny? i would like to know.

'Batman Begins' was splendid.

Splendid.

Splendid.


The reasons why we loved it so much, were, however,
very contextual:

a) It was a real origin story. Never been done in a
super hero movie, at least recently. It was done and
done well.

b)It came AFTER BATMAN AND ROBIN and so our expectations
had dropped to an all-time low. We didn't expect shit.
The fact that it was well made and "dark" made it particularly
intriguing.


The sad truth is that the actual Batman-villain
interactions in 'Batman Begins' were actually kind of
corny, and the first half of the movie was substantially
better than the second half of the movie. Cry if you want
to, but that is true. Nobody cared about the nigga wearing
the mask, or any of that dumbass shit. No one cared about
Katie Holmes fighting drug kingpins. We all but dozed off
in those scenes because her character sucked and her conflict
was cliche and unnecessary to even make that film good.

So what did we like?

We liked to see Bruce in Tibet, whooping ass, doing the
god body knowledge, learning the ropes. That is what
made that movie great.

Liam Neeson made that movie. Not his evil-ness. But
his philosophy. The organic-nature of his interactions
with Bruce early on.

We like Alfred.

We liked Detective Gordon.

We liked seeing how Gotham took to Batman.


Now that the whole origin novelty has worn off, we just
have another superhero movie that is "Dark."


Ummm...okay.


It'll be aight.


But not that good.


It'll be about as good as the 2nd half of
'Begins' which is a solid 'B' movie at best.

There will prolly be some cornball shit up
in there though.

79525, i *shock, horror* actually agree with your summation of BB
Posted by shockzilla, Tue Jan-08-08 07:53 AM
but i think TDK will be bats' xmen 2

(btw, the first spiderman movie was an origin story, no?)
79526, Lots of superhero movies have origins in them.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-08-08 09:54 AM
>but i think TDK will be bats' xmen 2
>
>(btw, the first spiderman movie was an origin story, no?)

I think that BB was MOSTLY about why and how
Batman did what he did.

Spiderman had that in it, but had real bad guy
villain interactions more substantive than BB.


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79527, Scarecrow & Ras Ah Guhl>>>>>>>>>Any version of Green Goblin
Posted by jigga, Tue Jan-08-08 02:33 PM

>Spiderman had that in it, but had real bad guy
>villain interactions more substantive than BB.

Maybe the interactions were more substantive but the villain's in BB were better than the Green Goblin. GG was corny as fuck.
79528, Thanks for the irrelevant opinion.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-08-08 04:19 PM

I'm not the one who originally compared Spiderman to BB.

And of course BB was better than Spiderman.




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79529, Likewise
Posted by jigga, Tue Jan-08-08 04:58 PM
79530, RE: Thanks for the irrelevant opinion.
Posted by Never, Tue Jul-08-08 12:11 AM
Interesting. I turned BB off 1/2way through. Heath Ledger is the IT for TDK.

Nothing beats Frank Miller's joint, though.
79531, * foh
Posted by universally_speaking, Tue Jan-08-08 03:09 PM

I asked why you thought TDK was gonna be corny, and then you ramble on about BB?

Judging by the trailer of TDK, there’s nothing seemingly corny about TDK (as far was we can tell).
79532, Doc Ock >>>>> Scarecrow, Liam Neeson
Posted by Tiger Woods, Tue Jan-08-08 06:51 PM
79533, What I think is going to happen
Posted by da_illest_one, Tue Jan-08-08 09:41 PM
Scarecrow will get captured and put back in Arkham Asylum
Harvey Dent won't turn into Two Face in this movie
Joker will seem to have died in some tragic disaster however a clue lets you know that he's still alive (classic villain turnout)
Michael Jai White's (Gamble) will only be a cameo role with a slight fight scene here or there
There will be no Riddler....
There will be no Harley Quinn....
The charactor known as Crock/Gator will only be a cameo....
There will be no Barbara Gordon; however Gordon will have a son
Lucius Fox will have a moderately intriguing role because of Morgan Freeman.....
If anyone actually dies in this film, it will be Rachel Daws, her character is too disposable....
The Batmobile gets totalled by some strange turn of events......
79534, also I'm betting that
Posted by Doc Maestro, Fri Jan-25-08 07:43 PM
Joker will fall into a vat of chemicals that fucks him up and explains why he'll look different if we ever see him in another batman movie now that the actor that originally portrayed the character has died.

I hope hope *hope* they shot something like that.

>Scarecrow will get captured and put back in Arkham Asylum
>Harvey Dent won't turn into Two Face in this movie
>Joker will seem to have died in some tragic disaster however a
>clue lets you know that he's still alive (classic villain
>turnout)
>Michael Jai White's (Gamble) will only be a cameo role with a
>slight fight scene here or there
>There will be no Riddler....
>There will be no Harley Quinn....
>The charactor known as Crock/Gator will only be a cameo....
>There will be no Barbara Gordon; however Gordon will have a
>son
>Lucius Fox will have a moderately intriguing role because of
>Morgan Freeman.....
>If anyone actually dies in this film, it will be Rachel Daws,
>her character is too disposable....
>The Batmobile gets totalled by some strange turn of
>events......
79535, wrong. wrong. wrong. *** SPOILERS ***
Posted by Deluge, Fri Jan-25-08 10:16 PM
>Scarecrow will get captured and put back in Arkham Asylum

scarecrow will work with/for joker and the mob (who are working with/for him too) to capture batman. or at least ruin his good image by having fake ones running around

>Harvey Dent won't turn into Two Face in this movie

its been shot

>Joker will seem to have died in some tragic disaster however a
>clue lets you know that he's still alive (classic villain
>turnout)

hes going to arkham

>Michael Jai White's (Gamble) will only be a cameo role with a
>slight fight scene here or there

thats already established. hes a mob dude. he wont have a huge role.

>There will be no Riddler....

already established/confirmed

>There will be no Harley Quinn....

nolan already said theres no way he'd have harley quinn in his movies

>The charactor known as Crock/Gator will only be a cameo....

thats out in the open

>There will be no Barbara Gordon; however Gordon will have a
>son

its already clear there will be no barbara gordon.

>Lucius Fox will have a moderately intriguing role because of
>Morgan Freeman.....

eh?

>If anyone actually dies in this film, it will be Rachel Daws,
>her character is too disposable....

loeb dies.

>The Batmobile gets totalled by some strange turn of
>events......

hes living in the city cause wayne manor burned down. kinda hard hiding a big ass tank there
79536, umm..
Posted by xbenzive, Tue Jan-08-08 11:07 AM
I won't be surprise right after you watch the movie, you'll say how dope it was.
79537, Right, because I'm not a bitch like y'all.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Jan-08-08 04:16 PM
>I won't be surprise right after you watch the movie, you'll
>say how dope it was.

If its hot, I'll man up and admit it with no problem.

I have no pride on dumb shit like movie opinions.

I'm saying I'm not expecting it to be a classic
for the reasons outlined above.

79538, http://www.whysoserious.com/
Posted by xbenzive, Fri Jan-25-08 11:02 AM
click on the picture behind then click on the Black Ribbon.
79539, the cake people
Posted by xangeluvr, Fri Jan-25-08 12:00 PM
those must be the people that got the cakes and cell phones. i bet they were called up and instructed to do that ish. that is awesome.
79540, what do u all see?
Posted by universally_speaking, Fri Jan-25-08 05:13 PM
i click on the ribon and it takes me to the same old page...
79541, my heart is broken, guys.
Posted by illadelphgurl, Sat Jan-26-08 01:17 AM
man oh man.
79542, 2 new images...
Posted by eldealo, Wed Jan-30-08 06:57 AM
http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=6723
79543, TWO FACE TOY REVEALED
Posted by Deluge, Thu Feb-21-08 09:40 AM
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080220c.php
79544, Damn, is Dent gonna turn into Two Face already?
Posted by DawgEatah, Thu Feb-21-08 12:58 PM
I hope not.



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79545, well...
Posted by xbenzive, Thu Feb-21-08 04:43 PM
I believe the story centers around Harvy Dent too, it's just The Joker is in the middle of the battle. I remember Nolan mention this in a interview, "Two Face" might not be in it.

but all in all, we really don't know if the toys are true.


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79546, spoilers, possibly
Posted by justin_scott, Tue Mar-11-08 04:51 PM
i hope i remember this right. i think the second movie revolves around the joker's trial, and i think that's when he throws acid in dent's face.
79547, A couple new stills & NYT article (edit: swipe now included)
Posted by jigga, Tue Mar-11-08 04:00 PM
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_begins_2_the_dark_knight/news/1663410/

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/movies/09halb.html?pagewanted=1

Batman’s Burden: A Director Confronts Darkness and Death

A DREARY office plaza at Wabash Street and the river, late afternoon. A mist blows in from Lake Michigan. Producers and idle actors huddle under a flimsy canopy; grips hastily unfold another over their high-priced gear. A few stories overhead, a stunt double in a familiar black-caped costume swings from a hoist, slamming into a window in a Mies van der Rohe tower that we shall imagine is Gotham City Hall. A noose is around his neck, a knife plunged into his heart.

The meaning is clear: Batman, or at least his döppelganger, is dead.

Christopher Nolan, the director of “The Dark Knight” — the follow-up to his 2005 franchise reboot, “Batman Begins” — is unperturbed by the rain, but a tiny detail irks him. “Hey, buster!” he shouts to the stuntman, craning his neck skyward and raising his voice for the first time all day (politely, as ever, but enough so he can be heard). “Could you turn yourself a little more to the left?”

In so many ways this isn’t what you’d expect of a $180 million Hollywood comic-book movie sequel with a zillion moving parts, a cast of thousands and sets from here to Hong Kong. Anyone else would shoot indoors, use digital effects or wait for clear skies; Mr. Nolan rolls with the weather’s punches, believing that the messiness of reality can’t be faked. Another filmmaker would leave a shot like this in the hands of a second-unit director, but Mr. Nolan doesn’t use one; if it’s on the screen, he directed it, and his longtime cinematographer, Wally Pfister, worked the camera. Stars on any other movie would have fled to their trailers to wait in comfort until needed again. Here, Gary Oldman is watching and shivering along with everybody else, cracking jokes to keep warm.

Yet Mr. Nolan, 37, has barely changed his approach to filmmaking since his 2000 indie-smash “Memento,” the film noir in reverse starring Guy Pearce that Mr. Nolan’s brother, Jonathan, dreamed up, and Christopher Nolan made for $5 million. “A movie is a movie,” he says. So he’s still scribbling new dialogue on the set, improvising camera moves as he goes, letting his actors decide when it’s time to move on and otherwise racing through each day as if his money might run out. It’s just that his jazz combo of a crew has mushroomed into a philharmonic — with whole new sections of prosthetics artists, special-effects wizards and so on. “But we’re still all riffing off of him,” Mr. Pfister says.

That kind of maestro is just what Warner Brothers wanted five years ago when it hired Mr. Nolan to restore a jewel of a property that had become a laughingstock with Joel Schumacher’s 1997 reviled “Batman and Robin,” best remembered for George Clooney’s nipple suit.

But any risks inherent in giving over such a huge franchise, with so much history and potential, to an auteur untested at making blockbusters were outweighed by the need to re-establish credibility with Batman’s alienated fan base. “If the people who make the film aren’t taking it seriously,” Mr. Nolan said, summarizing fans’ view of the 1997 movie, “why should we?”

Now the question is whether Mr. Nolan’s vision of Batman can not only maintain its hold on the imaginations of comic fans and critics, but expand its reach to a wider summer moviegoing audience, even as the death of Heath Ledger, who played the Joker in “The Dark Knight,” has added unanticipated morbidity to the film’s deliberate darkness.

But if Mr. Nolan was feeling any stress on the set in Chicago last year, his easygoing reserve concealed it. Dressed, as always, in his own somewhat formal uniform — dark blazer, waistcoat, French cuffs; a thermos of tea in hand; a wireless video monitor around his neck — he also seemed a bit of a throwback. While many filmmakers watch in seclusion on television screens, he stood next to the camera, always on his feet unless he was kneeling to whisper in someone’s ear. “Acting is such a vulnerable thing, you don’t want to be told in front of others that you’ve made a mistake, or ‘Try this,’ ” said Aaron Eckhart, who plays Harvey Dent, a district attorney. “Chris understands that.”

But then, it hasn’t been so long since Mr. Nolan bootstrapped himself into the film business, cobbling together bits of 16-millimeter film stock with $6,000 to make his first feature, “Following” (1998), over a year’s worth of weekends. “Memento,” which came next, was a critical smash, and with Steven Soderbergh’s endorsement, he landed his first studio assignment: directing Al Pacino and Hilary Swank in “Insomnia” (2002) on a $50 million budget.

That fall, after slaving over a screenplay about Howard Hughes only to have Martin Scorsese beat him to the punch, Mr. Nolan put together a passionate 45-minute pitch for rewinding the Batman saga to its beginning. Alan Horn, Warner’s president, approved it on the spot. “Besides his excitement about the story he wanted to tell, he just brings a certain weight and credibility,” said Jeff Robinov, the studio’s No. 2 executive, who had first tried to interest Mr. Nolan in “Troy.”

Three times the cost of “Insomnia” and far greater in scope, “Batman Begins” catapulted Mr. Nolan into the top tier of mainstream filmmakers. Critics mostly loved it, though some seemed to resent him for leaving the indie world behind. While not an overpowering blockbuster, with $205 million in domestic box office, it expanded the audience for Batman well beyond comic fans. And it gave Warner Brothers a superhero who could hold his head up next to Sony’s Spider-Man and Fox’s X-Men.

His Caped Crusader, Christian Bale (who also starred in Mr. Nolan’s entr’acte between the Batman films, “The Prestige”), recalls how “people would kind of laugh” when they heard that he and Mr. Nolan were taking Batman seriously. But when they finally saw the film, the same people “would say, ‘What a surprise,’ “ Mr. Bale said. “I believe that even the most popcornlike movie can be done incredibly well, and can have something that you really have to work at. That was what attracted me to doing it the first time, because I felt I’d never seen that done, and I didn’t understand why.”

It’s enough to make a marketing executive cringe, that the word “dense” pops up in conversations with Mr. Nolan and his actors. But it’s true: “The Dark Knight,” which will be released on July 18, is jammed with characters, plot and action. It picks up where “Batman Begins” left off, with Mr. Oldman’s police lieutenant, Jim Gordon, warning about the perils of escalation: that Batman’s extreme measures could invite a like response from the criminal element. And sure enough, a deadly new villain, the Joker, emerges to wreak havoc.

In a political context this would politely be called an “unintended consequence.” (Gotham as Baghdad, anyone?) Mr. Nolan doesn’t deny the overtones. “As we looked through the comics, there was this fascinating idea that Batman’s presence in Gotham actually attracts criminals to Gotham, attracts lunacy,” he said. “When you’re dealing with questionable notions like people taking the law into their own hands, you have to really ask, where does that lead? That’s what makes the character so dark, because he expresses a vengeful desire.”

In Mr. Bale’s view “The Dark Knight” is an even lonelier outing for his character, who once naïvely thought his crime fighting could be a finite endeavor. “This escalation has now meant that he feels more of a duty to continue,” he said. “And now you have not just a young man in pain attempting to find some kind of an answer, you have somebody who actually has power, who is burdened by that power, and is having to recognize the difference between attaining that power and holding on to it.”

It may not be too much of a stretch to see another analogy here for Mr. Nolan: Rebooting the Batman franchise may be behind him, but he still has to improve upon it. Sequels are always trickier. And now he must also navigate the aftermath of the Jan. 22 death of Mr. Ledger.

It came well into editing, and only after the studio had introduced Mr. Ledger’s Joker through posters, trailers and a six-minute Imax short. But it automatically raised the stakes: the acclaimed actor’s final role would be ... a comic-book grotesque? Worse, though Mr. Ledger had finished work on “The Dark Knight” in October and was already halfway through another film, news that the prescription drugs that killed him included sleep aids — along with narcotics — prompted Internet chatter about whether his intense performance as the Joker, styled after Malcolm McDowell’s in “A Clockwork Orange,” had been a factor in his demise.

Mr. Ledger, however, also called it “the most fun I’ve ever had, or probably ever will have, playing a character.” But his fatigue was obvious, said Michael Caine, who briefly overlapped with him. “He was exhausted, I mean he was really tired. I remember saying to him, ‘I’m too old to have the bloody energy to play that part.’ And I thought to myself, I didn’t have the energy when I was his age.”

Mr. Pfister, the cinematographer, said Mr. Ledger seemed “like he was busting blood vessels in his head,” he was so intense. “It was like a séance, where the medium takes on another person and then is so completely drained.”

Will Mr. Ledger’s death cast a pall over “The Dark Knight,” whose tragic plot turns already make it much darker than “Batman Begins”? “We’ll see,” said Mr. Robinov, of Warner Brothers. Mr. Nolan, for his part, said he felt a “massive sense of responsibility” to do right by Mr. Ledger’s “terrifying, amazing” performance.

“It’s stunning, it’s iconic,” he said. “It’s going to just blow people away.”

All the talk of darkness obscures what may come as an aesthetic surprise in “The Dark Knight”: the creepy shadows and gothic Wayne Manor are gone, replaced by sleek towers, shiny surfaces, bright lighting and the vistas of a city with shoulders bigger than Batman’s. “I’ve tried to unclutter the Gotham we created on the last film,” said Nathan Crowley, Mr. Nolan’s production designer. “Gotham is in chaos. We keep blowing up stuff. So we can keep our images clean,” setting a solitary hero against the vastness of Chicago.

Mr. Nolan said he tried to make “Batman Begins” realistic by taking Wayne out of Gotham for portions of the story. For “The Dark Knight” he wanted Gotham to seem straight out of the news. “We just let everyone know up front: this is a location movie,” he said.

Mr. Nolan does his planning in his own tricked-out lair: a converted garage behind his home near the Hollywood hills (and just down the street from the Batcave entrance in the campy 1960s television series). There he and his producer-wife, Emma Thomas — who gave birth to their fourth child last September — gathered with Mr. Crowley, Mr. Pfister, the costume designer Lindy Hemming and other department heads to brainstorm. It’s where Mr. Crowley designed the tanklike Batmobile known as “the Tumbler,” where Ms. Hemming came up with a uniform that finally let Mr. Bale turn his head at the neck and where she first pitched the idea of the Joker as Johnny Rotten.

If he barely uses storyboards, let alone the computer-animated “previsualization” wizardry common to effects-heavy films, Mr. Nolan is on the cutting edge with one technology. He used the unwieldy Imax cameras to shoot about 30 minutes of “The Dark Knight,” including the entire opening.

“We’ve been trying to talk filmmakers into doing this for nearly 40 years,” said David Keighley, an old Imax hand. And even after a Steadicam collapsed under the weight of an Imax camera, Mr. Nolan held firm. “If David Lean could carry a 65-millimeter camera through the desert,” he said, “why shouldn’t we be able to do this?”

“It scares people a bit,” Mr. Nolan says of what could be called his planned-out impulsiveness. “We just go and shoot the stuff, and see what looks the best and what works. But on a big movie, you actually have more freedom. You can say, ‘O.K., it’s 3 in the morning — can we get the police to close down that street?’ ”


79548, can't wait
Posted by xangeluvr, Tue Mar-11-08 08:51 PM
i get more and more excited with every article i read. i can't wait to see what ledger did with this role. RIP
79549, Maybe they'll move the release date up like Iron Man did
Posted by jigga, Wed Mar-12-08 04:37 PM
I was kinda shocked to find out that the people behind Troy wanted to Nolan do it instead of Wolfgang. I would've loved to see Nolan's version. Wolf's was a huge let down.
79550, funny you mention it
Posted by xangeluvr, Wed Mar-12-08 10:42 PM
i just got troy in the mail from netflix. i saw it in the theater and remember being so let down, but now that its been a while i thought i'd give it another viewing to see if my opinion changes at all. i doubt it will, but we'll see.
79551, RE: funny you mention it
Posted by jigga, Thu Mar-13-08 11:10 AM
>i just got troy in the mail from netflix. i saw it in the
>theater and remember being so let down, but now that its been
>a while i thought i'd give it another viewing to see if my
>opinion changes at all. i doubt it will, but we'll see.

I was really excited to see it before it came out but didnt bother to see it on the big screen after the bad word of mouth. After I saw it on DVD I didn't regret that decision 1 bit. There's a few cool scenes here & there but overall it really doesnt do that story justice & that's 1 of my favorite greek myths.
79552, New images, might not last long...
Posted by Frank Mackey, Thu Apr-03-08 11:33 AM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36257
79553, Those look pretty cool. Is that Heath in the 1st pic as well?
Posted by jigga, Thu Apr-03-08 12:09 PM
79554, nah that looks more like one of his victims
Posted by araQual, Thu Apr-03-08 01:09 PM
he's left his calling card on the body.

V.
79555, RE: The official DARK KNIGHT discussion/SPOILERS post
Posted by kid, Thu Apr-03-08 04:03 PM
106 days left

Seems like time is going backwards!!!!
Why the hell did they have to get us so hyped for a movie that was 7 months away!!????

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79556, new tv spots over @ superherohype.com !!! SPOILERS
Posted by Deluge, Tue Jun-24-08 06:53 PM
rachel dawes definitely gets pushed off a building by the joker

awesome
79557, here are the links...
Posted by universally_speaking, Wed Jun-25-08 10:09 AM
THIS ONES DOPE!!! (spot #7) --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67-poSYpVP0&fmt=18

(spot #8)--> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktZWzBKuFc&fmt=18

(spot #9)--> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwEeLJ5UqwY&fmt=18
79558, Comcast had a buncha behind the scenes footage at my local mall
Posted by jigga, Wed Jun-25-08 12:03 PM
The IMAX scenes looked incredible. And the brief part I caught of the interogation scene with Batman & the Joker was intense as fuck. If any of yall got those Comcast displays in your local malls I'd recommend checkin it out.
79559, First official review (unfortunately it's by Rolling Stone) (lil spoilery)
Posted by Melanism, Thu Jun-26-08 12:39 PM
I swear Peter Travers writes reviews hoping to end up in the newspaper ad or in the commercial like "Rolling Stone says Heath Ledger is 'mad-crazy-blazing brilliant as the Joker'"

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/16155928/review/21477208/the_dark_knight

A little spoilery but it's stuff most of us have figured out from the trailers.
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79560, uhm???
Posted by El_Pistolero, Thu Jun-26-08 01:20 PM
<Gary Oldman is so skilled that he makes virtue exciting as Jim Gordon, the ultimate good cop and as such a prime target for the Joker.

<Eckhart earns major props for scarily and movingly portraying the DA's transformation into the dreaded Harvey Two-Face, an event sparked by the brutal murder of a major character.

Does this mean that Gordon's daughter will die?
79561, Im thinking..... *SPOILER*
Posted by KnowOne, Thu Jun-26-08 02:44 PM
><Eckhart earns major props for scarily and movingly portraying
>the DA's transformation into the dreaded Harvey Two-Face, an
>event sparked by the brutal murder of a major character.
>
>Does this mean that Gordon's daughter will die?

key word being "major" character. Im thinking Rachel. That would push Harvey & Bruce over the edge.
79562, Vermont gets to see it before YOU do thanks to our senator (SWIPE)
Posted by CliffDogg, Thu Jun-26-08 12:50 PM
First The Simpsons Movie premiere, now this???
WE TAKIN' OVAHHHHHHHHHHH © Akon/Dj Khaled

I dunno if it's worth $50 bucks though.

You still mad.


http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2008/06/24/leahy_to_host_early_showing_of_batman_movie_in_vermont_1214347514/


Leahy to host early showing of Batman movie in Vermont
By Lisa Rathke
Associated Press Writer / June 24, 2008

MONTPELIER, Vt.—Holy cameo, Batman!

U.S. Sen. Patrick Leahy's hometown will get an advance peak at the newest Batman movie, "The Dark Knight," in which he has a part.

Leahy, a lifelong fan of the caped crusader, will host a $50-a-ticket screening July 12 -- six days before the movie is released -- to benefit Montpelier's Kellogg-Hubbard Library.

"I found that children's library a very, very important part of my life when I was growing up," said Leahy, who started reading at 4 and got his first Batman comic book a year or two later.

Leahy, D-Vt., and Warner Bros. Chairman and CEO Barry Meyer will introduce the movie, which will be shown on two screens at Capitol Theatre. The 350 tickets will sell for $50.

"We think this is pretty exciting for the area," said Daniel Pudvah, executive director of the library, which plans to start selling tickets Friday. "It's nice for Vermont, and it's nice for Montpelier."

Before the screening, Leahy will host a separate $50-a-ticket benefit for 200 people featuring Meyer, to be held at the Capital Plaza Hotel, across the street from the theater.

Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, won't say much about his role in "The Dark Knight," which features Christian Bale as Batman, the late Heath Ledger as the Joker and Michael Caine as Alfred Pennyworth. But proceeds from his cameo will benefit the library.

It's not his first hand in a "Batman" production. Leahy has done voice-overs on "Batman" cartoons, written the preface for a "Batman" book and had small roles in the last two "Batman" movies.

Why, Batman?

"He doesn't have any super powers," said Leahy Tuesday. "He has to use his own wits, his prowess, but mostly his own intellect."

© Copyright 2008 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
79563, for $50 tho.
Posted by lovelyone80, Fri Jun-27-08 09:16 AM
no thanks.
79564, It's for a good cause. LIBRARIES!!!!
Posted by CliffDogg, Fri Jun-27-08 05:59 PM
79565, ^
Posted by universally_speaking, Fri Jun-27-08 06:11 PM
agreed
79566, I'm going to see it Tuesday night. *pop locks*
Posted by Ryan M, Thu Jun-26-08 01:41 PM
79567, Let the Heath-Ledger-Oscar-Nomination talk officially begin (swipe)
Posted by ZooTown74, Fri Jun-27-08 09:16 AM
From Sam Rubin's blog at ktla.com. Sam is the entertainment reporter here in Los Angeles at KTLA, and yes, he knows what he's talking about:

>Urgent from Sam -- Heath Ledger in 'The Dark Knight.'
10:27 PM June 26, 2008

I just returned from a screening and I wanted to commit this to a public forum as quickly as possible. Heath Ledger gives a blockbuster performance in the new Batman movie. His work, as The Joker, will absolutely be nominated for an Oscar, and at this point in the year, Ledger is also a hands-down favorite to win it posthumously. Ledger offers perfect pitch, perfect tone, his Joker hits all the right notes. 'The Dark Knight' is among the better super-hero movies of all time, and Ledger is THE BEST villain in a super hero movie of all time. Really. It will only add to the conversation of all that Ledger could have accomplished had he lived. Amazing work.
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HUAH
79568, It's started. I said that shit two months ago based solely on the trailer.
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Jun-27-08 03:32 PM
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=368715&mesg_id=368715&listing_type=search#368732
79569, ... which is why I put "officially" in the title
Posted by ZooTown74, Fri Jun-27-08 07:47 PM
I was aware of your post when I made mine

No dis or anything, but Rubin's a member of the media who has seen the finished movie

That's why I said it's now official, because up until now no one had seen the product...

My bad, I should have differentiated
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79570, NOPE! I STARTED IT! LONGODAMUS STRIKES AGAIN!
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jun-29-08 01:09 PM
79571, FURIOUS ---------------------->
Posted by ZooTown74, Sun Jun-29-08 01:32 PM
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all I wanna do
*gunshot**gunshot**gunshot**gunshot*
and
*cocks gun*
*KA-CHING!*
and take your money
79572, i think "Best actor" is suitable.
Posted by Doc Maestro, Sat Jun-28-08 02:33 AM
being that
heath ledger is no homicidal maniac...
the joker is...
but heath ledger did the BEST job ACTING like a homicidal maniac
79573, Watched Batman Begins on FX last night again
Posted by go mack, Fri Jun-27-08 03:34 PM
Got me fiendin' to see this even more. They did nice with very few commercial breaks and the breaks they had each included a Dark Knight preview.
79574, CHUD says "don't fall for the hype. It's good, not great."
Posted by DrNO, Fri Jun-27-08 07:07 PM
http://chud.com/articles/articles/15353/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-HOLY-HYPERBOLE-BATMAN/Page1.html

Last night was the first junket screening for The Dark Knight, taking place on an IMAX screen in Los Angeles. The screening was at 7, but the theater was packed at 6, unheard of at press screenings. The house was so full by 6:45 that the movie started fifteen minutes EARLY, something I never thought I'd see (press screenings invariable start ten minutes late). Now the people who were at the screening, while still under an official embargo, have begun talking about what they thought of the film, and the only word that comes to mind is 'hyperbole.'

You're probably wondering what I thought of the film. While my official review won't run until the week of the movie's release, I'll tell you that I liked it. It's better than Batman Begins in every way. It's an epic crime film filled with interesting characters (none of them played by Christian Bale, sadly). It's filled with action and excitement. It's also fat - at least thirty minutes could have easily been excised in the script stage, and twenty could be trimmed now in the editing room without blinking an eye - and has a number of odd story problems. Christopher Nolan still can't direct an action scene.

These aren't major complaints, but when I see someone, like my friend Steve at Collider, call the film 'flawless' and 'a masterpiece,' I know we're in for a tough couple of weeks. The movement to give Heath Ledger his posthumous Oscar, which was starting up from about the second he died in January, will pick up so much steam that I think he's almost guaranteed a nomination based on the hype and nothing else. Between now and the film's release I think the hype over this film could build to a deafening crescendo, one that will result in an inevitable backlash when the movie finally screens for the non-junket press in about two weeks. And that backlash could easily hit the fanbase as well - when The Dark Knight fails to actually change their lives, will the hardcore fans feel a touch disappointed?

For the record, Heath Ledger gives a tremendous performance as the Joker. He makes the character his own, and I think he delivers a Joker so definitive it's going to change the way he's written in the comics and will become the touchstone version of the character. I also think that if he was alive fanboys would be the only people talking about giving him an Oscar. Dying is often the best thing that you can do for your career (just ask Elvis), and Ledger picked a good role to die on, one where he really gets to have some fun and make some interesting choices. The Joker is nowhere near the character that Ennis Del Mar is, but Ledger brings a similar sort of fascinating internal quality to the role. If Ledger gets a nomination it surely wouldn't be the most egregious postmortem nod ever, but it will still be one based more on what happened outside the film than what he did inside of it.

What's important to keep in mind over the coming days as you see more and more reactions to the current round of screenings is that there is no group less reliable than the LA junket press. These people live for the ability to name drop and for their free swag, and they get more excited about seeing the film first than about seeing a good film (imagine a whole community of Harry Knowles types and you'd probably have it). It's a good movie, and many of these people want to be out the gate first saying how much they liked it.

On the other hand, a friend of mine who writes for the web and who I think is not only a terrific critic but also has tremendous taste in films has compared it to Empire Strikes Back and The Godfather Part II. I can't even begin to agree, but I respect his position on the film, and I don't think he's coming from the same fatuous place that most of the junket press does.

I'm thinking about writing my review right now and banking it, to be honest. I like to wait a while to write a review, to let a film simmer in my head for a couple of days or a week or two, but the level of hyperbole that I'm seeing begin right now is only going to get worse and worse over the next few days and may peak for me personally at the junket on Sunday. I fear that being annoyed at over-the-top praise of a good film might hurt my opinion of the film in general (I'm only human, and if I spend all day Sunday explaining to people why this film is far from flawless, I know my mind will begin fixating on these problems in the story). I'm sort of keenly aware of my reputation as the anti-Batman guy (and I honestly don't like the character all that much), and I walked into this movie with an open mind, intending to give it a fair shake. I want to make sure my review reflects that fair shake and not the growing Browncoat aspects of the people who came into that IMAX theater in wheelchairs last night and left on their own two feet.
79575, he sounds like he is trying a little too hard to be reasonable.
Posted by Cold Truth, Fri Jun-27-08 11:26 PM
that is, he is trying to maintain a grounded, balanced perspective- except it seems like it is much more a reaction to the accolades that are already piling on rather then his true thoughts.

i get the feeling that were the overall reaction a ho hum, "good but not great" attitude... he would tout how great it was and ow everyone else is missing the finer points.

there was a serious buzz about ledgers performance before he died. people were already saying it was a potential oscar performance. not en masse like it is now, but then, there was less to go on at the time.

at any rate chances are most of us are gonna mark the fuck out over this shit. most of us are gonna love it. it's probably gonna kick Ironmans ass.

my guess is the hyperbole is at least 75% warranted. a few minor faults won't be enough to turn it into a "good movie".

i am betting it's gonna be an "experience" level movie.
79576, I have a feeling that I will be cosigning this
Posted by Gemini_Two_One, Sat Jun-28-08 09:06 AM



>
>These aren't major complaints, but when I see someone, like my
>friend Steve at Collider, call the film 'flawless' and 'a
>masterpiece,' I know we're in for a tough couple of weeks. The
>movement to give Heath Ledger his posthumous Oscar, which was
>starting up from about the second he died in January, will
>pick up so much steam that I think he's almost guaranteed a
>nomination based on the hype and nothing else. Between now and
>the film's release I think the hype over this film could build
>to a deafening crescendo, one that will result in an
>inevitable backlash when the movie finally screens for the
>non-junket press in about two weeks. And that backlash could
>easily hit the fanbase as well - when The Dark Knight fails to
>actually change their lives, will the hardcore fans feel a
>touch disappointed?
>
>For the record, Heath Ledger gives a tremendous performance as
>the Joker. He makes the character his own, and I think he
>delivers a Joker so definitive it's going to change the way
>he's written in the comics and will become the touchstone
>version of the character. I also think that if he was alive
>fanboys would be the only people talking about giving him an
>Oscar. Dying is often the best thing that you can do for your
>career (just ask Elvis), and Ledger picked a good role to die
>on, one where he really gets to have some fun and make some
>interesting choices. The Joker is nowhere near the character
>that Ennis Del Mar is, but Ledger brings a similar sort of
>fascinating internal quality to the role. If Ledger gets a
>nomination it surely wouldn't be the most egregious postmortem
>nod ever, but it will still be one based more on what happened
>outside the film than what he did inside of it.
>




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79577, What a surprise, it's Devin Faraci. Fuck that guy.
Posted by ZooTown74, Sat Jun-28-08 10:50 AM
I hope it's the greatest superhero movie of all time, just to shut his cynical-- er, I mean, "rational"-assed face...

Also, he can FOH with his arrogance... (WARNING: strawman alert) "I just might write my review now, because I need to save the 'fanboys*' from the tide of fat critics overpraising this film..." (and besides, he's too late, Rubin's a fat critic, and he has already weighed in)

I'm not trying to be Mr. Batman here, but as usual, Devin's full of shit by trying too hard to be... whatever he's trying to be (and "objective" isn't the first word that comes to mind)



*and can the people in the press put a long-needed moratorium on this fuckin' word? Please?
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79578, I think he's a fat jerk too
Posted by DrNO, Thu Jul-03-08 04:23 PM
But I agree with him that Nolan can't direct action very well and that Begins had a lot of problems outside of the great performances.

I also agree that if Ledger hadn't died nobody would be talking about awards. Alfred Molina was fucking awesome in Spider-Man 2 but awards were never brought up.
79579, better than batman begins in every way?
Posted by eldealo, Sun Jun-29-08 10:31 AM
yet, he still seems to be fighting hard to convince folks, and perhaps himself, that its not all that. batman begins was NOT flawless, but it was very well done. what the fuck did he think of that movie?
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79580, He likely thought it wasn't the best comic book movie ever.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jun-29-08 01:14 PM
Thus, all the hype about this being destined to be the best comic book movie ever might have rubbed dude the wrong way.
79581, true. he did admit that he doesn't like the character of batman. the hype...
Posted by eldealo, Mon Jun-30-08 05:41 AM
just makes you wonder if he can even be objective about it since it seems to bother him so.

anyway, as long as it is better than batman begins, i will be one satisfied customer, because i really dug that overall.
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79582, diagnosis: hater.
Posted by Doc Maestro, Thu Jul-03-08 03:36 PM
79583, CHUD is full of shit; the movie IS great.
Posted by Raised under Reagan, Thu Jul-17-08 02:20 AM
79584, JUST BOUGHT MY TICKETS!!!! im pretty excited.
Posted by Mic_Specialist, Sat Jun-28-08 05:38 PM
79585, Possible Villians for the next film...
Posted by da_illest_one, Sun Jun-29-08 09:33 AM
Black Mask, seems the most probable since he becomes the crimelord of Gotham for a short duration in the comics...

Killer Croc, maybe???..never might happen but would be dope...

Catwoman and Penguin???... I'm guessing Charlise Theron/Ali Larter/ Rose McGowan/Sienna Miller/Elisa Cuthbert/Jamie King for Selena Kyle and Phillip Seymour Hoffman/ Seth Rogen as Penguin...

Poison Ivy, seems probable if their doing a Two-Face tie in movie, probably some unknown for this role...
79586, two face and probably catwoman depending on warner bros
Posted by Luge Skywalker, Sun Jun-29-08 12:54 PM
nolan said he doesnt want to use penguin
79587, hopefully they'll get Halle Berry... lawl
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79588, RE: hopefully they'll get Halle Berry... lawl
Posted by Nieman5, Sun Jun-29-08 09:52 PM
Cat women has the potential to be terrible.

Riddler seems like a good choice.
79589, so long as robins bitch ass doesnt show up im good.
Posted by Cold Truth, Sun Jun-29-08 10:00 PM
bane would be dope so long as they steer FAR away from his BM<AR incarnation.
79590, Michael Emerson
Posted by xbenzive, Mon Jun-30-08 12:32 PM

I said it before, and I'll say it again, Michael Emerson as the Riddler.

I mean, watching Lost and how he puzzles me with his eyes, I would love to see him being the Riddler. Imagine him wearing the suit, not the Riddler of the Adam West Batman or Carey's Riddler, I want the Riddler to daunt the Batman: The Animated Series Suit but not too green.

:)

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79591, Gemma Arterton (with red hair)
Posted by xbenzive, Mon Jun-30-08 12:54 PM

as Poison Ivy.

:)

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79592, Spoiler free IGN review
Posted by jigga, Mon Jun-30-08 11:40 AM
http://movies.ign.com/articles/884/884876p1.html

The Dark Knight Review

Nolan's sequel surpasses the original with an intense, disturbing masterpiece.

by Todd Gilchrist

June 30, 2008 - It isn't an overstatement to call The Dark Knight the most sophisticated and ambitious work of its kind. Superior to all three Spider-Man installments and even its amazing predecessor in terms of conceptualization, writing, acting, and direction, Nolan's follow-up to Batman Begins is a dark, complex and disturbing film, not the least of which because it grafts its heroics onto the blueprint of actual reality rather than that of spandex-clad supermen. And while such a distinction may make little difference to those already eagerly anticipating the return of the caped crusader, suffice it to say that The Dark Knight qualifies as the first official comic book adaptation that truly succeeds in being a great artistic achievement in its own right.

Christian Bale returns as Bruce Wayne, the billionaire playboy who moonlights as Batman. Having eased more comfortably into a lifestyle of excess, Wayne lurks on the fringes of his family's corporation as CEO Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman) runs the boardroom. But when an ambitious district attorney named Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart) comes forward to challenge Gotham City's villainy through proper legal channels, the man also known as Batman sees an opportunity to replace his vigilante persona with a figure of virtue who will truly inspire the best in the citizenry.

Unfortunately, Batman's success as a crime fighter has generated new problems for Gotham, including a consolidation of the crime lords who once controlled the city independently. Meanwhile, a new adversary named The Joker (Heath Ledger) proves particularly dangerous because he seeks not only to advance the cause of Gotham's underworld, but obliterate the foundations of liberty and order that Batman protects. Torn between championing Dent and meting out justice as a masked vigilante, Wayne soon finds himself at a crossroads between being the hero that Gotham needs and the one it deserves.

The great triumph of The Dark Knight is that it manages for the first time ever in the history of the genre to transplant comic book theatrics into the real world – and moreover, to examine precisely what it could mean if a person decided to strap on a super-suit and start attacking the world's criminals. The first film certainly hinted at this possibility, thrusting the hero and his alter-ego into a world where Wayne's frivolity was as despised as Batman's vigilantism. But even with real-world explanations for such improbabilities as Scarecrow's ability to scare, this was still a world where the Batmobile was cool and the climactic battle took place on a speeding train as a bomb ticked toward its inevitable explosion. Here, the Prowler barely survives its first appearance and with the exception of one or two cooler-than-cool moves that will no doubt thrill fans, its replacement/substitute – the Batpod – serves as a largely utilitarian device for Batman to get from one crime scene to the next. (That said, I still want one.)

More important than this, however, is the idea that Batman is not just a guy in a suit, but a symbol and there are people in the film – most notably The Joker – who want to destroy that symbol. While Batman's identity remains secret and his motives unknown to Gothamites, he represents hope in a city that has little to spare and embodies a pursuit of justice – and further, a code of behavior – that quite literally threatens these criminals' way of life. By throwing Gotham into chaos and testing the limits to which Batman holds himself, The Joker is not merely plying death and destruction but willfully destroying the philosophical foundations of organized society. The closest such examination another comic book-oriented film has ever attempted was the emotional throughline of the Spider-Man films. Peter Parker's struggle was almost exclusively personal, whereas Wayne not only has to find a way to maintain his moral compass, but consider what the repercussions of his heroism are to both the public and the criminals themselves.

While all of this sounds lofty – and it is – Nolan examines these themes in beautifully human terms, projecting his examination of "the hero" into the hearts and minds of his characters. Wayne, less outwardly conflicted than in Batman Begins, sees Dent's ascension as an opportunity to stop playing dress up and reunite with Rachel Dawes (Maggie Gyllenhaal) – the one woman who knows his secret. Meanwhile, Dent and his sometimes partner Jim Gordon (Gary Oldman) look at Batman's existence as a good thing, a fulcrum against which they can enforce the law and sometimes bend rules to accomplish loftier goals. And, of course, The Joker wants to destroy all of that, albeit less because of some law of movie villainy than because he sees his existence as the necessary antithesis – or perhaps ultimate extension – of the murky morality of Batman's brand of justice. When, after all, was the last time a movie criminal wasn't merely mad, but had a deeper ideological motivation for his dastardly deeds?

Perhaps bolstered by the success of the first film, Nolan reaches out further with his storytelling and camerawork in The Dark Knight to create an ongoing, palpable feeling of tension that never relents through the entirety of the film's two and a half hour running time. There is a hugeness to the narrative itself, which Nolan enhances first by shooting partially on IMAX film stock (which will surely be lost to those unlucky enough to be too far to see the film in the format), but he then builds this haunting atmosphere steadily from one scene to the next, building anticipation for the moments when the violence will finally erupt.

That he occasionally veers into comic book glibness with one-liners undermines none of the intensity; on the contrary, these moments provide a release that is absolutely necessary to keeping the audience from succumbing to The Joker's febrile madness. Meanwhile, the violence is quite possibly the most intense I have ever seen in a PG-13 film, leaving myself and others wondering how The Dark Knight avoided an R. But what is more disturbing is the unrelenting menace that hovers over every scene like a dark cloud. Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard's leitmotif for The Joker sounds like a cross between Ligeti's "Lux Aeterna" (from 2001) and the scraping, metallic curlicue that was used in trailers for The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, and enhances the clenched-fist feeling that anything can and will happen at any moment, even scenes in which he doesn't appear.

Like few other mythology-based movies, The Dark Knight truly seems to think of everything, be it conceptual or purely logical. Credit Nolan and his brother Jonathan (who also helped conceive The Prestige) for really digging into Batman's world, turning over the soil and examining its roots for possible deficiencies. While this generally speaks to the film's plausibility, they also have the presence of mind to consider such things as Lucius Fox's considerable monetary expenditures – not to mention his entire division – and how and where a paper trail might eventually lead to it. Again, however, these are not ideas or even subplots to which vast amounts of screen time are devoted, but simply revealed, explained and dealt with as they might arise in real life.

Bale is predictably effective as both Wayne and Batman this time around, playing both with greater assurance than in Batman Begins (indeed, he and his characters seem to possess more confidence). Though Wayne is a necessary second-fiddle to Batman, he is a better defined and more poised character in this film – even when he's indulging the excesses of his trust fund – and he understands the value of being in a position to help someone like Dent, be it monetarily as himself or physically as Batman. Also great is the rest of the original cast, all of whom seem as comfortable in their characters as if they'd created them themselves. Oldman in particular creates a portrait of virtue that shows a roiling well of doubt underneath, and yet always conveys effortless authority.

Meanwhile taking over for Katie Holmes, Gyllenhaal adds real depth and energy to Rachel Dawes, showing how her feelings for Bruce Wayne aren't simply unrequited, but actually based in both sincere affection and common sense. And Eckhart more or less combines all of the disparate roles he's played in the past – lout, huckster, loyal companion – into one seamless portrayal of a man determined to make things better but not quite sure how to accomplish that goal in the right way.

Finally, there's Ledger, whose performance I suspect will be the subject of many analyses of all sorts in the weeks and months to come. What he does with The Joker is, quite frankly, nothing short of transcendent. Early in the film he explains the origins of his trademark facial scars, and you worry for a moment that the filmmakers are giving this psychopath some kind of convenient explanation, which, talented though he was, Ledger won't be able to overcome. But by the third time he's explained where they come from – each time telling a different tale – you realize that Ledger was a master of his craft, only in his final years finding roles that truly offered him the chance to explore that mastery. His is the definitive movie Joker, and he owns the role and achieves a level of abject insanity that is terrifying as it is irresistible.

Overall, the film does maintain a steady pace and function with such continuously unnerving momentum that it occasionally seems like a second installment. (There are plenty of appropriate comparisons to other sequels its quality mirrors, if not possibly surpasses: Toy Story 2, The Empire Strikes Back, The Godfather Part II, etc.) In fact, so well-executed is this film that even the title – or at least its true meaning – seemed to catch its audience off guard, until it gets explained, expertly and poetically, at the very end of the movie.

A screenwriting professor of mine once said that what happens in a story must be surprising but expected, and Nolan's approach to The Dark Knight epitomizes this maxim. He gives you exactly what you want, but does it so well that it manages to completely catch you off guard when it happens. But there really is no better way to describe The Dark Knight than to call it a great work of art because it transcends both the boundaries of comic book moviemaking and even the parameters of good filmmaking. What Nolan and Co. have created doesn't just function as a thrill ride or even a terrific movie, but rather as a substantive and philosophical examination of why we need heroes, and then when we need them, what they mean.


Rating Info 5 out of 5 Stars | 10/10
79593, Comic Book Resources Review
Posted by Melanism, Mon Jun-30-08 12:17 PM
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17013

The Dark Knight: The CBR Review
by Erik Amaya, Contributing Writer

Sun, June 29th, 2008 at 8:06AM PST
Updated: Sun, June 29th, 2008 at 7:31PM PST

All the things you never thought you would see in a Batman film are present in "The Dark Knight." Christopher Nolan's dark, disturbing sequel to 2006's "Batman Begins" pulls off an impossible task: making an epic from a movie with a man in tights. The film also reveals to a mass audience what fans of the characters have known for years - the Joker is nothing to laugh at.

Heath Ledger's final role brings to the screen the Joker that lurked in all comics readers nightmares. In "The Dark Knight," we are given a Joker that is truly dangerous. Just how does Ledger pull it off? Is it that voice? We've never heard him or Joker talk in such a manic, unhinged, and truthful way. Is it that gait? True to the brutal force of nature he is portraying, Ledger even defies the basic form of walking. Is it that his pretty face from teen movies has completely vanished without the aid of expensive prosthetics? Sure, he has scars applied, but most of that face is his, contorted into a primal visage of pure madness. In this portrayal, we are not given the Clown Prince of Crime, or a slick mobster. Instead, we see the raw, arbitrary force of disorder.

Attempting to pull Gotham back from that disorder are our three principle protagonists (there is a reason not to refer to them as "heroes."). In Christian Bale's Batman, we do not see warring identities; at long last, the rumination on dualism is put behind us. Instead, Bale's Batman considers his role and the consequences of his existence. This is made clear when he first meets Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart). In the new District Attorney he sees a man who can operate in the light of day and go where Batman cannot. Eckhart's Dent is a tragic soul - we all know his fate, but the film, and his performance, makes us wish Dent would not meet his destiny.

Gary Oldman's James Gordon has, perhaps, the most surprising journey in the film. The only ordinary man in the whole lot, he is pulled into the trajectory of epic forces and must deal with them as only one good cop could. For his efforts, he becomes Commissioner. He also sees his city turned upside down and the true danger that lurks within it.

Morgan Freeman continues to delight as Lucius Fox, re-imagined in this series as Batman's "Q." The back and forth continues between Fox and Batman. The interplay between the two actors is dynamic and a small ray of light in the otherwise dark and twisted story. Fox's unstated acceptance of his employer's choice to be Batman, however, is brought into play for this film as the technology Fox designed becomes perverted by the Dark Knight into a dreadful tool.

The only character seemingly untouched by the darkness is Rachel Dawes, a character brought to life almost effortlessly by Maggie Gyllenhaal. In some ways, the Dawes character is the most thankless role; the forced-in love interest. In this film, however, her character is given something to chew on and Gyllenhaal makes you care enough about the character that her relevance to the film pays off.

Christopher Nolan never meant to be a director of titanic tent-pole films, but he delivers them with grace, confidence, and power. The fights are true to Batman and the chase scenes are electric. If "The Dark Knight" were simply an action film, it would be one of the best. However, what makes the film truly amazing is how it grows beyond its basic remit as a summer action film. The story, guided by the Joker's antics, reveals a dark rumination on the Western World in the twenty-first century. It suggests the line between upstanding citizen and a homicidal clown is not very well defined. The film has a sense of relevance in a way no other superhero movie can claim to suggest. This is a truly amazing feat for any film, never mind one which features an actual building exploding.

That explosion, like most of the stunts and effects in the film, is genuine - it actually occurred for a camera and wasn't created in a computer. Eschewing the trend toward more outlandish uses of green-screen and CGI, Nolan achieved most of his film in camera. A shot of Batman jumping off a Hong Kong high rise is real. That shot of a big rig truck flipping over really happened. The only computer effects to be seen in the film are used to aid in the realization of Two-Face. Even then, the technology is used in such a subtle way, it gives Harvey's fractured soul a reality it has never seen on screen before. These choices gives the film an authenticity few action films can offer these days. It is that verisimilitude that makes so much of the film so terrifying.

Make no mistake; "The Dark Knight" is frightening. Tension ramps up. Blood is spilled. Every body that drops has weight. Every shout is as unsettling as an explosion. As soon as the Joker begins his stage show of terror, you will expect every window and every quiet moment to explode into anarchy. This is not the Superfriends. Scooby and Daphne are no where to be found. Even if they were, they would be strung up on the pillars of Gotham City Hall, broken and still bleeding with a note posted to Scoob's intestines saying, "Good one, Shaggy." The vision of humanity the Joker presents will haunt you.

One of the most surprising aspects of the "The Dark Knight" is its third act. Instead of an orgy of models, stunt work, special effects and a doomsday machine, we are presented with multiple hostage situations that are surprising in their emotional tension and weight. Here, there are no trains, no archrivals in stolen battle armor, or a magic clingfilm "S." Instead, the choices characters are presented with are more gripping and satisfying than a fight that overstays its welcome. Oh, but don't worry, there's still plenty of fighting in the films final half-hour.

"The Dark Knight" continues the ethos established in "Batman Begins." By sticking to a "real interpretation" of the material and characters, mainstream audiences see the true spirit comics fans have always known them to contain. Gone are the days of day-glo villainy. Bat-credit cards and ice skates are a dim memory or fever dream. Instead, the serious undertones of those garish and outlandish four-color ideas are laid bare in their darkest, terrifying forms.
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79594, Just got back...I'll keep this review spoiler free.
Posted by Ryan M, Wed Jul-02-08 01:58 AM
First off...I got to see this tonight on an IMAX screen for free. I heart the Producers Guild of America.

Next up - this movie is fantastic. It's basically everything you guys are hoping for, and possibly more. To shoot down any concerns - the 2 villain angle is handled far, far better than any film that's tried it prior. In fact (and this could be considered a spoiler but it shouldn't surprise anyone who knows anything about Batman) - Nolan did a Q & A after the screening and likened the Joker to Jaws; a driving force for the rest of the characters rather than a character with an arc of his own. I couldn't have put it any better.

Heath Ledger doesn't just give a great performance - he truly does steal every scene he's in; so much so that when you see him on screen, you start looking forward to the minutes that lie ahead. Gary Oldman is definitely great in this one as well. Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman do their things and really add quite a bit to Bruce Wayne, as they did in Batman Begins. All in all, the acting is there - even from Maggie Gyllenhall (sorry, I am not a fan).

The action sequences are amazing, and the flick has these serious peaks to it. You aren't quite sure when things are going to wrap up, either. It's 2.5 hours long, and it does feel like it, but it still moves by incredibly quickly with ABSOLUTELY no added fat that could have been trimmed. Every scene is essential. Films that don't do that drive me up the goddamn wall, so that was a huge plus. I definitely recommend seeing this on an IMAX. The city shots are breathtaking.

All in all - this is going to be a tremendous hit, but above everything else, it really is going to please most everyone who sees it. I loved it, and it seemed everyone else in the theater did as well. I'm not going to say it's a masterpiece or anything, but it's a GREAT piece of work.
79595, Was it obvious which scenes were shot with the IMAX cameras?
Posted by jigga, Wed Jul-02-08 11:28 AM

79596, Well, I didn't know parts were shot in IMAX format.
Posted by Ryan M, Thu Jul-03-08 01:53 AM
But I did notice an aspect ratio change...though I thought I was tripping. So I guess the answer is yes if you see it on an IMAX. I'm reasonably sure the opening scene is IMAX.
79597, RE: Well, I didn't know parts were shot in IMAX format.
Posted by jigga, Thu Jul-03-08 12:27 PM
>But I did notice an aspect ratio change...though I thought I
>was tripping. So I guess the answer is yes if you see it on an
>IMAX. I'm reasonably sure the opening scene is IMAX.

Yeah that one is & I think they shot four others. Good to know about the aspect ratio change tho. Thanks.
79598, thanks for the review
Posted by xangeluvr, Wed Jul-02-08 03:04 PM
i can't wait to see this, but i'm not sure if i'll be able to make it to the imax or not. i hope so, but i know it gonna be packed for a few weeks.
79599, Thanks for this, and yes, I am on the mad that I couldn't catch this
Posted by ZooTown74, Wed Jul-02-08 08:58 PM
screening...
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all I wanna do
*gunshot**gunshot**gunshot**gunshot*
and
*cocks gun*
*KA-CHING!*
and take your money
79600, First 5 mins (IMAX preview, better quality)
Posted by carlos, Wed Jul-02-08 08:22 PM
I dunno about you all, but I saw the IMAX preview that was posted last yr, and the quality wasnt that good. Well, someone showed be a better one.

*Nothing new if you've seen last yrs footage before I Am Legend...

http://www.iklipz.com/MovieDetail.aspx?MovieID=650c07ac-6d27-4b3d-986d-732c5a770a45
79601, Dead Link. Here's a new one:
Posted by jigga, Thu Jul-03-08 04:06 PM
http://www.atomicpopcorn.net/2008/07/02/the-first-5-minutes-of-the-dark-knight/
79602, Since no one else will admit it: The previews look CORNY as fuck.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri Jul-04-08 06:00 AM

They really, really, do.

Okay, Batman is hated by the city.

*yawn*

Joker? Looks underwhelming to me.


79603, *shrugs* not to me. looks the complete opposite, actually.
Posted by araQual, Fri Jul-04-08 01:07 PM
V.
79604, actually, they don't, not at all, not even a little
Posted by Cold Truth, Fri Jul-04-08 03:59 PM
to each his own and all

nobody else will "admit it" because the trailers are a big reason why everyone is amped
79605, Enjoy Hancock.
Posted by Ryan M, Fri Jul-04-08 04:28 PM
79606, and "The Family That Preys Together"...
Posted by ternary_star, Mon Jul-14-08 12:40 PM
this nigga has the taste of an 80-year-old nursing home patient whose speaks English as a second language.

79607, jesus christ, man...you have the worst fucking taste
Posted by ternary_star, Mon Jul-14-08 12:35 PM
79608, wizard world/batman begins TDK preview (spoilers)
Posted by Luge Skywalker, Fri Jul-04-08 06:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blXLtd3mB5c
79609, The Joker crashes the party!!!
Posted by xbenzive, Mon Jul-07-08 08:02 PM
enjoy.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1w3-XDXKPMc&feature=related


:)

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79610, lol @ sen. leahey.....
Posted by gluvnast, Mon Jul-07-08 08:35 PM
79611, his reaction @ 0:45 secs = priceless
Posted by carlos, Mon Jul-07-08 09:21 PM
79612, his reaction and facial expressions...
Posted by xbenzive, Tue Jul-08-08 12:45 AM


in the scene seems too real, from what had fell in the background when he looked back to just him "acting" like The Joker. I can't wait to see this next Wednesday!!

:)

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79613, HA HA HA!!! (posters)
Posted by xbenzive, Mon Jul-07-08 08:06 PM
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/6852/tdk018av7vg2.jpg

Posters are DOPE!

http://www.traileraddict.com/poster/the-dark-knight/10

:)

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79614, Harvey Two-Face...
Posted by Monkey Genius, Tue Jul-08-08 03:18 PM
Pics: http://www.filmdrunk.com/post.phtml?pk=2113
79615, seems fake.
Posted by xbenzive, Tue Jul-08-08 03:50 PM
like photoshoped.

It feels like another movie.


:)

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79616, Nope.
Posted by Monkey Genius, Tue Jul-08-08 04:09 PM
Here's more: http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b45/joma1124/Dark%20Knight%20movie%20camera%20picutres/
79617, holy shit @ most of those pics
Posted by carlos, Tue Jul-08-08 05:18 PM
... kinda wish i hadn't clicked.
79618, DAMN!
Posted by xbenzive, Tue Jul-08-08 07:17 PM
I'm kinda not feeling the look of Two-Face. It seems too much.

:)

we pray for dollars and we work for change © Slug of Atmosphere
79619, from some of the reviews i've read...
Posted by carlos, Tue Jul-08-08 07:43 PM
they said that it looks much better in film than it does on those stills.
79620, Kind of like cats swore the CGI Incredible Hulk looked better
Posted by Midtown Records, Wed Jul-09-08 12:13 AM
in the film than it did on the stills that were posted, lol. At the end of the day they didn't look any better. I liked the movie so much that by the end I was totally cool with it. Hopefully that will happen with The Dark Knight too.
79621, Quick reminder: it runs 2:32
Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Jul-08-08 07:42 PM
But Ryan M said it breezes by, so there shouldn't be any complaints

I'ma savor every minute
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Scooby-DOO
79622, You know they're gonna complain Zoo.
Posted by Ryan M, Tue Jul-08-08 08:58 PM
I also expect people will think the movie is over after a certain scene too...but that's a whole other topic altogether.
79623, If it runs that long I am no longer mad that they
Posted by Midtown Records, Wed Jul-09-08 12:10 AM
released as much footage as they have. There should be plenty we haven't seen.
79624, It does, and there is.
Posted by Ryan M, Wed Jul-09-08 12:59 PM
79625, will this movie get here already
Posted by Tony Sparks, Wed Jul-09-08 10:23 PM
sigh
79626, seriously, next week man!
Posted by Mic_Specialist, Thu Jul-10-08 01:30 AM
these tickets are burning a fucking hole in my pocket!
79627, Gotham Tonight - viral news updates
Posted by eldealo, Mon Jul-14-08 12:27 PM
I hadn't seen these before? Have any of you seen these? They are pretty interesting. There are no real spoilers here. No footage given away or anything like that. Just a cool tie-in to The Dark Knight.

http://gothamcablenews.com/gotham_tonight_0616.aspx

http://gothamcablenews.com/gotham_tonight_0623.aspx

http://gothamcablenews.com/gotham_tonight_0627_2.aspx

http://gothamcablenews.com/gotham_tonight_0627.aspx

http://gothamcablenews.com/gotham_tonight_0703.aspx

http://gothamcablenews.com/gotham_tonight.aspx
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79628, Comcast On Demand.
Posted by xbenzive, Mon Jul-14-08 12:56 PM
but there's one flaw. The latest one had clown suspects rob a bank, which ties in with the prologue to The Dark Knight, the flaw is that the show stated it was breaking news, but the robbery happen in the day which the show took place at night being a nightly news. Other than that, I think the minor spoiler would be knowing what the movie is about. After watching each episode I have an idea what becomes Two-Face, and that he's going to be murderous vigilante.

I think Aaron Eckhart will be great being Two-Face. I don't know about the whole "Two-Face" CGI feeling, but I think he should get as much props playing Harvey Dent.


:)

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79629, (minor spoiler)
Posted by eldealo, Mon Jul-14-08 04:01 PM
i read a while back is that nolan had eckhart perform his lines as two-face in two phases. all of his harvey dent lines and then his evil side after. in other words, each personality will bring a different performance. this is what really interests me. more so than the cgi.
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79630, cool.
Posted by xbenzive, Mon Jul-14-08 05:24 PM

I mean I can see him play the characters very well...but it's just the CGI Two-Face, that's it. Otherwise, I think he's great in both roles. At time I think Ledger's Joker is getting so much shine in this film that we tend to forget the minor roles, especially Harvey Dent/Two-Face character. I think the film will be one glorious film, not just a Comic-book movie.

:)

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79631, tommy lee jones looked like such a joke though, i'll take my chances w/
Posted by eldealo, Tue Jul-15-08 05:43 AM
cgi. i really need to rid myself of that memory.
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79632, Got my IMAX midnight showing ticket....only 3 more days!!!!
Posted by LA2Philly, Mon Jul-14-08 06:11 PM
I can't believe it's almost here....
79633, : (
Posted by xbenzive, Mon Jul-14-08 07:29 PM

August 29th. Damn Sacramento, why they always have late IMAX showings.

:)

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79634, i'm seein it at imax tmrw afternoon at 3pm.
Posted by araQual, Mon Jul-14-08 11:54 PM
the very first screening of it in the fucking country lol.
blazin up before i go in. s'gonna be awesome.

V.
79635, when the hype is huge AND deserved it's the most exciting thing
Posted by Tiger Woods, Tue Jul-15-08 04:11 PM

like bammas were really hype about this year's super bowl
before that maybe graduation,
fools were crazy hype before sin city
get rich or die tryin
I remember everyone was going bonkers before the eminem show dropped

it's the best feeling, it really is. when seemingly everyone you know is talking about the same thing and is just as pumped, and then the day FINALLY arrives and it's like fireworks going off in your head, like busting after not pulling it for a year. and Dark Knight is one of those moments, maybe the biggest one yet in my memory if I can recall. Like the wait has felt EPIC and it's actually arrived, it's here, and everyone I talk to, even casual movie fans and people who haven't ever even read comics are planning their weekend around seeing this. as bad as I want to see it right now, I know that I'm gonna be on my best 2nd grader impression when the movie officially begins after the trailers and the lights go down for good and everyone starts cheering.

midnight thursday can't come soon enough
79636, someone drop the ANCHOR
Posted by Jru, Wed Jul-16-08 11:14 PM
79637, just got back.
Posted by xbenzive, Thu Jul-17-08 12:27 AM

I believe the flaw of the movie, and probably most of everyone else would be...the running time. I think Nolan can at least chop off 30-45 minutes of it. So much was going on, it went overboard. But then again, THIS IS ONE BADASS FUCKING MOVIE.

I think it's alot better than Begins when it comes to action, but sometime it just felt like the editing was sloppy in some minor parts. Overall, it was great experience. Thank you Mr. Ledger for one of the best Jokers.


:)

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79638, lived up to and SURPASSED the hype
Posted by araQual, Thu Jul-17-08 01:24 AM
Heath ripped it. the greatest performance of his career which also unfortunately claimed his life. Eckhart's turn as Two-Face was also very cool, and i couldn't even tell there was CGI goin on, it looked pretty seamless. glad they went for the gory-as-hell face.

one thing i loved above all is that they did not hold back with the violence, or with Joker's sadistic nature.


(spoiler)



when Bats is on the batpod and headin straight for Joker on the street with the machine gun, Joker starts off by spraying innocent civilians driving in their cars before he even takes a shot at Bats. i LOVED that. the only way to do Joker justice is to let that muthafucker off the leash.

V.
79639, I poured some liquor for Heath. He was that good in this.
Posted by Raised under Reagan, Thu Jul-17-08 02:25 AM
79640, Just saw it... EPIC. Heath will be missed
Posted by Raised under Reagan, Thu Jul-17-08 02:16 AM

The movie is very impressive.