>samething, alfred went along with it, which is why he was the
>1st ones that understood the joker as being more than a common
>criminal

no it's not the same thing. if alfred had told bruce that he had to burn down gotham to catch the joker, then it would be the same thing.



>>that part had nothing to do with neoconservatism.
>>
>
>that's whut neoconservatism is all about! they believe that
>american idealism should be the driving force. it's the reason
>why patriotism is an exploited ideal right down to wearing
>flag pin...it's why FOX NEWS tell their version of "the
>truth"...

uh, same could be said for communism (Stalinist version). does that mean that it's a comment on Stalinist Russia?


>chris nolan wasn't trying to promote OR criticize the actions
>made within this movie...he's just showing that there are
>certain decisions that aren't going to be easy or
>fair....neoconservatism is one of them...

yes he was showing that certain decisions aren't easy or fair. he was also directly criticizing how far the neocons have gone with some of those decisions.


i dunno how this
>movie is criticizing neoconservatism when people like batman
>and gordon making conscious decision to do things that maybe
>unethical, but serve to protect the people...

I already explained how.