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47862, RE: Irony and sarcasm don't magically remove the sentiment
Posted by WaxLablTabler, Fri Apr-14-06 12:35 PM

>Honestly, I'm reminded of a song that's on "Fantastic Damage"
>by El-P. He tries to make fun of the lame misogyny that's so
>present in rap songs by making an over-the-top misogynistic
>song. I always have a private chuckle whenever I hear it
>because I think of how these guys, in trying to say that
>woman-hating is lame, can't do anything except hate women so
>much that it becomes ridiculous. They're incapable of making
>a song that is legitimately pro-woman and positive because
>they're still so trapped in the same mindset that they can't
>really think around it.
>
>So that's the point -- irony and sarcasm are a weak person's
>tool of self-expression. If Sarah Silverman has nuanced and
>complicated ideas about race and race relations in the United
>States, the challenge is to make jokes about it without just
>repeating the same tired stuff. Instead, she just saysthe
>same tired stuff, only this time she adds, "But I'm doing it
>ironically to expose its failures!" Which isn't doing enough
>in the eyes of the people making critiques.


The term "bridge the gap" springs to mind immediately.