oh yeah and it hasnt come up yet but im sick of hearing about Kramer. The guy isnt a racist actually listen to the sort of thing s he said in that tape besides nigger. I do think he made a horrible mistake. trying to improvise a discussion "whats on the inside" or whatever he says. its hard to do that while a heckler is sitting there. if you remember everyone in the news was calling him a racist while cops in NY killed a black man leaving HIS bachelor party. No one said racism, not even all the blacks actors out of work. they knew cosmo was a better piggy back.