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Topic subjectI hear you.
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53945, I hear you.
Posted by jambone, Thu Apr-12-07 09:54 AM
>because it seems that the anti-QT camp always makes a lot of
>really radical and somewhat baseless statements in order to
>support their arguments.
>
>(no disrespect, jam... you know i love you)
>

its all goood.

much respect.

>>it really wasn't anything. and it hasn't aged well either.
>>
>>he got lucky.
>
>jambone... if you tell me that you don't like Pulp Fiction, i
>will just have to say "okay... your opinion" and walk away.
>
>when you say that it hasn't aged well, i will agree with you
>to a *certain* degree (most things from the early 90s in
>general look tacky to me now)
>
>when you say "it wasn't anything" and "he got lucky"... well,
>then i will have to say that you are either bugging or
>hating.
>
>if you mean "he got lucky that it was a smash hit," then
>okay.
>
>but if you mean "he got lucky that it was a good script"...
>come on, now. a screenplay like that doesn't happen by luck.
>

no, the former.

he got lucky that it was a smash hit. it became frankenstein.

i'm not saying it was a sh*tty screenplay, no.

i'm saying its not that great of a film.

i think its a travesty that Quentin is measured by Pulp as opposed to Kill Bill or Reservoir Dogs, which, imo, are better works and shows more of his directorial skills than Pulp does.

>>He has regressed with Death Proof and took several steps
>back
>>by resting on his old sh*t that was once hip and slick, but
>>now stale and tired.
>
>i can't tell you that Death Proof is by any means my favorite
>of his work... but it was an entertaining and moderately
>successful experiment.
>

see, it was a failure, and really insulting to his so-called talent.

Death Proof was made by a guy who would fellate himself if he could. Quentin is really starting to believe his own hype and it showed. His ego is the downfall of this movie. His dialgoue, which he thinks everybody wants to hear and well love instantly, was terrible. The movie dragged on forever. He thinks he is raising the bar by being a man and writing dialgoue for women. He isn't. The car chase scene was boring. No suspense. The film is Quentin's homage to himself and not to the genre(s).

Death Proof was a bad movie. A glass 3/4's empty.

>i've refrained from confronting you on your passionate praise
>for Planet Terror which actually made me incredibly angry when
>i was watching it, though. *that* was a really regressive
>movie, IMHO.

lol. Why did it make you angry? Planet Terror was what it was, an enjoyabe movie. Is it going to cure cancer? No. Will it go down in history as one of the finest moments of cinema? No. But you can't compartmentalize Planet Terror. You either can enjoy for what its worth or you don't.

I liked Planet Terror, because its not taking itself seriously. Quentin takes himself waaaaaaaaay too seriously. And because of it, he failed with Death Proof. Death Proof was all about Quentin. Planet Terror was all about the audience.