>>Death Proof was made by a guy who would fellate himself if
>he
>>could. Quentin is really starting to believe his own hype
>and
>>it showed. His ego is the downfall of this movie. His
>>dialgoue, which he thinks everybody wants to hear and well
>>love instantly, was terrible. The movie dragged on forever.
>He
>>thinks he is raising the bar by being a man and writing
>>dialgoue for women. He isn't. The car chase scene was
>boring.
>>No suspense. The film is Quentin's homage to himself and not
>>to the genre(s).
>
>but you know what? part of QT's appeal IS the (self-)mythology
>that surrounds him... i don't see that as a shortcoming at
>all.
>
>it's actually the same situation with Spike Lee... was the
>first or only or even the best Black director making movies in
>the 1980s and 90s?
>
>of course not.
>
>it's just that he was such a massive self-promoter who
>imprinted his personality on every movie or TV show or
>commercial he ever shot. he created a BRAND. when you watch a
>Spike Lee Joint, like it or hate it, you *know* you are
>watching Spike Lee.
>
>it's like that with a LOT of great directors, actually...
>Scorsese, De Palma, Spielberg, Woody Allen, Hitchcock.. you
>name 'em. ultimately, their movies are really about
>THEMSELVES.
>
>and there's nothing wrong with that. it's actually the thing
>that distinguishes great directors from merely competent
>ones.
>

But here is the thing. Thats fine if it works. If it doesn't work, then what? And in Death Proof, it was a hindrance.

Dialogue and writing is supposedly Quentin's forte, right? But the dialgoue sucked, it was annoying, and it was stale. And he was totally dependent on his old ideas that used to work. How many foot shots did we have to see over and over again? How many old movies did they have to mention every single time? It didn't work.



>what annoyed me is that he attempted to pay tribute to bad
>movies by MAKING a bad movie... i hate that shit. i think it's
>kinda cheating... pre-emptively copping a plea for being
>inept.
>

Quentin falls in this category with Death Proof.

Not Rodriguez. These films are right up Rob's alley. He can do these in his sleep. Desperado, Dusk till Dawn, Sin City,

>so when you watch Planet Terror and it makes no narrative
>sense, and Marley Shelton's character breaks her hand when
>she's trynna open the car door, if you ask why her hand is
>perfectly unharmed 5 seconds later, you're a loser because
>you're "taking it too seriously."
>

no, it was funny.

mofos busted out laughing when she broke her hand in the theatre.

>with Death Proof... QT did something different: he tried to
>pay tribute to bad movies by making a GOOD movie. did he
>succeed? not all the way... but he tried.
>

QT didn't do anything but revere himself.

The only thing Death Proof was about was "hey look at me, look how brilliant I am. Look, I'm a man writing dialogue for women, and it sounds so cotdamn natural. i'm a genius....look Ma, no CGI!! I'm a real director...i got a stunt women who looks just like my muse, UMA, and i'm going to make her a star....i'm going to make Sydney Portier's daughter a star...i'm going to give Kurt Russel his career back just like I did Travolta...I'm Quentin Tarantino...and I'm great...and damn I can write dialogue for black people...I'm white and I know how black people act and talk better than a lot of black people do...i'm so cool and such a genius...i should fellate myself...wait till they hear my dialogue...Shakespeare who?".


>i think making a bad movie on purpose is just too cheap, too
>easy... it's the loser's way out and it's insulting to the
>audience.
>
>but i AM glad so many people seem to like Planet Terror even
>though i hated every frame of it... because for a while i felt
>sorry and embarrassed for Rodriguez. now i can just say
>"different strokes... i guess the movie wasn't made for people
>like me" and shrug it off.
>

Nah, i think Tarantino is in that boat.

Rob will move on do his Sin City's and Machete's, keep making the movies he tends to make.

But Tarantino? Its kind of murky of what his future holds.