You know that they're there.

You overlook them cause...well, the overwhelming majority of the film is good, great, or fantastic.

No film is perfect...no film.

So, on with it.

when sonny is beating up carlo in the godfather... he throws a fake punch thats off like a mother... and carlo reacts like he's been hit... it really bothers me, but the godfather is the best movie ever, so... eh.

when michael is dancing with kay and asks "how's the baby" and she says "sleeping inside me"
ok, i get it, kay's pregnant... couldnt you think of a better way to tell us, coppola?

it's only two lines, but it always felt so weak and forced....

...do we even need to go there?

with a garbage can. Unscripted.


Understatement of Training Camp '05

“He’s going through an emotional thing,” tight end L.J. Smith said.

>No film is perfect...no film.

Diary of a Country Priest.

>>No film is perfect...no film.
>
>Diary of a Country Priest.
>

Rear Window

Grace Kelly forgets to take her clothes off.

Riding bikes to "Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head"

Mech

Ray Liotta mentioned his age early in the movie, it was something ridiculous like early 20's.. I just found that hard to believe

i'll admit that's the weakest link in goodfellas, but seriously, of all stretched-ages in movies they did a good job, especially with pesci. i've watched goodfellas enough times to look for flaws.

slightly off the subject, ray liotta impressed me by pulling it off as sinatra in the made-for-cable movie "rat pack"

cracked me up that they were both supposed to be the same age. Liotta looked too old as it is.

if you wanna get even pickier, the year was 1963, and they're leaning on a 65 impala

not that any of that really bothers me though

21...Liotta probably didn't look 21 when he WAS 21.

the folksy kinship of pacino/deniro, following pacino's fatal shots and deniro's death.

between the last minute handclasp and their images casting nimble lengthy shadows across the airstrip, i mistook the closing for a bollywood flick.

shoulda stopped when deniro finally leaves his woman w/ pacino chasing him, the two disappearing into the crowd on some neverending cycle sh:t.


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sure it's theatrical, but the whole premise of the movie is based on how similar the two characters are on their respective sides of the law, and the respect they have for one another.

>sure it's theatrical, but the whole premise of the movie is
>based on how similar the two characters are on their
>respective sides of the law, and the respect they have for one
>another.

Yeah the worst part of Heat & every other Mann film is that he doesnt edit enough of the slow shit out. Lets certain (normally boring)scenes go on far 2 long. The worse example of this is in Ali when Will is running through the jungle.

otherwise it would have been damn near perfect

>otherwise it would have been damn near perfect

^^^hyperbole^^^^

From the first time I sw and the countless times since, I disliked intently the rooftop scene when Max reveal blum's affair to Mrs. Blum.

As a fan of the movie, it was the only untrue and uncharacteristically "mean" moment from Max and I just didn't like seeing him that way. As a fan of film, the whole offering her of a sandwich and juice just pushed the quirky offbeat shtick too far.

That is my ONLY complaint with that movie.

In TRT I have 2:

The scene when Baumer picks up Margo at the buststation and the sailors walk in unison behind in slow motion. Pushed the stylization of the film WAAAYYY too far.

The other one, and one that has sort of grown on me, is the scene with Margo and Eli on that bridge. It was forced and screamed of "what a great location with great camera possibilities", even though its supposed to be a clandestine secret meeting.

>The scene when Baumer picks up Margo at the buststation and
>the sailors walk in unison behind in slow motion. Pushed the
>stylization of the film WAAAYYY too far.

I can see where you're coming from though.

>From the first time I sw and the countless times since, I
>disliked intently the rooftop scene when Max reveal blum's
>affair to Mrs. Blum.
>
>As a fan of the movie, it was the only untrue and
>uncharacteristically "mean" moment from Max and I just didn't
>like seeing him that way. As a fan of film, the whole offering
>her of a sandwich and juice just pushed the quirky offbeat
>shtick too far.

the way I see it it's supposed to be uncharacteristic, in that it's all about the ridiculous, immature, unexpected, things a man will do when he's in love. Max being wise beyond his years he's still just a kid. Mr Blume being in his 40s he's still a kid as well (runnin over bikes and shit). you wanna talk about mean, look how he treated his dad.

>the way I see it it's supposed to be uncharacteristic, in that
>it's all about the ridiculous, immature, unexpected, things a
>man will do when he's in love. Max being wise beyond his years
>he's still just a kid. Mr Blume being in his 40s he's still a
>kid as well (runnin over bikes and shit).

I agree with you in that being the crux of their relationship throughout the (3rd act?) of the film. However, i think that's better expressed, through Max, in him putting bees in the room, disabling the car, and planning to kill him with a tree. He is angry, he feels cheated, and he's still a kid so he doesn't fully comprehend the severity and finality of the death, or at least serious injury, he's proposing. But to include the wife and mother of Blum's kids seemed beyond it for a kid who was obviously still upset over having lost his mother. I also don't think he would have shamed Miss Cross that way, as much as he was angry and hurt with her, she was still his Rushmore at the time and he would have as soon as burned down the school as hurt her.

But my biggest complaint with that scene was even after I accepted, fine, he's doing this despicable thing, him going on and offering her snacks, and her accepting, was 4 much. I can remember some lady in the audience at that point in the movie, I assume on seeing where the food was perched, utter "Oh No!" loudly, thinking he was going to push her off the ledge or something. I never got that feeling, but i still fellt "oh no!" about the cut away shot to the food and juice because it was an unwelcome interjection of lightheartedness in a scene that should have been played heavy throughout. I personally would cut that whole scene and have Blum's wife find out through his kids or dinner at the same restaurant with her tennis instructor(?) or something, but I digressinate.


you wanna talk about
>mean, look how he treated his dad.

You mean lying about him?

though I still disagree. I love that sandwich scene

>You mean lying about him?

he treats his dad like an idiot through the entire movie. he's ashamed and embarassed by him. he doesn't appear to have an ounce of respect for him when they talk. just check patronizing way he says "no dad" after his dad offers him money after the play.

"pipe dreams dad. i'm a barber's son"

>As a fan of the movie, it was the only untrue and
>uncharacteristically "mean" moment from Max and I just didn't
>like seeing him that way.

How is this meaner than cutting Blume's brakes and potentially killing people? Or attacking Blume with a swarm of bees!?

Face it, Max had some issues.

> As a fan of film, the whole offering
>her of a sandwich and juice just pushed the quirky offbeat
>shtick too far.

If she had eaten the sandwich, it would have been too quirky. This scene just helped point out how Max still didn't entirely understand the adult world.

>The other one, and one that has sort of grown on me, is the
>scene with Margo and Eli on that bridge. It was forced and
>screamed of "what a great location with great camera
>possibilities", even though its supposed to be a clandestine
>secret meeting.

Agreed.

>
>How is this meaner than cutting Blume's brakes and potentially
>killing people? Or attacking Blume with a swarm of bees!?

I kind of explained this I think in my reply above.



>If she had eaten the sandwich, it would have been too quirky.
>This scene just helped point out how Max still didn't entirely
>understand the adult world.

I disagree with that. First off I think just the een offering was too much, but secondly I think it should Max had too much of an understanding the he WAS ruining Blum's marriage. He knew what he was doing with that information at that time, yet later he insists he's trying to use the same information to get Miss Cross back.

But right now I'm kinda wavering because as I'm typing this out, and trying to draw upon examples, I can't exactly recall if during his discussion with Brian Cox he's trying to get her fired. I remember their exchange, "Why are you trying to get her fired?" "I'm trying to win her back!"...but was he being malicious with Miss Cross as well?

I'm a big fan of the sandwich scene

Clearly this man was a drummer.

the one right after he gets drugged. I won't say its a bad scene but on repeat viewings its the scene i'll most likely forward through or go to the bathroom during.

Plus the camera in the bowling ball thing gets me dizzy

LOVE this movie, but I still think the ending is a bit rushed. It's such a relatively slow burn throughout (It's like what, 8 minutes of NOTHING before that crop duster shows up) and then everything just wraps up wayyyyyy too quickly up there on Mr. Rushmore.

But then the film redeems itself with the train going into the tunnel at the very end.


(And since a lot of people are bringing up mistakes and continuity errors, I'll mention the kid in the restaraunt, even though it doesn't bother me one bit)

open fire in front of CHILDREN.

Shoot an innocent old man

THEN the Merry go Round goes crazy and starts moving at 100 miles per hour

That ending was so damned hard to belive

neo-realism was never his thing.

"Somebody's fiddle." That's a great moment.

Mose might get a little wearisome, I guess.

I would have agreed with you.

Now that I've seen this a bunch of times, I think they fit the tone quite well.

My absolute favoritst part in that movie is the scene with the gun dealer.

"How about that piece? Isn't that a honey?"

B. I think after such a building and draining climax it'd be better to cut the conclusion short.

C. A pan of the newspaper clippings already proves Travis to be made that hero type, albeit based on false actions. Contrasted with the ideal ending in The Searchers that says the same thing but in a more direct and effective way. The letter is over done.

He's out of his league. He and Steve Buscemi should have switched roles. Tarantino gets a cool, brief Buddy Holly cameo and Buscemi gets to do the actual acting.

What about the Wolf dialogue do you not like?

>He and Steve Buscemi should have
>switched roles. Tarantino gets a cool, brief Buddy Holly cameo
>and Buscemi gets to do the actual acting.

I wish this had really happened. And before you posted I would have said there wasn't really anything I wanted to change about Pulp Fiction...

I've been sitting here trying to think of PF's real weak spot, and the QT cameo would have to take the title. It's really cool at first, seeing him make an appearance, but it just lingers far too long, and yes, QT ends up looking quite out of place, and quite outclassed.

I like the QT/SB switch idea.

tarantino as jimmy is PERFECT. "bonnie buys shit..i buy the gourmet shit"

the fact that all of this shit is suppose to take place before 9:30 am. correct me if i'm wrong:

1 - jules & vince arrive at apartment to kill kids & get briefcase. the kids are all dressed, hanging out, eating burgers and fries.
2 - they drive around town and accidentally shoot kid in back seat
3 - they arrive at QT's house and argue for 15 minutes before calling marsalis
4 - via phonecall, you see marsalis & mia at pool side drinking
5 - via phonecall, you see wolf ... AT A PARTY
6 - wolf arrives and they go through the entire cleanup routine.

wolf: "Bonnie comes home at 9:30 in the AM"?

you follow me?

more: immediately afterwards jules & vince go to the diner and eat breakfast, where they have that annoying sun-stuck-in-mid-rise lighting as if it's still suppose to be before 10.


PS -- great idea about switching QT & Buscemi characters

>5 - via phonecall, you see wolf ... AT A PARTY


That this motherfucker is in a tux at a swank party ASS EARLY in the morning. Either the party from the previous evening was still rolling or this fool just non-stop gets busy. Also, he's just as cool, calm, and collected with his social elite pals at the party, as he is with two contract killers, as he is with Jimmy the suburbun douche bag, as he is with blue collar Monster Joe's daughter. And you know Winston Wolfe tapped some of whatever it is that It's Pat has going on down there.

>That this motherfucker is in a tux at a swank party ASS EARLY
>in the morning. Either the party from the previous evening was
>still rolling or this fool just non-stop gets busy. Also, he's
>just as cool, calm, and collected with his social elite pals
>at the party


elite tux-wearing crowds are not cool enough to party in their tuxes at 8 am!!

>No film is perfect...no film.

Memento

Worst part is when it ended cuz it left me wanting more.

shit was backwards!

drunk ass editor.

yes, he knows WHAT the condition is via sammy jankis, but how does he know he has it?
apparently that was QT's objection to the film.
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A wise man sees failure as progress,
a fool divorces his knowledge and misses the logic
(c) canibus - poet laureate 2

But the movie gives us several hints that Leonard's condition may be more a product of his own psychosis than anything else. They really blur the line a lot between Leonard and Sammy Jankis, almost to the point where you question whether or not this Sammy guy ever really existed, or he was just conjured up for Leonard to deal with his own problem.

Which wouldn't bother me. I think it adds extra dimension to that whole 'unreliable narrator' thing that Memento had going on. Not only is his memory whacked, but he might very well be a full-blown nutcase. For all we know Leonard's wife is alive and well somewhere (that or her cause of death was actually an insulin overdose)

So I guess I don't find it farfetched that Leonard knows he has this condition... since I kind of buy into the theory that he sort of created the condition to begin with.

ALL of them. There are no exceptions.

that's one of my favorite endings

and mo better blues wasn't bad

"I WON'T SELL IT BLEEK"

-25th hour became a great movie cuz of the ending.. c'mon, his pops was like, "say the word, and i'll get off this exit".. it showed you how beautiful ed norton's character life coulda been without prison, and shows you the dreamz deferred..

-do the right thing was flawless ending.. it put everything into perspective..

-clockers had a dope conclusion too, showin' the family love but also the fact that stress leads a mufucka to the brink of insanity..

-bamboozled?? how is this ending weak?? he got game??

here's where i agree:
jungle fever (the interacial relationship story; the gator story was tight)
she hate me (nuff said)
mo' betta blues (that scene between denzel and spike lee's sister was like he was goin to rape her, but then they make up?? shit was all out of line.. plus, it insenuated that muzik isn't anywhere near as important as a woman)

nopeace
liveiLL

So after Mookie throws a garbage can thru Sal's window, starting the riot that leads 2 the destruction of the place, it's not really all that believable that Sal is gonna be all cool w/ Mook the next day & still pay dat man his money(c)Teddy KGB

Or maybe that's just me

Anytime that tarantula appears. I fucking hate spiders.

Wasnt a sore spot 4 me but I remember a lot of people finding fault w/ it.

'Nuff said.

It brought out points and themes that were subdued until that point, and it put Spike's indelible stamp on the story. I love that movie so much, man.

>It brought out points and themes that were subdued until that
>point, and it put Spike's indelible stamp on the story. I
>love that movie so much, man.

As do I