I'm coppin a ticket for the midnite show, who else?
Peace.

Love it or hate it, those dirty muties pwn me.

Check!

they have my money already.

I'd rather have a copy fall into my lap from god then pay $15 at a movie.

I'm gonna watch my movie at midnight just so I can talk shit about it later...

V.

poor script writing
poor directing
the animation couldve used a lot of help

seriously folks, save your money. cop it from the bootleg nigga on your corner.

youre gonna be dissapointed i guarantee.

i was impressed by the trailer, but the movie is just garbage.

V.

how the fuck they gon kill prof x, jean grey and cyclops?

more importantly, how the fuck you gon kill cyclops within like 15 minutes?

and since when is the juggernaut not only a mutant....but british?

re-tarded! (c) carlos mencia

p.s., that end scene with magneto moving the chess piece was the ultimate kick in the nuts.

i'm seeing it later today, i don't give a shit about spoilers or not. they never ruin a movie for me.

anyway, i'm sorta glad to hear that cyclops dies. i hate that little bitch. now i can see people mad cuz that fucks with the story, but whatever. jean and prof getting offed sucks though. they're like the most powerful mutants there are and they die? wtf? like i said, i'm seeing it later so i'll be back with my opinion of all this.

its how.

two films in a row, jean dies. retarded.
the way phoenix kills prof x. retarded.
having cyclops in the film for 10 minutes, crying the whole time. SUPER RETARDED.

and the fact that magneto went out like a bitch? you already know.

comic then ur gonna be disappointed of course

i mean u shoulda been known that with how sucky the movie rogue is compared to the comic book or even cartoon one

u can get that from the first movie

the movie was still ass.

the first two movies strayed from the comics hardcore....but i loved them both.

in fact i was extremely impressed with the first two movies because of their abilities to please both the fanboys and the newcomers.

im willing to compromise, but that shit was trash.

The script was the only thing keeping this movie afloat. Also the worst cinematography had to been in the woods after Jean joined Magneto. I had trouble seeing them because the lighting was distracting. And when did Pyro dye his hair blonde? WTF?

Yep, a lot of muties were dying or got depowered. They only people from the first film still alive and with their powers were Wolvie and Storm. Yep, that's why the "cure" probably won't last long.

did u see magneto move that chess piece?

>did u see magneto move that chess piece?

i just thought he was trying pathetically and failed. i should've been watching the chess piece.

Straight-up ASS. I'm not even an X-Men fan (DC head here), and that? Was some goddamn bullshit. Ratner and the script"writers" need their asses kicked.

charles ain't dead he's at the end

I had to fork out another 9bucks to peep that hidden ending.

something told me to stick around for the credits... but i think i was so pissed off at the movie that i left

i'm not paying another 9 bucks to see this. what happened at the end of the credits?

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honest, i coulda read about that here and been happy

The whole thing felt sloppy. The characters seemed inconsistent. The plot raised some questions. The dialogue felt overly dramatic. There were a lot of things that I felt could have been used to greater effect and should have elicited a stronger reaction but the movie seemed to just let everything evaporate. I thought the acting was decent though and the effects were on point.

I thought the script was good. The acting and sometimes line delivery was bad. Not "What happens when a Toad get struck by lightening?" bad but close. But prepare to hear "Do you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!" all summer long. That got the most applause in the theatre. Only when Beast start fighting did anything else come close.

was the chase sequence with kitty and the juggernaut.

everything else was either half-assed or way overdone.

all of this shit was just X-ploitation, shock for the sake of shock (and yet, not very shocking).

when he flys 3,000 miles from new york to alcatraz?
to save his dad? LAME.

not to mention predictable.

and those faraway shots of him flying....he just looked like a damn seagull. i hope they didn't waste $$$ on cgi when they could have filmed a seagull for free.

at best

>at best

i agree. i mean "WETA" has done amazing effects and now this...ahhh well. you can't bat .1000

>when he flys 3,000 miles from new york to alcatraz?
>to save his dad? LAME.
>
>not to mention predictable.

would you not want to save your father? give 'im a lil cred

It was aight. The best thing about the movie was SPOILER**********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************






The Ghostrider preview and even that looked kinda suspect.

V.

I thought it was pretty good.
I don't know if its better than 2, but it was pretty damn cool (although there were a few things that could have been different).
I'll post up a review later when I get some time.

How can they kill off Cyclops and Mystique? THEY THE HEART OF THE X-MEN! . Jean Grae killing everything in site except Wolverine? Yo that broad was straight vaporizing shit but not wolvie, oh no lol.......he got the chance to heal everytime she stopped.........lol? Why couldn't Cyclops face Juggernaut? Like Kitty Pride could really fuck with the Juggernaut.....lol. And then shit just kept happening like one scene Beast was talking to the president and then all of a sudden he's fighting in a tight ass suit which I can see they wanted to be funny but Beast didn't waer suits when I was into X-Men.

>How can they kill off Cyclops and Mystique? THEY THE HEART OF
>THE X-MEN! . Jean Grae killing everything in site except
>Wolverine? Yo that broad was straight vaporizing shit but not
>wolvie, oh no lol.......he got the chance to heal everytime
>she stopped.........lol? Why couldn't Cyclops face Juggernaut?
>Like Kitty Pride could really fuck with the
>Juggernaut.....lol. And then shit just kept happening like one
>scene Beast was talking to the president and then all of a
>sudden he's fighting in a tight ass suit which I can see they
>wanted to be funny but Beast didn't waer suits when I was into
>X-Men.


aiyo dog. i read xmen every month. let's not EVEN try to get into continuity with hollywood. on any book for that matter. lol

That preview looked real "DAREDEVIL-ISH" to me!!!

X3 I was expecting more. The Bridge scene was wwwwaaaaayyyyyy over done.

n/m

he alone with make me not see it

superman looks good tho

A fitting third installment, storyline was actually fitting.

i liked it and think it's the best of the x-trilogy.

i figured it would be terrible after reading that old script review that leaked last year and after hearing that ratner was directing but i was plesantly surprised.

n/m

From the first movie until now, storm has gotten her ass beat consistently.....by newjacks nonetheless!!

WTF??????

How the fuck Dark Phoenix gon demolecularize errbody??? Prof X in a new body?? Fuck that ending!!!

All the comic book nerds were right to be pissed off before it came out.

From the "pithy" one-liners to the final sequence with Magneto.

It was two and a half years of the most amazing foreplay followed by two hours of the most awkward and sloppy sex.

its described as 1hr44mins...but really its like 90 minutes long.

but then again i cant say i would have enjoyed another half hour of that garbage.

but i think that if they had made it 2 hrs the script wouldnt have been so rushed.

lol everyone in the theater cheered when that trailer came on.





but anyway, the movie was pretty alright, nothing too special, still better than #1 anyway.
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To the bar last night.

I didn't see that trailer. My theatre had Ghostrider, Click, My Super Ex-Girlfriend (I'm sooo seeing that. Rainn Wilson, Eddie Izzard, and Wanda Sykes alone would make a good movie.), Pirates of the Caribbean II and The Omen trailers.

I had Ghost Rider, The Omen, the new Fast & Furious, Superman Returns (the long trailer), & that movie where Uma Thurman is a superhero.

At our movie theater (crown in htfd, CT) we got all those movies as well as SOAP at the end, right before x-men started
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It's probably different at each individual theater.

that's got a good cast. i think i'll probably go see it.

CYCLOPS FANS UNITE

HOW THE FUCK CAN THE LEADER OF THE X-MEN HAVE A TOTAL OF 30 MINUTES SCREEN TIME IN THE LAST 2 MOVIES.

that was some stupid shit, and i know that they need storm to take the leadership role, but cyclops is the guy who should be pulling the team together in battle not wolverine.

they could easily have him come back in the next sequel, and probably will but if he doesnt have a huge part i will be disgusted.

I cant enjoy a movie that completely castrates my favorite marvel character.

>they could easily have him come back in the next sequel, and
>probably will but if he doesnt have a huge part i will be
>disgusted.

You know this is the last one right? Magnito is getting an "origin" movie, and Wolverine is getting his one flick. But the X-Men franchise is over. Thats why they had no problem killing everyone off.

They hint that at least one person killed isn't dead and one person who was "cured" might be getting his powers back.

until someone decideds to do XMen Returns....

n/m

...

just wondering...this felt like 2000 for a sec...

go put on a leather jacket and some sunglasses and beat off to your wolverine poster.

Cyclops is the shit, i will not tolerate hate.

Oh, and the real reason they killed Scott was in spite of Marsden doing Superman. Whatever, though, he was a bitch and a dick (don't ask me how the anatomy of that works).

--

Whats that about?

son of Perry White, and I believe love interest of Lois Lane.

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he is of little interest to the movie series

do you really think that a trilogy where one eye is the featured character is going to SERIOUSLY draw interest?

you may have this sentimental attathment because hes your guy and all, but he isnt all that exciting a character for this movie. he's boring, and the only thing good about him in the last two was the tension with wolverine-and it was wolverines smart ass that made that dynamic worth a damn as it was.

yesm he ius the leader, yes he is the og xman, yes he is inte\gral to the history and all that good stuff... but for a movie, especially the direction this film takes, it is far better story telling to watch wolvie evolve into a leader throughout the series. taht makes much more sense.

no offense to cykes but he just isnt worth screen time.

the reason this movie sucks is because they completely contorted the characters, u say its more interesting to have a "wolvie evolution" flick but that shit is wack.

lets not have wolverine acting like a boy scout, that "lets work together" scene made me cringe because that should have been cyc and wolvie would have never said that shit.

and move on

>CYCLOPS FANS UNITE
>
>HOW THE FUCK CAN THE LEADER OF THE X-MEN HAVE A TOTAL OF 30
>MINUTES SCREEN TIME IN THE LAST 2 MOVIES.
>
>that was some stupid shit, and i know that they need storm to
>take the leadership role, but cyclops is the guy who should be
>pulling the team together in battle not wolverine.
>
>they could easily have him come back in the next sequel, and
>probably will but if he doesnt have a huge part i will be
>disgusted.
>
>I cant enjoy a movie that completely castrates my favorite
>marvel character.

SUPER CO-SIGN. i mean, i know you can't follow everything but that's like doing a Jackson 5 movie with michael only getting 5 minutes of 90 minutes of the movie

the only redeeming part of this movie....

Im the juggernaut bitch.

but wtf was up with his costume???

aiya im dripping hate right now

It was only the 5 of us in the theater so we were all drinking and talking, and I'm like "JUGGERNAUT BITCH!" when he first showed up in the film.

And then HE SAID IT! He ACTUALLY said it.

Costume was a little eehhh, but it likely would have been more ridiculous if they would've gone all brown on us.

I don't read comics so I don't know any backstory going into the X-Men movies, but I thought it was solid. I can see how die-hards would hate it though: it was more than sloppy at times. Still found it entertaining.

If nothing else, it has MI:3 beat by a long-shot IMO.

One question though:

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Why didn't Wolverine just stab ol' girl with a antidote syringe at the end instead of impailing her? Did I miss something?

That's what I thought was going to happen I was pissed when I realized he killed her. The Phoenix shouldn't have gone out like that. It would have been more appropriate since it looks like the "cure" doesn't last that long.

>Why didn't Wolverine just stab ol' girl with a antidote
>syringe at the end instead of impailing her? Did I miss
>something?

If you notice when he was walking toward her, everything around them was getting destroyed. INCLUDING Wolverine himself. (You saw his skeleton a few times before he rehealed.) Those syringes would have been destroyed after he took his 1st step toward her. ( just like all those hundreds of ones that the army shot at her on the bridge) Thats why Storm said Wolverine was the only one who could kill her, cuz he's the only person/thing that couldnt be completely destroyed.

Thanks for the insight--makes sense. I knew there had to be a reason and figured I was overlooking something...

...how that would end? would her powers cease?

n/m

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at the end of the movie...he ran past all of them and nothing happened to any of them. (big editing mistake)

you trynna say his mutant healing factor covers those too?

he should've had to beat her to death with his bare hands....



overall though.....

the whole X-men franchise was ruined when they rearangged the original timelines in order to create all those titles and make everybody an their mother a mutant....

They should have gone back to the original Dark Phoenix Saga

I went in fully expecting that fag Brett Ratner to fuck it up in the worst way possible but ultimately I felt like he did a decent job.

The emphasis was on the special effects more than the previous, and it seemed to lack the focus and direction the first two did, but on the whole, it was a worthwhile experience. Worth the $10 I spent.

The problem, I suppose, is that X2 set the bar so incredibly high that it would have taken a tremendous film to top it, or at the very least equal, and he wasn't up to the job.

I'd probably even give it a second go on DVD.

Sure it had its faults....weak points... it could have been waaaaaaaay worse. And I loved all the deaths.

Thats not saying much.... but still. I actually got a lil hype.

It looked okay but I can't stand Nic Cage.

So obviously I was either asleep at the end, or just not dedicated enough, but can someone let me in on the "Prof X in another body bit". I got the terrible Magneto twist, but Charles?

I thought overall the movie had potential, but they should've spent time on Kitty, Colossus etc... instead of so much on by far the dullest characters.

PS WTF was Nightwcrawler?

>PS WTF was Nightwcrawler?

Cummings said Fox didn't pick up his option to be in it again.

Something about it being explained in the videogame so now not only did I have to watch the movie twice coz I missed the end bit, but now I have to play the game as well! & I dont even own a console!

F*ck this movie-game-comic BS!

but didnt do shit with them

colussus's CGI needs to go back to the drawing board.

You have to stay after the credits roll.

what did I miss?

I took my "always-gives-me-grief-about-reading-comics" girlfriend with me. There was no way in hell she would've let us wait, even if she enjoyed the movie more than I did.

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he shows the brain-dead dude moira is working with and asks whether or not it would be ethical to place someone else's brain in dude's body?

well at the end after the credits it shows Moira working on the brain-dead dude and all of sudden, in charles' voice, he says "Moira?" So charles downloaded himself into another body before he died.

he must've done that shit fast, then

jean grey disinigrated(sp) him

1. The Juggernaut IS NOT A MUTANT!!! He, like Spidey, is an Altered Human.

2. WHY THE FUCK wouldn't Professor X recognize his Half brother upon sight? I mean...he had been trying KILL Professor X for YEARS!!!

3. Why even have Rogue in this movie if you're not, AT SOME POINT...going to have her permanently steal Ms. Marvel's powers so that she can have at least SOME functionality in battle?!?

4. Why the fuck is Kitty Pride hugging all up to Iceman....wasn't she fucking COLOSSUS?!?

5. Speaking of which.....WHERE THE FUCK IS LOCKHEED?!?

6. As much as I was pleased to see Cyclops murdered in the first 20 minutes of the flick...even I have to admit he didn't deserve to go out like that...

7. Neither did Jean Grey....the "imposed mental blocks" bullshit was actually what Professor X did to his son, Legion....and whatever the case....IT SUCKED!!!

I'm sorry...I'm a fucking fanboy. There were so many inconsistencies between the actual Marvel Universe and this happy happy shit.......

8. Isn't LEECH a ugly little green Morlock kid?

9. MYSTIQUE turning STATES to spite MAGNETO?!? I wanted to fucking vomit.

Booo!!!

Booooooooo I tell you!!!

Boooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

>1. The Juggernaut IS NOT A MUTANT!!! He, like Spidey, is an
>Altered Human.

do you really think they had the time to explain about the crystal? you cant do EVERYTHING in continuity, and you sure as hell shouldnt devote such time to such a minor character (within the context of the movie)

>2. WHY THE FUCK wouldn't Professor X recognize his Half
>brother upon sight? I mean...he had been trying KILL Professor
>X for YEARS!!!

again, this isnt in continuity buddy. this isnt a dynamic that was vital to this particular story. you have to pick in choose the important elements.

>3. Why even have Rogue in this movie if you're not, AT SOME
>POINT...going to have her permanently steal Ms. Marvel's
>powers so that she can have at least SOME functionality in
>battle?!?

yeah, this is pissing me off as well since she would have been an absolute badass in that final battle. she was a tragically wasted character from that standpoint.

>4. Why the fuck is Kitty Pride hugging all up to
>Iceman....wasn't she fucking COLOSSUS?!?

i thought they were siblings in the book for ome reason... but i dont see where she was ever with peter in the last movie....

>5. Speaking of which.....WHERE THE FUCK IS LOCKHEED?!?

why would he be important to this story?

>6. As much as I was pleased to see Cyclops murdered in the
>first 20 minutes of the flick...even I have to admit he didn't
>deserve to go out like that...

fuck yeah he did... it really didnt matter to me hopw they offed his ass, i was just happy to see that waste of screen time removed.

>7. Neither did Jean Grey....the "imposed mental blocks"
>bullshit was actually what Professor X did to his son,
>Legion....and whatever the case....IT SUCKED!!!

hell yeah it did. again,m they had to alter shit to fit this story line for the movie, which i didnt really care for.

>I'm sorry...I'm a fucking fanboy. There were so many
>inconsistencies between the actual Marvel Universe and this
>happy happy shit.......

you cant make a movie of this magnitude and keep everything intact. that said, they have still taken far too many liberties with characters and reduced mighty foes worthy of being central figures (imagine what the spiderman team would do with a guy like juggernaut? they would have made him a dark, kickass monster to contend with rather then some wise ass who does little more ten head butt walls)

>8. Isn't LEECH a ugly little green Morlock kid?

yup, but again, this kid was a little moreinteresting for the screen imo. it was more fitting with this particualr world of x men to me.

>9. MYSTIQUE turning STATES to spite MAGNETO?!? I wanted to
>fucking vomit.

yeah... i expected a far more ambivilant human out of her, im with you here...

i get what your bothered by, i share many of the same frustrations with this movie, but i dont think you are taking some things into consideration.

But this in particular...


>5. Speaking of which.....WHERE THE FUCK IS LOCKHEED?!?
>

1. Lockheed was a stupid concept right from the word go
2. How you going to explain an alien dragon in the context of this movie huh?

>2. How you going to explain an alien dragon in the context of
>this movie huh?

j/k

except #9. i'm with you on that one. for her to switch sides on some "my boyfriend dissed me" shit is retardedly out of character (and I'm talking movie characterization, not comics.)

It was part of the plan, remeber Magneto sent the US forces to that hideout, as he attacked San Francisco. Mystic was just doing what she could.



>except #9. i'm with you on that one. for her to switch
>sides on some "my boyfriend dissed me" shit is retardedly out
>of character (and I'm talking movie characterization, not
>comics.)


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>1. The Juggernaut IS NOT A MUTANT!!! He, like Spidey, is an
>Altered Human.
>
>2. WHY THE FUCK wouldn't Professor X recognize his Half
>brother upon sight? I mean...he had been trying KILL Professor
>X for YEARS!!!
>
>3. Why even have Rogue in this movie if you're not, AT SOME
>POINT...going to have her permanently steal Ms. Marvel's
>powers so that she can have at least SOME functionality in
>battle?!?

Not only that, but why have they not talked about her relationship with Mystique or Nightcrawlers's for that matter. Not even a brief foreshadowing.
>
>4. Why the fuck is Kitty Pride hugging all up to
>Iceman....wasn't she fucking COLOSSUS?!?

Yeah stupid, and why couldn't we see a Colossus and Juggernaut brawl, that would abeen the shit.
>
>5. Speaking of which.....WHERE THE FUCK IS LOCKHEED?!?

Come on now, even I can admit that's asking too much.
>
>6. As much as I was pleased to see Cyclops murdered in the
>first 20 minutes of the flick...even I have to admit he didn't
>deserve to go out like that...

Agreed...
>
>7. Neither did Jean Grey....the "imposed mental blocks"
>bullshit was actually what Professor X did to his son,
>Legion....and whatever the case....IT SUCKED!!!
>
>I'm sorry...I'm a fucking fanboy. There were so many
>inconsistencies between the actual Marvel Universe and this
>happy happy shit.......
>
>8. Isn't LEECH a ugly little green Morlock kid?

I can live with that...
>
>9. MYSTIQUE turning STATES to spite MAGNETO?!? I wanted to
>fucking vomit.

Yeah that was wack, glad to see I'm not the only one disappointed.

But two things I liked:

Callisto, not the character, but the "She Hate Me" chick who played her.

I think Kelsey Grammar really captured the essence of Hank McCoy even though they portrayed him as an Uncle Tom Mutant.
>
>Booo!!!
>
>Booooooooo I tell you!!!
>
>Boooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
>

>But two things I liked:
>
>Callisto, not the character, but the "She Hate Me" chick who
>played her.

damn shame is...they never really LABEL her like that. storm and her don't "NOTICE" each other like they would've and then on top of that she would've known about leech looooooooooooong before.

its at most a two hour movie, come on now

>2. WHY THE FUCK wouldn't Professor X recognize his Half
>brother upon sight? I mean...he had been trying KILL Professor
>X for YEARS!!!

not his half brother.
i mean, if we're being picky about the details...


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>1. The Juggernaut IS NOT A MUTANT!!! He, like Spidey, is an
>Altered Human.
>
>2. WHY THE FUCK wouldn't Professor X recognize his Half
>brother upon sight? I mean...he had been trying KILL Professor
>X for YEARS!!!
>
>3. Why even have Rogue in this movie if you're not, AT SOME
>POINT...going to have her permanently steal Ms. Marvel's
>powers so that she can have at least SOME functionality in
>battle?!?
>
>4. Why the fuck is Kitty Pride hugging all up to
>Iceman....wasn't she fucking COLOSSUS?!?
>
>5. Speaking of which.....WHERE THE FUCK IS LOCKHEED?!?
>
>6. As much as I was pleased to see Cyclops murdered in the
>first 20 minutes of the flick...even I have to admit he didn't
>deserve to go out like that...
>
>7. Neither did Jean Grey....the "imposed mental blocks"
>bullshit was actually what Professor X did to his son,
>Legion....and whatever the case....IT SUCKED!!!
>
>I'm sorry...I'm a fucking fanboy. There were so many
>inconsistencies between the actual Marvel Universe and this
>happy happy shit.......
>
>8. Isn't LEECH a ugly little green Morlock kid?
>
>9. MYSTIQUE turning STATES to spite MAGNETO?!? I wanted to
>fucking vomit.
>
>Booo!!!
>
>Booooooooo I tell you!!!
>
>Boooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
>
SUPER CO-SIGN...I READ EVERY MONTH. LOL

Dude, I mean really.

Congratulations on knowing your X-Men trivia. But you can't honestly think that the movie actually suffered from these inconsistencies.

I don't want to necessarily resort to the 'You Mad' argument, but I think that some of the things being said here illustrate a lack of willingness on the part of the fanboys to "let go".

It's like part of us (yeah, I'm guilty of it too) doesn't want to share our little toys with mainstream audiences, so we delude ourselves into thinking that these aren't the *real* X-Men, based on some trivial shit like Magneto's helmet design, or Lockheed, Gambit, etc etc. Maybe I'm wrong here, it just seems to go a bit beyond your typical 'the book was better' commentary.

What gives?

I commend your unabashed embrace of nerdom, but come on now. I agree that this movie was not of previous quality because of the underuse of characters and primary focus on special effects (X-Men was the best movie, and the special effects were pretty sketchy). As for the rest, that's why you have the comic books.

PS-Mystique was helping Magneto, which I thought was pretty obvious. Beast threw down in the end, which I liked.

You knw what really bugged me? Why the hell would Magneto make his secret rally point in the middle of the damn woods? Let's pick the one place where he is absolutely least effective.

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>7. Neither did Jean Grey....the "imposed mental blocks"
>bullshit was actually what Professor X did to his son,
>Legion....and whatever the case....IT SUCKED!!!

I need to reference my Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe to be sure of the particulars, but as I recall Jean had both telepathic and telekenetic powers as a kid, but then her best friend died and Jean telepathically reached out to her as she died and it severely traumatized her, so Prof. X put in the mental circuit breakers to block her telepathic powers so they wouldn't drive her insane. which is why originally Marvel Girl was telekenetic but only had latent/repressed telepathic ability.

then when she became Phoenix (or the Phoenix force cloned her body or whatever the fuck), Prof. X reinfoced the mental circuit breakers as a precaution because she had become so powerful and potentially dangerous. But then Mesmero or whoever that Hellfire Club dude was broke them down to try to control her, and as a result she went psycho and thus Dark Phoenix emerged.

so they switched it up a bit because obviously they couldn't make it that complicated in the movie, but I thought it was cool that they worked that angle into the story.

>6. As much as I was pleased to see Cyclops murdered in the
>first 20 minutes of the flick...

LOL - I hate Cylcops too, but that shit's cold.

>even I have to admit he didn't
>deserve to go out like that...

what the hell did she do to him anyway? it looked like she sucked the life out of him like a cross between rougue and a vampire. which sucked, Phoenix is supposed to incinerate folks in a blaze of cosmic fire.

The Cure? Are you kidding me....how lame is that.

How'd prof x go out like that? And why was he smiling right before he was vaporised?

Why did they have the two lame ass characters the rivalry(sp), iceman vs fireman....whoaaa....

As soon as I saw that the angels father was on that island, I knew his ass was going to save him...way to predictable.

Does the cure work or not? Magneto ass still has powers or some shit.

Pass the credits, we get a hint that Prof x aint dead...but in a new body......BOOOOOOO

Wait till the DVD...

>How'd prof x go out like that? And why was he smiling right
>before he was vaporised?

>Pass the credits, we get a hint that Prof x aint dead...but in
>a new body......

Yeah it had its faults but so did the 1st 2 @ times.

The Good:

Magneto as always. Ian owns that role. Thought him & Mystique were tight 4 life. Guess not. It was nice 2 see he still has a little left @ the end 2.

Fenix. Bitch was fierce. If yall werent feelin that I dont know what 2 tell you.

The action scenes were all on point. Especially all the stuff involving Magneto. Juggaknot Beeatch was kinda corny but it was still cool once he got it rollin.

The Bad:

It was good 2 see Beast finally get down n dirty cuz the other main newcomer Angel was pretty much wasted.

I also expected more from Pyro this time. He was such a badass in X2 but basically mean mugged his way thru this 3rd

The Mystique cover up. Damn. But that reminds me I should throw that dude checkin her out back up in The Good category.

The Ugly:

Probably would've been much better under the hands of Singer. I'm thinkin he might've thrown in a 3 way scene w/ Fenix literally undressin Dania Ramirez & Storm w/ her eyes while they were fighting. But fuck it I was still entertained. I started hearin so much negative buzz about it that I thought I was gonna be watchin another Fantastic 4.

what shuold have been an epic ending to the trilogy was kind of disapointing- what should have been great was merely "cool".

first, they had the only premise the movie needed to be given life- the cure. the pheonix was absolutely pointless. the only real purpose she served was killing scott and xavier, which was rendered mute by the stupid ass twist after the credits, which i saw coming the second xavier got murked. anyone who didnt see that one must work at the daily planet.

they wasted the phoenix as a potential plot for future movies within this continuity.

im not too bothered by all the character liberties taken, but they took way too many.

too many flaws with magneto unable to use his powers at the end. sure, they had plastic guns. what about the metal light posts? what about the bridge and all the cars right behind them that he somehow forgot to use until after his squad of mutants got their ass handed to them?

rogue was all but wasted in this movie. in a potentially dope ass scene with just six xmen standing in a line against a massive brotherhood, a finally powered up rogue would have made a far more interesting fight then collossus, who they also wasted. kittie was great though. storm still wasnt bad ass enough- she really should have been the one to wax most of that mob, not the military guys. iceman should have done more then just a block or two, i expected the fight with pyro to be some epic shit, but it was just your classic (not in a good way) beam-on-beam struggle. boring. i wanted to see ice slides, i wanted to see a 5 minute brawl that stole the entire show. at least wolvie was wolvie, thank god for that.

jean WAS amazingly badass, but her entire character was useless. completely useless.

i DID enjoy the movie, i liked many aspects of it, but a movie of this scope had far too many glaring disapointments. a solid movie, but we should have gotten the epic that the basic premise of the story warrented.

>i DID enjoy the movie, i liked many aspects of it, but a movie
>of this scope had far too many glaring disapointments. a solid
>movie, but we should have gotten the epic that the basic
>premise of the story warrented.
>
word

complete waste of one of their best storylines

That nigga said *the* line, lol. People laughed cuz he said "bitch" but I don't think they really understood.

Angel was way underused.

I think Jugg's coulda made it through that wall, man.

y'all are obviously desperate for shit to hate on, but it's just not there. unless you're one of those pathetic "it has to be JUST like the comics" idiots, this movie fit perfectly into the trilogy. no one would've ever known it was done by a different director...had the same look, same tone, same feeling...and it was probably even better paced than the first two.

and it payed homage to "juggernaut bitch"...c'mon...how the fuck can you hate on that?

my only beef was some spotty dialogue and the use of hong kong wire work - i'm just sick of it in general.

but overall, this was one of the most enetertaining flicks i've seen in a long ass time.

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totally disregarding any story/character liberties taken with the Marvel universe, the writing was mostly bleh and the storyline just never went anywhere

I really only like X2; the first and third ones weren't nearly as good

any one who has taken anytime to think about the characters can realize this.

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The best part for me was near the beginning my friend turns to me and said "yo, i hope spiky face hugs someone to death". Near the end, when the hug scene came, he actually yelled out "just hug her!" Then spiky actually HUGGED the chick to death! We were dyin laughing! That was dude's big scene?!

And what was with shockwave chick, i mean, i know she was an actual character and all....but that chick looked like Prince!

This movie was pure cheese!

I thought she was a dude the whole movie, then Magneto calls her forward and I saw that dude had tits and was quite disturbed.

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I need to see this now.

I've always thought she was kinda sexy.

Dani and Halle were on point like a mug. Fineness.

-some corny dialog, like, almost james-bond-corny, but it comes with the territory i guess.

-LOL @ that prince looking motherfucker clapping and shit

-also that porcupine-face shit has gotta be the worst/ most useless power to have, and magneto put that bitch in his inner circle

-speaking of bitches, I'M THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH!!! haha. great reference they worked in

-how did they get everyone in the woods like that? just send out some flyers to bring tents and enough food for a few days? they've got some organization.

-comic book nerds might take offense with the incorrect storyline of the juggernaut. He just appears, and is not Charles' brother in this movie, but just some dude.

overall though, i thought it tied things up pretty well. a few good surprises and storylines. had a big hollywood ending with lots of orchestral arrangement and shit flying through the air. overall, comic book nerds, you need to lower your expectations. this is a good summer movie though.

>-how did they get everyone in the woods like that? just send
>out some flyers to bring tents and enough food for a few days?
>they've got some organization.

if mags can get mutants to go outer space on a fuckin asteroid then i think he can get them to rally in the forest. easy....lol

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Did anyone notice that when Magneto moves the bridge to Alcatraz its sunny and daytime, then all of a sudden, its night?? What was with that? Am I the only 1 who noticed, or am I missing something?

LOL Me and my friends looked at eachother like.... wasnt it the middle of the day a few seconds ago?
lol

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>Did anyone notice that when Magneto moves the bridge to
>Alcatraz its sunny and daytime, then all of a sudden, its
>night?? What was with that? Am I the only 1 who noticed, or
>am I missing something?

i noticed it too but i was like "is storm doing that?" but then i was like "storm isn't there."

ahhh well. just another continuity break

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

Oh shit, im gonna die when I see that...

The whole movie looked rushed: they rushed to write it, they rushed to make the special effects, and they wanted the movie to rush along so they rushed to the editing room to rush out any spare scenes that help us feel for the characters.

Don't get me wrong, I dug it, and I'll recommend it to all my friends. Shit, I'll probably see it again. But without the writing team of the last movie and without Bryan Singer, the movie just becomes a comic book movie-- it loses everything that had been built up so wonderfully in the last one. It's no longer based in reality, but in a world where everything is summed up nicely with one-liners that we can put in trailers, and the end is tied off with a nice little bow.

There were many issues brought up that I found interesting, that were promptly shooed off the screen. An additional 15 minutes would've REALLY helped this film. And an additional year to fix the movie-- 4 months at the beginning of the process to fix the script, and 8 months at the end to fix the special effects (it looked like all the special effects budget went to the Golden Gate Bridge shot, and everything else suffered...even the jet, which looked real in the FIRST movie, looked like it flew off a made-for-SciFi movie).

Everyone go see it, cuz it seriously isn't that bad. It's got a lot of great moments to geek out about. But if you're looking for a movie that isn't just a comic book movie, but is also a damn fine piece of cinema in its own right, we're gonna need to wait for Superman Returns, the next work by the writers/director who brought us the greatest comic book movie ever, X2.

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For story/character, even though the action was sort of underwhelming. I crack up everytime Wolverine goes flying through the window of the RV and slides across the snow.

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V.

I didn't think X2 was very good at all.

dude's a dick, but he knows his films. and i dont understand why he would paint X3 in such a positive light. shit is false advertising.

i enjoyed X1 and 2. i thought it was the right tempo, it felt 'realer' than X3, the dialogue was more natural and not a cliche-fest.

cmon Frank, X3 should get the thumbs down on dialogue ALONE.

V.

stop false advertising X3. i understand it's your opinion, but your opinion sucks.

V.

>V.

well i think this is where the defining line is.

it was "ENTERTAINING" but it wasn't good.

i was definitely entertained but the movie wasnt good

and it sucks how they wouldn't let Singer do all the larger scale stuff he wanted, but soon as he leaves they give The Rat license to explode/kill/demolecularise anyone and anything.

V.

the studio announced the release date before a script was even ready.
apparently some fox studio exec HATES comic book movies, and bryan singer especially, so when he left to go do superman he said fuck you and pushed the flick.

overall i liked it. i hate tp admit it, but i enjoyed it for what it was.

i was never married to the pheonix saga of the comic books. i mean it was cool for a comic book, but it NEVER woudl have translated to the screen without bringing in LOTS of space opera elements that were not in the previous movie. singer made a "real world" verson of the marvel universe, and the phoenix saga complete with clones, cosmic rays, galatci councils and shit just doesnt make any fucking since.

also magic was never intro'd into the singer universe, so doing juggs justice woudl have been tough to explain.

im not thrilled with the deaths ***SPOILER****

i mean cyc, prof. x, AND jean/pheonix. i mean i woudl have understood jean, but damn prof. x. i thought he woudl have transferred his consciousness into the guy in miorra's lab, but i guess not.

oh well

i guess i have to wait for the wolverine spin-offs

i mean i woudl have
>understood jean, but damn prof. x. i thought he woudl have
>transferred his consciousness into the guy in miorra's lab,
>but i guess not.

you're joking right? did you stay til after the credits?


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>i thought he woudl have
>transferred his consciousness into the guy in miorra's lab,
>but i guess not.

You need more internet.

well put.

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Full Disclosure: I'm not a Brett Ratner fan. And I haven't seen X-1 or X-2 in years.

That said, at least with Singer and his writers there was the illusion of character depth. There was none of that to be found here, which bugged me.

And for some reason, the "X-Men-as-minority/gay-folks metaphor" felt better realized in the Singer movies than in this one.

I did dig the last half hour, but then again it was yet another case of a superhero movie introducing too many new characters in order to (at least on the surface) appease certain segments of the fanbase instead of narrowing that focus on one or two villains. That said, I hope when they do the inevitable Wolverine movie they bring Vinnie Jones back as The Juggernaut. He was a hoot.

This felt like the Lethal Weapon 4 version of X-Men, where they started shooting in January or February of this year, wrapped in March, then spent April doing the F/X shots in order to get it out this month. It was eh.
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I thought it was a solid, *** movie. I had no delusions of a faithful comic book adaptation - I just wanted to see some great action scenes, and it delivered. Look, I love a lot of X-Men books, but people expecting 4 decades of some of the most convoluted continuity in the history of written language being accurately translated on screen are functionally retarded.

I'm not even gonna think about what Singer would've done if he still had the reigns, because it would just make me like X3 less.

As usual, Jackman and McKellen are great. Grammar made a great Beast.
As usual, Berry sucked.
Angel was wasted. Pyro, Colossus and Rogue were wasted (AGAIN). Kitty was cool.

I dunno, it was solid and easily exceeded my low expectations.

I can't wait for Superman and Spider-Man.

>The whole movie looked rushed: they rushed to write it, they
>rushed to make the special effects, and they wanted the movie
>to rush along so they rushed to the editing room to rush out
>any spare scenes that help us feel for the characters.
>
>Don't get me wrong, I dug it, and I'll recommend it to all my
>friends. Shit, I'll probably see it again. But without the
>writing team of the last movie and without Bryan Singer, the
>movie just becomes a comic book movie-- it loses everything
>that had been built up so wonderfully in the last one. It's no
>longer based in reality, but in a world where everything is
>summed up nicely with one-liners that we can put in trailers,
>and the end is tied off with a nice little bow.
>
>There were many issues brought up that I found interesting,
>that were promptly shooed off the screen. An additional 15
>minutes would've REALLY helped this film. And an additional
>year to fix the movie-- 4 months at the beginning of the
>process to fix the script, and 8 months at the end to fix the
>special effects (it looked like all the special effects budget
>went to the Golden Gate Bridge shot, and everything else
>suffered...even the jet, which looked real in the FIRST movie,
>looked like it flew off a made-for-SciFi movie).

I noticed that 2. And Colossus looked equally as bad in this 1 compared 2 the last 1

>Everyone go see it, cuz it seriously isn't that bad. It's got
>a lot of great moments to geek out about. But if you're
>looking for a movie that isn't just a comic book movie, but is
>also a damn fine piece of cinema in its own right, we're gonna
>need to wait for Superman Returns, the next work by the
>writers/director who brought us the greatest comic book movie
>ever, X2.

Easy chief. Batman Begins 2 get pissed when you mentioned that.

so we can get some more of human Mystique nahmean nahmsayin'

And did anyone else keep expecting Bill Duke to say "You know you done fucked up right?" hah

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>so we can get some more of human Mystique nahmean nahmsayin'
>
>And did anyone else keep expecting Bill Duke to say "You know
>you done fucked up right?" hah


Nah, but at some point I was waiting for Storm to say to Wolverine, "Love Shoulda brought your ass home last night".

>>so we can get some more of human Mystique nahmean
>nahmsayin'
>>
>>And did anyone else keep expecting Bill Duke to say "You
>know
>>you done fucked up right?" hah
>
>
>Nah, but at some point I was waiting for Storm to say to
>Wolverine, "Love Shoulda brought your ass home last night".

I was waitin 4 Kitty 2 go all Hard Candy on Juggs after he called her a bitch

I myself am not a 'fanboy' of the series as y'all would call it, but a bunch of my friends I went with were and they loved this movie. Get over the fact that its not consistent, they are two seperate beasts entirely (no pun intended). This movie was action-packed, fun, gripping, solid. The trilogy combined has to be one of my favorite trilogies together. Its rare that all three movies are memorable and enjoyable. I am very content with this movie.


Note: Biggest drawback was that there was lots of painfully forced dialogue.

is it just me or?

























i don't think Cyclops is dead...yet

i mean they didn't show him get killed by Jean so,

i dont think he's dead.




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like, if you ever read/watched any incarnation of the x-men, you gonna go see this movie. Seein how the above description involves virtually everyone under 35 in america, the studio was prolly like, just give'em a lotta explosions and fires and mutanty shit, and we will definitely make our money back.

Cuz the moment you stop and think about the plot of this shit, it falls apart like a sumbitch. It's another dumb loud summer flick. AND it's directed by Brett "talent? where?" ratner.

Knowing all this, me and two of my comic geek homeboys still went and saw it opening night anyway.

I, too, am a sheep. *sigh*

Somewhat enjoyable, one can argue it was more entertaining and better that X1 which was hampered by it being an orgin story and only having a 75 million dollar budget which limted it and made it feel smaller than then a X-men movie should be.

This movie didn't have the nuance or subtle touch of the 1st two but it was going for something different I guess. Also when you watch an adaption of anything whether it be comics, books, tv shows or whatever you can't expect them to remain true to the source because 1)they are usually trying to expand the audience 2)they are telling the story in a different meduim

You can't put the 40 yrs of X-men history in 3 movies so stop complaining about the obvious

They basically make these movie for money not as art so we just have to take it as it is plus I don't think X1 was that good I think X2 was a major improvment and really set the bar high for X3 which of coure with a diffrent creative team it couldn't quite match its predeccesor but it was decent/solid. Not as bad as some people want you to think and not as good as others would have you belive.

If you are are very anal about the X-men universe then don't see it but if you have nothing to do on a sat. and have money for the matinee you will probably enjoy it.

P.S. what is the "I'm the juggernaut bitch" reference from

P.P.S. who was Psylocke because I saw her name in the credits

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and that asian chick with the purple hair was supposed to be psylocke. they showed her later appearing out of nowhere from a wall or some shit (psylocked used to have the power where she could travel through shadows....they went with her lamest and least definitive power, but what the hey.)

Lol- so that was a refernece to this overdub, wow! So this is like a internet inside joke-lol.

>P.P.S. who was Psylocke because I saw her name in the credits

seriously? where?

>P.P.S. who was Psylocke because I saw her name in the credits

in Magneto's Brotherhood trio that inflitrates the Alcatraz base

I think she walked through the wall

so i'm checkin out all these sites, AICN, RottenTomatoes, MSN, and its all mixed reviews, either you love it or hate it. So i'm thinking i wanna go see it but i'm afraid its gonna be wack...So i cop something from my neighborhood weed man, roll up and head off to watch the movie..I get in the movie thinkin "I hope they dont fuck this up" and the movie starts...And It Turns Out The Movie Is The Fuckin Bomb!!!!. first off i'm sick of every one hatin on the director and the story, I mean come the fuck on In X-1 an X-2, they rarely even use there POWERS..Matter of fact fuck it, fuck the long review i was fixin to write, I'm a sum it up...This movie is most like the comic/cartoon think otherwise your playin yourself...Go See and if you dont know shit about the comics, you might think its the best movie of the summer!!!

She's horrible for that role. Angela Basset or someone like that would have set it off. I still don't under stand how they can go through the time to have complicated mutants like collosus, angel, and nightcrawler and not have Gambit in there. He would have added a lot of flavor to the film(s). I'm thinkin Colin Ferril or somethin.

If they had saved cyclops for the end, had angel & rouge out there, plus gambit, they would have at least been 10 deep and had a more interesting final battle. They were shorthanded like a mug.


But even with all the flaws, it was an entertaining movie.

concentrating on adding maybe only one major character such as gambit and/or beast would and retaining cyclops would have been better. i don't think that cyclops was ever really portrayed as well as he could have been, but a final battle with jean in the middle of it all could have provided that chance, and possibly increased the tension between he and wolverine. rogue's presence in the final battle was sorely missed. she could have really had a chance to shine.

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cyclops never really did anything within these films. i really just wanted one vicious danger room scenario where cyclops hits up EVERYTHING with the optic blast, like the intro to the cartoon or something. as much as everyone seems to hate him, visually seeing the optic blast happen was DOPE as fuck. that motherfucker was held to blasting open doors, and such.


>concentrating on adding maybe only one major character such
>as gambit and/or beast would and retaining cyclops would have
>been better. i don't think that cyclops was ever really
>portrayed as well as he could have been, but a final battle
>with jean in the middle of it all could have provided that
>chance, and possibly increased the tension between he and
>wolverine. rogue's presence in the final battle was sorely
>missed. she could have really had a chance to shine.

They asked Josh Hollaway (Sawyer) from Lost to be Gambit but he turned it down. He said Gambit was too similar to the Sawyer character.

But I don't know why they didn't have the character at all.

I'd rather not have him in the film than have him in a stupid throwaway storyline like Angel's. He needs to be a major storyline IMO. I think a Mr. Sinister type storyline would be interesting although I think you can just make him a mad scientist as opposed to an immortal.

agreed...Halle plays her like...hell Halle doesn't even play her like anything really, and thats the problem.

I always said they should have gone with Iman...(though when i said that after Xmen 1 i got plenty of disagreements from folks saying Iman was too old. To that i say bullshit...in the comic i felt like Storm was always older than the rest...almost like a mother to the group anyway so i think it would have worked...in the comic Storm was the tallest, most regal character...tall and statuesque...just like, i don't know, Iman maybe?. Oh yeah, in the comic, Storm was an African Queen...Iman? Straight from Africa baby...

but they didn't go with my first choice Iman.

My second choice? Another beautiful statuesque fine as all get out black woman who would have given the Storm character the regal royal powerful presence it deserves...Gina Torres. (Zoe from Firefly/Serenity)...

Well who knows, since Halle supposedly isn't doing any more X's, maybe Gina will take over and do it right. (Halle you're fine and all, but this one just aint for you darlin...Storm was one of my all time fave comic characters and she must be done right)

So no one appreciated the Storm versus Calisto battle?
no? no takers?

and yea, I would appreciated Halle in the role more if she at least attempted to have some kind of African accent

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I get so fucking tired of the Bassett argument.

Angela Bassett woulda looked completely ridiculous
with her eyes turning grey flying around fighting
18 year old Dominican girls.

She's far too regal for all that shit.

That'd be like asking Julia Roberts to play Jean Grey.

Halle Berry is cutesy, and cartoony, and sultry. She's perfect.

The character just sucked.

It wasn't Halle's fault.



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>I get so fucking tired of the Bassett argument.
>
>Angela Bassett woulda looked completely ridiculous
>with her eyes turning grey flying around fighting
>18 year old Dominican girls.
>
>She's far too regal for all that shit.
>
>That'd be like asking Julia Roberts to play Jean Grey.
>
>Halle Berry is cutesy, and cartoony, and sultry. She's
>perfect.
>
>The character just sucked.
>
>It wasn't Halle's fault.
>

while i agree with you that Angela Bassett wouldn't be my top choice for Storm either (personally I'd have picked Iman or Gina Torres)...but in my opinion Halle just didn't seem to put ANY effort into trying to PLAY the character Storm even remotely close to the regal-ness of the Storm we knew from the comics. Halle just played 'Halle in a superhero suit'...thats it. WONDERFUL to look at mind you...no one can argue that...but 'cutesy and cartoony..." ISN'T what the Storm character was supposed to be.

Storm is SUPPOSED to be regal & royal, statuesque, older, more mature & sophisticated than the other X-men, maybe even somewhat stand-offish in that regard...THATS what Storm is supposed to be. Sorry, but Halle didn't bring any of that. Whether or not its ALL Halles fault, i can't be sure (for all i know the Director may have asked Halle not to play Storm the way she 'really' was in the comics) but either way, wether it was from direction or lack of it, or lack of character research & character investment, or lazy acting...or a combination of all of those things...they did one of my favorite comic characters wrong ...and its really the only significant thing about the Xmen movie franchise that bothers me to any degree...but man does it bother me. They messed up Storm.

and if Halle wasn't so fine to look at, i'd be really REALLY pissed off ;)

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Though it was my least favorite in the trilogy, X-3 surprised the hell ouuta me! I don't mind if they sacrifice the original storyline as long as they can keep it interesting. My only real gripe was that too many characters didn't live up to their potential. Other than that, it was a very enjoyable summer flick. 4/5

>>4/5


slow your roll...3/5

-Why the fuck didnt rouge touch the jean and take her power? That would have gave rouge the ms marveolus type powers and shit she has in the comic books. Or she could have touched magneto but damn not nobody?

-Wolvie did his metal bones start to come apart at the end too? That woulndt grow back. It looked like some of it did start to vaporize. Magneto would have killed wolvi in the forest for real, and for a second i thought he was gonna ripe the metal from his bones.

-Would professor X have his powers in the new body? If mutation is just in the dna like the cure suggests then that new body wouldnt have it. He'd have his mind but no powers.

-Gambit! Why the fuck couldnt we get gambit up in this bitch!

-Juggernaut wasnt a mutant i had to explain that to my girl when i yelled that he wasnt out drunkly in the theater.

-Damn i thought some sentinals was gonna be in this shit wtf, just the dangerroom teezer?

-That Ice man, pyro fight scene was wack. Bobby should have went full iceman and then fought for a lil while or something.

-If its true about 2 solo magneto and wolverine spin offs i can clap to that.

Overall the film was aight for what it was as far as action, crappy story tho, wack chacter choices and fights, Superman returns is my choice for this summer.

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>-Why the fuck didnt rouge touch the jean and take her power?

You clearly didn't follow one of the primary storylines of the film huh. Rogue doesn't want to be a mutant. And I don't think it's even about her own powers and how she can't touch her man. She just wants to be normal.

>-Wolvie did his metal bones start to come apart at the end
>too?

I believe his flesh was ripping, not his bones.

>-Gambit! Why the fuck couldnt we get gambit up in this bitch!

Yeah, as if we need another storyline.

>-Damn i thought some sentinals was gonna be in this shit wtf,
>just the dangerroom teezer?

That would have been cool, but my knowledge of Sentinels comes only from the cartoon so I dont really know how they play into everything.

>-That Ice man, pyro fight scene was wack. Bobby should have
>went full iceman and then fought for a lil while or something.

I agree. It was built up nicely and then sorta fell flat. By then we'd seen so many long drawn out fights I was okay with there not being another, but this was the one to do it with.

>-If its true about 2 solo magneto and wolverine spin offs i
>can clap to that.

Magneto, cool. I don't care about Wolverine. We already know a lot about his backstory and I don't want to see him solo.

I saw here name in the credits.

same actress as last time i believe.

glad they went with kitty instead of jubes. i liked how kitty turned out.

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Second-highest grossing opening ever, behind Star Wars Episode III. Wow.

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it might have been better if they went with this 'cure' story line
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There was too much going on and not enough going on. It seemed like every time someone turned around, there was a person giving some big speech. And all of the speeches were corny and cliched. They had to explain too much which kept from any character moments or action sequences. Of course, the action scenes weren't all that interesting anyway. The Wolverine kicking ass one was cool but the rest were just kind of weak.

Then there was the problem with people not using their powers. Magneto's all about getting Jean Grey but then he never actually uses her for anything. He sends the pawns in to get wiped out when he could have just had the shockwave girl take 'em out. Apparently none of the class 1 mutants had the superpower of logic. Yo boss, you got this girl who claps shockwaves, this bitch that can turn people to dust... I'm a chill back here for a bit.

Angel was completely unnecessary. They already had too many stories going on as it was.

How does Zak Penn get work? His best script was his first, PCU. Inspector Gadget, Behind Enemy Lines, Elektra? Unless all of his scripts get jacked by directors, I don't see why he is getting so much work.

Still, the movie kept my attention and I liked seeing all the X-Men do their thing. I wouldn't say I didn't like it but at the same time I wouldn't say it wasn't a bad movie.

I excused a lot of these because they are just the kind of logic leaps you'd see in the comics... but don't think a lot of this stuff hasn't crossed my mind (and should have been crossing yours long before you asked yourself 'Where the fuck is GAMBIT?!')

>Then there was the problem with people not using their powers.
> Magneto's all about getting Jean Grey but then he never
>actually uses her for anything. He sends the pawns in to get
>wiped out when he could have just had the shockwave girl take
>'em out. Apparently none of the class 1 mutants had the
>superpower of logic. Yo boss, you got this girl who claps
>shockwaves, this bitch that can turn people to dust... I'm a
>chill back here for a bit.

Or how about the fact that he was SURROUNDED BY METAL? Okay, so the darts and the guns are plastic... buuuuuut the Alcatraz base still had plenty of metal, all he had to do was tip a few watchtowers over and he coulda called it a day.

>Angel was completely unnecessary. They already had too many
>stories going on as it was.

Angel, to me, was the corniest element of the entire movie. "No, Dad...it's what YOU want!!" *CRASH* FLAPFLAPFLAPFLAPFLAP

Jesus.

But the biggest logic gap of all was the conclusion. I fail to see how the Alcatraz fight could have possibly resulted in humans and mutants living in peace and harmony. If anything, it should have given the government even MORE reason to develop a cure. Unless the Golden Gate Bridge thing just left them all incredibly shook.

But again... I can't get mad because it's classic comic book logic. Super heroes solve problems by beating the shit out of them.

I sorta thought that they tryed too hard to make wolverine look cool and it came off as corny.It was sorta slow and took a little time for me to get into it.There are some holes to fill too.

the movie was good. stop hatin'. plain and simple. i am a "fanboy" (if by fanboy you mean someone who knows everything about comic book characters) and i loved it.

- no movie based on comic book is going to be accurate (with the exception of Sin City). no movie based on any book for that matter will be totally accurate

- these characters haven't been correct since X1, why start hatin now?

- since when have comic book characters ever stayed dead? they all die like 2 and 3 times at least.

- Gambit is very cool character, but would not really be a good character for a live action movie. we all love him to death, but really it's just his personality, which probably wouldn't come out right. and his power is really not all that great compared to some of the other characters to choose from.

- Rouge is not in the movie for cool powers. she in the movie to show the other aspect of being a mutant. she can't have physical contact with anyone. not every mutant is beautiful and has cool powers. and besides, how she gets her powers wouldn't fit into the movie.

- Juggernaut actually is a mutant apparently. and his real story would not have fit into the film well either. especially not the part about his and the Prof being related.

- hardly anyone mentioning the fact that Beast was dead on and AWESOME! clearly my favorite part.

of course there were things i didn't like. that's any movie. but all in all, this was a good, entertaining movie. definite buy! i can understand that some may not like it, but the level of hate is uncalled for. it wasn't nearly as bad as some people make it out to be.

Fantastic Four, Hulk....those would deserve the hate that you guys are dishing out for a film that is leaps and bounds better.

Some things just seemed odd/out of place to me:

1. Cyclops dead? Isn't he supposed to have some generation-X kids? If he died now well...
2. I thought that in the Marvel Universe Charles Xavier was the strongest telepath? How'd Jean rip the dude to pieces? Seemed kinda lame considering Professor X's power was like 3x stronger than hers.
3. The Juggernaut isn't a mutant...even if they never explained it in the movie, to have him run into a wall and get knocked out at the end of the movie as if he were a mutant was just lame and wrong...not even Jean, X, or Magneto could control Juggs...I mean, HE's THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH!
4. I didn't know the BEAST could kick ass like that...I mean he was on some WOLVIE type shit...I was like oh shitttttttttttttt...
5. In the comic book world...who was this "CURE" kid? Why at the end of the movie during the epic battle did he run past errrrrrrrrrrrrylast one of them mutant mofos and all them bammas had they powers?
6. Which brings me to 6...when he was in the room with BEAST, BEAST came close to him and saw his human hand...when he turned and walked away his mutant gene cameback...which made me think...if the most potent source of this kids "cure" was based on him actually being present then how in the fuck is a diluted needle going to permantly cure all mutants?
7. In the comic books, it stated that Bobby Drake actually had the potential to be a class 5 mutant (baddest mofo's around)...almost implying that Bobby could potentially deep freeze earth and shit...so why the fuck was his character so one-dimmensional?
8. Certain powers should be limited...technically, Magneto could kill anyone...everyone has metal in their body (except for Mr. Fantastic) so he could very easily pull the metal out of everyone and be done with the whole shit...Professor X could have just told everyone to go jump off a bridge and kill themselves...much like in X2...however, they didn't put a cap on Phoenix's power? they gave her the power of God basically...which was bad because it's too easy to pick apart and ridicule.
9. Collusus is supposed to be the strongest X-man...but he seemed rather weak in this movie. Also, I didn't know his power could be transfered to others (opening scene in the simulation room he put a metalic wrap around someone and himself).
10. Isn't Storm like a level 5 mutant...she can control the fucking earth's weather...lol...but she just used the shit to make little smog and lighting storms? weakaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasfuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

>9. Collusus is supposed to be the strongest X-man...but he
>seemed rather weak in this movie. Also, I didn't know his
>power could be transfered to others (opening scene in the
>simulation room he put a metalic wrap around someone and
>himself).

He touched her head and she became metal just like him. Thats why when he let go he was kinda dizzy/dazed.

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we have to stop expecting to match marvel universe to the Fox X-men movie franchise. It really is of its own entity. :)

From since X2 introduced the concept of the Phoenix without that whole She-ar (sp?) i gave up that expectation ... actually lets go back farther...

From since X1 introduced Wolvie + Sabertooth and Rogue + Mystique without elluding to their history i gave up

i'm just confused as someone who's read some comics and watched a few cartoons...

it just seems that for this to be the last X men movie, they were extra sloppy.

The whole professor X/Cyclops dying thing...Cyclops awakening Jean/Phoenix (he has enough power to awaken her from the dead but his power wasn't enough to save his own life?) Professor X is mentally the strongest mutant known...but he gets ripped to shreds by his student? Magneto can control metal (i.e. even the metal in peoples bodies) but he's scared of Phoenix and Xavier?

Though I liked the Juggernaut in the movie, I really didn't understand the importance of even having him involved in the whole movie...his role was rather whack...like they could've thrown in any other MUTANT and it'd been fine but you introduce a complex character (magic origins and all) to the storyline and not giving any background info or staying true to his character...that's almost like having them say Wolverine can fly or Cyclops could become invisible...just adding some extra random shit for fukks sake, ya know?

Who is the "cure"? Am I missing something? Was he a central figure in the comics? And ArchAngel...I thought he had other powers aside from flying? Like healing others or something like that?

in the shot where Jean, X, and Magneto are all in the same room together...Onslaught was the only mutant I knew to be unstoppable.

Also, the Beast character in the movie seemed to resemble more of the "Dark Beast" character to me...

Was the cure from "Leech" or "Wipeout"?

>you are trying to make too much sense of the sloppy mess.
>you will get a headache
>stop it

word

>Some things just seemed odd/out of place to me:
>
>1. Cyclops dead? Isn't he supposed to have some generation-X
>kids? If he died now well...

They never showed Cyclops being killed. The film alludes to this possibility, but it's reasonable to assume that Scott is still somehow alive since we actually didnt' see him die on-screen.

>2. I thought that in the Marvel Universe Charles Xavier was
>the strongest telepath? How'd Jean rip the dude to pieces?
>Seemed kinda lame considering Professor X's power was like 3x
>stronger than hers.

Charles is a stronger telepath, but Jean Grey has stronger telekinetic powers. She's also stronger overall, being one of just several Omega-class mutants. This is alluded to in the movie, although differently than in the comics.

>3. The Juggernaut isn't a mutant...even if they never
>explained it in the movie, to have him run into a wall and get
>knocked out at the end of the movie as if he were a mutant was
>just lame and wrong...not even Jean, X, or Magneto could
>control Juggs...I mean, HE's THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH!

Overall, nobody really gives that much of a shit about the Juggernaut. He's here for one reason only, to smash shit. His backstory and origin are inconsequential in that regard.

>4. I didn't know the BEAST could kick ass like that...I mean
>he was on some WOLVIE type shit...I was like oh
>shitttttttttttttt...

He does it in the comics all the time.

>5. In the comic book world...who was this "CURE" kid? Why at
>the end of the movie during the epic battle did he run past
>errrrrrrrrrrrrylast one of them mutant mofos and all them
>bammas had they powers?

His name was Leech, I think he was one of the Morlocks. And his leeching of powers doesn't extend more than just a few feet outside of his body, and it disappears after just a few seconds.

>6. Which brings me to 6...when he was in the room with BEAST,
>BEAST came close to him and saw his human hand...when he
>turned and walked away his mutant gene cameback...which made
>me think...if the most potent source of this kids "cure" was
>based on him actually being present then how in the fuck is a
>diluted needle going to permantly cure all mutants?

Did you see the final scene with Magneto at the park? Notice how he's able to move the metal chess piece? The cure was obviously not effective.

>7. In the comic books, it stated that Bobby Drake actually
>had the potential to be a class 5 mutant (baddest mofo's
>around)...almost implying that Bobby could potentially deep
>freeze earth and shit...so why the fuck was his character so
>one-dimmensional?

The key word is POTENTIAL. Also, in the movie he's still a teenager, and most mutants don't even find out about their mutant powers until they hit puberty. He still has a lot of physical and mental development to undergo before he can tap into the full potential of his power. The movie *does* allude to his potential however in the fight he has with Pyro. According to the movie, Pyro is a Level 3+ mutant, and in their fight scene Bobby is able to overpower him after it appears that Pyro has the upper hand.

>8. Certain powers should be limited...technically, Magneto
>could kill anyone...everyone has metal in their body (except
>for Mr. Fantastic) so he could very easily pull the metal out
>of everyone and be done with the whole shit...Professor X
>could have just told everyone to go jump off a bridge and kill
>themselves...much like in X2...however, they didn't put a cap
>on Phoenix's power? they gave her the power of God
>basically...which was bad because it's too easy to pick apart
>and ridicule.

I don't see what the problem is here.

>9. Collusus is supposed to be the strongest X-man...but he
>seemed rather weak in this movie. Also, I didn't know his
>power could be transfered to others (opening scene in the
>simulation room he put a metalic wrap around someone and
>himself).

Someone already explained what happened here.

>10. Isn't Storm like a level 5 mutant...she can control the
>fucking earth's weather...lol...but she just used the shit to
>make little smog and lighting storms?
>weakaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasfuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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>Some things just seemed odd/out of place to me:

>3. The Juggernaut isn't a mutant...even if they never
>explained it in the movie, to have him run into a wall and get
>knocked out at the end of the movie as if he were a mutant was
>just lame and wrong...not even Jean, X, or Magneto could
>control Juggs...I mean, HE's THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH!

good point, i was thinking that he was gonna break thru & say "i'm not mutant bitch!" but that didn't happen. ahh well

>4. I didn't know the BEAST could kick ass like that...I mean
>he was on some WOLVIE type shit...I was like oh
>shitttttttttttttt...

beast could always fight but just usually doesnt have to.

>5. In the comic book world...who was this "CURE" kid? Why at
>the end of the movie during the epic battle did he run past
>errrrrrrrrrrrrylast one of them mutant mofos and all them
>bammas had they powers?

this is why i think mags had strength again b/c i don't think the cure was a permanent cure anyway.

>7. In the comic books, it stated that Bobby Drake actually
>had the potential to be a class 5 mutant (baddest mofo's
>around)...almost implying that Bobby could potentially deep
>freeze earth and shit...so why the fuck was his character so
>one-dimmensional?

hollywood

>9. Collusus is supposed to be the strongest X-man...but he
>seemed rather weak in this movie. Also, I didn't know his
>power could be transfered to others (opening scene in the
>simulation room he put a metalic wrap around someone and
>himself).

it wasn't really transferred i think that kitty just phased into him

theres only a few comic movies that can be taken straight out of the books and be good. sin city being one of them.

everyones gotta look at it like this:

the comics are the comics

the movies are the movies

end of discussion, you can all go home now.

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when logan shanked phoenix, i sighed a sigh of relief. if anyone has read the old x-men books you'd know phoenix would ask logan to off her and he'd bitch out everytime.

my only beef with the movie was how corny halle was.

"i need cover"
"i can handle that"

*eyes turn white, looks up at the sky, changes weather*

they did that shit liek 7 times. it equaled about 30 minutes of the fuckin movie lol

just make it happen and stop making it so damn dramatic. we get it, you can control the weather.

if the Prof. did indeed jump into another dudes body, then technically he wouldn't be a mutant anymore and won't have any psychic powers.

even though there were some very cheezy moments. but overall there was too much hype about this movie and i think they kinda over-did the movie to impress those who dont even like or watch or read X-Men. Alot of anticipation only gets dissappointment. The plot about Phoenix was great but like i said there were some cheezy scenes.

I think X-2: United was the best one.

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such a let down, but fun nonetheless, i suppose.

The "New Sun" version of gambit...otherwise he'd be too much like Cyclops.

this movie was trash

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Although that's only half of the 210 million dollar budget. Still an amazing opening weekend. Uncanny even.

DaVinci code dropped 56% this weekend. Should be interesting if X-Men has any legs. Over the Hedge did very well, only dropping 29% this weekend.

I liked it just like everyone else said it wasn't perfect but it wasn't the hulk. Once again the choice to make certain characters useless sucked and no gambit hurt.
sidenote: I felt like the only person who was paying attention at my theater because everyone was clueless about what was going on after the credits.
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1) Fuck the hate..the movie was fuckin sick...True, they tried to squeeze a little too much in, but overall it was very well done...

2) Comic book geeks are foolish and ridiculous...People that nnitpick over the way comic books play out in the movies need to put down their childrens comic books, and go outside

....the ending was fucking whack. Hey, Magneto still has some power. Cheap!

And the bullshit scene after the credits was whack unless they are setting up Proteus a.k.a. Xavier's son for X4.

>....the ending was fucking whack. Hey, Magneto still has some
>power. Cheap!
>
>And the bullshit scene after the credits was whack unless they
>are setting up Proteus a.k.a. Xavier's son for X4.


I think Onslaught would be overkill though

Overall, a good film. Some comments:

1. A lot of y'all are MAD. To all the fanboys, please calm down and control yourselves. These films are not intended to perfectly, or even halfway, adapt the original comic book stories. The closing credits say "Based upon...", not "adapted into a word-by-word remake from..." Most films adapted from some from of literature differ greatly from their source material ("Psycho", "Imitation of Life", "Carrie", "Jurassic Park", most Disney movies, etc.)

2. The use of Phoenix Jean Grey was a little awkward; she spent much of the picture standing and twiddling her thumbs. Someone already suggested this, but fifteen minutes extra would have helped the movie in places (what the film lacked was a "big dramatic Phoenix scene" inbetween the two we already got. If you want the audience to really feel and remember something, show it to them three times. Technically, they DID do it three times, but we didn't see Jean's explosion at the lake).

3. Halle Berry did a much better acting job as Storm (and the problems with her hair styling were also solved). They skimped a bit on the quality for her lightning bolts; during her big fight scene with Calisto, her lightning bolts looked made Storm look less like she had the power of the weather and more like she had the power of The Glow.

(3a. Speaking of Storm and Calisto, didn't you just want one or the other to pull out some Vaseline and put it on their faces.)

4. Cyclops didn't die. (But even if he did...the character was virtually useless as far as the films are concerned).

5. Of COURSE the Cure is temporary; the power-muting kid they developed it from could only temporarily disable mutant powers.

6. Mystique turning on Magneto makes perfect sense. Wouldn't you have done the same. Sure, they may have been tight, but he left her high and dry.

7. The special effects were well done, in my humble animation-degree holding opinion (well, that's not quite humble, is it? Oh well.). I particularly liked Kelsey Grammer's Beast makeup, and the fact that the fleeing pedestrians on the Golden Gate bridge were actually running in double-speed if you paid attention. My only big gripe about the CG (other than the aformentioned Storm-as-Taimak thing)was that the Phoenix didn't have her customary comic-book aura, which would have looked great on the screen. It could have been explained as a manifestation of her aura instead of the whole parasitic cosmic-being ordeal from the comics, but perhaps it would have cost a bit too much for an admitedly unneccessary effect.

8. There were a few corny moments, the worst of which was Wolverine and Storm crying in front of Professor X's empty chair.

9. I actually like that almost every thing that happens in the film ties into the plot somehow. There were no scenes which were simply there for "wow factor" or humor alone, as often happens in "blockbuster" films.

10. Angel *was* wasted (or ,at least, overhyped). Also, his prop wings looked rather fake.

I tihnk he's as dead as dead can be, which isn't really that dead in comic books, but still...

I'm pretty sure his BODY isn't there though, since it was disintegrated in his standoff with Jean Grey.

>9. I actually like that almost every thing that happens in the
>film ties into the plot somehow. There were no scenes which
>were simply there for "wow factor" or humor alone, as often
>happens in "blockbuster" films.

what about the "i'm sad"..."LET'S GO ICE-SKATING!" scene

to go and get the Cure so that she could get as close to Iceman as Kitty Pride was getting.

>6. Mystique turning on Magneto makes perfect sense. Wouldn't
>you have done the same. Sure, they may have been tight, but he
>left her high and dry.

Are we sure that Mystique turned on Magneto or was it all a ruse? Remember when the soldiers got to the location, it was only Multiple Man there? They knew they were coming. Maybe Myst and Mags were fucking with them.

>7. The special effects were well done, in my humble
>animation-degree holding opinion (well, that's not quite
>humble, is it? Oh well.). I particularly liked Kelsey
>Grammer's Beast makeup, and the fact that the fleeing
>pedestrians on the Golden Gate bridge were actually running in
>double-speed if you paid attention. My only big gripe about
>the CG (other than the aformentioned Storm-as-Taimak thing)was
>that the Phoenix didn't have her customary comic-book aura,
>which would have looked great on the screen. It could have
>been explained as a manifestation of her aura instead of the
>whole parasitic cosmic-being ordeal from the comics, but
>perhaps it would have cost a bit too much for an admitedly
>unneccessary effect.

I think the best SFX were the ones used on Prof. X and Mags to make them appear 20 years younger. They looked great. (no homo)

>
>8. There were a few corny moments, the worst of which was
>Wolverine and Storm crying in front of Professor X's empty
>chair.


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That is, the acting sucked.

Even as a X-men fanboy, and knowing how many changes there were to the movie, I found X3 to be a pretty reasonable conclusion for a movie....umm, there are certain things you have to cut out or change if you wanna make a feature film.

However, my major gripe was how quickly paced the movie was, the major moments like Cyclops allegedly being dead or Prof Xavier, you really couldnt process those completely because you had to move on so quickly to other things. Angel was a fucking wasted character, along with Rogue imo....the former especially, all he did was save his father. I didnt expect this much of a focus on Kitty Pryde but her scences were actually really well done imo. I thought Pyro would do much more esp with how wild he is, at least I thought the face-off between him and Iceman would be more than what it was.

Pheonix.....I thought it would be so much more, but rather it was just thrown in there because she had to be in there from X2, I like how they explained Dark PHeonix to some extent though with the whole emotional thing(somewhat like the original) and even Xavier putting on the mental blocks, I wasnt sure how they were gonna be able to explain Pheonix in a reasonable time(without introducing a whole new people in the Shi'ar and etc lol).

I didnt understand the 2 ending sequences though if this really was the last X-men movie, what was the point? However, overall it wasnt bad when I blocked out how different it was from the stories I know and love(which is only reasonable considering the different mediums).

edit: I hated the one-liners.

>I didnt understand the 2 ending sequences though if this
>really was the last X-men movie, what was the point?


The sequence with Magneto showed him lamenting the death of Charles and then as he concentrates on the chess piece, we see that he is able to move it a little bit. So though his mastery of magnetism wasn't back, I just took this as an indication that you can not supress nature. The traditional homo sapiens looked at mutation as a disease rather than a part of evolution. If that is correct, I don't see how that is pointless though it is rather convenient. If anything, this is one of the few things that was fairly consistent with the comics.

The post-credits sequence indicates that Charles passed on his consciousness to a man that was brain dead. He spoke of this earlier in the movie while lecturing to his students. He asked if it was morally wrong to do so.

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>The post-credits sequence indicates that Charles passed on his
>consciousness to a man that was brain dead. He spoke of this
>earlier in the movie while lecturing to his students. He asked
>if it was morally wrong to do so.

It seems like the kinda thing he'd be averse to... but I'm sure when the Dark Phoenix is de-molecularizing your ass, it's easy to have a change of heart.

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i'm probably commiting a form of marvel-blasphemy, but i actually think the idea of Phoenix being a dual personality (as a result of the barriers set up in her mind) far more dramatic than The Phoenix Force creating a Jean Grey-like body for itself and "importing" part of her consciousness. i might change my mind on that, but, it seems to me that the idea that this was her own potential gifts busting out at the seams is more personal and can touch on a deeper human level.

granted, the original concept of Phoenix, with the Phoenix Force, and all that, is def higher on the "coolness" scale. but this way just struck me as more poignant.

my biggest problem with Phoenix in the movie was her role didn't quite deliver on the immense, almost demigod-like potential of the 1st-half build-up.


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because the only bad things she did seemed more like accidents

>i'm probably commiting a form of marvel-blasphemy, but i
>actually think the idea of Phoenix being a dual personality
>(as a result of the barriers set up in her mind) far more
>dramatic than The Phoenix Force creating a Jean Grey-like body
>for itself and "importing" part of her consciousness. i might
>change my mind on that, but, it seems to me that the idea that
>this was her own potential gifts busting out at the seams is
>more personal and can touch on a deeper human level.
>

true. that's why they used it like that. i like that aswell

"X-Men: The Last Stand" stormed to an estimated $107 million three-day opening, the largest ever for Memorial Day weekend and the fourth-biggest in box office history.


link:

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20060528/114885576000.html


WOW.

Interesting how they took 7 or 8 different storylines from the comics and sort of jumbled them all up. That was a ballsy move, but I think it paid off. I like that the movie established its own continuity independent from the comics. Don't get me wrong- I love the source material and all... just not to the point where I require the movie to recite 40 years of convoluted X-Men continuity to me verbatim. Been there, done that. Besides, Sin City already taught us that a comic book adaptation can be super-faithful to the source material and still not very good. That said, X-3 essentially felt very comic booky to me: Big, loud, action packed, and 100% cornball.

I mean, as trite and cliche as a lot of the scenes/dialogue/characters were, you can't tell me that stuff just as trite and cliche hasn't happened in the comics hundreds of times. Maybe I was just in a good mood that night, but for some reason I really appreciated X-3's complete and utter lack of shame. There just seemed to be something sort of authentic about it. The Stan Lee and Chris Claremont cameos early on in the movie should have been considered a warning shot.

X-Men is one of those superhero franchises that *can* lend itself to deep, philosophical discussion. But in the end, all I really wanted from this movie was to see Beast get nasty and Kitty Pryde call The Juggernaut a dickhead. Mission accomplished.

just your run of the mill cartoon beam stand off.

yawn.

that was it? seriously? wow.

i wanted a really good, climactic scene between them. they way it ended, that was great, with Ice finally showing a glimpse of the dominant nature his power COULD be.

if another movie was made, i would live to see it focus on Ice and Rogue a lot more, and make them both closer to the badasses they should be.

It looked kind of weird IMO. I liked the moments building up to it but yeah, just having them blast away at one another was pretty weak.

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Date: May 24, 2006

Source: IESB
Author: Robert Sanchez

IESB: Since we spoke last at ShoWest you said this was the last of the trilogy. So are you going to start a new trilogy?

Ratner: I don't think so. I don't think that there will be an 'X-Men IV.' I think that there'll be a 'Wolverine and a Magneto.'

IESB: Would you do 'Wolverine?'
Ratner: Yeah, oh yeah.

IESB: Have they talked to you about it?

Ratner: No. I'd love to do it. I'm hoping for it. Maybe Bryan can do that and I can go do 'Superman II.' Who knows (laughter)

IESB: You mentioned that sometimes have to be confrontational with the Studios but it looks like Fox on X-Men gave you full support to the point you got more money from Tom.

Ratner: Oh, one hundred percent. Tom Rothman was just amazing and supportive during the whole process and it's incredible how smart they are about this, especially this genre. They really get what this is supposed to be and at the end of the day there are some very controversial things that happen in this movie with the cure and Rogue and those decisions and at the end of the day Tom left it all to me. He said, 'This is your film. You have a voice and you can back this up.' There might be some controversy over it, but ultimately it's what I really believe. I think that it's a movie about a choice, but you see both sides. If you just see one side it's a let down at the end.

IESB: I heard that you filmed about three endings?

Ratner: I don't know about three. It was just alternate versions of it. It was cured. Not getting cured. I mean, Rogue not getting cured was an alternate version. There was another ending at the school and kind of a wrap up where Beast was going to be teaching the ethics class at the school.

IESB: Patrick Stewart said when he shot the final scene in the hospital that none of the cast knew about that.

Ratner: No one at the studio knew either . I shot it without putting it on the schedule. I didn't even want anyone to know about it.

IESB: Why did you choose to do that?

Ratner: It's a spoiler. I just wanted people to not - it's a wink. Death is irrelevant in this universe anyway. I got the idea when I read the script about the ethics class and where you put the consciousness of a person's body and I said, 'Oh, Professor X is such a beloved character so maybe he comes back.' So there is a whole other complex thing that real hardcore fans will get about him having a twin brother who died at birth. It's some crazy backstory shit going on about the brother who was brain dead and he grew up. He could show up in the 'Magneto' film or 'Wolverine.'

Source:http://www.iesb.net/fox2006/052306.php

> It's some crazy backstory shit going on about
>the brother who was brain dead and he grew up. He could show
>up in the 'Magneto' film or 'Wolverine.'

with "presumably" equal powers to him...somebody answer this for me, "how can someone with mental powers equivalent to X be brain dead?"...

Ratner: No. I'd love to do it. I'm hoping for it. Maybe Bryan can do that and I can go do 'Superman II.' Who knows (laughter)

Oh, hells NAW. Stay the HELL away from Superman, Ratner. He'd have Superman die ten minutes into the movie and be resurrected in the body of Paul Walker or some such shit.

im glad they showed the depth of wolverine at the end, while hinting at his immortal status.

Immortal? If i'm correct, isn't he like 115 years old or something like that...in Marvel universe they said his birthdate was around 1880 something?

but he could live for a very long time, since his body reginerates so quickly.

that and his bones are damn near indestructable.

he could live through almost anything

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he cannot die unless he is killed!

check the comics to peep me on this..because it also states in one comic he was once a horseman of apocalapyse way back when he was a pharoah.

If his bones are unbreakable and his skin/organs regenerate no matter what?

seems to me he'd be damn near impossible to kill...I could see slowing him down...well then again i guess he could be choked to death or drowned.

pump his body full of hot adamantium then allow him to drown lol

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Wolvie solo would be hot, especically if they started it out with some of the 'Origin" story or showed him murking Nazis in WWII. I personally would like to see him in Japan like the stories with Psylocke and Jubilee as his sidekicks.

Villian would have to be Sabretooth. BTW, was that Omega Red he was fighting in X3 that had the little husks coming out of his arm.

X3 was good for what it's worth. I read X-men from 1990 to 2003 and I'm satisfied with it as a fan. X2 was still the best but it was good to finally see Beast and Kitty get some shine.

Negatives - No Nightcrawler, Gambit, Jubilee didn't get any love for 3 movies in a row even though she was in all of them. Cyclops going out like that so early. They've found ways to write him out of the last 2 movies basically. I guess the only way his story would be interesting is if somehow Cable, Havok, Mr Sinister or Emma Frost were invloved and it wouldn't be worth getting into all that when the movies are obviously focused on Wolvie anyways.

.............

Cuz that's the 1st thing I thought of

first of all, if magneto had any common sense, he would have moved the bay bridge, not the golden gate. the bay bridge is a cable bridge, the golden gate is a suspension bridge, so the bay bridge would have been easier to move, and held up better.

also, at the end, they show the bridge being rebuilt. YEAH RIGHT! like bay area politicians would be competent enough to start rebuidling a bridge like that within days or weeks. it would take our incapable beaurocracy at least a decade just to hammer out a proposal.

get the fuck outta here.

rick

yeah, you criticizing a movie for being unrealistic, a movie about people who can fly, manipulate energy and create ice. Sure dude.

>first of all, if magneto had any common sense, he would have
>moved the bay bridge, not the golden gate. the bay bridge is
>a cable bridge, the golden gate is a suspension bridge, so the
>bay bridge would have been easier to move, and held up
>better.
>
>also, at the end, they show the bridge being rebuilt. YEAH
>RIGHT! like bay area politicians would be competent enough to
>start rebuidling a bridge like that within days or weeks. it
>would take our incapable beaurocracy at least a decade just to
>hammer out a proposal.
>
>get the fuck outta here.
>
>rick

rick

damn

I hate Cyclops but he went out like a bitch

Angel was wasted. All he did was save his asshole dad

Phoenix was underused. They kept talking about how she was the strongest mutant and they only got to see it twice

and I was insulted that they took Nightcrawler out without any explanation

I have other complaints but I will not see another X-Men movie with Ratner directing.

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I liked it. Not as much as the 2nd but it was still a good movie.
Some things about the entire trilogy that were disapointing.
1. Rogue, Scott Summers, and Storm never really got into any action sceens. Everytime Storm would get into a fight she would get HER ASS kicked. Rogue never did anything threw the entire trilogy that was a major let down. I have been waiting for her to fly forever now.
2. Wolverine was way to tame in X3, if they were so persistant to kill off Scott they should of had beast take over as the sensitive one.

My Theory is that the character was killed off so early, so he could begin filming Superman Returns.

The cure seems to work, Mystique was for sure changed!

Good Movie but I would of liked it to be a bit darker.
Best things
Beast was dead on, and the Phoenix not switching back to the GOOD GUYS was much appreciated by me!

i thought the movie was really dope...but after reading most of this im starting to realise it alot of stuff i didnt before. Still think it was good but it had alot more potential.

in a good way. i can tell already that the "cure" is not permanent.

how u put angel in the movie before gambit is beyond me
the way J-naut got taken out was trash. didn't he have on his helmet, too?

and why even wear the helmet? and they just happened to keep the helmet with him?

i got so tired of storm getting punked. she's one of the most powerful x-men

i wanted sabretooth back

more later.




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and why didn't they show more? i want to hear some of sam jack's soon to be infamous lines.

rick

>and why didn't they show more? i want to hear some of sam
>jack's soon to be infamous lines.
>
>rick

Jeah that was the ultimate definition of a teaser. Not quite blue ball inducing but close.

I think some of ya'll r seriously smokin some strong stuff cuz that movie was HOT!!
On da real, I really think Bret Ratner woulda done a better job had he done the whole trilogy...if you think about it, alot of flack comes from all the stupid decisions FOX and Singer made to begin with:

-Cyclops being killed off early: Thanks to Singer Cyke was a frucking waste of screen time. We was a whiney pussy who did no leading whatsoever and who's power they didn't even show the true strengths of. Sure, they could've wrote a script that has him doing alot more in X3 and with him being an integral part of the ending with Pheonix, but he'd rather go be Louis Lane's hubby in Superman Returns (also thanks to Singer wooing him ...thanks Bryan), so fuck him.
Plus...they didn't show him die...so he ain't gone. Jean probably just put him in the same type of telekinetic cacoon she was in and put his ass in the water...to save us all from his sucky whining.

-Pheonix: I personally thought they handled that really well. Of course it woulda been hot to see it stretched over more than 1 movie, but I really REALLY liked their explanation of it and how they executed it. PHEONIX WAS SCARY AS CRAP! I was in awe at how badass and powerful she was....more scary than homegirl from Exorcist. Once again, had Singer threw in more touches of Jean's alter ego in the previous 2 then it woulda felt better.
I'm glad Pheonix wasn't an alien entity, I'm glad they didn't go into space and that she didn't destroy a whole planet...cuz all that woulda been real comicbook-y and cheesy.

I could go on and on, but I collected the comics, X-Men is my FAVORITE comic franchise and I loved it.
I initially liked X1, loved X2, and I now think those first 2 were way worse than this one. Just think what we would be getting had this been the 1st or 2nd X movie??

If ya'll are angry cuz this is the last one...then you're also stupid. Yeah, this is the last X Movie....just like Jordan was quitting B-Ball when he retired the 1st time...don't believe the hype my peeps. At the very least they're gonna re-boot the whole franchise but we WILL see more X-Men movies in a few years.

The cure was temporary
Cyke ain't dead
Prof X is in a different body
and Pheonix will rise from the dead

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I look into my daughter's eyes,
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1. Of course it was too short. Hopefully the DVD will have a longer cut.
2. HOW CAN YOU HAVE JUGGERNAUT AND COLOSSUS AND NOT HAVE THEM FIGHT EACHOTHER?!?!? That's unforgivable to me.
3. Colossus was way underused, as well as Angel.
4. I liked how they did Rogue's story but I would've loved to have seen her get her shine on (I understood about her taking the cure, but she shoulda been on the field with the team, and it woulda been dope to see a scene with her taking a bit of everyone's power to kick major ass...then just show her pocket one of the cure darts-problem solved!)
5. Iceman vs. Pyro was really underwhelming. Pyro can control fire so I was waiting to see him create some fire monster or sumthin, and the fight could've been way more creative and grand.
6. Speaking of Pyro, did he eat an evil samich or somthing?? WHy was he so damn angry and evil? Bad character writing IMHO
7. WHO DECIDED NOT TO INCLUDE NIGHTCRAWLER?? His character was awesome and had alot of heart, and his powers and fighting skills fit in with the movies really well. Guess they just got tired of blue mutants. But he really shoulda been in this movie.

Any other gripes had to do with the whole trilogy and thier spin on the franchise really. Overall thoug I thought it was X-cellent.

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I look into my daughter's eyes,
and realize
imma learn through her,
The Messiah
might even return through her,
if imma do it,
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>2. HOW CAN YOU HAVE JUGGERNAUT AND COLOSSUS AND NOT HAVE THEM
>FIGHT EACHOTHER?!?!? That's unforgivable to me.

Yeah that was wack. But it was cool 2 see lil Kitty fuck him up a few times

>3. Colossus was way underused, as well as Angel.

And his CGI was bammer compared 2 the last flick

>5. Iceman vs. Pyro was really underwhelming. Pyro can control
>fire so I was waiting to see him create some fire monster or
>sumthin, and the fight could've been way more creative and
>grand.

1 of my biggest gripes. Expected so much more from that fight

>6. Speaking of Pyro, did he eat an evil samich or somthing??
>WHy was he so damn angry and evil?

He showed signs of it last flick. Now that he's Magneto's right hand man he fully unleashed it.

>I think some of ya'll r seriously smokin some strong stuff
>cuz that movie was HOT!!
>On da real, I really think Bret Ratner woulda done a better
>job had he done the whole trilogy

Zoiks

...if you think about it,
>alot of flack comes from all the stupid decisions FOX and
>Singer made to begin with:

Double zoiks

>-Cyclops being killed off early: Thanks to Singer Cyke was a
>frucking waste of screen time. We was a whiney pussy who did
>no leading whatsoever and who's power they didn't even show
>the true strengths of. Sure, they could've wrote a script that
>has him doing alot more in X3 and with him being an integral
>part of the ending with Pheonix, but he'd rather go be Louis
>Lane's hubby in Superman Returns (also thanks to Singer wooing
>him ...thanks Bryan), so fuck him.
>Plus...they didn't show him die...so he ain't gone. Jean
>probably just put him in the same type of telekinetic cacoon
>she was in and put his ass in the water...to save us all from
>his sucky whining.

Even w/ his sucky whining he was still 1 of the better actors in the franchise.

>-Pheonix: I personally thought they handled that really well.
>Of course it woulda been hot to see it stretched over more
>than 1 movie, but I really REALLY liked their explanation of
>it and how they executed it. PHEONIX WAS SCARY AS CRAP! I was
>in awe at how badass and powerful she was....more scary than
>homegirl from Exorcist. Once again, had Singer threw in more
>touches of Jean's alter ego in the previous 2 then it woulda
>felt better.
>I'm glad Pheonix wasn't an alien entity, I'm glad they didn't
>go into space and that she didn't destroy a whole planet...cuz
>all that woulda been real comicbook-y and cheesy.
>
>I could go on and on, but I collected the comics, X-Men is my
>FAVORITE comic franchise and I loved it.
>I initially liked X1, loved X2, and I now think those first 2
>were way worse than this one.

Triple zoiks

Just think what we would be
>getting had this been the 1st or 2nd X movie??

You tell me

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definitely doesn't deserve all this hate. i'd say the first 2 3rds of the flic was great stuff. the final stretch was considerably weaker, but still fun.

after the first half of the movie, i had become spoiled by my own imagination of what Phoenix would do. i loved the more poignant personal approach to Phoenix' origins (fanboys can throw tomatoes at me, i don't care, all the better for testicular health -- tomatoes that is). but i was expecting some serious transcending, emotional universe-twisting shit to happen ...like, the shit that happened at her home felt more powerful than the shit she did later on.

but either way

Phoenix was the shit. and i can only imagine the wonderful way Cyclops went out. mm mmm mmm!

Beast was also the shit. Wow. Perfect casting.

Angel felt somewhat pointless, aside from his role in illustrating the anguish of some young mutants, which was a good thing to show. Rogue's role was absolutely fine to me. Her being a close-to-home example of the whole moral dillema...was far more useful to the movie than if she just ran around with the X-Men, sucking people's powers up.

All in all, they might have tried cramming too many different things in (Phoenix prolly needed her own plot to really come off right)...

but i'd still watch it again. i thoroughly enjoyed it.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Professor_X

people here have been wondering if he'd be able to still have his powers if he went into another body, and...simply IF he went into another body.

i'm not a harcore x-men head (used to follow casually alongside my fanatic friend as a youngster), so correct me if i'm totally off.

but if you scroll down to the end of Professor X bio, it says:

"With reality restored, Xavier was still missing and the X-Men were unable to locate him with Cerebra. Xavier was eventually found on Muir Island, where it was revealed he is able to walk again, but has lost his mutant powers." - Marvel.com

Glad I seented it with a dime and could look at her
thighs during all the annoying Jean Grey scenes.

Magneto is cool.

The rest of the movie sucked for the most part.

Wolverine just sucks in General.

The Jean Grey hook sucked. 90% of the movie
could have gone on without any of that shit.
that entire diversion was boring and stupid.
Wasn't explained well, didn't make any fucking
sense, was just retarded overall.


Beast was cool. One of the cooler characters.
Shoulda focused on him more.


Pyro looks like an extra from '21 Jumpstreet'.


Storm sucked. Her powers sound cool on paper but are
manifested retarded-ly on film. That Dominican
girl whooped on her ass. Pathetic for the eventual
leader of the X-Men. I like Halle though.
Her character was just bad.


Angel sucked. I laughed out loud
during hat scene when he
flexed and his wings popped out. Gayness.


I don't know what to think about Iceman. He has no
personality. He's a teenage whiteboy who freezes
things and likes mutant coochy of different powers.
Good for him.


Juggernaut sucked. He sounded like Gimli from
Lord of the Rings. He sucked.


Kitty Pride was str8. They didn't fuck that up,
but her jub was mostly to be 14 years old, not ugly
and white.


Rogue made stupid faces. That bitch nose too big. She's
ugly and her character sucked.


Mystique was cool, again.


The concept was str8.

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>Glad I seented it with a dime and could look at her
>thighs during all the annoying Jean Grey scenes.

"yo I'm not a comic geek like yall so let me throw in this disclaimer before I give you me detailed analysis"

I see you

>"yo I'm not a comic geek like yall so let me throw in this
>disclaimer before I give you me detailed analysis"

>I see you

I actually saw the movie with a dime, with nice thighs that I stared at during the boring Jean Gray scenes.

It is quite possible.

She was that fly, and the Jean Gray scenes were that bad.

but you know

this is OKP

>The Jean Grey hook sucked. 90% of the movie
>could have gone on without any of that shit.
>that entire diversion was boring and stupid.
>Wasn't explained well, didn't make any fucking
>sense, was just retarded overall.

Yeah I wanted to see her do some more ill shit...


>Pyro looks like an extra from '21 Jumpstreet'.

LMAO YES!

>
>
>Storm sucked. Her powers sound cool on paper but are
>manifested retarded-ly on film. That Dominican
>girl whooped on her ass. Pathetic for the eventual
>leader of the X-Men. I like Halle though.
>Her character was just bad.

I hate that she constantly gets her ass beat.

>
>
>Angel sucked. I laughed out loud
>during hat scene when he
>flexed and his wings popped out. Gayness.

Yeah that shit was wild ghey...

>
>
>I don't know what to think about Iceman. He has no
>personality. He's a teenage whiteboy who freezes
>things and likes mutant coochy of different powers.
>Good for him.

Yep

>
>
>Juggernaut sucked. He sounded like Gimli from
>Lord of the Rings. He sucked.

Gimli LMAO yes!


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Ratner was against the idea of killing off Xavier. I read an article last week stating that he didn't even tell the producers about the post-credit scene until after he had already shot it and put it into the final cut. It was pretty much too late to get rid of it. Pretty smart.

Sounds like Fox are the ones most of y'all should be mad at.

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X-MEN: THE LAST STAND: ARE THEY REALLY DEAD?

(Warning: This story reveals major details and the ending of the film and is geared only for readers who have seen the movie.)

NEW YORK -- So did Cyclops really die in X-Men: The Last Stand? Did Professor Xavier? Did Jean Grey?

It all depends on who you ask -- or what you've seen. The filmmakers didn't tie everything up, that's for sure.

Here's a look at the characters' fates:

* When last on screen, Cyclops was at Alkali Lake, reunited with Jean Grey in a kiss that apparently finished with the Phoenix side of her personality disintegrating him. When Storm and Wolverine reach the scene, all they find is Scott's glasses floating in space.

Back at the X-infirmary, Jean admits to Wolverine that she "killed someone" -- without actually naming Scott -- before going into Phoenix mode and leaving the mansion.

And at the end of the film, there's a tombstone with Scott Summers' name on it.

But did Cyclops really die?

James Marsden, who played the character in all three X-Men films, isn't 100 percent certain.

"I was presented with a concept for the third film. With that presentation came the fact that Scott meets his demise," Marsden said. "But also with the idea, nobody really dies in the X-Men universe.

"So there's a sort of feeling we can do these movies forever with the same characters. So we'll see."

* Professor Xavier, trying to save Jean from the Phoenix, is disintegrated. But if you stick around at the end of the closing credits, you'll discover in an added scene where Xavier has apparently occupied the body or mind of a brain-dead patient of Moira MacTaggart at Muir Island.

Xavier apparently moved his mind before Jean distinegrated his body. Actor Patrick Stewart noted that Charles has had a rough go of it in all three X-films.

"I've disappeared from massive sections of these movies for one obvious reason, you cannot put Xavier in the middle of an action sequence," Stewart said. "So the moment they start building to that, they've got to find a way of dumping him. And this time they found a very effective way of doing it."

Before filming began, Stewart said he had a conversation with 20th Century Fox head Tom Rothman.

"We talked about, what would be the implication about Xavier not making it to the end of the movie?" Stewart said. "What if we lost Xavier? What would this mean?

"And if we were to do that, in what way might he somehow, be cold frozen, so we could bring him back if we want to?"

Stewart said those weren't really "creative conversations." He had those with director Brett Ratner, who, after being brought aboard, talked about with Xavier's demise in his first phone conversation with Stewart.

"He said," Stewart recounted, "'I told them they're crazy. They can't kill you off. It's a mad idea. How can you kill off Professor Xavier? He is the X-Men. It's not going to happen. We're going to find some exciting things to do.'

"Of course, all this, for me, was just words in the air because, along with a lot others, we haven't seen any pages."

It was suggested to Stewart that at least the filmmakers gave Xavier the last word. "Indeed, they do," he said.

* And finally, Jean Grey seems to the most likely to be really be dead, since was she gutted by Wolverine and passes in his arms.

But wasn't she supposed to be dead at the end of X2?

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Why doesn't Magneto just rip his skeleton right off of him?

Because then he wouldn't be in the movie anymore!!!!!
DUH.

i could be wrong, tho. i think he still has a "thing" for x-men cause they are mutants

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because he is always off doing his own thing. in one of the comics, i believe magneto did get so pissed once, that he ripped the adamantium out of wolverine's body to reveal that he had bone claws.



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I can't wait to see the next one.

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things I liked:

- I liked how they portrayed Kitty Pryde
- Kelsey nailed The Beast and the fighting came off well
- on that note, "oh my stars and garters" was perfectly timed
- Magneto moving Wolverine "Fatal Attractions" style was dope

things I disliked:

- half the CGI looked bleh
- Phoenix and Rogue stories were pretty boring and went nowhere
- Juggernaut's and Magneto's costumes are terrible
- Quiksilver instead of Callisto would've been better
- some *really* cliche writing

overall: **1/2

>things I liked:
>
>- I liked how they portrayed Kitty Pryde

She's a good actress & fuck what O_E said cuz she's cute as hell in real life

>things I disliked:
>
>- half the CGI looked bleh
tru

>- Juggernaut's and Magneto's costumes are terrible

tru
>- Quiksilver instead of Callisto would've been better

As long as Dania Ramirez still got the role

>She's a good actress & fuck what O_E said cuz she's cute as
>hell in real life

I wouldn't have called her ugly, but then again I didn't see X-Men III with a PR dime next to me

Yeah I like campy popcorn flicks. Seriously IMO X3 was better than X and X2. X2 really didn't impress me much. It was toooo long. I hope they don't ever bring back the born again teleporter. That guy was corny as hell. I hope the cure does not work. Bring Magneto and Mystique back. Without them Xmen 4 would really be a waste. I was kinda disappointed Jean Grey was killed off. Her alter ego, the Phoenix, should have been introduced in the first movie. I think that could have made the first two movies more interesting. I heard Wolverine is getting a spin off. Sad. He is not the most interesting character.

couldnt even get one damn pose with the fist.

-that juggernaut bitch line was whatever. theyve obviously been watching too much youtube and chappelle. kitty's "dickhead" line was better.

- really liked the "training room" scene (sorry comic diehards, the name isnt coming to me at the moment) but it reminded me of war of the worlds too much.

-who was that bitch fighting storm again? she was fine.

-i'm hella baycentric so him fucking up the golden gate bridge was not cool...like theyd start reconstruction on the bridge that quick

-that movie was TOO hollywood. as in, that model from the jay-z "change clothes" video playing the mutant with "shockwave" powers. she had more camera time than cyclops and she was acting like she was on the runway the WHOLE time.

-my 6 year old nephew wasnt even really feeling it although he loved the nacho libre trailer.

The same chick who was in "She Hate Me." The girlfriend of the main character's ex-girlfriend. Her voice doesn't change for ish.

>The same chick who was in "She Hate Me." The girlfriend of
>the main character's ex-girlfriend. Her voice doesn't change
>for ish.

Dawg she could sound like Barry White & I'd still be sprung

Second it was pretty good. Lame ass writing/acting in parts, but eh...what can ya do. Good Sunday matinee faire...I enjoyed most of it. Halle was terrible.

Halle was terrible.
Disagree. Storm is very one dimensional. The movie's storylines are not well developed and her character suffers greatly.

dressed like the "punks" out of Police Academy?

Great movie.

Glad I ignored all the naysayers in this post.

Too much going on in this movie and directed in such a manner your never given enough time to care about this. A few sidenotes:


I think this was Stan Lee's funniest cameo ive ever seen...

The explanation for Phoenix/Jean was retarded. They shoulda called her PMS Bitch instead...and they dont really give you a idea of whats going on in her head, or what amibitons The Phoenix really had. For now I woulda pefered to seen a more comic book approach on her...

The explanation for Leech/The Cure made no sense. How can you extract a mutants power and make it into a cure? Especially when his powers work at a short range...and they shoulda used him to stop Jean.

Juggernaught sounded like a giant scotish/british/austrilain guy...and I found it hard to believe that he woulda gotten knocked out so easily when he ran into the wall. Though that bitch line was funny...

I thought the comics made Cyclops incompetent at times...this movie took the cake on that. I would give ten thousand dollars if someone explained his death in the next movie by Jean fucking him till she broke his penis off...

Killing Professor Xavier like that was booty. Not because they shouldnt, but Xavier is supposed to be able to wage mental war with Jean...it woulda made a more interesting battle in the end if he was there.

Mystique was wasted, but it was worth seeing Rebecca lying on the ground like that...she should remain human. And im thankful they havent tried to tied her to Nightcrawler or Rogue...

Speaking of Rouge...what a sap. They actually had good usage of her in the movie, and just waste it on moments of her pouting and running off to be normal. They made her into the dumb, typical teenager.

Beast was the only character I really liked, and had a interesting personality...almost matched up to his comic book one. I woulda liked to seen more reaction from seeing his hand turn to normal, but as it is he was the best character in the movie.

Kitty was again, meh. I understand shes a child and is supposed to be innocent, but you never see her affection for Iceman (it shoulda been Colossus so he coulda gotten more time) develop. I expected her to do what she did cause she cant fight, but maybe more creative usage of her powers please...

Angel was just plain dumb...really. I think they woulda had the same effect with him if they used a real bird for his scenes and to do his lines...

Pyro was aight and Iceman was dumb. That final battle between then was retarded...shoulda drawn it out longer. Pyro didnt make a competent sidekick to Magneto, and Iceman didnt convince me he had game like that to kick to Rogue and Shadowcat.

Magneto was wasted...that whole Golden Gate Bridge stunt was a waste of time. He should ripped out the skeleton of Wolverine, after all the times hes pestered him...and that jitter of his pawn was dumb, camera was shooken like someone kicked the table and the pawn moved.

Wolverine was...meh. His fight scenes always came off as borderline cheesy, but this one easily showed how bad they done him. And the Phoenix coulda easily scrubbed him despite his healing factor...funny how his pants never burned off.

Storm just made me downright wanna kick my chair at times. The lack fo character and maturty Halle Berry fails to shows in her makes me wonder why Charles would appoint her as a leader. Shes supposed to be tough and courageous, not sassy and gettin smacked down by Calisto.

That was a odd, but appealing choice for Calisto. I did like how she used her powers and gained a decent role in the Brotherhood...it was always a pleasure seeing Daina, I mean Calistio, in the film.

Mulitiple Man...wasted for one stupid scene. Ditto for Jubilee, Psylocke, Colossus, Siren, Moria, Omega Red, etc. Need I go on?


They shoulda marketed this as a comedy cause it was more funny then interesting....since I liked a couple of elements I give this a 2/5

Phoenix was just a Carrie2k.

all three of em were horrible

i am a fan of the comic book not the movies but this left me peeve and ready to leave...

i look to my hallogram Storm card hoping this movie just blows away...

At least?

Well, Im not too sure I even remember the scores of the 3 that much (already, i know, haah). But yea, one of the things I was pleasantly surprised of was the score, nice.

And then getting to into the whole film, I thought it was definitely a good peice of filmmaking, possibly better than what I expected. And I didnt expect too much. Thats what peoples expectations should be if theres a different director and writer 3rd time around. And that said, I was entertained, without having to suspend my belief TOO much, or jus leaving flat out disappointed. Yes there were some unnecesary moments, some storylines that could have been fleshed out more, but.. It pretty much delivered the goods, pretty much what it was stating it would, jus entertain us and wrapping up the trilogy on not a bad note.



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anyways..

lol.

Not perfect but A LOT better than what I was expecting.


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Just saw it tonight, wanted to see what the comments were on it, found it 5 pages or so deep.

1. While I didn't trust Xavier's "death" I didn't realize it was some after credit shit to be explained. That really pisses me the fuck off. How does one know to hang around for that unless they just decide to chill?

2. For all of you arguing about storyline accuracy, you're taking issue with a movie that is a COMIC BOOK adaptation? a COMIC BOOK, where people live and die and live over again and die etc etc over and over? where the writers change and storylines totally go in a different direction, even if they overlap or directly contradict previous ones? COME THE FUCK ON.

3. Hulk was a good movie. Fuck y'all.

4. Nitpicking at the casting selectively is a joke. Almost everyone rags on hallie as storm (by the way she DID have an accent in at least one of the previous films) but does anyone point out the fact that hugh jackman is a FOOT TALLER than wolverine? or that scott summers looks like a college freshman and more like "the graduate" when paired with jean?

5. X-2 was very good, but it doesn't hit "greatest comic book movie ever." it was not impeccable, the action/utilization of powers was lacking some, too much dialogue

6. X-3 was incredible. The way the stakes were raised with the big three of mutantville dying, definitely placed more gravity on what was going on. The fighting scenes were off the hook and much more demonstrating of powers.
This movie had a LOT going on, it could have used another 45 minutes, I think a lot of these complaints on here wouldn't exist, because it would have had time to tie a lot of things up. and yes there were clearly some flaws in this picture but not enough to prevent it from being thoroughly enjoyable.

7. when i read and see the various responses and who wrote them, i am amused by the ability of people to speak out of their mouth and arse at once, as they shit on this movie while extolling the virtues of a bunch of other cinematic sewage. i mean just CLASSIC.

8. You motherfuckers would criticize the second coming of Jesus Christ on some "he should have had a theme song and worn some hotter gear" type shit.