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53521, THE OFFICIAL DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER DISCUSSION POST
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jul-22-07 10:22 AM
NOTE: Any future "Deathly Hallows"-related posts will be deleted.


Cuz y'all, we need to talk about the best book in the most popular series of our time. Yes, I said it.



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A body count of nearly 20 known characters? WORD? Ballsy. Nonstop action sequences, including a highspeed motorcycle chase in midair AND a break into Gringotts? Can't wait to see those in the movie. The battle of Hogwarts? Unfuckingbelievable. And the BADASS DIALOGUE that Harry and Voldemort share at the very very end? So amazing.

And the best one-liner CLEARLY goes to Molly Weasley, on some classic action movie on-liner type shit.
53522, GET AWAY FROM MY DAUGHTER YOU BITCH
Posted by bshelly, Sun Jul-22-07 12:11 PM
53523, that shit had me jumping up and down like a little girl
Posted by dunk, Tue Jul-24-07 02:17 AM
i was like, finally someone curses in the book.

i was hype as hell during that part.
53524, what we need to talk about is The Prince's Tale
Posted by bshelly, Sun Jul-22-07 12:19 PM
aka the Snape Chapter

single best thing she's ever written. she nailed one of the most complex characters in the history of epic fiction/kids lit/whatever in 15 pages. if your heat didn't break in that chapter, you've never lost someone because you're a dumbass. and then, to have to teach the perfect amalgamation of the person you will love forever and the person who took her away from you, and to have htat person be the son you never had, and the person you basically have to dedicate your life to...it's enough to drive someone batshit crazy.

an interesting subtheme throughout the book is how love for one person can save you. the malfoys are pretty much redeemed by the end of the book, mainly because they love each other and can't stand what voldy is doing to the other members of the family. then, of course, there's snape, who, while he would deny it to the end, clearly learned to love a lot more people while believing he only loved Lily, Harry and Dumbledore chief among them.
53525, That was a good chapter
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jul-22-07 12:57 PM
53526, you've never lost someone because you're a dumbass... ouch
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53527, we need an okp dumbass heartbreak support group
Posted by bshelly, Sun Jul-22-07 03:52 PM
where everyone is in it.

i think everyone (or at least every guy) does it once.
53528, not just guys can be dumbasses
Posted by sweet ruffian, Sun Jul-22-07 11:58 PM
53529, no, but it is one of our defining features
Posted by DubSpt, Tue Jul-31-07 02:21 AM
53530, I agree entirely.
Posted by murph25, Mon Jul-23-07 12:35 PM
Even those of us who knew from the start that Snape would turn out to be one of the good guys really learned some interesting backstory in that chapter - she convincingly explained his motivation throughout all the previous books. I also loved the way she parallels Harry's experiences at Hogwart's with the stuff his Mom, Dad, and Snape went through. Snape was in a sense as much a father to Harry as Dumbledore was, even though he chose to hide that affection from him. And it was appropriate that Harry's revelation that Snape cared about him came when it did - at the pivotal moment before Harry fulfills his destiny. Snape's memories serve as the catalyst for Harry's victory, not just by giving him clues and information, but also bringing him into adulthood emotionally. When he accepts and understands Snape's role in his life, he is able to summon the strength to face that final challenge. The way Rowling built the complex relationships of those 3 characters - Albus, Severus, and Harry - was really clever, and she managed to make it pay off in quite a rewarding way, I thought.
53531, dopest part was the chap before....
Posted by DVS, Mon Jul-30-07 11:13 PM
when he asked Harry to look into his eyes before he died....

real touching in retrospect...'cause Harry has Lily's eyes.
53532, Message to the kids:
Posted by bshelly, Sun Jul-22-07 12:20 PM
don't make 7 horcruxes and kill a lot of people. you'll end up a CUT UP FETUS ON THE FLOOR OF A TRAIN STATION.

Disturbing.
53533, there was only one real shock to me
Posted by bayoubyyou, Sun Jul-22-07 02:35 PM
well, not just one, but the biggest one that made me gasp...dobby. he's what lured me to harry potter in the first place. i shed a tear or two.
53534, Far more crazy was the death of...
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jul-22-07 04:00 PM
...Hedwig. Who honestly saw that coming?
53535, RE: Far more crazy was the death of...
Posted by bshelly, Sun Jul-22-07 04:19 PM
hedwig shocked me a little more, but dobby's was still shocking, well done, and gut wrenching.
53536, that was how i knew she wasnt gonna mess around in this book
Posted by bayoubyyou, Sun Jul-22-07 08:41 PM
she came right out murking folks
53537, i know, i was like "damn, she's cold blooded in this on"
Posted by dunk, Tue Jul-24-07 02:21 AM
the people dieing at the beginning were shocking.

then the bunch at the end were crazy though. sad as hell

wasn't it said that she was crying when writing parts of this?
53538, That one seemed the most "gratuitous," if that's the right word
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Jul-24-07 12:41 AM
It was like she thought, "Well, Harry's not at Hogwarts, and he doesn't really NNED an owl, so fuck it. Let's kill her."

Dobby's was the most heartbreaking, but nonetheless important, because it reminded Harry that he needed to stop fucking around chasing the Hallows.
53539, dobby dying was FUCKED up, that was harsh
Posted by Ally Al 2003, Sun Jul-22-07 06:47 PM
more than lupin, tonks or fred. I was choked

I was glad the malfoys held their ground in a funny sort of way

the only wierd thing for me was the lack of snape because he'd played such a big part in the other books, he went out like a bitch! I expected a blaze of glory (c) jon bon
53540, i kind of feel like snape's end was fitting though
Posted by unity, Sun Jul-22-07 06:54 PM
i also expected more from him in the end, but at the same time, the flashbacks in the pensieve show once and for all that although he was clever, he was never strong.

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53541, snape ?
Posted by Vicious Lee, Sun Jul-22-07 07:01 PM
good guy, did not expect that
53542, it was certainly very well written
Posted by Ally Al 2003, Sun Jul-22-07 07:05 PM
nice sneaks in the avi btw :)
53543, it really was.
Posted by unity, Sun Jul-22-07 08:15 PM
oh, and thanks.

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53544, I don't even think the flashbacks show him to be clever either.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jul-22-07 07:17 PM
He seems like he was never cool and he kept fucking up in his one goal, which was to make Lily love him. He didn't even orchestrate anything at the end, it was all Dumbledore telling him what to do.

I don't think Snape was ever strong, or ever clever. But he was brave enough to go through with what he was told to do.
53545, we already knew he was clever though
Posted by unity, Sun Jul-22-07 08:18 PM
being the half blood prince and all. he was no dummy, but he was horribly weak.

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53546, he was clever enough to not fuck up. hell, he had to play both sides.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jul-22-07 08:19 PM
53547, cmon
Posted by bshelly, Mon Jul-23-07 11:54 AM
he was enough of an occlumens to keep voldemort out of his head.

snape was the only person to beat harry in a duel throughout the entire series.

snape cleared up dumbledore's hand from a curse by voldy.

snape could fucking fly.

snape could brew veriserum.

snape was the third most powerful wizard in the damn world.

recognize.
53548, You putting him third behind Albus and Harry?
Posted by JungleSouljah, Mon Jul-23-07 10:19 PM
Or behind Albus and Tom?

Or did you mean to say fourth?
53549, 1) dumbledore
Posted by bshelly, Tue Jul-24-07 10:19 AM
2) voldemort
3) snape

after that, you have a bunch of candidates: bella, mcconagall, kingsley shacklebolt, hermione, and, by the looks of it, molly "john mcclain" weasley.

and maaaaybe harry. yes, he took down voldemort, but that may have been like the mavs/warriors, where a better team got took down because the lesser team was completely designed to exploit their flaws. we already saw snape whup up pretty decisively on harry. all the wizards listed above clearly know more spells than harry.

on harry's side, though, he did fight bella to a draw when he was 15, even if she probably would have won by split decision on the judges' scorecards. he also took down every other Death Eater he faced in the series. he also seems to have the whole higher magic thing licked, and he's obviously got balls of steal.

if you're just talking in terms of dueling, i would think 17 year old harry could probably beat anybody but dumbledore, snape, and mcconagall. so, by that standard, i guess i have him at #5.
53550, Works for me
Posted by JungleSouljah, Tue Jul-24-07 10:55 AM
I have real issues as to where to put Harry. I mean in some ways he's the most well rounded dude in the series. He was able to put the Hallows together when no one else on the planet could. He took down Voldemort at least 3 times if not 7 (baby, book 1, book 2, book 4, book 5 - voldy lost the mind meld big time, book 7 at least twice if not three times). Kid has the greatest instinct of any character in any medium in the entirety of human history. He was a solid dueler and Patronus maker.

And he was 17.

Which is why I'm curious as to what happened in the intervening 19 years. Kid had MAJOR upside. Is he an Auror? What's the deal?
53551, lol, cuz I just saw; molly "john mcclain" weasley
Posted by earthqueen, Wed Aug-08-07 06:41 PM
53552, I recognize
Posted by Zion3Lion, Tue Jul-31-07 01:15 AM
although I only read two books, the 6th one and Deathly Hallows, I really enjoyed the back story behind Snape. He proved himself in the end. Also liked the backstory behind Dumbledore. just goes to show you, everyone isn't who you think they are and how someone's past shapes them.
53553, yeah
Posted by MeAnD_7, Wed Jul-25-07 05:23 PM
for me too

i didn't care so much about the bird but Dobby...i felt that
53554, Just finished. Wow.
Posted by Melanism, Sun Jul-22-07 04:55 PM
Snape revealed

Minerva.

NEVILLE killing Nagini!

When Harry read Voldemort the riot act, I was cheese grinning.

And the epilogue...just wow


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53555, "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU BITCH!"
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sun Jul-22-07 06:12 PM
That literally had me rolling on the floor laughing.
53556, man she got GANGSTA on Bellatrix
Posted by earthqueen, Sun Jul-22-07 08:57 PM
I'm can't wait to see how they do their fight for the movie. They had her throwin her cloak off like...OH HELL NAW!
53557, the woman gave birth 7 times.
Posted by unity, Sun Jul-22-07 09:07 PM
NEVER mess with anyone who is the mother of 7 children.

and ole girl came after her only daughter too? bellatrix was bound to get ethered that way.

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53558, the movie scene: cloak thrown off, "ante up" in the background
Posted by bshelly, Mon Jul-23-07 12:09 AM
53559, hahahahahaha
Posted by homeslice21, Mon Jul-23-07 01:28 AM

<---- better than Jason Campbell.
53560, Only on this board
Posted by JungleSouljah, Mon Jul-23-07 10:23 PM
Priceless. A bunch of 20 and 30 something year olds discussing the final volume of history's most popular book series. And then discuss how a pivotal scene in the ensuing film will be shot. And then what the background music will be.

Ante up. lmao.
53561, LOL
Posted by dunk, Tue Jul-24-07 02:24 AM
everyone in the audience would be hype as hell too.

Niggas shouting, "ah shit, hear she goes!. get that bitch!"
53562, I laughed out loud too...but it was sad.
Posted by ororo_munroe, Mon Jul-23-07 08:23 AM
she didn't want to lose her only girl too :-(
53563, thought it was kinda corny
Posted by JBoogs, Wed Jul-25-07 09:29 AM
Rambo moment ehhh

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53564, i can't believe it's over.
Posted by unity, Sun Jul-22-07 06:19 PM
i feel simultaneously happy and sad, exhilarated and exhausted.

hedwig and dobby....
those were heartbreaking losses

but fred. wow. how wil george go on without his twin?!

neville. is. gangsta.
(and so's his grandma. i see where his parents got it from)

they should have known not to mess with mrs. weasley. i've been waiting for her to clap on fools for a minute.

i loved seeing the complexity of dumbledore's and snape's characters. it really took the story beyond the usual simplified line betweekn good and evil to a more realistic blurred space.

ummm so who raised ted lupin tho? i figured harry and ginny would have done.

*sigh* i almost wish it weren't over. i think i might go read it again.

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53565, not as gangsta as harry with the cruciatus curse
Posted by bshelly, Sun Jul-22-07 06:56 PM
"you really DO have to mean it."
53566, Neville is a fucking G
Posted by dunk, Tue Jul-24-07 02:26 AM

>
>neville. is. gangsta.
>(and so's his grandma. i see where his parents got it from)


this went through my mind form the moment Neville showed up at the end. They way he was nonchalant when talking about getting totured, standing up to people and talking shit to Voldy when all was suppose to be lost.

Made wizard for life...
53567, Just finished...
Posted by Origin05, Sun Jul-22-07 07:59 PM

1) Anyone else doubt Harry as much as I did.. Dumbledore gave him incredible remarks in the "Kings Cross" chapter. Apparently Harry grew into himself and grew up ALOT in this book

2) Did Harry/Hermione/Ron ever finish Hogwarts? Did they attend summer school? lol I was wanting some closure in the Epilogue-- it was kind of disappointing.. what does Harry do professionally?

3) Who did raise Teddy?


I am so sad to see it end but it ended well.. The final dialogue between Harry and Voldemort was ABSOLUTELY incredible.. its going to make a FANTASTIC movie.
Neville and Kreacher stood out to me in this book
Dobby.. RIP that was heartwrenching as was Hedwig!

Anyone else believe Hagrid died as well!? I was so sad but then regained some happiness lol
53568, oh
Posted by bayoubyyou, Sun Jul-22-07 08:37 PM
i just knew hagrid was a goner...when those spiders got him, i figured j.k. rowling was just gonna all out and kill em all...but he reappeared, and i had hope...

but still...she is coldblooded...colin creevey?! what he ever do to anybody...
53569, All I could think about..
Posted by Origin05, Sun Jul-22-07 08:47 PM

Was him stalking Harry lol.
Poor kid
53570, Yeah, the Creevey death was sad as Hell too
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Jul-24-07 12:45 AM
Really, he didn't deserve that.
53571, Did Harry/Hermione/Ron ever finish Hogwarts? .
Posted by earthqueen, Sun Jul-22-07 08:49 PM
at the end of the battle, it kind of eluded to it said there was a bed waiting for him in the Gryffindor tower
53572, yea but thats like not even 1/2 a semester.. lol
Posted by Origin05, Sun Jul-22-07 08:59 PM

I'm just confused with some things still
53573, ya know? lol. what else are u confused about?
Posted by earthqueen, Sun Jul-22-07 09:07 PM
I've been waiting since yesterday morning to talk about this since yesterday morning.
53574, a few things..
Posted by Origin05, Sun Jul-22-07 09:12 PM
1) The veil from the 5th book never was fully explained.
2) What happened to Luna in the end of everything?
3) So the Wand of Destiny was rightfully Harry's in the end?
4) Was Harry an Auror? Did he work for the ministry?
5) Did Kingsley remain as Minister?
6) What happened to all the Death Eaters?
7) Was the Malfoy family ever punished?

Small things that irked me.. shoot me with some things you feel as well? I want to run over ideas before the second read
53575, RE: a few things..
Posted by earthqueen, Sun Jul-22-07 09:34 PM
>1) The veil from the 5th book never was fully explained.
Nope. I looked for a deeper meaning in this one but it just mentioned Sirius going into it... I may have to look that one over, see if it's in the 6th book.

>2) What happened to Luna in the end of everything?

Well she was sitting next to Harry so we know she made it. Perhaps she didn't think Luna's future important enough to spell out. Did you peep Dean gettin close with her though?

>3) So the Wand of Destiny was rightfully Harry's in the end?

yes because he had disarmed it from Draco. The wand didn't work right for Voldy cuz he never defeated the wand's REAL heir.

>4) Was Harry an Auror? Did he work for the ministry?
It didn't say, but they all wanted to be Aurors.

>5) Did Kingsley remain as Minister?
I was hoping he did! You want answers to stuff she didn't write! but yeah I was like aight Kingsley!

>6) What happened to all the Death Eaters?
Well it said Greyback and McNair were defeated. She didn't elaborate, only said they were out numbred. Sent to Azkaban perhaps?

>7) Was the Malfoy family ever punished?
I think their punishment was being shown as the cowards they truly were. They're outkast now. I did appreciate Narcissa not giving up Harry though, even if it was for selfish reasons..

yeah it was some unfinished business mos def. the second time I read it, I paid REAL close attention to Dumbledore's story, and the connections between Harry and Voldy.

question: what was that in the flask that Snape gave Harry while he was bleeding out?
53576, thanks!
Posted by Origin05, Sun Jul-22-07 09:48 PM

I didn't notice Luna/Dean.. I probably will on the re-read
As for the veil.. I really hope I missed something because it had left me perplexed in the 5th book. I only read HBP once so maybe I need to read it once more.
As for the flask: Those were memories for Harry to view in the Pensive
53577, RE: a few things..
Posted by ororo_munroe, Mon Jul-23-07 08:23 AM

>question: what was that in the flask that Snape gave Harry
>while he was bleeding out?

Pensieve brain juice!
53578, on harry being an auror: i thought he was ruled out of ever being one.
Posted by ororo_munroe, Mon Jul-23-07 08:31 AM
>4) Was Harry an Auror? Did he work for the ministry?

maybe i'm not remembering correctly, but i thought they took their "levels" in book 5, and harry didn't get high enough marks, permanently disqualifying him from being an auror...can anyone verify?

i'm pretty sure this happened, and that hermione was the only one from whom that path was still open...

53579, well, uh, Harry villed Voldemort.
Posted by Invisiblist, Mon Jul-23-07 09:25 AM
I think that would qualify him.
53580, just going off of what was actually written...nothing more. n'm
Posted by ororo_munroe, Mon Jul-23-07 09:55 AM
n'm
53581, no.
Posted by bshelly, Mon Jul-23-07 11:45 AM
the original problem was that snape wouldn't let anyone into potions without the highest grades on the OWLs, and Aurors needed potions for seven years. however, when slughorn took over potions in book 6, he let people with the second highest level into his class. the scene where they're picking their classes with McConagall in Book 6 explains everything.
53582, i think all the important questions were answered
Posted by unity, Sun Jul-22-07 09:16 PM
but there are some details, most of which have already been mentioned here previously, that are still hanging. for example:

- did they finish hogwarts? (i'd say probably. especially hermione. you KNOW she was going back to school)

- what do they do for a living? (aside for neville, no idea. i'm suprised that more of them didn't end up teaching at hogwarts though. i'd have pegged harry for future headmaster)

- who raised ted lupin? i assumed that harry would have.

- did george continue the business on his own, or did the loss of fred take the life out of him?

- what happened to all the remaining death eaters and other creatures who followed voldemort? (particularly the dementors and giants)

- which also leads me to wonder, what happened with the relationship between wizards and other magical creatures (did all house elves get free? did relations with goblins improve?) and between the wizarding world and the muggle world?


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53583, yea but
Posted by earthqueen, Sun Jul-22-07 09:44 PM
especially hermione. you KNOW she was going back to school)
LOL right.

>- who raised ted lupin? i assumed that harry would have.
Well Tonk's mother lived...

>- did george continue the business on his own, or did the loss
>of fred take the life out of him?
I wondered that myself

> (did all house elves get free?

remember the house elves didn't WANT to be free. Hermione tried to free them in book 5 ?
>and between the wizarding world and the muggle world?

the question should be did Hermione find her parents and set them right?!?



53584, lol seriously!
Posted by Origin05, Sun Jul-22-07 09:50 PM

I was wondering that myself..
DID HERMIONE find her parents? I may need to write JK on this one
53585, of course she did.
Posted by unity, Mon Jul-23-07 09:57 AM
she's the brightest witch of her age.

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53586, they didn't want to be free
Posted by unity, Mon Jul-23-07 09:56 AM
because they had been conditioned to think that way. perhaps a change in attitude from the wizarding world would have changed their attitudes about themselves? regardless, i just wonder in general about if/how things changed between wizards and other magical creatures and between wizards and muggles.

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53587, maybe they got work experience credits....im sayin
Posted by LonelyOnly, Wed Jul-25-07 09:19 AM
n/m
53588, Well, Hogwarts wasn't Hogwarts at the time, was it?
Posted by Melanism, Mon Jul-23-07 12:20 PM
I'd like to think they went back or were honorarily graduated.

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53589, JKR explains some things SWIPE
Posted by Skyezgrrl, Tue Jul-31-07 02:53 AM
I read a brief portion of the questions and yes harry bacame an Auror.

mugglenet is the shyte

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53590, Is anyone else thrilled...
Posted by Melanism, Sun Jul-22-07 08:00 PM
...that Ron and Hermione lived?
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53591, *nods head*
Posted by bshelly, Sun Jul-22-07 08:04 PM
the mega happy ending worked for me.
53592, There were so many times...
Posted by Melanism, Sun Jul-22-07 08:23 PM
...that I thought Hermione died like when they escaped the Ministry or when they escaped the Malfoys that by the time Voldemort died, I was so relived that she made it.
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53593, yeah but I was sick she killed Fred.
Posted by earthqueen, Sun Jul-22-07 08:36 PM
53594, That was the hardest death for me..
Posted by Origin05, Sun Jul-22-07 08:49 PM

I just KNEW the twins would live..

What about Percy.. wasn't that a shocker he came back!?
Especially after that scene in the lift w/ his father
53595, me too. I just knew they'd be ok.
Posted by earthqueen, Sun Jul-22-07 08:53 PM
I figured Percy couldn't be that MUCH of a pompus ass. I'm glad he returned and made up with the fam esp with two of his brothers gone.
53596, made me warm inside...
Posted by Origin05, Sun Jul-22-07 08:59 PM

lol
and Fred.. R.I.P. In another week-- that'll be in my sig lol
53597, sad to say, i wish it had been percy
Posted by unity, Sun Jul-22-07 09:00 PM
instead of fred. like if he had finally come back to the family and died protecting one of them. that would have been more fitting than the way fred died.

but at least he went out laughing...

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53598, yeah I would've rather had Percy in Fred's place. the lesson
Posted by earthqueen, Sun Jul-22-07 09:11 PM
in her doing it the way she did though was forgiveness. Cuz he could have bit it instead of Bill too...
53599, This is true.
Posted by Origin05, Sun Jul-22-07 09:16 PM

I was a little shocked at how both sons died so abruptly. It was unsettling
53600, wait...did i miss something or am i delirious from all the reading
Posted by bayoubyyou, Sun Jul-22-07 10:37 PM
but bill got killed too?
53601, no that was my bad(this is earthqueen btw) Bill lived
Posted by wray, Mon Jul-23-07 09:36 AM
there's a list on wikipedia...
53602, thank you! they were killin me with no spoilers
Posted by earthqueen, Sun Jul-22-07 08:34 PM
I don't even know where to start
53603, Did anyone else lose a teensy bit of respect for 4 Dumbledore?
Posted by earthqueen, Sun Jul-22-07 09:55 PM
it just seems he put harry and himself and everyone else in danger trying to prove himself?
53604, nah.. it really was for the greater good..
Posted by Origin05, Sun Jul-22-07 10:09 PM

I wasn't liking Dumbledor much at all in this book.. the Kings Cross chapter clarified alot.
Dumbledor was human.. but in the end he did what he had to do to defeat Voldemort
53605, nah, it all had to be done
Posted by bshelly, Mon Jul-23-07 11:50 AM
i mean, voldemort had to go down, and dumbledore picked the best plan to do it. he put snape and harry in harm's way, but they both accepted their role.
53606, just finished. it was great
Posted by sweet ruffian, Mon Jul-23-07 12:13 AM
:)

moments that made me tear up: kreacher's story, dobby's death, and fred's death

luna and neville are the greatest non-sidekick sidekicks ever.


there was one part that didn't make sense to me. why didn't harry ever try to talk to dumbledore's portrait in the headmaster's office? he could have asked him about the items from the will. granted, it may have been difficult, but didn't they spend almost a year just wandering around?


plus, somebody on here was on point about dumbledore asking snape to kill him. kudos.



53607, I adore Kreacher now..
Posted by Origin05, Mon Jul-23-07 12:26 AM

I always felt bad for the little guy.
Did you think that Regulus might have ditched Voldemort because of his treatment of Kreacher?
53608, yeah, i could see that
Posted by sweet ruffian, Mon Jul-23-07 11:41 AM
>
>I always felt bad for the little guy.
>Did you think that Regulus might have ditched Voldemort
>because of his treatment of Kreacher?
>

it was sooo cute how he turned completely around. i wonder what happened to him when the death eater's finally got access to the house.
53609, Kreacher was in the battle...
Posted by dunk, Tue Jul-24-07 02:35 AM
with Regullus. he survived and helped them out so he's all good.
53610, RE: just finished. it was great
Posted by Damali, Mon Jul-23-07 10:31 PM

>plus, somebody on here was on point about dumbledore asking
>snape to kill him. kudos.

that was me!!! :)

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53611, this movie is gonna be wild
Posted by homeslice21, Mon Jul-23-07 01:36 AM
she couldn't have ended it better i think... it was essentially nonstop intense, a fitting ending...

i couldn't believe she murked fred though...or dobby, he was the shit... lupin and tonks both too was sad... i was gonna be pissed if the last encounter harry ever had with ginny he didn't even speak to her and just dismissed her in the room of requirement....

overall it was brilliant though, i started reading 30 mins after the british open finished and with an hour and a half interruption to eat read it straight through in 9 hours...


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53612, RE: THE OFFICIAL DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER DISCUSSION POST
Posted by Cudjoes_Tree, Mon Jul-23-07 08:05 AM
this book is not for kid's...just how many people or goning to die in the first chapters *LOL*

53613, Snape is gangster but he's working for the good guys
Posted by Cudjoes_Tree, Mon Jul-23-07 08:08 AM
And a certain grey wizard will rise from the dead....

that's my feeling in my gut but who knows
53614, RE: Snape is gangster but he's working for the good guys
Posted by Wahday, Mon Jul-23-07 08:20 AM
the only problem I had with the book was after all the plot points regarding wands, after Hermoine claimed she couldn't use Bellatrix' wand, once she got to Gringott's and Hogwards, she was her normal self. Everyone else couldn't use properly Wands that were not rightfully theirs(either by choice or through taking), so why didn't it bother Hermoine?

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53615, They explained why Hermonie had problems using the wand
Posted by SienaBlaze, Tue Jul-24-07 11:21 AM
She didn't take Bellatrix's wand by force. Once you over power the witch/wizard you take over their wand. When Hermonie broke Harry's wand and he tried using hers it didn't work because it still recognized Hermonie as its master.

She became Hermonie again in Gringots because they were hit with water. I forget the name of it but its purpose to wash away all enchanments or curses. This is one of the things the goblins put into Gringots to prevent it from being robbed. What I don't understand is why the goblin that helped them break in didn't know that.



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53616, he knew, but they only turn it on when they suspect a break-in
Posted by JBoogs, Tue Jul-24-07 11:39 AM

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53617, That was why I thought my bootleg copy was fake...
Posted by lovelyone80, Mon Jul-23-07 08:17 AM
I was like "aint no way all these folks dying" but it was right.
53618, very very interesting point
Posted by sweet ruffian, Mon Jul-23-07 11:44 AM
>this book is not for kid's...just how many people or goning
>to die in the first chapters *LOL*

i read the book IT (by stephen king) on summer when i was eleven and it was so rediculously scary. i had nightmares for the rest of the summer.

this book did not seem like it was for kids, especially the bathilda chapter where the snake comes out her neck and her body crumples to the ground. :/
53619, yes it is. you underestimate kids
Posted by bshelly, Mon Jul-23-07 11:48 AM
you got the best lesson possible--if you're willing to sacrifice, good can triumph over evil. kids can handle death.
53620, if you were in the previous posts, you'll recognize game
Posted by Invisiblist, Mon Jul-23-07 09:29 AM
that's right, peoples. I called that Kreacher shit from jump. Mostly.

Also, Harry being a horcrux.

And Snape being a good guy was never a question. Been riding for that, too.
53621, Dumbledore was straight nasty w/ Snape
Posted by BLACK_ADAM, Mon Jul-23-07 09:31 AM
Those flashbacks/memories of Snape painted a picture of an entirely different Dumbledore


“Dying is the day that you live for.”
53622, he reminded me of Professor X
Posted by Solarus, Mon Jul-30-07 07:43 PM
or at least how MArvel has been retconning past deeds of Professor X. The benevolent teacher becomes a more brooding and self-serving strategist with the "best intentions in mind.
53623, I wonder if your memory can "skew"???....
Posted by BLACK_ADAM, Thu Aug-02-07 12:58 PM
....coz' maybe that's how Snape PERCEIVED Dumbledore's tone with him.... Dumbledore may actually have been less harsh than Snape remembers him being...

In the end though it appears that Harry got the gist of the Snape as a good guy thing.


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53624, NY MAG: Harry Potter: The Complete Obituaries (SWIPE)
Posted by Melanism, Mon Jul-23-07 10:57 AM
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/07/harry_potter_the_death_list.html#more

Harry Potter: The Complete Obituaries

From our worldwide correspondents, we bring you Harry Potter Fauxbits in Brief, a complete compendium of the last year's death reports on the Wizarding News Wire. Who died in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows? Good or evil, human, animal, or elf: We've got 'em all, after the jump.

Um, spoilers, obviously.

Hedwig Potter, a snowy owl approximately ten years in age, was killed in July 1997 by an Avada Kedavra curse that narrowly missed her owner, Harry Potter, while he was escaping from his childhood home. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the Hogwarts Owl Liberation Society.

Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody, former Auror, professor at Hogwarts, and member of the Order of the Phoenix, was killed by Voldemort in July 1997 while attempting to aid Harry Potter in his escape from his childhood home. Moody, thanks to whom it was said that half the Death Eaters in Azkaban were imprisoned, sacrificed much in the battle against evil, including a leg, an eye, a chunk of his nose, and eventually his life. His magical eye was buried in the forest after some time spent as a peephole in Dolores Umbridge's office.

Rufus Scrimgeour, Minister of Magic, was killed on August 1, 1997, in the uprising that led to Death Eaters taking over the Ministry of Magic. Though tortured, he did not give up Harry Potter's whereabouts, despite Potter being an irritating prat who never lifted a finger to help the Ministry.

Peter Pettigrew, named "Wormtail" by his school friends — against whom, unremarkably, he later turned — died in the spring of 1998 via strangulation by his own silver hand. Though rumors abound that he was killed for showing mercy to an enemy of Voldemort, the Malfoy family — in whose home Pettigrew died — told authorities that Pettigrew's death was a clear case of autoerotic asphyxiation gone awry. "He always was a creepy one," said Draco Malfoy, 18.

Dobby, a Free Elf, was killed while helping Harry Potter and his comrades escape from the home of Lucius Malfoy. Struck in the heart by a knife thrown by Bellatrix Lestrange, he was known for his collection of odd socks and his devotion to Potter, who freed him from service. He is buried outside Shell Cottage.

Fred Weasley, co-owner of a popular Hogsmeade joke shop, Weasley's Wizard Wheezes, was killed during the Battle of Hogwarts when a section of the castle in which he was standing was blown up by Death Eater forces. Weasley, who along with his twin brother, George, was considered a practical joker par excellence, dropped out of Hogwarts in his seventh year. The Weasley family has asked that attendees to Fred's memorial service be very careful where they sit and what they eat, as Weasley's will stipulates that whoopee cushions and Puking Pastilles be liberally distributed around the church.

Two members of the Order of the Phoenix, Nymphadora Tonks, a former Auror, and her husband Remus Lupin, a werewolf, were killed of unknown causes during the Battle of Hogwarts. Tonks was a Metamorphagus, born to Andromeda Black — sister of well-known Death Eater Bellatrix Lestrange — and a Muggle, Ted Tonks. Lupin, once a professor at Hogwarts, was bitten by werewolf Fenrir Greyback. Recently wed, Tonks and Lupin had a son, Teddy, 3 months old, who will be raised by his grandmother.

Severus Snape, Headmaster of Hogwarts and longtime Potions Master and Head of Slytherin House, was killed by Voldemort in June 1998 in an attempt to acquire the power of the Elder Wand. Feared by many students at Hogwarts as a strict and cruel teacher, and hated by many for his killing of Albus Dumbledore and Death Eater activities, Snape was, in actuality, a spy for the Order of the Phoenix, who at great personal risk misled Voldemort and helped to engineer his downfall. He did kill Dumbledore, but only on the great wizard's orders. Donations may be made to the Greasy Git Image Rehabilitation Society, c/o Weasley's Wizard Wheezes, Hogsmeade.

Harry Potter, 17, a symbol of the resistance to Voldemort and a skilled wizard in his own right, was killed during the Battle of Hogwarts when he walked, unarmed, into Voldemort's camp. Hit by Voldemort's Killing Curse, Potter immediately dropped to the ground. It is unknown why Potter REDACT REDACT REDACT ALL BUREAUS REDACT POTTER IS ALIVE

Bellatrix Lestrange, a Death Eater and escaped prisoner from Azkaban, was killed in the Battle of Hogwarts by Molly Weasley, a witch fighting for the Order of the Phoenix. Famous for her cruelty in torturing the Aurors Frank and Alice Longbottom, Lestrange also killed her cousin, Sirius Black, and was responsible for countless other deaths. She is survived by her three beloved guinea pigs, Fuzzball, Mr. Fluffykins, and The Dark Lord Rules All.

Voldemort, born Tom Riddle, also known as the Dark Lord, died at the close of the Battle of Hogwarts, killed by the rebounding of his own Avada Kedavra curse in a duel with Harry Potter. Known for his elegant sense of style, his ambition, and his murderous cruelty, Voldemort on two separate occasions almost took over the Wizarding world before being stopped by Harry Potter. That which Voldemort did not value, he took no trouble to comprehend. Of house-elves and children's tales, of love, loyalty, and innocence, Voldemort knew and understood nothing. He was 62.
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53625, A few that were forgotten:
Posted by Michi, Tue Jul-24-07 02:53 PM
Charity Burbage - Muggle Studies teacher

Colin Creevey - creepy Harry Potter fan/stalker

Crabbe - one of Draco's thugs
53626, The original Order of the Phoenix
Posted by calij81, Mon Jul-23-07 06:26 PM
How many members of the original Order of the Phoenix survived? It seems like she killed off every older member and many of the older wizards and characters but left the majority of the young ones alive. I know it is tough to kill off any character in a story but it seems like she did kind of takes the easier, more "happily ever after" route by keeping all the young main character alive.
53627, a bunch.
Posted by unity, Mon Jul-23-07 06:31 PM
this seems pretty accurate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Phoenix_%28organisation%29

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53628, funny thing from reading that list:
Posted by bshelly, Mon Jul-23-07 06:48 PM
harry, hermione and ron were never in the order.
53629, lol @ Rowling making dick jokes
Posted by JBoogs, Mon Jul-23-07 08:33 PM
"Wands are only as powerful as the wizards who use them. Some wizards just like to boast that theirs are bigger and better than other people's."

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53630, i thought i was th eonly one who noticed
Posted by dunk, Tue Jul-24-07 02:51 AM
i remember noting some other references as well...

she's like "fuck it, it's the last one. let me make some dick jokes"
53631, yeah there were a couple
Posted by JBoogs, Tue Jul-24-07 11:37 AM
when they were measuring the wands lol

8 inches
11 inches

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53632, Those aren't even the most blatant
Posted by JungleSouljah, Tue Jul-24-07 11:48 AM
How about when Monseiur Delacour was talking about the enchanted razor. Something about "if you're not specific enough, you might lose more hair than you wanted".
53633, i'm happy with the way it all ended...
Posted by Latina212, Mon Jul-23-07 09:44 PM
i feel like she advanced the story at the end so that no one would try to pick up where harry left off

the princes tale was my favorite chapter

i had faith in snape!
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53634, I have only one question:
Posted by Damali, Mon Jul-23-07 10:35 PM
If that goblin had ran off with Gryfinndor's sword, how the hell was Neville able to pull it out of the sorting hat?

the book was fan-fucking-tastic btw..

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53635, Same way Harry pulled it out in Book 2
Posted by JungleSouljah, Mon Jul-23-07 10:51 PM
Help will always be available to those true to Hogwarts or whatever it was that Albus said.
53636, only a true Gryffindor can use the sword
Posted by SienaBlaze, Tue Jul-24-07 08:05 AM
The Gryffindor student has to show bravery in the face of danger. That is what happened in book 2 when Harry was able to pull it out of the hat to kill the snake.

Neville was being cursed and still tried to defend himself. That is why he was able to pull the sword out of the hat



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53637, right...i keep forgetting about that. awesome
Posted by Damali, Tue Jul-24-07 08:13 AM

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53638, What an amazing ending to a fantastic series
Posted by JungleSouljah, Mon Jul-23-07 10:41 PM
It was everything I wanted and even more. Rarely has any film, album, or book lived up to the hype. Deathly Hallows did.

I loved the way that JK incorporated all of the past books, especially the first three. Clearly old girl had thought this whole thing out a long, long, long ass time in advance. And I loved that everyone played an integral role at some point during the book. The Snape (Prince's Tale) and Dumbledore (King's Cross) chapters were excellent. I had several oh shit moments during The Prince's Tale... at one point I thought Petunia was gonna turn out to be a witch. That would have been wild.

I can't wait to see this on film. It had better be 3.5 hours of pure heat and they better put a killer director behind it. Yates is gonna have to really step it up on Half Blood Prince.

At some point I'm going to properly read through all 7 again, most likely in the ensuing months before the film drops.

Man I wish I could start all over again from scratch. It was an experience unlike anything else.
53639, man, they beter make this movie amazingly good
Posted by dunk, Tue Jul-24-07 02:45 AM

>
>I can't wait to see this on film. It had better be 3.5 hours
>of pure heat and they better put a killer director behind it.
>Yates is gonna have to really step it up on Half Blood Prince.

It has to be that long or two separate movies. the tons of information i here can be left on the cutting room floor or ignored. this movie has to have a powerful, extraordinary director making it and all the actors better step their game up for it, esp. Daniel Ratcliffe cause he's has to express about every emotion you can think of in this movie.
53640, Jeez, my eyes hurt. Like, I literally can barely read what I'm typing
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Jul-24-07 01:02 AM
I can't believe I plowed through that sucker in three days. Well, worth it though.

My thoughts: as a whole it was very, very, very good. It certainly ended very well. And it had great sequences spread all through it: the first Great Escape, the Ministry break-in, killing the locket, the Malfoy Manor tussle, Gringots, the protracted battle of Hogwarts. I'll say whole-heartedly that everything from, say, them listening to the Potter-Watch broadcast to the very end was absolute gold. Flawless.

However,,, there were some flaws. There was about 100 pages in there of straight misery. And it was often boring misery. I mean, I understood it's purpose, but there ere literally MONTHS where the three of them didn't do anything. And, truthfully, I didn't care about the "Dumbledore's hidden past" subplot. I couldn't really get interested in the Deathly Hallows. There was enough good stuff around i, Rowling writing about collectively five or six months of wasted time got stupid. And the other thing that sort of bugged me was that every time someone did something, it reminded Harry of something else the happened in the six previous books, even Lupin pacing. It got ridiculous.

But, it the end, I loved a lot more than I disliked. "The Prince's Tale" was brilliant. All the action scenes were brilliat. And the "19 years later," which could have been really corny, worked perfectly. I'm pretty damn satisfied.
53641, you've hit some of my concerns
Posted by bshelly, Tue Jul-24-07 10:37 AM

>However,,, there were some flaws. There was about 100 pages in
>there of straight misery. And it was often boring misery. I
>mean, I understood it's purpose, but there ere literally
>MONTHS where the three of them didn't do anything.

Nah, I liked it. It established a sense of hopelessness that really made you see what a monumental task they were asking three 17 year olds to take down.

And,
>truthfully, I didn't care about the "Dumbledore's hidden past"
>subplot.

I was concerened about this for about 24 hours, but I came around on it. One, I thought it was cool to get the last big Dark Wizard involved. I always wanted to know the story of how Dumbledore beat Grindlewald, and this got to it. More importantly, there's a whole them of redemption that runs through this book. Kreacher gets redeemed (in a sense). Snape gets redeemed through his love for Lily. Even the Malfoys get redeemed by their love for one another. So it's cool to see that even the paragon of virtue throughout the series needed to be redeemed at one time. Plus, I mean, it's Dumbledore, one of my favorite characters ever. How can I not fuck with anything that makes him more complex and gives you back story?

I couldn't really get interested in the Deathly
>Hallows.

The Deathly Hallows are the one thing that concern me the most. I've really struggled with why she needed to introduce another set of objects when Harry was already going after the Horocruxes. In the end, after a lot of thought, I think it works. It shows Harry's innate goodness to go on the quest that will kill Voldemort (Horocruxes) rather than the one that may let him live. The Elder Wand and Voldemort's reasons for going after it are true to the story--he would absolutely want the ABomb after what has happened between him and Harry. She needed a plot device to explain the Dumbeldore/Snape killing plot, and the ring was as good as any. Plus, the Hallows led to some cool shit.

I do think the Hallows could have been explained a lot better. Some things she didn't explain very well, imo, were Harry's indecision about which set of objects to go after, the reasons he chose not to, why Dumbledore didn't tell him, etc. These things are all in there, but she didn't explain them particularly well. Plus, I'm still not sure if it was significant that Harry was the master of the Hallows going into the final battle or not.

So, on the Hallows, I'd say they could have been written better, with a more full explanation, but if you think it through they do work.
53642, RE: Jeez, my eyes hurt. Like, I literally can barely read what I'm typing
Posted by jane eyre, Sun Jul-29-07 01:59 PM
>However,,, there were some flaws. There was about 100 pages in
>there of straight misery.

i agree. it might be more than 100? the lag you're talking about didn't make any sense to me. the longer it went on, the more i got frustrated.

the prince's tale is a perfect example of my harry potter reading experience. snape is one of my favorite characters and i was really excited to find out about snape. but when i read the prince's tale all i could think was: pacing!? i didn't want to find everything out about snape in straight narrative flashbacks, especially because he didn't get a lot of face time in the book. plus, it felt like instead of bringing closure to a story, rowling introduced a new story (with an ending) towards the big finale of the book. that drove me up the wall even though it was interesting.

i didn't care for the dumbldedore backstory, either. i liked the deathly hollows angle, but i'm so so about how it was handled. i liked how the issue of truth and belief was a theme in this book, too. one of my favorite parts of the book was how hermione didn't believe in the deathly hallows, but believed that dumbledore loved harry. and also how harry kept wanting to know the truth. i liked how the situation was resolved between harry and ron during the whole gryfynndor/horocrux chapter. someone already mentioned it, but i loved when harry called voldy riddle.

the same stuff that's always bothered me about rowling's marathon books was in deathly hollows, but as usual, even though i felt annoyed at different points, i loved the book. flaws and all, it was everything i wanted it to be and more.

53643, I nominate Peter Jackson to direct Deathly Hallows
Posted by Melanism, Tue Jul-24-07 07:20 AM
53644, I second that
Posted by Damali, Tue Jul-24-07 08:11 AM
It's definitely gotta be an epic film. Their journeys throughout the countryside of England while they were trying to figure out their plan reminded me alot of Frodo Baggins' (and friends) journey.
53645, when she was describing the giants, i thought the same thing.
Posted by poetx, Sun Jul-29-07 04:09 PM
pj would be perfect for this.

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53646, How Many of You Did This?
Posted by Damali, Tue Jul-24-07 08:18 AM
When Ron told Harry that Voldemort's name was cursed and that's how they got caught so quickly the first time, i immediately turned back to those pages to see when exactly it had been said. I can't be the only one...

I love when books make you do that

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53647, I did that too
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Jul-24-07 08:22 AM
Also, during the "Prince's Tale" chapter, I turned back to the chapter to see how the first page of the letter ended.
53648, i wanted to do that
Posted by Damali, Tue Jul-24-07 08:37 AM
but that was so close to the end of the book that i just didn't have the patience to go back...

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53649, yeah I took note during the second read
Posted by earthqueen, Tue Jul-24-07 10:39 AM
53650, She set us up for a Prequel
Posted by SienaBlaze, Tue Jul-24-07 09:40 AM
We have to know Lily's story now. Her friendship with Snape. Petunia wanting to go to Hogwarts. Snape begging Voldermort to save her life. She will write another book




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53651, if she does a prequel, i want Dumbledore v. Grindlewald
Posted by bshelly, Tue Jul-24-07 10:37 AM
53652, YEP!
Posted by JBoogs, Tue Jul-24-07 11:42 AM

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53653, I don't feel I really need to know anything more about Snape now
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Jul-24-07 10:46 AM
They've explained his motivation and why he did everything. I sort of feel the same way about Lilly and James. Though I would be interested in something about the first incarnation of the Order of the Phoenix. Which I guess is sort of what you had in mind...

Truthfully, if you want to do a prequel, Imma agree with Shells that Dumbledore vs. Grindewald is the winner.
53654, Your right
Posted by SienaBlaze, Tue Jul-24-07 11:00 AM
I completely forgot about that. Dumbledores story would make a great prequel



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53655, Part of me wishes for more Potter and Hogwarts related tales
Posted by JungleSouljah, Tue Jul-24-07 11:06 AM
I was so depressed after I finished it. It such a fulfilling end that when it was over, I had nothing to fill that void. Literary tour de force's like that only happen every 50 years if we're lucky. So I immediately wanted sequels/prequels/whatevers.

But now... I'm satisfied with the way it ended. There are a couple things I'd like answered and fleshed out, but if I had to choose, I'd choose to end it properly as it has already been ended.
53656, if she does a Prequel it would be cool to be on the 4 heads of the houses
Posted by LonelyOnly, Wed Jul-25-07 09:37 AM
53657, trueeee
Posted by JBoogs, Wed Jul-25-07 10:38 AM

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Posted by Invisiblist, Tue Jul-24-07 10:12 AM
my previous predictions

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=298906&mesg_id=298906#298960

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=298906&mesg_id=298906#298963

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=298906&mesg_id=298906#299087

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=297660&mesg_id=297660&listing_type=search#298964

This I was about 50% on.
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=300515&mesg_id=300515&listing_type=search

53659, yes, you deserve your props...
Posted by dunk, Tue Jul-24-07 02:13 PM
you were amazingly on point..i remember all these predictions/theories you made...
53660, that was the best.
Posted by south_jerz, Tue Jul-24-07 12:30 PM
im sad its over.

i wish shed told us what happened to luna though.
i like luna
53661, So what is everyone going to read to fill the Potter gap?
Posted by JungleSouljah, Tue Jul-24-07 02:32 PM
As I said in the previous thread before it was locked, I'm gonna fish Gawande's "Better" and move on to either a Christopher Moore novel I bought awhile back or Me Talk Pretty One Day.
53662, i don't think the post should have been locked.
Posted by unity, Tue Jul-24-07 02:39 PM
it is not a deathly hallows discussion like this post.

people got haterade on a steady iv drip up in ptp.

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53663, yeah, you-know-who was hating very much in there..lol
Posted by dunk, Tue Jul-24-07 02:56 PM
but i plan on finishing the book, "Waiting Until the Midnight Hour" which is about the history of black power in America.

It's written by Peniel E. Joseph.

so far, it's pretty interesting. it was what i was reading before Potter came out.
53664, Re: Christopher Moore
Posted by God Loves Ugly, Tue Jul-24-07 03:05 PM
I just want to say I am absolutely infatuated with his novels now.

I've only read Fluke, The Stupidest Angel, and halfway through Lamb with A Dirty Job lined up next.

Which novel do you have?

Also, my brother is currently reading Me Talk Pretty One Day.
53665, I honestly don't recall the title
Posted by JungleSouljah, Tue Jul-24-07 03:34 PM
It's the one about death. There's a skeleton in a baby carriage on the cover of the paperback. I picked it up on a whim, more for my fiancee than myself, but I think I'm gonna read it before she gets the chance.
53666, That would be his latest one, A Dirty Job
Posted by God Loves Ugly, Tue Jul-24-07 03:47 PM
I haven't read that one yet, but if it is in the same style as his other novels - it'll be a treat. His books are generally hilarious with a touch of drama, fantastic dialog, and some outright bizarre situations.

He really reminds me of Douglas Adams a lot.

I'm currently reading Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal, and it's just as great as the others.
53667, i really like Sedaris so i recommend Me Talk Pretty One Day
Posted by Steve O Tron v2, Tue Jul-24-07 04:24 PM
i have the audiobook version too read by Sedaris himself and it's hilarious.

>As I said in the previous thread before it was locked, I'm
>gonna fish Gawande's "Better" and move on to either a
>Christopher Moore novel I bought awhile back or Me Talk Pretty
>One Day.
53668, J.K Rowling: I'm fitna write a Harry Potter Encylopedia (swipe)
Posted by ZooTown74, Tue Jul-24-07 05:05 PM
from msnbc.com:

>Stop your sobbing! More Potter to come

J.K. Rowling tells TODAY she will write an 'encyclopedia' on characters

By Jen Brown

TODAYShow.com contributor

Updated: 12:31 p.m. PT July 24, 2007

Spoiler alert: This story reveals some key plot points in the final Harry Potter book. So if you've haven't finished the book, J.K. Rowling asks that you not read this story.

For the millions in the midst of the seven stages of mourning for the end of the Harry Potter era, take heart.

In her first tell-all interview since the release of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows,” J.K. Rowling told TODAY’s Meredith Vieira she "probably will" publish a Potter encyclopedia, promising many more details about her beloved characters and the fate of the wizarding world beyond the few clues provided in the seventh book’s epilogue.

“I suppose I have (started) because the raw material is all in my notes,” Rowling said.

The encyclopedia would include back stories of characters she has already written but had to cut for the sake of narrative arc (“I've said before that Dean Thomas had a much more interesting history than ever appeared in the books”), as well as details about the characters who survive “Deathly Hallows,” characters who continue to live on in Rowling’s mind in a clearly defined magical world.

Hogwarts, for example, has a new headmaster (“McGonagall was really getting on a bit”), and Rowling said she can see Harry going back to give the "odd talk" on Defense Against the Dark Arts. That class, by the way, is now led by a permanent professor since Voldemort’s death broke the jinx which didn’t allow a teacher to remain in the position for more than a year.

Rowling offered up these details freely to Vieira and the 14 fans who asked her questions at Edinburgh Castle in Scotland on Tuesday. In fact, now that she is now longer burdened with guarding the secrets of book seven, Rowling seemed to delight in discussing her plot choices and clearing up the mysteries that have previously surrounded the books.


The character Rowling couldn’t bear to kill

One of the big stories that has been floating among fans for over a year is that one character gets a reprieve from death, while two others Rowling didn’t intend to kill end up dying in “Deathly Hallows.”

“Mr. Weasley, he was the person who got a reprieve,” Rowling said. “When I sketched out the books, Mr. Weasley was due to die in Book Five.”

Instead, another father dies in the end of Book Seven.

Though Rowling couldn’t bear to kill off Arthur Weasley, that didn't mean the other deaths in the book were easy to take. Given the blood bath that is “Deathly Hallows,” the writing of it was bound to be an emotional roller coaster.

But nothing in the entire process of the series was more difficult than writing the scene when Harry, accompanied by his deceased lost loved ones – including his parents James and Lily and his godfather Sirius — walks into the forest with the intent of sacrificing his life in the name of defeating Voldemort, Rowling said, adding it is her favorite passage in all seven books.

“I didn't cry as I was writing (that chapter), but when I finished writing, I had enormous explosion of emotion and I cried and cried and cried,” Rowling said.

“That was partly because of the content — and partly because it had been planned for so long and been roughed out for so long. And to write the definitive version felt like a — a huge climax.”

“The Deathly Hallows” is the climax to the last 17 years of Rowling’s life, a time when she has gone from a single, divorced mother living on public assistance to a happily married mother of three and one richest women in the world.

It’s now time to sit back for a bit and enjoy the life that Harry has given her, Rowling said. And, when she’s ready, there’s always that encyclopedia waiting in the wings.

“I’m not going to do it tomorrow because I’d really like a break,” Rowling said, laughing. “So you may be waiting.”


TODAY will air the exclusive interview with J.K. Rowling on Thursday and Friday. Portions are scheduled to air Sunday on “Dateline NBC.”
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Ice Cube tried to take over the station
His ass is in jail RIGHT NOW...
53669, MO CRACK!
Posted by JBoogs, Tue Jul-24-07 07:44 PM

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53670, yep, I'll buy it n/m
Posted by 2nd2Nun, Wed Jul-25-07 01:24 PM
53671, Okay, so who DIDN'T appear in the final book
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Jul-24-07 08:13 PM
Damn near every character in all the six previous books made an appearance of some kind in Book 7, usually getting called out by name. Who didn't make the cut?

There's a few I can think of:

Cornelius Fudge (mentioned but made no appearance)
Moaning Myrtle
Marietta Edgecombe (Cho Chang's snitching friend)
Creavey's younger brother (can't remember his name)
Winky the House-Elf
The Mer-People in the lake (which is a shame, because they could have added something to the final scene)

Anyone else?
53672, I don't think we saw Professor Trelawney
Posted by Damali, Wed Jul-25-07 08:24 AM
and i was kinda hoping for Cedric Diggory's ghost

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53673, Nah, she was there.
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jul-25-07 08:46 AM
She's in the battle at Hogwarts. She smashes a crystal ball over Fenrir Greyback's head, knocking him out.

However, Professor Binns, the extremely dull ghost teacher from the first few books, isn't around.
53674, I'm at work thinking to myself
Posted by SienaBlaze, Wed Jul-25-07 09:29 AM
that was a cold blooded thing to do killing Dobby. You wrong Rowlings


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53675, Yeah, that one sucked, but it was "necessary"
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Jul-25-07 09:36 AM
It was used to get Harry stop fucking around about the Hallows and get him re-focussed.

The one's I found unnecessary were Hedwig and Creavey. Especially Creavey. What did he ever do to anyone?
53676, can't believe its over
Posted by eternalist 25, Wed Jul-25-07 10:02 AM
it was a fitting ending, and a great read all the way through. repeating what everyone has been sayin-learning about the history of dumbledore and snape was terrific. fred, dobby, and hedwig's deaths were tough to take.

i really thought she was gonna kill off ginny when they told her to wait by herself during the battle, but thankfully that didnt happen.

one the highlights for me was when george lost his ear, and fred busted him for the bad joke right when he came to. classic fred and george. rip fred.

53677, also
Posted by eternalist 25, Wed Jul-25-07 10:12 AM
harry calling voldy "riddle" before their last duel was awesome
53678, i would have been HEATED if she killed off ginny
Posted by homeslice21, Wed Jul-25-07 10:15 AM

<---- better than Jason Campbell.
53679, I would have had a fit
Posted by SienaBlaze, Wed Jul-25-07 10:33 AM
if she killed Ginny

Because I had it in my head since the last book they were going to end up together

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53680, im still mad about that Epilogue
Posted by JBoogs, Wed Jul-25-07 10:39 AM
it was awful

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53681, I loved it
Posted by SienaBlaze, Wed Jul-25-07 11:17 AM
I thought it was cute ;-)



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53682, Really? I thought it brought about nice closure
Posted by JungleSouljah, Wed Jul-25-07 01:27 PM
I'm curious as to why people dislike the epilogue.

Although it seems like that Dark Wizard stuff usually goes down every generation or two. You had Grindewald before Voldemort. You'd think in the intervening 19 years somebody else would have shown up.

Although maybe that's what Rowling is setting up, but I hope not.
53683, hopefully, the 'encyclopedia' will give the characters more closure
Posted by earthqueen, Wed Jul-25-07 01:45 PM
53684, yeah, she basically HAD to do an encyclopedia
Posted by JBoogs, Wed Jul-25-07 04:17 PM
that epilogue was just ugh

ugh

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53685, RE: im still mad about that Epilogue
Posted by Michi, Wed Jul-25-07 02:43 PM
I just wanted to find out what happened to Luna Lovegood in those 19 years. Did she die from a magical experiment gone wrong or something?
53686, i read the book in six hours last night
Posted by punkhopjazcee, Wed Jul-25-07 02:48 PM
The Prince's Tale was the most intriguing part of the book and shocked me completely, Death Eater Snape was in love w/ Harry's mother, a mudblood.

Rowling should publish Rita Skeeter's book on Dumbledore.

I feel really sorry for Cho, cause she loved Harry and she didn't end up w/ him, i wanna find out what happened to her.

I wanna find out if George was ever the same w/o Fred i expect he wasn't.
53687, My shallow thoughts
Posted by Michi, Wed Jul-25-07 04:41 PM
I have been reading some scenes over again.

I love the scene with Xenophilius Lovegood and the destruction of the Horcruxes by Ron and Neville.

I thought when Remus Lupin showed up at Grimmauld Place that he was an imposter or under an Imperio Curse because his behavior seemed uncharacteristic for him to me. Why would be say that he'd be willing to finish Dumbledore's missions to destroy the Horcruxes? He had a wife and unborn kid to look after at home. But I did get a shotgun wedding feel from his marriage to Tonks. It was so...quick?

What really happened to Ariana Dumbledore? One theory I heard was that she was raped and that's why she wouldn't or couldn't control her magic.

Speaking of sex, I thought that was what Ginny was going to give Harry for his birthday, I was like :./ This is a kid's book. Also, I wondered if Voldemort and Bellatrix ever did it because she was really obsessed with him.

I felt sorry for Snape. His worst memory from Book 6 wasn't about James Potter bullying him, but that he called Lily a Mudblood and she never trusted him again.

I wanted Draco. Okay, well, maybe not die since he was an innocent kid, but at least maimed or horribly scarred. Y'know something to remind him of this ordeal.

Also, I liked the continuing theme of abandoned boys, whether emotionally or physically, such as Neville, Harry, Albus, Severus or Tom Riddle.
53688, RE: My shallow thoughts
Posted by JungleSouljah, Wed Jul-25-07 09:24 PM

>I thought when Remus Lupin showed up at Grimmauld Place that
>he was an imposter or under an Imperio Curse because his
>behavior seemed uncharacteristic for him to me. Why would be
>say that he'd be willing to finish Dumbledore's missions to
>destroy the Horcruxes? He had a wife and unborn kid to look
>after at home. But I did get a shotgun wedding feel from his
>marriage to Tonks. It was so...quick?

I agree, but it was pretty well explained by the fact that he felt guilty about Tonks getting shunned like he was. He was doing the "woe is me" self guilt trip thing. Which is pretty unusual for Lupin. It made sense for where he was emotionally.

>
>What really happened to Ariana Dumbledore? One theory I heard
>was that she was raped and that's why she wouldn't or couldn't
>control her magic.

She got the shit beat out of her for being "different" and acting funny. Did she really have to get raped?

>Speaking of sex, I thought that was what Ginny was going to
>give Harry for his birthday, I was like :./ This is a kid's
>book. Also, I wondered if Voldemort and Bellatrix ever did it
>because she was really obsessed with him.

I REALLY thought Ginny might give it up. I think that's what she was trying to imply to her older readers. There was more sexual innuendo in this one than the other 6 combined. And I'm not talking about wand sizes.

>I felt sorry for Snape. His worst memory from Book 6 wasn't
>about James Potter bullying him, but that he called Lily a
>Mudblood and she never trusted him again.

As bshelly said earlier, almost every guy can remember a moment like that. I have one really good one that will always be fresh in my mind. I didn't want to marry the girl, but I felt like an idiot anyway.

>I wanted Draco. Okay, well, maybe not die since he was an
>innocent kid, but at least maimed or horribly scarred. Y'know
>something to remind him of this ordeal.

I don't know. I think Draco looking like a scared jackass and then getting punched in the face by Ron while they were under the Cloak was good enough. I hope in the movie he has a bloody fuckin mouth.

>Also, I liked the continuing theme of abandoned boys, whether
>emotionally or physically, such as Neville, Harry, Albus,
>Severus or Tom Riddle.

Yeah it sort of makes you wonder about her childhood. Or maybe the childhood of any close friends of hers. It's an exceptionally strong theme throughout the books.
53689, RE: My shallow thoughts
Posted by homeslice21, Wed Jul-25-07 11:37 PM
>
>>Speaking of sex, I thought that was what Ginny was going to
>>give Harry for his birthday, I was like :./ This is a kid's
>>book. Also, I wondered if Voldemort and Bellatrix ever did
>it
>>because she was really obsessed with him.
>
>I REALLY thought Ginny might give it up. I think that's what
>she was trying to imply to her older readers. There was more
>sexual innuendo in this one than the other 6 combined. And I'm
>not talking about wand sizes.
>

yeah for a split second before i remembered it was a kid's book, i was like 'oh shit she wants to beat!'... probably a good thing - ron might have been just a bit more angry than he was...

speaking of which, i was a little pissed the way both ron and harry acted in that scene - i mean yeah its his sister and all, but if he knows harry at all he should KNOW that harry is completely in love with ginny...and plus it was ginny that kissed harry to begin with...and harry should have put up more of a fight than that...



<---- better than Jason Campbell.
53690, RE: My shallow thoughts
Posted by Michi, Thu Jul-26-07 01:13 PM

>>What really happened to Ariana Dumbledore? One theory I
>heard
>>was that she was raped and that's why she wouldn't or
>couldn't
>>control her magic.
>
>She got the shit beat out of her for being "different" and
>acting funny. Did she really have to get raped?
>

No, I just thought that J.K. was just alluding to it without stating it outright because it was a kids' book. I thought I was too thick to notice it, but great that she wasn't implying that.
53691, I guess you could read that into it
Posted by JungleSouljah, Fri Jul-27-07 03:37 PM
That's no more of a stretch than people (myself included) thinking that she was alluding to Harry and Ginny getting it on as his Birthday present.
53692, Question
Posted by SienaBlaze, Thu Jul-26-07 11:54 PM
what did they do with Umbridge

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53693, maybe i missed it, but i just have one question........
Posted by DubSpt, Fri Jul-27-07 12:50 PM
How the hell did Draco get the Elder Wand?

I understand Harry winning it from him and blah blah blah, but I just don't remember there ever being any rationale as to how Draco got it, where he got it, etc. etc.
53694, in The Half Blood Prince
Posted by earthqueen, Fri Jul-27-07 02:40 PM
He was supposed to kill Dumbledore, he ended up disarming him, becoming the wand's true master, but snape killed him.

Voldy killed snape thinking that Dumbledore still had power over the wand when he died, but the wand had already 'chosen' Draco.
53695, right, so Draco never had it
Posted by JBoogs, Fri Jul-27-07 02:55 PM
and Harry never really got it until Voldy's curse rebounded on him in that last battle

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53696, Harry never PHYSICALLY had it, but it was his in spirit already
Posted by JungleSouljah, Fri Jul-27-07 03:40 PM
Harry defeated Draco in a duel at the Malfoy Manor. Even though Draco didn't have the wand at the time, by virtue of defeating Draco, the Elder Wand moved to Harry. So when Voldemort tried to use the Elder Wand against it's true master, it was having none of it and the curse backfired and Voldy ate it.
53697, hmm.... i dont like the sound of that.
Posted by DubSpt, Sat Jul-28-07 03:11 PM
so are you saying that there is no literal Elder Wand, just whoever beats who last had now "has it".


i dont know how i feel about that.
53698, RE: hmm.... i dont like the sound of that.
Posted by nando242, Sun Jul-29-07 12:33 AM
there IS an elder wand, dumbledore's wand; which he took from the other dark wizard (dont feel like looking up his name to spell it correctly). but, heres how it goes:

1. draco disarms dumbledore of his wand, meaning it automatically belongs to draco, because disarming means defeating, and the wand changes ownership after an L.

2. right after dumbledore is disarmed, hes killed by snape, but the transfer of ownership is automatic, meaning, that it still belongs to draco. snape would have to defeat draco to claim ownership.

3. dumbledore is buried with the actual wand, but ownership belongs to draco, he just doesnt know it.

4. at malfoy manor, harry takes dracos wand (the one that he bought at the wand shop before starting hogwarts), meaning draco was defeated. this means that he not only physically has dracos wand, it also means that ownership of the elder wand has been passed onto harry (even though its still buried with dumbledore).

5. Riddle takes the wand (physically) from dumbledores grave, but does not know that ownership belongs to harry.

6. Riddle kills snape thinking that ownership will move to him, since he assumed snape was the owner since he killed dumbledore, but after reviewing point 1, we know this isnt true.

7. Riddle tries to kill harry, but the wand realizes that harry is the true owner and thus, backfires.

-hope that helps
53699, good synopsis.
Posted by sweet ruffian, Sun Jul-29-07 03:54 PM
>there IS an elder wand, dumbledore's wand; which he took from
>the other dark wizard (dont feel like looking up his name to
>spell it correctly). but, heres how it goes:
>
>1. draco disarms dumbledore of his wand, meaning it
>automatically belongs to draco, because disarming means
>defeating, and the wand changes ownership after an L.
>
>2. right after dumbledore is disarmed, hes killed by snape,
>but the transfer of ownership is automatic, meaning, that it
>still belongs to draco. snape would have to defeat draco to
>claim ownership.
>
>3. dumbledore is buried with the actual wand, but ownership
>belongs to draco, he just doesnt know it.
>
>4. at malfoy manor, harry takes dracos wand (the one that he
>bought at the wand shop before starting hogwarts), meaning
>draco was defeated. this means that he not only physically has
>dracos wand, it also means that ownership of the elder wand
>has been passed onto harry (even though its still buried with
>dumbledore).
>
>5. Riddle takes the wand (physically) from dumbledores grave,
>but does not know that ownership belongs to harry.
>
>6. Riddle kills snape thinking that ownership will move to
>him, since he assumed snape was the owner since he killed
>dumbledore, but after reviewing point 1, we know this isnt
>true.
>
>7. Riddle tries to kill harry, but the wand realizes that
>harry is the true owner and thus, backfires.
>
>-hope that helps
53700, ^
Posted by JBoogs, Sun Jul-29-07 04:41 PM

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53701, just. finished.... WOW. this was everything i could have wanted
Posted by poetx, Sat Jul-28-07 01:35 PM
out of the last book. so many themes in there for discussion. (*starts reading through poast*)


peace & blessings,

x.

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53702, *****Clarification from the HP Dateline Special w/J.K******
Posted by earthqueen, Mon Jul-30-07 12:16 PM
1. Teddy Lupin
Was raised by Tonk's mother, although Harry played a role in his life as he was Teddy's Godfather.

2.What they did for a living.
Ron and Harry went on to work as Chief Aurors(told ya so)Despite their age, there were able to give a priceless amount of information concerning the Dark Arts and therefore helped to revamp the whole department. Hermione worked in Magical Law Enforcement.

3. The hardest character death to her was Dumbledore

4. She knew from the beginning that Snape was a good guy. She said he was a very complicated character(which we witnessed).

5. Harry Potter is not modeled after anyone she knows personally, however the name Potter is from the next door neighbors she had growing up.

6. Fred was killed because in essence George was the kinder, less abrasive twin.

7. She cried after writing the scene in which Harry walks back into the forrest.

8. Daniel Radcliff only knew that he had a 'death scene' in the book, not the ultimate ending..

that's all I remember off top...
53703, I just read a Yahoo online interview
Posted by Solarus, Mon Jul-30-07 07:25 PM
and Rowling says that Ron went on to run the Joke store business with George. However it isn't as if he couldn't have been both an Auror and helped run the business.
53704, I knew I wasn't buggin out: here's what she said on dateline(Swipe)
Posted by earthqueen, Tue Jul-31-07 01:07 PM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/

Exclusive: Finished ‘Potter’? Rowling tells what happens next
Exclusive: Author gives details on events after the book’s final epilogue
By Jen Brown
TODAYShow.com contributor
Updated: 7:38 a.m. ET July 26, 2007

Spoiler alert: This story reveals some key plot points in the final Harry Potter book. So if you've haven't finished the book, J.K. Rowling asks that you not read this story.
If you found the epilogue of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” rather vague, then J.K. Rowling achieved her goal.

The author was shooting for “nebulous,” something “poetic.” She wanted the readers to feel as if they were looking at Platform 9¾ through the mist, unable to make out exactly who was there and who was not.

“I do, of course, have that information for you, should you require it,” she told TODAY’s Meredith Vieira rather coyly in her first interview since fans got their hands on the final book.
Ummm … yes, please!

Rowling said her original epilogue was “a lot more detailed,” including the name of every child born to the Weasley clan in the past 19 years. (Victoire, who was snogging Teddy — Lupin and Tonks’ son — is Bill and Fleur’s eldest.)

“But it didn’t work very well as a piece of writing,” Rowling said. “It felt very much that I had crowbarred in every bit of information I could … In a novel you have to resist the urge to tell everything.”

But now that the seventh and final novel is in the hands of her adoring public, Rowling no longer has to hold back any information about Harry Potter from her fans. And when 14 fans crowded around her in Edinburgh Castle in Scotland earlier this week as part of TODAY’s interview, Rowling was more than willing to share her thoughts about what Harry and his friends are up to now.

Harry, Ron and Hermione
We know that Harry marries Ginny and has three kids, essentially, as Rowling explains, creating the family and the peace and calm he never had as a child.

As for his occupation, Harry, along with Ron, is working at the Auror Department at the Ministry of Magic. After all these years, Harry is now the department head.

“Harry and Ron utterly revolutionized the Auror Department,” Rowling said. “They are now the experts. It doesn’t matter how old they are or what else they’ve done.”

Meanwhile, Hermione, Ron’s wife, is “pretty high up” in the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, despite laughing at the idea of becoming a lawyer in “Deathly Hallows.”

“I would imagine that her brainpower and her knowledge of how the Dark Arts operate would really give her a sound grounding,” Rowling said.

Harry, Ron and Hermione don’t join the same Ministry of Magic they had been at odds with for years; they revolutionize it and the ministry evolves into a “really good place to be.”

“They made a new world,” Rowling said.

The wizarding naturalist
Luna Lovegood, the eccentric Ravenclaw who was fascinated with Crumple-Horned Snorkacks and Umgubular Slashkilters, continues to march to the beat of her own drum.

“I think that Luna is now traveling the world looking for various mad creatures,” Rowling said. “She’s a naturalist, whatever the wizarding equivalent of that is.”

Luna comes to see the truth about her father, eventually acknowledging there are some creatures that don’t exist.

“But I do think that she’s so open-minded and just an incredible person that she probably would be uncovering things that no one’s ever seen before,” Rowling said.

Luna and Neville Longbottom?
It’s possible Luna has also found love with another member of the D.A.

When she was first asked about the possibility of Luna hooking up with Neville Longbottom several years ago, Rowling’s response was “Definitely not.” But as time passed and she watched her characters mature, Rowling started to “feel a bit of a pull” between the unlikely pair.

Ultimately, Rowling left the question of their relationship open at the end of the book because doing otherwise “felt too neat.”

Mr. and Mrs. Longbottom: “The damage is done.”

There is no chance, however, that Neville’s parents, who were tortured into madness by Bellatrix Lestrange, ever left St. Mungo’s Hospital for Magical Maladies.

“I know people really wanted some hope for that, and I can quite see why because, in a way, what happens to Neville’s parents is even worse than what happened to Harry’s parents,” Rowling said. “The damage that is done, in some cases with very dark magic, is done permanently.”

Rowling said Neville finds happiness in his grandmother’s acceptance of him as a gifted wizard and as the new herbology professor at Hogwarts.

The fate of Hogwarts
Nineteen years after the Battle of Hogwarts, the school for witchcraft and wizardry is led by an entirely new headmaster (“McGonagall was really getting on a bit”) as well as a new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. That position is now as safe as the other teaching posts at Hogwarts, since Voldemort’s death broke the jinx that kept a Defense Against the Dark Arts professor from remaining for more than a year.

While Rowling didn’t clarify whether Harry, Ron and Hermione ever return to school to finish their seventh year, she did say she could see Harry popping up every now and again to give the “odd talk” on Defense Against the Dark Arts.
53705, more answers from j.k. rowling (yahoo swipe)
Posted by Meenameen, Mon Jul-30-07 03:33 PM
from yahoo news (gives more insight on the specifics of what the crew does for a living 19 years later ):

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070730/ap_en_ot/potter_s_afterlife

Rowling answers fans final questions

By LINDSAY TOLER, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 11 minutes ago

Just because J.K. Rowling has stopped writing about Harry Potter and his friends and foes doesn't mean she has stopped thinking about them.

She told fans Monday what she thinks happened to many of the book's characters after the final installment.

In a 90-minute live Web chat, she fielded some of the approximately 120,000 questions submitted by devotees. It was her first public comment since "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" — the last book in the series — debuted on July 21.

Rowling said she was elated to share with fans the secrets she'd been harboring since she conjured up the idea for the boy wizard during a train journey across England in 1990.

"It is great to be able to do this at last," she said. "I've looked forward to it for so long!"

"Deathly Hallows" sold over 10 million copies in its first weekend. All seven books in the blockbuster series have sold a combined 335 million copies worldwide.

In the novel — which centers on Harry's journey to kill Lord Voldemort, the most powerful dark wizard of all time — the young wizard learns of three powerful magical objects called the Deathly Hallows that, when combined, will make their owner the Master of Death, meaning he or she accepts mortality without fear.

Rowling said in the online chat the hallows were in part inspired by "The Pardoner's Tale," one of Chaucer's "Canterbury Tales" about greed and death.

Rowling shared with fans, many of whom said they'd read the final book several times in the last week, where she imagines their favorite characters went after the series' conclusion.

SPOILER ALERT: Those who do not wish to know what happens to the characters after the book ends should stop reading here.

Rowling said the world was a sunnier, happier place after the seventh book and the death of Voldemort.

Harry Potter, who always voiced a desire to become an Auror, or someone who fights dark wizards, was named head of the Auror Department under the new wizarding government headed by his friend and ally, Kingsley Shacklebolt.

His wife, Ginny Weasley, stuck with her athletic career, playing for the Holyhead Harpies, the all-female Quidditch team. Eventually, Ginny left the team to raise their three children — James, Albus and Lily — while writing as the senior Quidditch correspondent for the wizarding newspaper, the Daily Prophet.

Harry's best friend Ron Weasley joined his brother, George, as a partner at their successful joke shop, Weasley's Wizard Wheezes. Hermione Granger, Ron's wife and the third person of the series' dark wizard fighting trio, furthered the rights of subjugated creatures, such as house elves, in the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures before joining the magical law enforcement squad. The couple had two children — Rose and Hugo.

Luna Lovegood, Harry's airily distracted friend with a love for imaginary animals who joins the fight against Voldemort in the Order of the Phoenix, becomes a famous wizarding naturalist who eventually marries the grandson of Newt Scamander, author of "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them."

And what Muggle, or non-wizard, song would have been played at the funeral of Albus Dumbledore, the most brilliant and talented wizard the world had ever known?

"Surely 'I Did It My Way' by Frank Sinatra," Rowling told her fans, referring to the song "My Way," written by Paul Anka but popularized by Sinatra, among other singers.

As the chat wrapped up, Rowling thanked readers for their loyalty to the series.

"What can I say? Thank you so much for sticking with me, and with Harry, for so long. You have made this an incredible journey for Harry's author."


....just lurking....(for like, uh, 7 years)...
53706, RE: more answers from j.k. rowling (yahoo swipe)
Posted by unity, Mon Jul-30-07 04:07 PM
>Hermione Granger, Ron's wife and the third person of
>the series' dark wizard fighting trio, furthered the rights of
>subjugated creatures, such as house elves, in the Department
>for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures

i knew it!

>Luna Lovegood, Harry's airily distracted friend with a love
>for imaginary animals who joins the fight against Voldemort in
>the Order of the Phoenix, becomes a famous wizarding
>naturalist who eventually marries the grandson of Newt
>Scamander, author of "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find
>Them."

this made me laugh. what the heck is a wizarding naturalist? lol.

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53707, see she gave some what different answers last night...
Posted by earthqueen, Mon Jul-30-07 04:13 PM
hmmmmm
53708, DVS's Analysis (a.k.a. I didn't give ONE FUCK about Hedgwig)
Posted by DVS, Mon Jul-30-07 11:29 PM
First off...this was one of the rawest Potter books to date. Rowling came out the gate firing....and she rarely let up off the gas.

Dope shit...

-The background story on Petunia via Snape, as well as Snape's connection with Lily. Some of the Potter heads suspected that Dumbledore asked Snape to kill him...but it was good to hear the whole story.

-Gringotts breakout. That shit was bananas. Even though it only lasted a chapter...from the Imperio curse to the near-sighted dragon to the Burning Rabbit Gold multiplying and shit to the final escape...I was riveted.

-The Howgarts battle was seriously on some Bravehart shit. Spiders and Giants and Death Eaters and Centaurs and shit. I loved it.

-Kreacher's turnaround a.k.a. Dobby Deux...it was nice how they addressed it.

-Neville is the MAN!! I was remarking how Neville was showing some balls in Order of the Phoenix...but he just hasn't disappointed. Once he got some confidence fucking around with Herbology...he just really rounded out.

Wack/Eh shit...

-I didn't give a fuck about Hedgwig dying. Call me insensitive...but I just didn't develop no feelings for the owl. Fuck that owl.

-Albus Severus Snape? Booooooooooooo....

All in all, very dope read, hard to believe its over.

53709, Great Finale
Posted by Zion3Lion, Tue Jul-31-07 01:51 AM
although I only read the Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows, I can see why people got so caught up in Harry Potter and although I don't agree with it being the greatest series of our time(The movies definitely gave it an exposure and staying power that i don't think it would have had on it's own) J.K. Rowling definitely knows how to craft a story and get you hooked on the plot as well as the characters. Thoroughly enjoyed the Dumbledore and Snape backstories. The Battle Royale at the end was incredible. I thought the Harry dying and coming back to life thing was kinda lame to me and the whole Harry, Ron, Hermoine in the woods on the run was kinda boring but at the same time interesting, especially with the whole Harry/Ron falling out sequence. over-all it was an excellent read and while i'm not a Harry Potter FAN-atic, as there are other novels/series that appealed to me more, this is definitely one of teh best.
53710, J.K. Rowling Web Chat Transcript (Long but fills in most if not all blanks)
Posted by Melanism, Tue Jul-31-07 08:45 AM
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2007/7/30/j-k-rowling-web-chat-transcript

J.K. Rowling Web Chat Transcript
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
Posted by: Melissa
July 30, 2007, 09:09 AM

J.K. Rowling has just answered a whole onslaught of post-DH question in a Web chat on Bloomsbury.com. We have reordered the questions so that it reads top-down; answers are here about the characters’ future lives, the state of the wizarding world, the other two title potentials for Deathly Hallows, and much, much, more. More than 120,000 questions were sent in; and as it’s the first time J.K. Rowling has been able to answer questions so freely in a fan chat, there are spoilers and details GALORE. Read on! But here is some…

SPOILER SPACE

HAVE YOU READ DH?

IF NOT YOU’RE GOING TO BE SPOILED

Transcript coming:

J.K. Rowling: I’m here and I can’t wait! Bring on the questions!

Leaky Cauldron: What, if anything, did the wizarding world learn, and how did society change, as a direct result of the war with voldemort? (i.E., not as a result of harry, ron and hermione’s future careers.)

J.K. Rowling: The Ministry of Magic was de-corrupted, and with Kingsley at the helm the discrimination that was always latent there was eradicated.

J.K. Rowling: Harry, Ron, Hermione, Ginny et al would of course play a significant part in the re-building of wizarding society through their future careers.

Ryan Love: From your fans at thesnitch.Co.Uk. Weren’t we supposed to see ginny display powerful magical abilities in “deathly hallows” and find out why it’s significant that she’s the seventh child? Was her main role in the books only to be harry’s love interest?

J.K. Rowling: Hi Ryan! Well, I think Ginny demonstrated powerful magic in the final battle, and that for a sixteen year old witch she acquitted herself pretty well. I don’t remember ever saying that her ‘seventh child’ status would prove particularly

J.K. Rowling: important in the last book, though – are you sure I said that?!

J.K. Rowling: No, the Malfoys weaseled their way out of trouble (again) due to the fact that they colluded (albeit out of self-interest) with Harry at the end of the battle. Georgina: Did lucius malfoy, and all the other escaped death eaters, go back to azkaban

Elisabeth: In the chapter of kings cross, are they behind the veil or in some world between the real world and the veil?

J.K. Rowling: You can make up your own mind on this, but I think that Harry entered a kind of limbo between life and death.

Renee: From reading about the original owners of the deathly hallows, the peverell brothers, i’m wondering if harry and voldermort are distantly related voldermorts grandfather ended up with the resurrection stone ring?

J.K. Rowling: Yes, Harry and Voldemort are distantly related through the Peverells.

J.K. Rowling: Of course, nearly all wizarding families are related if you trace them back through the centuries. As was made clear in ‘Deathly hallows’, Peverell blood would run through many wizarding families.

Fomy: What did you feel when you finally wrote the kiss, awaited so much by the fans, of ron and hermione

J.K. Rowling: I loved writing it, and I loved the fact that Hermione took the initiative!

J.K. Rowling: Ron had finally got SPEW and earned himself a snog!

Angela Morrissey: Why is it that albus dumbledore can see harry under his invisibility cloak at certain moments? (during the series is the cloak only infallible to those who do not own a deathly hallow).

J.K. Rowling: Dumbledore, who could perform magic without needing to say the incantation aloud, was using ‘homenum revelio’ -

J.K. Rowling: – the human-presence-revealing spell Hermione makes use of in Deathly Hallows.

Jamie Lewis: What ever happened to winky

J.K. Rowling: She’s still at Hogwarts, and she was one of the oncoming house-elves who attacked the Death Eaters in the final battle.

Katieleigh: Does hermione still continue to do work with spew and is life any better for house elves!

J.K. Rowling: Hermione began her post-Hogwarts career at the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures

J.K. Rowling: where she was instrumental in greatly improving life for house-elves and their ilk. She then moved (despite her jibe to Scrimgeour) to the Dept. of Magical Law Enforcement

J.K. Rowling: where she was a progressive voice who ensured the eradication of oppressive, pro-pureblood laws.

Tineke: Did teddy grow up living with his grandmother?

J.K. Rowling: Yes, Teddy was raised by Andromeda.

J.K. Rowling: However, unlike Neville, who was also raised by his grandmother

J.K. Rowling: Teddy had his godfather, Harry, and all his father’s friends in the Order, to visit and stay with.

Blodeuwedd: Hi jk, first of all thank you for all the books I have enjoyed each and every one of them could you tell us what professions harry, hermione, ron, ginny and luna go on to have did the trio do their final year at school and take their newts who became hea

J.K. Rowling: Harry did so (just because Voldemort was gone, it didn’t mean that there would not be other Dark witches and wizards in the coming years).

J.K. Rowling: Ron joined George at Weasleys’ Wizarding Wheezes, which became an enormous money-spinner..

J.K. Rowling: After a few years as a celebrated player for the Holyhead Harpies, Ginny retired to have her family and to become the Senior Quidditch correspondent at the Daily Prophet!

Camille: What or who is peeves exactly, is he linked with the blood barons story?

J.K. Rowling: Thank you! I’ve already answered about Hermione. Kingsley became permanent Minister for Magic, and naturally he wanted Harry to head up his new Auror department.

Camille: What or who is peeves exactly, is he linked with the blood barons story?

J.K. Rowling: No, Peeves is not linked to the bloody Baron’s story.

J.K. Rowling: He is a spirit of chaos that entered the building long ago and has proved impossible to eradicate!

Jessie: Were the deathly hallows based on any realworld myth or faerie tale

J.K. Rowling: Perhaps ‘the Pardoner’s Tale’, by Chaucer.

Alicepie: What happend to luna, did she get married who to?

J.K. Rowling: She ended up marrying (rather later than Harry & co) a fellow naturalist and grandson of the great Newt Scamander (Rolf)!

Rosi: What does in essence divided mean?

J.K. Rowling: Dumbledore suspected that the snake’s essence was divided – that it contained part of Voldemort’s soul, and that was why it was so very adept at doing his bidding.

J.K. Rowling: This also explained why Harry, the last and unintended Horcrux, could see so clearly through the snake’s eyes, just as he regularly sees through Voldemort’s.

J.K. Rowling: Dumbledore is thinking aloud here, edging towards the truth with the help of the Pensieve.

Superhans: What was duldeys worst memory?

J.K. Rowling: I think that when Dudley was attacked by the Dementors he saw himself, for the first time, as he really was. This was an extremely painful, but ultimately salutory lesson, and began the transformation in him.

Superhans: What was duldeys worst memory?

J.K. Rowling: I think that when Dudley was attacked by the Dementors he saw himself, for the first time, as he really was. This was an extremely painful, but ultimately salutory lesson, and began the transformation in him.

Casey Kunze: Who killed remus and tonks I think if I knew this, I would get some closure over the very sad, but understandable, death of two of my favorite characters

J.K. Rowling: I’m so sorry! I met a couple on launch night who had come dressed as Lupin and Tonks, and I felt dreadfully guilty as I signed their books!

J.K. Rowling: Remus was killed by Dolohov and Tonks by Bellatrix.

Laura Trego: Was the absence of snapes portrait in the headmasters office in the last scene innocent or deliberate

J.K. Rowling: It was deliberate. Snape had effectively abandoned his post before dying, so he had not merited inclusion in these august circles.

J.K. Rowling: However, I like to think that Harry would be instrumental in ensuring that Snape’s portrait would appear there in due course.

Stephanie: If the wand chooses the wizard, then why do wands work when passed down from father to son eg neville had his fathers wand

J.K. Rowling: As established by Ollivander, a wizard can use almost any wand, it is simply that a wand that chooses him/her will work best. Where there is a family connection, a wand will work a little better than a wand chosen at random, I think.

James Farrell: How did umbridge manage to conjure a patronus while wearing the locket when harry wasnt able to

J.K. Rowling: Because she is a very nasty piece of work. She has an affinity for this horrible object, which would help rather than hinder her.

Tineke: What happened to percy did he return to his job at the ministry

J.K. Rowling: Yes, the new improved Percy ended up as a high-ranking official under Kingsley.

Su: How did neville get the gryfindor sword, is there a link to the hat

J.K. Rowling: Yes, there is very definitely a link to the hat!

J.K. Rowling: Neville, most worthy Gryffindor, asked for help just as Harry did in the Chamber of secrets, and Gryffindor’s sword was transported into Gryffindor’s old hat

J.K. Rowling: – the Sorting Hat was Gryffindor’s initially, as you know.

J.K. Rowling: Griphook was wrong – Gryffindor did not ‘steal’ the sword, not unless you are a goblin fanatic and believe that all goblin-made objects really belong to the maker.

Steph: Will azkaban still use dementors?

J.K. Rowling: No, definitely not. Kingsley would see to that. The use of Dementors was always a mark of the underlying corruption of the Ministry, as Dumbledore constantly maintained.

Smallbutpowerful: On behalf of all harry potter fans who consider themselves to be hufflepuffs could you please describe the hufflepuff common room as it is the only common room harry hasn’t visited

J.K. Rowling: The Hufflepuff common room is accessed through a portrait near the kitchens, as I am sure you have deduced.

J.K. Rowling: Sorry – I should say ‘painting’ rather than portrait, because it is a still-life.

J.K. Rowling: It is a very cosy and welcoming place, as dissimilar as possible from Snape’s dungeon. Lots of yellow hangings, and fat armchairs, and little underground tunnels leading to the dormitories, all of which have perfectly round doors, like barrel tops.

Camille: How is george getting along without his twin

J.K. Rowling: Well, I don’t think that George would ever get over losing Fred, which makes me feel so sad. However, he names his first child and son Fred, and he goes on to have a very successful career, helped by good old Ron.

Jessica Lynn: Did hagrid have to be able to see thestrals in order to train them if so, whose death did hagrid witness

J.K. Rowling: Hagrid has seen many deaths in quite a long life, so yes, he can see Thestrals.

Allie: What did dumbledore truly see in the mirror of erised

J.K. Rowling: He saw his family alive, whole and happy – Ariana, Percival and Kendra all returned to him, and Aberforth reconciled to him.

Snapedinhalf: You promised that someone will do magic late in life in book 7. I’ve now read it three times but cant work out who it might have been! Please help!!

J.K. Rowling: I’m sorry about this, but I changed my mind!

J.K. Rowling: My very earliest plan for the story involved somebody managing to get to Hogwarts when they had never done magic before, but I had changed my mind by the time I’d written the third book.

Christiana: How did voldemort get his wand back after he was in was exile

J.K. Rowling: Wormtail, desperate to curry favour, salvaged it from the place it had fallen and carried it to him. I admit that would have been a bit of a feat for a rat, but they are highly intelligent creatures!

Amanda: Hiya, ive grown up with harry and the gang, did any of the characters change in any unexpected ways as they grew up

J.K. Rowling: They all became pretty much what I expected/planned them to become.

J.K. Rowling: Of course they changed as I wrote, but nobody surprised me very much!

Ravleen: How much does the fact that voldemort was conceived under a love potion have to do with his nonability to understand love is it more symbolic

J.K. Rowling: It was a symbolic way of showing that he came from a loveless union – but of course, everything would have changed if Merope had survived and raised him herself and loved him.

J.K. Rowling: The enchantment under which Tom Riddle fathered Voldemort is important because it shows coercion, and there can’t be many more prejudicial ways to enter the world than as the result of such a union.

Lechicaneuronline: Do you think snape is a hero

J.K. Rowling: Yes, I do; though a very flawed hero. An anti-hero, perhaps. He is not a particularly likeable man in many ways. He remains rather cruel, a bully, riddled with bitterness and insecurity – and yet he loved, and showed loyalty to that love

J.K. Rowling: and, ultimately, laid down his life because of it. That’s pretty heroic!

James Farrell: Voldemort never told anyone about his horcruxes, so how on earth did regulus black discover his secret

J.K. Rowling: Horcrux magic was not Voldemort’s own invention; as is established in the story, other wizards had done it, though never gone as far as to make six.

J.K. Rowling: Voldemort dropped oblique hints; in his arrogance, he did not believe anybody would be clever enough to understand them.

J.K. Rowling: (He does so in the graveyard of Little Hangleton, in front of Harry). He did this before Regulus and Regulus guessed, correctly, what it was that made Voldemort so convinced he could not die.

Jaclyn: Did lily ever have feelings back for snape

J.K. Rowling: Yes. She might even have grown to love him romantically (she certainly loved him as a friend) if he had not loved Dark Magic so much, and been drawn to such loathesome people and acts.

Boggo: Would you choose the hallow that is the cloak, like youre supposed to, and would you be tempted to use the others

J.K. Rowling: My temptation would be Harry’s, ie, the Stone. But I believe, as does Harry ultimately, that the greatest wisdom is in accepting that we must all die, and moving on.

Cornersoul: So what happens to all the dementors where will they go will they be destroyed if so, how

J.K. Rowling: You cannot destroy Dementors, though you can limit their numbers if you eradicate the conditions in which they multiply, ie, despair and degradation. As I’ve already said, though,

J.K. Rowling: the Ministry no longer used them to torment its opponents.

Michael: Why didnt fawkes come back to help harry I would have thought that since harry was so loyal to dumbledore, fawkes would have been harrys new pet

J.K. Rowling: Something had to leave the school for good when Dumbledore died, and I decided that would be Fawkes. Dumbledore was a very great and irreplacable man, and the loss of Fawkes (and the fact that he was ‘non-transferable’!) expresses this symbolically

Roseweasley: Why was colin creavey still a student at hogwarts when he was muggleborn surely he would have been locked up and interogated, not allowed back to school therefore, he shouldnt have died

J.K. Rowling: Colin wasn’t a student. He sneaked back with the rest of the DA, along with Fred, George and the rest. He ought not to have stayed behind when McGonagall told him to leave, but alas – he did.

Delailah: How does dumbledore understand parseltongue?

J.K. Rowling: Dumbledore understood Mermish, Gobbledegook and Parseltongue. The man was brilliant.

Jessie: Will lockhart ever recover?

J.K. Rowling: No. Nor would I want him to. He’s happy where he is, and I’m happier without him!

Annie: Does the wizarding world now know that snape was dumbledores man, or do they still think he did a bunk

J.K. Rowling: Harry would ensure that Snape’s heroism was known.

J.K. Rowling: Of course, that would not stop Rita Skeeter writing ‘Snape: Scoundrel or Saint?’

Vio91: Is teddy lupin a werewolf

J.K. Rowling: No, he’s a Metamorphmagus like his mother

Nippy23: We see socks a lot throughout the series, such as dobby’s love for them and dumbledore’s claim to see them in the mirror of erised, what’s the reason behind all the socks

J.K. Rowling: Nothing deep and significant, I’m afraid. They’re just a comedy item.

Lady Bella: Whose murders did voldemor use to create each of the horcruxes

J.K. Rowling: The diary – Moaning Myrtle. The cup – Hepzibah Smith, the previous owner. The locket – a Muggle tramp. Nagini – Bertha Jorkins (Voldemort could use a wand once he regained a rudimentary body, as long as the victim was subdued).

J.K. Rowling: The diadem – an Albanian peasant. The ring – Tom Riddle snr.

Sampotterish: Why did dumbledore want ron to keep his deluminator

J.K. Rowling: Because he knew that Ron might need a little more guidance than the other two.

J.K. Rowling: Dumbledore understood Ron’s importance in the trio. He wasn’t the most skilled, or the most intelligent, but he held them together; his humour and his good heart were essential.

Carol: Do dementors have souls

J.K. Rowling: No, that’s what makes them frightening!

Jess Mac: What was the third smell that hermione smelt in the amortentia potion in hbp (ie the particular essence of ron)

J.K. Rowling: I think it was his hair. Every individual has very distinctive-smelling hair, don’t you find?

Natalie: Are house divisions as prevalaent in harry’s children’s hogwarts as in the previous generations

J.K. Rowling: Slytherin has become diluted. It is no longer the pureblood bastion it once was. Nevertheless, its dark reputation lingers, hence Albus Potter’s fears.

Nithya: Lily detested mulciber,averyif snape really loved her,why didnt he sacrifice their company for her sake

J.K. Rowling: Well, that is Snape’s tragedy. Given his time over again he would not have become a Death Eater, but like many insecure, vulnerable people (like Wormtail) he craved membership of something big and powerful, something impressive.

J.K. Rowling: He wanted Lily and he wanted Mulciber too. He never really understood Lily’s aversion; he was so blinded by his attraction to the dark side he thought she would find him impressive if he became a real Death Eater.

Alborz: What does it mean to be the master of death

J.K. Rowling: As Dumbledore explains, the real master of Death accepts that he must die, and that there are much worse things in the world of the living.

J.K. Rowling: It is not about striving for immortality, but about accepting mortality.

Barbara: I was very disappointed to see harry use crucio and seem to enjoy it his failure to perform that kind of curse in the past has been a credit to his character why the change, and did harry later regret having enjoyed deliberately causing pain

J.K. Rowling: Harry is not, and never has been, a saint. Like Snape, he is flawed and mortal.

J.K. Rowling: Harry’s faults are primarily anger and occasional arrogance.

J.K. Rowling: On this occasion, he is very angry and acts accordingly. He is also in an extreme situation, and attempting to defend somebody very good against a violent and murderous opponent.

Nicole: What do you think is the funniest moment you have written in the series

J.K. Rowling: It sounds very vain to answer this! My favourite in this book is probably that line of Ron’s ‘really captures the scope and tragedy of the thing, doesn’t it?’

Courtney: What child did harry give the marauders map to if any

J.K. Rowling: I’ve got a feeling he didn’t give it to any of them, but that James sneaked it out of his father’s desk one day.

Karin: What did petunia wanted to say to hary at the end of the dursleys departing

J.K. Rowling: I think that for one moment she trembled on the verge of wishing Harry luck; that she almost acknowledged that her loathing of his world, and of him, was born out of jealousy.

J.K. Rowling: But she couldn’t do it; years of pretending that ‘normal’ was best had hardened her too much.

Leaky Cauldron: Please pose and answer the question you’d most like to address about the series! (a ha, turned it back on you.)

J.K. Rowling: Oooo, you’re tough.

J.K. Rowling: I must admit, I always wondered why nobody ever asked me what Dumbledore’s wand was made of!

J.K. Rowling: And I couldn’t say that, even when asked ‘what do you wish you’d been asked…’ because it would have sign-posted just how significant that wand would become!

Nora: Is auntie muriels tiara important

J.K. Rowling: No, sorry… except to illustrate what an old bat she is.

Nigel: Can harry speak parseltongue when he is no longer a horcrux?

J.K. Rowling: No, he loses the ability, and is very glad to do so.

Nikki: How did sirius twoway mirror end up with aberforth or is it another twoway mirror

J.K. Rowling: You see Aberforth meeting Mundungus in Hogsmeade. That was the occasion on which Dung, who had taken Sirius’s mirror from Grimmauld Place, sold it to Aberforth.

Tierney Roth: If moody got a magic eye, and wormtail got a magic hand, couldnt there be some way to form a magical ear, if only to cover up the hole and make george look more symmetrical

J.K. Rowling: Yes, he could wear a false ear (I’m starting to giggle at the thought. Perhaps he’s better off with the hole!)

Lucy: What is dumbledores boggart?

J.K. Rowling: The corpse of his sister

Pablo: What is toadface umbridge doing now

J.K. Rowling: Glad to see you like her as much as I do!

J.K. Rowling: She was arrested, interrogated and imprisoned for crimes against Muggleborns.

Tina: Do the muggles notice that there arent any weird things going on now that voldemorts gone

Tina: Do the muggles notice that there arent any weird things going on now that voldemorts gone

J.K. Rowling: Yes, the world seems a much sunnier place (literally – with the Dementors gone the weather gets better!)

J.K. Rowling: We are having a heavily Dementor-influenced summer here in the UK.

Katie Mosher: How exactly do muggleborns receive magical ability

J.K. Rowling: Muggle-borns will have a witch or wizard somewhere on their family tree, in some cases many, many generations back. The gene re-surfaces in some unexpected places.

Maggie: Is rita skeeter still reporting

J.K. Rowling: Naturally, what could stop Rita? I imagine she immediately dashed off a biography of Harry after he defeated Voldemort. One quarter truth to three quarters rubbish.

Maggie Keir: Was hermione able to find her parents and undo the memory damage

J.K. Rowling: Yes, she brought them home straight away.

Lola Victorpujebet: Was minerva in love with albus

J.K. Rowling: No! Not everybody falls in love with everybody else…

Rachel Nell: Jkr, thank you for such amazing books! I would like to know how come noone seemed to know that lily and snape were friends in school they were obviously meeting for chats, etc didnt james know their past

J.K. Rowling: Thank you for your thank you!

J.K. Rowling: Yes, it was known that they were friendly and then stopped being friends. Nothing more than that would be widely known.

J.K. Rowling: James always suspected Snape harboured deeper feelings for Lily, which was a factor in James’ behaviour to Snape.

Abbey: Will the chuddley cannons ever win the quidditch world cup

J.K. Rowling: Bless them, perhaps. But they’d need to replace the entire team and down several cauldrons of Felix Felicitas.

Hayleyhaha: Why did regulus have a change of heart

J.K. Rowling: He was not prepared for the reality of life as a Death Eater. It was Voldemort’s attempted murder of Kreacher that really turned him.

Stephval: Is scorpius as misguided as his father, or has draco improved and taught his child(ren) better

J.K. Rowling: Scorpius has a lot going against him, not least that name. However, I think Scorpius would be an improvement on his father, whom misfortune has sobered!



J.K. Rowling: Sorry, technical hitch – just answered a question before seeing it!

J.K. Rowling: I am clearly getting better at Legilimency.

Lona: Did draco and harry lose their animosity towards eachother when voldemort died

J.K. Rowling: Not really. There would be a kind of rapprochement, in that Harry knows Draco hated being a Death Eater, and would not have killed Dumbledore; similarly, Draco would feel a grudging gratitude towards Harry for saving his life.

J.K. Rowling: Real friendship would be out of the question, though. Too much had happened prior to the final battle.

Hannah: Why was snape so badly groomed

J.K. Rowling: Hmm. Good question. Poor eyesight? Did he look in the mirror and believe he was gorgeous as he was?

J.K. Rowling: I think it more likely that he valued other qualities in himself!

J.K. Rowling: I think not. I imagine that it was squashed into the ground by a centaur’s hoof as the centaurs dashed to the aid of the Hogwarts fighters, and thereafter became buried.

Adwait313: Has the jinx on the dada teaching post at hogwarts been lifted

J.K. Rowling: Yes, at last! Incidentally, I know some have asked about Quirrell with regard to this question.

J.K. Rowling: He was teaching at Hogwarts for more than a year, but NOT in the post of D.A.D.A. teacher. He was previously Muggle Studies professor.

Emily: What ever happened to aberforth

J.K. Rowling: He is still there, at the Hog’s Head, playing w

Lee: I recently purchsed nimbus twothousand it has a terrible knack of veering left is their anything I can do (wihout the use of a wand it was broken by a hippogriff) to repair it back to it original straight flying state

J.K. Rowling: Hm. I would advise a trip to Arkie Alderton’s Kwik-Repair Shop. Never attempt to mend a broom at home, the consequences can be disastrous.

Abjoppotter: Is narcissa malfoy really a death eater

J.K. Rowling: No, she never had the Dark Mark and was never a fully paid-up member. However, her views were identical to those of her husband until Voldemort planned the death of her son.

Emzzy: Did mr weasley ever get around to fixing sirius motorbike

J.K. Rowling: Of course, and it ended up in Harry’s possession.

Lulu: Do you think dumbledore was a little more fond of ron than either ron or harry believed

J.K. Rowling: Yes, I do. Through Harry’s account of Ron, and from reports of the professors who taught Ron, Dumbledore understood Ron better than Ron ever knew, and liked him, too.

Chelatina: Was firenze ever welcomed back into the herd

J.K. Rowling: Yes, the rest of the herd was forced to acknowledge that Firenze’s pro-human leanings were not shameful, but honourable.

Kristy: What was your favorite scene to write in deathly hallows?

J.K. Rowling: Chapter 34: The Forest Again.

Chely: James patronus is a stag and lilys a doe is that a coincidence?

J.K. Rowling: No, the Patronus often mutates to take the image of the love of one’s life (because they so often become the ‘happy thought’ that generates a Patronus).

Jon: Since voldemort was afraid of death, did he choose to be a ghost if so where does he haunt or is this not possible due to his horcruxes

J.K. Rowling: No, he is not a ghost. He is forced to exist in the stunted form we witnessed in King’s Cross.

Angela Morrissey: Were there seven horcruxes not six as dumbledore intimated to harry if so, does this mean that voldemort had an 8 part soul not a 7

J.K. Rowling: Yes, Voldemort accidentally broke his soul into eight parts, not seven.

Laura Trego: Did hermione really put a memory charm on her parents she says she did but then about 50 pages later tells ron shes never done a memory charm

J.K. Rowling: They are two different charms. She has not wiped her parents’ memories (as she later does to Dolohov and Rowle); she has bewitched them to make them believe that they are different people.

Maura: How come voldemort was no longer employing occlumency against harry, as he was in the 6th book

J.K. Rowling: He is losing control, and unable to prevent Harry seeing into his mind. The connection between them is never fully understood by Voldemort, who does not know that Harry is a Horcrux.

Gandalfxj9: Did krum ever find love

J.K. Rowling: Of course, though he had to go back to his native Bulgaria to do so.

Twinkletoes: Why did you feel that hedwigs death was necessary

J.K. Rowling: The loss of Hedwig represented a loss of innocence and security. She has been almost like a cuddly toy to Harry at times. Voldemort killing her marked the end of childhood. I’m sorry… I know that death upset a LOT of people!

Lecanard: Will we see harry and his friends having their own history on chocolate frogs cards

J.K. Rowling: Definitely, and Ron will describe this as his finest hour.

Mike: What is the incantation for creating a horcrux

J.K. Rowling: I cannot possibly tell you. Some things are better left unsaid.

Samantha: Was snape the only death eater who could produce a full patronus

J.K. Rowling: Yes, because a Patronus is used against things that the Death Eaters generally generate, or fight alongside. They would not need Patronuses.

Jess: How did nagini could see harry and hermione if they were under the invisibility cloak

J.K. Rowling: Snakes’ sense are very different from human ones. They can detect heat and movement in a way that we can’t.

Chucky: Have you had another alternatives as book title apart from deathly hallows

J.K. Rowling: The two other possibilities were ‘the Elder Wand’ (used instead as a chapter title) and ‘the Peverell Quest’, which I decided against quite quickly. I think the word ‘Quest’ is a bit corny!

Iglooanne: What would your patronus be

J.K. Rowling: I’d like an otter, like Hermione, but I’ve got a feeling it might be a large dog.

The Stoic Cycle: Why is it that voldemort is unaware that the gaunt ring is a hallow, when he has worn it (such as in the memory the diary shows harry in book 2)

J.K. Rowling: Wearing the ring would not make the stone work. The stone existed outside the ring originally, and to use it you had to turn it three times in your hand.

Finchburg: Does the dark mark remain on those that voldemort has branded after his death or does the tattoo dissapear now he is gone thanks for considering my question!

J.K. Rowling: My pleasure, Finchburg! The Dark Mark would fade to a scar, not dissimilar to the lightning scar on Harry’s forehead.

J.K. Rowling: Like Harry’s, these scars would no longer burn or hurt.

Katie Mosher: How is the quibbler doing these days

J.K. Rowling: Pretty well, actually. It has returned to its usual condition of advanced lunacy, and is appreciated for its unintentional humour.

Camille: Dear mrs rowling, while im here I want to thank you for making me laugh, cry (a lot! Most of all for sirius!) since im 11 quite a long time for me as im 20 harrys magic and yours will be with me forever! Thanks!

J.K. Rowling: Thank you very much, Camille, and I’m sorry about Sirius. That man’s got a lot of fans.

J.K. Rowling: Mostly female, I might add.

Nicofr: Does winky still drink a lot of butterbear

J.K. Rowling: She’s dried out a bit now.

Isabel: Did bellatrix ever love her husband, or did she have love only for voldemort

J.K. Rowling: She took a pureblood husband, because that was what was expected of her, but her true love was always Voldemort.

jenny: How did snape keep his patronus secret from the rest of the order?

J.K. Rowling: He was careful not to use the talking Patronus means of communication with them. This was not difficult, as his particular job within the Order, ie, as spy, meant that sending a Patronus to any of them might have given away his true allegiance.

Darchey: Did voldemort ever love a girl

J.K. Rowling: No, he loved only power, and himself. He valued people whom he could use to advance his own objectives.

Leo: What would your wand be made of

J.K. Rowling: I’d like Harry’s wand – holly and phoenix feather.

Brian: Did the da keep the coins?

J.K. Rowling: Naturally. They would be like badges or medals of honour – proof that the owner had been at the heart of the fight against Voldemort from the start! I like to imagine Neville showing his to his admiring pupils.

Tracie: How relieved are you that you can finally talk about the series no more secretkeeping!

J.K. Rowling: I’m elated! It is great to be able to do this at last, I’ve looked forward to it for so long!

Lou: How did snape get into grimmauld place to get the second half of the letter, if there were protection spells on the house stopping snape getting in

J.K. Rowling: Snape entered the house immediately after Dumbledore’s death, before Moody put up the spells against him.

Koen Van Der Voort: Why is the scar on harrys forehead lightning shaped

J.K. Rowling: To be honest, because it’s a cool shape. I couldn’t have my hero sport a doughnut-shaped scar.

Louie: Did mariettas pimply formation ever fade

J.K. Rowling: Eventually, but it left a few scars. I loathe a traitor!

Katie B: Why was kings cross the place harry went to when he died

J.K. Rowling: For many reasons. The name works rather well, and it has been established in the books as the gateway between two worlds, and Harry would associate it with moving on between two worlds (don’t forget that it is Harry’s image we see, not necessarily

J.K. Rowling: what is really there.

J.K. Rowling: We seem to have over-run. We’ve had over 120,000 questions, I’ve been told!

J.K. Rowling: What can I say? Thank you so much for sticking with me, and with Harry, for so long. You have made this an incredible journey for Harry’s author.

J.K. Rowling: I like this question, so I’ll take it for my last.

Tess: What muggle song do you imagine would be played at dumbledores funeral

J.K. Rowling: Surely ‘I did it my way’ by Frank Sinatra.

J.K. Rowling: I’m very aware I haven’t answered everything… keep an eye on my website, and I’ll try and answer some more questions in due course!

J.K. Rowling: Thanks very much everybody, I’ve had a great time, and I hope I’ve covered some of the outstanding questions (I hear a distant roar of ‘YOU DIDN’T GET TO MINE!’)

J.K. Rowling: That’s it… I’m Disapparating. Bye!
53711, that was so very satisfying. thanks
Posted by Damali, Tue Jul-31-07 09:47 AM
i love her imagination so much. she's probably hella fun to hang out with
53712, Am i the only one that thought it wasn't in Snapes character....
Posted by Blinky_Blinx, Tue Jul-31-07 11:49 AM
...to be crying? And other such things that where revealed in that chapter...just seemed completely out of character.
53713, the tears were legit imo
Posted by earthqueen, Tue Jul-31-07 12:51 PM
1. He loved lily for most of their lives, he tried to protect them, albeit last minute dannamug.

2. he had promised Dumbledore that he would protect Harry only to find out after it all, that he was doing so to pretty much send him out as a sheep amongst wolves.
53714, i mean, yea...
Posted by Blinky_Blinx, Tue Jul-31-07 01:04 PM
...he had reason to be upset...but crying?! really?! I found it particularly hard to imagine and i still do
53715, do you think it weakend the strength of his character?
Posted by earthqueen, Tue Jul-31-07 01:10 PM
It seems like it was her attempt at showing him as more human/vunerable than portrayed in previous books....
53716, i think when you look at it that way...
Posted by Blinky_Blinx, Tue Jul-31-07 01:24 PM
...it makes more sense, i just some difficulty seeing someone who was so cold in previous books, showing affection for Harry...almost like trying to imagine Voldemort with tears...iono...
53717, ahh, but it wasn't for Harry, it was for his mom...
Posted by earthqueen, Tue Jul-31-07 01:53 PM
that's why he didn't take the whole letter from sirius's room, only the part with her signature on it...
53718, i dont have the book with me any more as i've given it to someone but...
Posted by Blinky_Blinx, Tue Jul-31-07 04:35 PM
...im sure he started crying after he was told Harry was set to die...or was he crying because he thought he had failed Lily in some aspect?
53719, personally I think it's both..
Posted by earthqueen, Tue Jul-31-07 04:53 PM
53720, You can't even compare Snape to Riddle
Posted by JungleSouljah, Tue Jul-31-07 03:35 PM
Riddle never loved anyone or cared for them. Snape loved Lily deeply, but he was taken in by his fascination with power. He got sucked into the Dark Arts and he had to weigh his love for both. But as soon as Lily found out she wanted nothing to do with him and so he went back to Voldemort and the Dark Arts not realizing that one day he might be forced to face the woman he loved.
53721, RE: You can't even compare Snape to Riddle
Posted by Blinky_Blinx, Tue Jul-31-07 04:44 PM
>Riddle never loved anyone or cared for them. Snape loved
>Lily deeply

But we didnt know that untill the last book, before that chapter you could have safely assumed that it was the same for Snape
53722, Everything about that chapter was out of character
Posted by SienaBlaze, Tue Jul-31-07 02:23 PM
Deep down I knew Snape wasn't completely evil.

The part where he does it all because of his love for Lily surprised me. I think he loved her and he loved the part of Harry that was Lily. He hated the part of Harry that was James especially since so many people said how much Harry resembled his father. I think if James and Lily Potter had a daughter that was the splitting image of Lily and was in the same situation he would have been a different character.

Rowlings was brillant with that chapter. Snape had the hardest job in the series. He had to protect Harry and still appear to be on Voldermort's side. If you think about the series Snape saved Harry's life a few times. So him crying makes perfect sense.

I loved the fact that his patronus was a silver doe. I read in one of the many post Hallows transcprits that since you have to think about your happiest memory to produce one the shape your patronus takes is usually associated with the memory. Harry's was a stag because his happy memory was of his parents. (His father's patronus was a stag). Snape happiest was with Lily. The woman was dead at least 17 years and that was still the memory he used to produce his patronus.

This is so much more than I planned to say about this subject but that chapter was just brillant.


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53723, woooowwwww. i just got that (why snape's patronus was a doe).
Posted by poetx, Tue Jul-31-07 03:47 PM
excellent explanation.


peace & blessings,

x.

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** i move away from the mic to breathe in
53724, RE: woooowwwww. i just got that (why snape's patronus was a doe).
Posted by Blinky_Blinx, Tue Jul-31-07 04:47 PM
>excellent explanation.
>

co-sign
53725, I have only ONE question that continues to baffle me...
Posted by soulgyal, Wed Aug-01-07 11:46 AM
What the HELL did those muggle boys do to Dumbledore's little sister? Did they rape her or something? I guess I'm just too slow to have put it together. All I remember is that they never said but everybody got this quesy look on their face or something.
53726, I wondered if that part of the book was...
Posted by Blinky_Blinx, Thu Aug-02-07 03:17 PM
...different in the adult version
53727, In the adult version
Posted by SienaBlaze, Thu Aug-02-07 03:27 PM
Ron would have walked in on Harry and Ginny naked and in bed.



Siena Blaze
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53728, lol!
Posted by sweet ruffian, Thu Aug-02-07 05:06 PM
53729, waitwaitwaitwaitwait....there are ADULT versions of this?
Posted by soulgyal, Thu Aug-02-07 06:38 PM
53730, So is that a yes?
Posted by soulgyal, Thu Aug-02-07 06:40 PM
53731, it's an 'iono'...
Posted by Blinky_Blinx, Thu Aug-02-07 08:17 PM
...i only wondered. Nobody i know has the adult edition for me to ask, but there is one ---> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Harry-Potter-Deathly-Hallows-Adult/dp/0747591067/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/202-2787991-1651849?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186103668&sr=8-2

Theres an adult edition for all the Potter books...
53732, oh I'm all over it. why aren't these advertised?
Posted by earthqueen, Fri Aug-03-07 11:10 AM
53733, I wish they did
Posted by SienaBlaze, Fri Aug-03-07 11:17 AM
I heard of this with the release of the last book. I knew someone that worked at Barnes and Nobles corporate and that is the copy he owns

They have that edition because business men in England wanted to read the book in public (for example on their way to work) but they didn't want to sit on the train with what looks like a childrens book


Siena Blaze
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53734, oh is it just the cover? or a different/enhanced story?
Posted by earthqueen, Fri Aug-03-07 12:12 PM
53735, I can make no guarantees, but....
Posted by DubSpt, Fri Aug-03-07 12:33 PM
Ron DOES say "freaking" a few times in the last book.

So... who knows.
53736, it's just the cover.
Posted by reuser, Tue Aug-07-07 11:07 AM
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it's exactly the same text inside - like dude said, it's just to avoid being seen with a kid's book in public.
53737, I DIDN'T LIKE THE ENDING
Posted by pimpinstein, Fri Aug-03-07 09:58 PM
not to say i didn't like the series or the 7th book as a whole...

i definitely thought it was great, but i didn't like the ending.

JK left a lot of unanswered questions and call me evil, but i really wanted to see harry die...i really thought he would after he turned himself in to voldemort. that chapter right before where he was preparing to face death was so amazing and inspirational...harry was so brave

it pissed me off to see him come back in a corny way, even though deep inside i figured rowling would never kill harry.

i wanted to see everybody else finish off voldemort, but whatever

one question though, how come harry's wand was the elder wand??!!

yes, i know malfoy was "supposed" to kill dumbledore, but he never did...it was snape, so why wasn't snape's the elder wand like voldemort originally thought?

did snape use malfoy's wand to kill dumbledore or what?

that was the bit i found most confusing.

she also left some unanswered questions, notably what happens to people who go through the veil and what those brains were in that pool @ the dept. of mysteries among other things.

the ending was a little too merry and happy for me.

oh well, other than that i can't complain...the boooks were pretty awesome.
53738, your answer is here:
Posted by earthqueen, Sat Aug-04-07 09:29 AM
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=301600&mesg_id=301600&page=#303499
53739, Just finished it....
Posted by J Fabuluz, Mon Aug-06-07 11:29 AM
Man when Harry lifted up the snitch and and said " Im about to die"

that shit fucked with me hard, I was like nooooooooo it can't end like this. And then him and Voldy walking in a circle and Harry giving him the speech.......CLASSIC!
53740, If or when they make the film its gonna be pretty shitty...
Posted by Blinky_Blinx, Mon Aug-06-07 11:42 AM
...the films already leave out some key things and i can only see it getting worse
53741, yeah I was bored yesterday and started reading the first ones
Posted by earthqueen, Mon Aug-06-07 12:43 PM
and it was little stuff like Petunia was blond,
Hagrid FED Harry when they first met, and they spent the night in the Shack on The Rock, The Sea

and just whole lot of stuff that I never compared before, like who said what...

but for the most part, I think the movies leave some things out because of the kids...I mean we'd get it, but the kiddies may have a hard time...
53742, I'm mad at JK for Lupin
Posted by xangeluvr, Sun Aug-12-07 03:11 PM
Lupin and Tonks being killed makes me a little mad. here's a quick summary of his crappy life.

- he is attacked by a werewolf.
- he survives the vicious attack, but becomes an outcast his entire life as he becomes one.
- he probably has never had a girlfriend because of what he is.
- he finally finds friends that accept him, but then his best friend James Potter is killed.
- for 14 years he believes that his other best friend Sirius is the one that did it.
- he also believes that Sirius killed another friend, Peter.
- he lives poor because nobody will give him a job.
- he finally gets a job at Hogwarts but has to leave a few months later, again due to his werewolf status.
- after things are cleared up and he and Sirius are once again friends, he has to watch as Sirius is killed by Bellatrix.
- then he finally finds love in Tonks, but is tormented by the thought that there child will be a werewolf and for a short time leaves his pregnant wife.
- and then finally when he goes back to her and they have the baby and he's the happiest he's ever been he F*CKING DIES??? HIS WIFE TOO??

c'mon Rowling, why couldn't you give this guy a break?