AUTOBOTS
• Optimus Prime: http://www.michaelbay.com/images/tf/png/optimus.png
• Bumblebee: http://www.michaelbay.com/images/tf/png/bumblebee.png
• Ironhide: http://www.michaelbay.com/images/tf/png/ironhide.png
• Jazz: http://www.michaelbay.com/images/tf/png/jazz.png

DECEPTICONS
• Megatron: http://www.michaelbay.com/images/tf/png/megatron.png
• Starscream: http://www.michaelbay.com/images/tf/png/starscream.png
• Blackout (fake Soundwave): http://www.michaelbay.com/images/tf/png/blackout.png
• Frenzy: http://www.michaelbay.com/images/tf/png/frenzy.png

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MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST.

That shit's repulsive. I don't see how anyone who lived through the '80s green lit this bullshit.

This shit is disgusting.

It's a hot alternator figure, but not first gen.

Mech

:(

disgraceful

I am 25, about to turn 26 and they are already starting to destroy my childhood. It's like they say "if it ain't broke don't fix it" so why does Bay insist on destroying it? Why couldn't they just use the original ICONIC transformer designs? This movie will be the biggest bomb/bust/flop/whatever other adjective you want to use of this summer. They will get a big backlash from the original fanbase and the younger generation won't find this movie appealing, no matter how much they Hollywoodize it up and make it flashy with some stupid love story. Especially after all the negative rewies start coming out.

The odds of me going to see this keep sinking.

tell me these are conceptual drawings.

they look like retarded gundams had sex with mutant go-bots.


i'll prolly still watch it.

TRANSFORMERS LOST.

It blows my mind.

to source material
they like using the name but
damn-it if they don't go out of their way
to shit all over the final product.

I'm sure it'll make 100 million whether the 10 of us go or not.

Far as I'm concerned, it'll prolly run circles around Spiderman 3.

If he'd stayed 100% accurate, it's corny and overly purist and lame.

If he changes it, Transformers loyalists-- his core audience-- get pissy.

Bay can't win. But he's not trying to sell JUST Transformers fans. He wants to sell everyone. And I, being unfamiliar with the original Transformers, think that those things look pretty fucking cool.

I thought I was looking at the wrong pictures because of everyones reactions.

>And I, being unfamiliar with
>the original Transformers, think that those things look pretty
>fucking cool.

I was actually surprised at how good they looked. The detail is fantastic. This actually made me want to go see the movie. *shrugs*

How about 50-50?. Changing Megatrons look I think folks can deal with, but some of those designs are wack. Starscream for one looks wack. How about Jazz? Why the only Optimus and Bumble have any color. No other alien robot know what color is?? Adding a little color would go a long way to bring out those designs. I personally am disappointed and don't see myself making much of an effort to see this in the theater.

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I willing to accept the fact that, at it's core, Transformers is basically little more than a toy franchise that was marketed to 8 YEAR OLD BOYS in the 80's. There's not much there in terms of story to work with. In order to appeal to a broader audience, changes have to be made from the original concept to keep it from being corny and juvenile.

I'm also willing to acknowledge that they need to make these robots from space look believable in terms of movement and detail (i.e. Prime's tires not magically disappearing when he changes to robot form, elbows and arms being able to move fluidly, etc.), and in THAT regard, at least, I think they succeeded.

But really, is it THAT much to ask that the characters at least bear SOME iconic resemblence to their namesakes? Obviously this is more important with some characters than others. I couldn't imagine them trying to pull off Frenzy as a cassette nowadays, for example.

But Megatron without the arm cannon? That's like Superman without the 'S' or Punisher without the skull!

Why bother?

That said, I'm still prolly gonna see that shit. Doesn't mean I'm gonna like it....

*Camps out in front of theatre with pouty face and arms crossed*


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This is like 3% accurate.

And it's not like the old designs hadn't been updated using realistic vehicles and such, yet retaining the original design aesthetic.

It's like they scrapped everything that worked from TF canon and just kept the factions and some names.

Wackness.

there'd be nearly as significant of a backlash for making transformers look like transformers.

edit: just look at that transformer Nike commercial...shit is completely possible to make transformer-looking robots seem uncorny in live-action form

This is the same as the huge nerdy life lesson I had to learn when Star Wars Episodes 1-3 came out.

You're a child of the 80s that grew up loving Star Wars, Transformers and Inspector Gadget?

The sad reality is that these moviemakers don't give one fuck about you. They weren't even really thinking about you when they started these new projects. Just like with Spiderman 3, for every diehard comic fan shouting foul when they screwed up on Venom's voice...there are about 1,000 kids out there that thought the whole movie was great.

That's the tragedy. Unless that Transformers movie is a huge unexpected flop, it will spawn a whole generation of kids wanting their parents to buy Transformers for them, and not ones that look like the old shit from the 80s. And if you complain about how Optimus Prime looks to Michael Bay, he'll be like oh yeah, so sorry patna, excuse me I gotta go look at my new Hummer for a minute.

its a geekFEST in this muhfucka

face it.

the wirters were fans fo the og transformer cartoons, and thats how they got the characters right.

but the design....

for '07..that shit woudl be corny as fuck

you realize this movie is made for 13 yr olds? (PG-13 rating after Speilberg "talked" to the MPAA)

you realize that these same 13 yrs old weren't alive for the after cartoons we grew up on? you realize these are the kids that will continue the transformer torch?

you knwo you're gonna see it so don't front

I liked Transformers and all, but I was never that big of a fan.

That said, those designs have way too much detail going on for me.

I could care less about them not looking like the original designs. It's all that crazy detail that makes them hard to read. I really can't tell what Ironhide is doing in that shot.

Granted, Bumblebee and Jazz are pretty decent to me.

Why the hell they turned Frenzy in to a metal Kremzeek is beyond me.

waaaaay too much going on for each character. Hate the faces on everyone exept Prime

And if Jazz isn't a Porshe, I'll cry

Starscream looks terrible...
How they gone make him look like this.

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Going off of the 20+ YO established canon of TF, Autobots (Cybertrons) and Decepticons (Destrons) are the same "race".
Autobots originally created as work machines, Decepticons originally created as military machines...
Both to be sold by their creators to various inhabited planets around the universe.

Why would one faction appear as monsters and the other less-threatening?

Chalk that up to bad writing by this film's creative staff.

They fucked a simple, yet expandable premise up.
They could have made TF movies well into the next decade, on some Star Wars shit if they handled it correctly.

not really diggin those autobots either BUT
they do look better than the decepticonss....

I can see why so many compalin, because people want the orignal design. but you realize, these are robots from space....ROBOTS FROM SPACE. They need to look technical and organic. I rather see these designs then some block shaping lego designs. Don't get me wrong, the original Transformers were nice, but it's 2007...we need to upgrade. This movie will RULE JULY and I also bet most of you guys will watch it. I can't wait. I'm looking forward to this movie.

as a longtime fan, i probly only got real beef with Megatron's design. cos at least with Optimus he's vaguely retained some of the original look, but Megs is completely new.

V.

The trailers for the movie dont look as bad as I thought. I know I'll enjoy it off the nostalgia factor alone. And if not that for the unintentional comedic level it's bound to have w/ Tygeek in it.

.

what am I missing here?

plus, even if the movie is shit. transformers has the best one of the best theatrical trailers in a minute

i'm there opening weekend

it's perfectly pitched to Bay's strengths, and weaknesses.

lol @ adult men online MAD about transformers

We all could prolly tap that if we wanted to...

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They all look like mutant Short Circuits.

he looks like a crystal, not the gun he used to be. i'm gonna wait and see how the movie is, but the transformers look horrible.

lol


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On initially being offered the project: "I'm not going to do that stupid toy movie"

On the cartoon: "the cartoons were so amateur, it would look stupid if you actually made that into a model"

what an ass

but what the fuck is going on with the decepticons?! That's some of the worst concept design I've ever seen.

this post is still insanely fanboyish though.

...i mean Soundwave was the shit on the cartoons ...but that wouldnt play to well if it was set in 2007 or later

But yeah the characters look unimpressive ..im afraid to see what Shockwave looks like

>...i mean Soundwave was the shit on the cartoons ...but that
>wouldnt play to well if it was set in 2007 or later

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s*** isn't that hard to spin

Starscream makes me wanna pull my hair out
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And Apple would get paid off all that like GM did.

... let's take the time out to think about this shit really. I don't know if ya'll know this but Transformers was a cartoon. A cartoon that we watched when we were little kids. The cartoon itself had a lot of loop holes we overlooked because we were kids. Now that we are adults, a lot of that same shit is not going to fly. Especially since we are now the ones PAYING to see this shit.

First of, the changes they made to the characters that everyone is talking about. Megatron was a handgun. A fucking handgun. That shit might have been cool to watch a 50 foot robot turn into a handgun when we were 8-10 years old, but that shit does not translate into a 90 minute film to the 25 and up. WTF? Onto Bumblebee, from what I understand is that VW did not want their brand to be in a movie associated with war and did not allow Bay to use it. Makes sense considering that the VW's are peace loving hippie mobiles(for the most part). Soundwave was a boombox/tapedeck whatever. A big ass robot that transforms into a ghetto blaster and shoots out tapes that turn into a bird, cat and a midget makes no sense. Now his character could be played two different ways. Either they can change his physical appearance(smart) and keep his loyalty to megatron in place(hopefully) or the could turn him into a 8 foot robot(weak) with the same personality (weaker). My point is... Stop all the crying!!!!! Be mature enough to realize that translating a 30 minute cartoon into a 90 ish minute film is going to involve some changes. Shit, even the animated film had to go through some changes. Optimus Prime died remember!!!!!!! At least see the movie first before you start crying about it.

just pop in the "Transformers: The Movie" VHS & pretend this never happened.

That's my plan.

They just tried too hard to modernize it & make it appeal to today's kids or something. For everybody saying "kids can't relate to tapedecks in 2007".. well, they could make the movie's timeframe the 80's, easy problem to solve. And about things being unbelievable... c'mon, gotta point to the same point they're making -- yep, it is based on a cartoon, it is based on fantasy & with all those things aren't you already suspending a certain amount of belief anyway so, what's the difference if it's for a giant robot that turns into some tiny object or any other fiction-based thing? Either way, that ish don't appeal to me very much aside from the name, "Transformers"

Face it, the franchise just got butchered on this one.

"They just tried too hard to modernize it & make it appeal to
today's kids or something. For everybody saying "kids can't
relate to tapedecks in 2007".. well, they could make the
movie's timeframe the 80's, easy problem to solve."

Not easy. It be much easier for them to make the film during the present tense cost/resource wise. Not to mention, the majority of movie goers are going to want to be impressed with the sleeknees that todays CGI can provide. I think only the purists would have appreciated making it take place in the eighties.


"And about things being unbelievable... c'mon, gotta point to the same point they're making -- yep, it is based on a cartoon, it is
based on fantasy & with all those things aren't you already
suspending a certain amount of belief anyway so, what's the
difference if it's for a giant robot that turns into some tiny
object or any other fiction-based thing?"

So you'd be perfectly fine if Megatron turned into a handgun, landed in Starscreams hand and Starscream mounted up on a horse, slapped on a cowboy hat/boots and started riding that horse into battle with the Autobots? Come on fam, even though fantasy is fantasy, it's gotta carry some sort of logical and BELIEVABLE explanation.


"Either way, that ish don't appeal to me very much aside from the name, "Transformers"Face it, the franchise just got butchered on this one."

And to make that sort of statement without seeing the movie is what I don't understand. I can understand you saying it does not look like it's going to be good. But the whole franchise being butchered? I wish Okayplayer would have been around when Optimus died because I think the pre-pubescent angst would have been quite similar.

>... let's take the time out to think about this shit really.
>I don't know if ya'll know this but Transformers was a
>cartoon. A cartoon that we watched when we were little kids.
>The cartoon itself had a lot of loop holes we overlooked
>because we were kids. Now that we are adults, a lot of that
>same shit is not going to fly. Especially since we are now the
>ones PAYING to see this shit.


Very valid point.
You and I both understand this to be true, but...


>Be mature enough to realize
>that translating a 30 minute cartoon into a 90 ish minute film
>is going to involve some changes. Shit, even the animated film
>had to go through some changes. Optimus Prime died
>remember!!!!!!! At least see the movie first before you start
>crying about it.


You and about everyone else online seems to think t hat the cartoon is the only source material to pull from... and it isn't.

Marvel had a good run in the 80's and early 90's with TF comics. They actually outlasted the TV show and featured the characters in more mature/dramatic settings.

There are some things that needed changing (vehicle modes dues to restrictions from auto makers, some plot devices) but it wasn't totally broken to start with. It just needed a little updating.

These cats that made the film tossed out damn near everything but some character names and the warring factions.
You'll see, if you go check it in theaters...

A lot of what made the original premise work got dropped like a bad habit, all in the name of "updating".

You guys want to call Transformers corny than cop PLEAS for
how shitty Spiderman 3 was?

Lol.


Transformers is going to SHIT on Spiderman.

Michael Bay deciding to shake it up a bit, do something a little
bit original with the looks. I fux with that shit something awful.
Shit looks like hot to me.

And a scoop of punani will make you realize that the Transformers
like you liked in the 5th grade wouldn't work in 2007. Stop being
a dweeb, and shit.

>
>You guys want to call Transformers corny than cop PLEAS for
>how shitty Spiderman 3 was?
>
>Lol.
>
>
>Transformers is going to SHIT on Spiderman.
>
>Michael Bay deciding to shake it up a bit, do something a
>little
>bit original with the looks. I fux with that shit something
>awful.
>Shit looks like hot to me.
>
>And a scoop of punani will make you realize that the
>Transformers
>like you liked in the 5th grade wouldn't work in 2007. Stop
>being
>a dweeb, and shit.

How you got to 9k posts is a miracle...

Aight so here's the truth as I see it... I'm fine with placing the timeframe in the now. Not a problem. I'm fine with updating the looks of the characters. Also, not a problem. I also agree that Spiderman 3 sucked. But that's all that we agree on son.

Truth is, changing the vehicles is the biggest problem. That's like making Spiderman a black dude. That's like making Batman a woman. Sure, we all love black people & females, but come now. That's just some bullshit. Certain things should stay the way they are.

"But dog, we're talking about robots, not people"... bullshit. THESE robots ARE the people in THIS universe. SO changing Bumblebee from a beetle to a fucking CAMARRO is basically like changing one of the aforementioned. The car reflects the characters personality. Period.

But here in Hollywood cash rules & since GM hasn't made a profit in oh over 20+ quarters they had to offer Bay prolly 10 mill just to get thier cars in the new TF. So all of our dreams of having a somewhat faithful port over get washed away by cash.

So there you have it.
TF will NOT shit on Spiderman.
Doing something different is NOT always 'right'.
& I got laid last night.
Your lame.

>How you got to 9k posts is a miracle...

I have a following, and I can't disappoint my fans on here(str8 up).

>Aight so here's the truth as I see it... I'm fine with placing
>the timeframe in the now. Not a problem. I'm fine with
>updating the looks of the characters. Also, not a problem. I
>also agree that Spiderman 3 sucked. But that's all that we
>agree on son.

Good.

>Truth is, changing the vehicles is the biggest problem. That's
>like making Spiderman a black dude. That's like making Batman
>a woman. Sure, we all love black people & females, but come
>now. That's just some bullshit. Certain things should stay the
>way they are.

Uh.

a)That ain't what the original poster was complaining about. He
was complaining about the way the robots LOOKED, and was
bitching SOLELY because they didn't look like the ones he
had in 5th grade.

b)Like I said, he needs cooch.

>"But dog, we're talking about robots, not people"... bullshit.
>THESE robots ARE the people in THIS universe. SO changing
>Bumblebee from a beetle to a fucking CAMARRO is basically like
>changing one of the aforementioned. The car reflects the
>characters personality. Period.

Personally, I think you guys are being needlessly nostalgic.

When I was a kid, the vehicle was SECONDARY(distantly) to the
character. All I really knew is that some cats drove, some cats flew.
What really mattered was how the niggas talked, interacted, their
personalities, shit like that.

The vehicles weren't *irrelevant* but you guys acting like that shit
completely redefines everything are just being dorky.

I mean, for christ sakes Optimus Prime, one of the coolest leaders
of any group ever, was a big ass BIG RIG Truck!

LOL!!!

One of the most BORING VEHICLES you can EVER hope to see!

Wasn't SHIT exciting about NO BIG FUCKING RIG!!! The only reason O Prime
was that dude was because his ROBOT SELF WAS THAT DUDE!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


ADMIT IT, MUFFUCKA!!!!

>But here in Hollywood cash rules & since GM hasn't made a
>profit in oh over 20+ quarters they had to offer Bay prolly 10
>mill just to get thier cars in the new TF. So all of our
>dreams of having a somewhat faithful port over get washed away
>by cash.

WHO.GIVES. A.MOTHER.FUCK!!!

The question is this one:

WILL THE MOTHERFUCKING MOVIE BE ENTERTAINING, WELL WRITTEN,
COHERENT, and EXCITING

The motherfucking VENOM looked GREAT in Spiderman 3!!

Mr. Sandman was VERY FAITHFUL in Spiderman 3!

Problem is, the motherfucking STORY FUCKING SUCKED!!!

That is why the shit was garbation.


>So there you have it.
>TF will NOT shit on Spiderman.
>Doing something different is NOT always 'right'.

Who the fuck said that?


>& I got laid last night.


No, you didn't.


>Your lame.

Not quite.

I'm fucking amazing, and shit, god.


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>I have a following, and I can't disappoint my fans on
>here(str8 up).
>
Come now son.. how you gonna' have a 'following' on a message board..?
& even if you did, how could that make what you say relevant?

>
>When I was a kid, the vehicle was SECONDARY(distantly) to the
>character. All I really knew is that some cats drove, some
>cats flew.
>What really mattered was how the niggas talked, interacted,
>their
>personalities, shit like that.
>
>The vehicles weren't *irrelevant* but you guys acting like
>that shit
>completely redefines everything are just being dorky.

Ok so apparently you didn't really pay much attention to how the characters were & how the vehicles reflected the certain characters emotions & how they interacted with each other. IE: you just proved my point.

>
>>But here in Hollywood cash rules & since GM hasn't made a
>>profit in oh over 20+ quarters they had to offer Bay prolly
>10
>>mill just to get thier cars in the new TF. So all of our
>>dreams of having a somewhat faithful port over get washed
>away
>>by cash.
>
>WHO.GIVES. A.MOTHER.FUCK!!!

Whooooaaa... settle down there skimpy. The all caps thing...


>The question is this one:
>
>WILL THE MOTHERFUCKING MOVIE BE ENTERTAINING, WELL WRITTEN,
>COHERENT, and EXCITING

I'm sure it'll be well written. I'm sure it'll be exciting. I'm sure it'll be coherent. The thing is that this movie *like all other Bay films* is going to be like a platinum blonde with big ol' boobies & a banging body: she's great to look at but there's really no substance there...

>The motherfucking VENOM looked GREAT in Spiderman 3!!

You must be a fan of the Larson Venom & not the McFarlane Venom.
Figures...

>>Doing something different is NOT always 'right'.
>
>Who the fuck said that?

The producers of this movie who brainwashed you into thinking that this 'different' approach is 'cool'.

>
>>& I got laid last night.
>
>
>No, you didn't.

Actaully I did.

>>Your lame.
>
>Not quite.

Yeah huh.

There could be concern due to some past Bay movies being noticeably lacking in story. But we can deal with that when it comes.

Those robots, regardless of what they used to look like, still looked primed and ready to blow shit up and kick ass and be cool. I could give a fuck how faithful it is.

One of my FAVORITE comic book movie character adaptations for the screen EVER was Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin. People shat the bed cuz he didn't look like the comic, he was black, oh no! But the bottom line was name ONE WHITE ACTOR who would've captured the essence, the coolness, and the intimidation factor of the Kingpin better than Michael Clarke Duncan.

If you want strict translations, read some fan fiction or some shit. I'm gonna see this movie opening day and see a kickass war of robots with guns.

>There could be concern due to some past Bay movies being
>noticeably lacking in story. But we can deal with that when it
>comes.

Sure. Michael Bay is certainly cause for alarm, no doubt,
but let's see.

>Those robots, regardless of what they used to look like, still
>looked primed and ready to blow shit up and kick ass and be
>cool. I could give a fuck how faithful it is.

Yessiree bob.

>One of my FAVORITE comic book movie character adaptations for
>the screen EVER was Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin. People
>shat the bed cuz he didn't look like the comic, he was black,
>oh no! But the bottom line was name ONE WHITE ACTOR who
>would've captured the essence, the coolness, and the
>intimidation factor of the Kingpin better than Michael Clarke
>Duncan.

Couldn't possibly agree more.

>If you want strict translations, read some fan fiction or some
>shit. I'm gonna see this movie opening day and see a kickass
>war of robots with guns.

Yessiree bob.

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Sorry to break the news to you.

>a)That ain't what the original poster was complaining about.
>He
>was complaining about the way the robots LOOKED, and was
>bitching SOLELY because they didn't look like the ones he
>had in 5th grade.

YOUR THOUGHTS AIN'T MY THOUGHTS! (c) Rev. X
How you gonna tell a muhfucka what I'm thinking?

Ask me exactly what I meant, and I'll post up here.
Until then eat a dick, fairy.

....but the problem is...they look LESS original

They look like soulless machinations, IMO.

Dawg, you's a nerd.


Stop being a nerd.

Them shits look fine.

and I had all the toys.

Every year can't be fucking 1984. Some things are meant to stay there.

Don't click this link if you want to be surprised in the theater...

If you don't care and want to see how this film plays out, here you go: http://www.sendspace.com/file/k2q95a

Weigh in with your opinion, if you like...
I'm curious to find out what others think.

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Fuck our collective childhoods, I'm cosigning these redesigns.





Still ain't gonna pay to see the shit, though.

"Everyone has an opinion and everyone has their own personal memories- I understand that. But I've learned a long time ago that you cannot please everybody. I wouldn't have it any other way. This was probably the first film that I dedicated to myself. Words cannot express how proud I am of the outcome, and I'm sure many will agree.

I am confident that I will show the world how Transformers look through MY eyes. And it will be one hundred times better than how you remembered it. I'm here to revolutionize everything you know about the Transformers, not recreate it. To the ones who doubt- sorry but I'm not in the business of nostalgia. I'm a filmmaker, and a damn good one too."

-Michael Bay GQ magazine interview April 2007

Yeah. He carries it. I didn't give a fuck about seeing this movie, but I may just see it, because of this.

Or an Ass...
Nah... I mean I feel where he's coming from.. I really do. but at the same time tho' in this biz you have to be REAL careful what you say *especially in an interview for GQ mag*.. he's got Producers & a film company to please.

I'm not expecting Shakespeare here... & I think it would look cheezy as hell if they looked like they did back in the day. Let's admit that. BUT there's just certain shit that shouldn't have/ didn't need to change... IMO...
Opening night.. we will see.

>To the ones who doubt- sorry but I'm not in the business of
>nostalgia. I'm a filmmaker, and a damn good one too."
>
>-Michael Bay GQ magazine interview April 2007




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If he wanted to create something new, he would have called it something like Pretendobots or something. You can't trade on a name and brand and pretend like you have no responsibility to the history behind it all. If you want to do something new and revolutionary, do your own thing apart from it. Don't ruin something for a lot of folks who have an investment in the success of the franchise just because you have an artistic vision you'd like to indulge.

Optimus Prime I could kind of deal with, but the rest of the character designs I've seen are a mess.

If he falls on his face with this he deserves to fall hard.

in fact, i always had these amazing "revolutionizing-showing-my-own-spin-through-MY-eyes" ideas for if i ever was put in charge of a Voltron movie. and i'm still positive those ideas would kick ass and everyone would love it if i ever had the alternate-life chance to do it.

the problem is...he didn't do something new and original to their looks. he made them MORE generic.

but even though i'm not expecting much of a transformers movie, i AM expecting one hell of a sick ass Giant Robot movie. i'll give him that much, especially after seeing the latest trailer. i'm excited anyway

>I'm a filmmaker, and a damn good one too."
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>-Michael Bay GQ magazine interview April 2007

i'm prolly not gonna watch it anyway though ha

http://jalopnik.com/cars/robots-in-disguise%27%27%27in-disguise/transformers-movie-update-sector-seven-video-gives-nod-to-dinobots-insecticons-261435.php

http://home.comcast.net/~themichaelsmith/TransZ.mpg

Same cat that did that transforming VW from a few years back.

and say Bay's design are better?


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When a Black kills a White, it's execution time.
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ILM + Binaltech-style designs = GOLD.

MICHAEL BAY FUCKING LOST.

Jazz in particular is horrid...how can he even walk with those legs?

Everyone says that you can't make them look unrealistic but the new designs for the movie look MORE unrealistic, it's like how could all those damn parts and details even fit into a car? And even then, like transforming cars are real...GTFOH. Let Optimus' tires disappear into his legs or some shit...who cares as long as it looks cool and similar to the history.

I like THIS version much better (the clip above). Even in it, you still see the tires on bumblebee (unlike the 80's cartoon).

The worst thing about the new designs is he took away the faces.

That's kinda how I determined the differences between characters. They all had simpler faces/heads.


Bay's designers fucked up, we all know it if you watched TF's as a kid. But I still think the movie will be entertaining and have a decent plot. I just hope I'm not annoyed at the CGI of the robots movements. If everything is fluent, I'll still enjoy the film, just not as much as I would if the movie looked more like the clip above.

That's what I been telling cats! LOL

PLOT IN A NUTSHELL:
If the bad guys acquire the MacGuffin, the Earth is doomed.
If the good guys acquire the MacGuffin, the Earth is saved.

Just so happens, one lone human boy unknowingly has the secret to the location of the MacGuffin and becomes the improbable hero at the end of the film.

A lotta shit blows up real good in between.

There goes your $9.50, ock.

so...who's gonna fuss about it?

We just want the action sequences to be good, along with some semblance of a story to wrap around it.

A transformers MOVIE is just as much about visual pleasure as it is about action/nostalgia.

altho the cartoon (and comic) had plotholes galore that shit was way deeper than ppl in this post are trying to say

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The good:
1- My favorite is Optimus Prime - looks dope as shit.

2- Bumblebee looks really cool too.

3- Ironhide looks pretty cool... I honestly don't remember what he used to look like either.

4- Same for Blackout - looks cool, but I don't remember him.


Not sure about:
5- Megatron looks cool, but it's so damn different... for no real reason. It might grow on me but my initial reaction is negative.


The bad:
6- Jazz is fucking lame.

7&8- Starscream and Frenzy look fucking awful. Frenzy is easily the worst of the bunch by far.

not the story/plot
not the action
not the Michael Bay shit
not the fact that Megatron is no longer a gun, Bumblebee is no longer a VW, etc
not even the Spielberg + Paramount/Viacom ratings-dodger machine

the robots look like shit.

Beast Wars managed to change the designs up to something more "weird" but keep them somehow still looking like Transformers.

the newer Transformers animated shows...the robots still look like what a Transformer should look like.

But that shit looks like someone took a sledgehammer to a mainframe computer and put wheels on it. That's not even remotely cool.

Not to a Transformers fan, not to a casual fan, maybe to bleary-eyed jabronis who get cheap thrills off things blowing up.

There's a way to not make the robots look cartoonish, but at the same time make them look mainstream-action acceptable, and this isn't it.

Whoever designed those walking piles of asymmetrical crap should have been fired.

Powerful


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(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop

With his robotic dick(no homo)

And then directed a movie better than ^^^^he
wants to admit.