So now I've seen her in six movies,* in five of which she had significant or starring roles, and my opinion remains the same. While she does a better job in Match Point than I would have expected (plus she shuts her mouth a little more often), there are still a few jarringly horrible moments.**

Can't anyone give her a role in which she could try out a little lightheartedness? Maybe that's her forte and we just don't know it because everyone casts her in these downer roles.

And what about that mouth? Okay, you know, her lips are sexy, but admit it, they're also kind of deformed.

This poor girl needs some really good training. She's still an infant and she doesn't have the natural talent of, say, Marina Golbahari (Osama) or Catalina Sandino Moreno (Maria Full of Grace). She needs to stop working for a minute and go to some classes with a good teacher. Too bad Lee Strasberg is dead.








*The six movies: Ghostworld, American Rhapsody, The Man Who Wasn't There, Lost in Translation, Girl With A Pearl Earring, and Match Point.

**Jarringly horrible moment ne plus ultra: In the kitchen talking with Chris and Mrs. Eastby. Whew!
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she's lookn nooiiice.

V.

(Sigh) thank you...

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and compared to some of the "actresses" running around Hollywood, *coughPenelopeCruzcough* she's almost Shakespearean in her acting chops.

i mean, she's no great shakes, but she's a damn sight better than most of the yong actresses in hollywood today. if you want to gang up on a sex kitten who's gotten unfairly praised for her acting chops, talk about jolie.

and leave my girl alone. God, God, God damn.

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True connoisseurs everywhere do.

Lame-ass Transformer wanna-bee's.

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what, like YOU don't want a car that opens its doors and turns into a combat aircraft?

Personally I've preferred the mack truck command center aka Rhino. But that's just me.

And that other bike w/ the sidecar that flipped into a speed boat I think was pretty sick as well.

>if you
>want to gang up on a sex kitten who's gotten unfairly praised
>for her acting chops, talk about jolie.

except that i think even her looks are way overpraised

she seems to be a truly compassionate human being, though... i dig that

I think Johansson's *lips* are deformed, but if you bring Jolie into the mix, man, GAME OVER.

nothing wrong with that.

...

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and then i remembered.

and then i didn't care.

and it looks like she'll play that card onscreen and off for as long as she can get away with it. I think we a stuck with her. Pouty trout mouth and all.
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that nigga gay but if that nigga got his jaw broke and his ass ran in by 15 niggas in the shower then he ain't gay

I was fearful that I was completely alone on this one.

I still need to see Match Point but I'm doing that for Woody not for Scarlett. I'm a closet Woody Allen fan (minus the whole Soon Ye thing). Glad to see him move beyond the trite films.
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As long as the jail rape was violent he ain't gay. Now if it was all gay wit candles in the cell or something
that nigga gay but if that nigga got his jaw broke and his ass ran in by 15 niggas in the shower then he ain't gay

I'm not sure this one isn't trite.

>I was fearful that I was completely alone on this one.

Not even close. She was terrible in Ghost World & The Man (& a good actress) who wasnt there. And she hasnt really gotten much better since then.

But damn if those looks dont go a looooooooong ways.

But I'm still on the fence on whether or not I'll check out Match Point. It does look pretty trite. And the comparisons 2 Closer arent swaying me either.

And the movie may be trite, but it's still good. And Scarlett's performance wasn't that great to me. But she's still hot.

And I don't get these comparisons to Angelina, who also hasn't exactly had the best body of work (she won an Oscar for essentially playing herself).

Let's not kid ourselves here. We're not paying to see Scarlett or Angelina act in the classical sense.
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This trick is untalented. She's lovely to look at but just so overrated when it comes to acting. Why does she keep getting such big roles when she can't perform?
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and shes amazingly beautiful.... and she's a better actress than most women her age in hollywood.

i got no problems with her.

I was unashamedly googly-eyed for her whenever she was on the screen. Women are allowed to swoon over Affleck's mouth-breathing, so I'll properly swoon for Ms. Scarlet.

Plus, she has done light-hearted. See: Ghost-World.

I am proud that the word "titties" has not yet appeared in this thread. No doubt it's because this is PTP and not GD.

I KNOW if I were a man, I'd want to fuck her.

On the other hand, there are women who are so beautiful that, even as a straight woman, I want to fuck them. Maggie Cheung is a good example.

And maybe the difference between being a 20-30something man and a 40something woman is that it *doesn't* make me happy to see a man I think is hot if he's doing a really crappy role. Remember how I was bemoaning Jean Reno's participation in The Da Vinci Code? I can't see the film or I'll lose respect for him. Not that I haven't seen him do crap. I have, but it wasn't intentional. lol


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now my purely heterosexual love for the man aside, he's done his fair share of crappy movies

AND *I* didn't see Godzilla. I knew better. But I DID see Crimson Rivers AND I saw Wasabi and I did lose respect for him.

I don't wanna fuck him any more.

>On the other hand, there are women who are so beautiful that,
>even as a straight woman, I want to fuck them. Maggie Cheung
>is a good example.

"WestEast" Magazine.

She got the cover plus like a 10 page (most likely less) layout w/ a "story" concept written by her.

It's a huge mag and ya can't miss it because Maggie is so gorgeous.

>Plus, she has done light-hearted. See: Ghost-World.


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Don't know if that qualifies as light-hearted, but it wasn't "Girl with the Pearl Earring."

all she did was pout and look like jailbait. Her lines were not all that great.

Besides the pasty young muse was covered better in interview for a vampire and normally I hate tom cruise flicks.
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You're outnumbered and overruled on this one.

Ghostworld was very sad and her role, while not that of a suicidal teenager, was certainly a sad one.

hmf

>Ghostworld was very sad

Agree on some levels. Not all.

>and her role, while not that of a suicidal teenager, was certainly >a sad one.

Don't see this. Thora Birch's role, then yeah. Btu Scarlett was the snarky best friend. Dry wit and "haven't you ever heard of the miracle of masturbation" and whatnot. That don't equal very sad and my book. Closer to light-hearted in a twisted way.

>>Ghostworld was very sad
>
>Agree on some levels. Not all.
>
>>and her role, while not that of a suicidal teenager, was
>certainly >a sad one.
>
>Don't see this. Thora Birch's role, then yeah. Btu Scarlett
>was the snarky best friend. Dry wit and "haven't you ever
>heard of the miracle of masturbation" and whatnot. That don't
>equal very sad and my book. Closer to light-hearted in a
>twisted way.

The key word is DRY. She's 2 damn DRY in every movie I've seen her in. She's so DRY it's impossible 4 it 2 come off as lighthearted in my book. If that's the way the character was supposed 2 be played then fine. But it's not lighthearted. If the character is supposed 2 be lighthearted then she fails miserably.

she was the only one who had a shot at a moderately happy life.

even if it could only be achieved through a certain degree of conformity

by the terms of the film, very very sad.

when the alternative is to wind up as miserable as Enid and Seymour, you do what you gotta do.

and in a way she was already conforming to Enid's ways. Just seemed that after a while she got sick of hating EVERYTHING and wanted to branch out a little.

she can do absolutely no wrong in my eyes

i mean, i knew she was hot before, but good god...

Because when I watch that film my understanding is that this character is meant to be extremely appealing--physically and mentally/sexually and matrimonially (if that's a word)--to the viewer. And she was incredibly successful at doing that...mad males walked out of the theatre wanting to wife up that character and bone her silly on the honeymoon. Maybe you can attribute that to her "look" but I thought she played the role really effectively.

but that doesn't change the fact that it was a glum, mouthbreathing sex kitten role.

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What did she do?

My old supe who used 2 work here & did some "acting" (stand in 4 Jared Leto in Prefontaine) remains good friends w/ Jared & was kickin it w/ them a few years ago before some Hollywood party.

He said they were just hangin out @ the crib & that Scar was kickin all the dudes asses in X-Box. And that you could NOT get her 2 give up the controller.

True story.

Now that's a cool ass chic in my book.

my experience was of extreme unpleasantness.

>my experience was of extreme unpleasantness.

Do tell

so there

Especially since Dennis Quaid wouldn't be involved in any shape or form whatsoever.

yup

...and, because she's so stupid hot, everybody will say how brilliant she's grown up to be.

Not that I wouldn't gladly give next month's rent to watch her jump rope topless, but as to her acting skills...well...she's just barely a notch better than Jessica Alba, I guess.

Neither one of these lil' sweeties are getting hired for their acting talents, obviously. They can memorize lines and that seems to be good enough. It's more of a sit-back-and-enjoy-the-view type thing.

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She's a melodramatic actor in an age where nail-on-the-head storytelling and overwrought emotions are considered art. Most quality actors wouldn't waste their time in the films that she is getting. It's not like she's stealing great roles from anyone.

>She's a melodramatic actor in an age where nail-on-the-head
>storytelling and overwrought emotions are considered art.

She was melodramatic in Lost in Translation?

>Most quality actors wouldn't waste their time in the films
>that she is getting. It's not like she's stealing great roles
>from anyone.

Her role in Lost In Translation would be considered "a waste of time" by most actresses?

but then again, this what you people get for having expectations about acting. see, i've largely freed myself of that problem, so my enjoyment of a movie isn't contingent on the quality of the actors on screen. for instance, as i watch something with Scarlett Johansson in it, where it concerns her, the bust-line of her dress leaves me frustrated or encouraged moreso than does the quality of her performance. shallow? sure, but liberation has its side-effects sometimes.

and as per a request for lighthearted, her next collaboration w/ Woody Allen appears less in the vein of Crimes and Misdemeanors and instead something with a bit of smiles (http://imdb.com/title/tt0457513/ ). i still haven't seen Match Point--lord and legal-tender willing, i shall soon--but that stops me from being able to speak on any so-called "jarringly horrible moment." but janey, since she impressed you more in that most recent of films, isn't it possible that she could just be getting "better"? i mean, she made Ghost World when she was 17. shit, i fell off a bike and fractured my elbow when i was about that age, and i only hope i know now how to avoid such a scene. maybe Ghost World or American Rhapsody are merely the cinder blocks in the refuse piles along the way to what should be a long and *bountiful* career.

also, i have high hopes for her being cast in The Black Dahlia adaptation.

i don't mean to defend her too much, as if i have anything invested in her future but ten bucks and a hardon, but maybe she lurks her or something.


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but i dunno... Brian de Palma never fails to frustrate me

at least she's certain to look absolutely breathtaking in post-WWII hair and clothing

did you check out the Gondry Directors Label disc yet, ricky?

>but i dunno... Brian de Palma never fails to frustrate me

i liked the book enough, de Palma seems capable of its kind, so a decent adapation will probably make for at least a good movie. (i never read LA Confidential, but i'd be curious to see how much Curtis Hanson had to change to bring it from the page to the screen.)

>at least she's certain to look absolutely breathtaking in
>post-WWII hair and clothing

and that's a good movie there.

>did you check out the Gondry Directors Label disc yet, ricky?

long answer: so i signed up again for a one month period for Netflix. the director series DVDs of Jonze and Gondry were the last two i received. when i got them in the mail, not wanting to be charged automatically once the new pay period began, i cancelled my account but still had my 7 days to send them back. on Sunday, day after i cancelled, i went to play the Gondry one, only to find out that the disc had a large crack in it and wouldn't play, and i didn't wanna ask for a new copy, thinking they may charge me for a month again. so unfortunately, no, i've haven't seen it yet. i'm thinking about springing for a used copy though.

short answer: no, i've haven't seen it yet.

it's probably my second favorite if all Ellroy's earlier stuff (Clandestine being my fave). it kinda goes over the top at the end, but i think it epitomizes all of Ellroy's recurring themes in their most concentrated form

>i liked the book enough, de Palma seems capable of its kind,
>so a decent adapation will probably make for at least a good
>movie. (i never read LA Confidential, but i'd be curious to
>see how much Curtis Hanson had to change to bring it from the
>page to the screen.)

he actually did pretty good in terms of compressing a lot of the detail into the film... only problems i had were that he softened Guy Pearce's character a bit too much (he was the typical racist asshole Ellroy hero in the book) and tacked on that totally bogus "good triumphs over all" ending that i think undermined the very theme of the story

>>at least she's certain to look absolutely breathtaking in
>>post-WWII hair and clothing
>
>and that's a good movie there.

good enough for me

>>did you check out the Gondry Directors Label disc yet,
>ricky?
>
>long answer: so i signed up again for a one month period for
>Netflix. the director series DVDs of Jonze and Gondry were
>the last two i received. when i got them in the mail, not
>wanting to be charged automatically once the new pay period
>began, i cancelled my account but still had my 7 days to send
>them back. on Sunday, day after i cancelled, i went to play
>the Gondry one, only to find out that the disc had a large
>crack in it and wouldn't play, and i didn't wanna ask for a
>new copy, thinking they may charge me for a month again. so
>unfortunately, no, i've haven't seen it yet. i'm thinking
>about springing for a used copy though.
>
>short answer: no, i've haven't seen it yet.

LOL that sucks

with less crazy.

...and Scarlett strikes me as somewhat of a bore.

but i don't really care. She's rightfully placed in parts where she's meant to be seen and not heard for the most part.

The fact that she can only breathe through her mouth means that the purpose you boys want to put those lips to can't really happen.

Huh.

So THERE.

and get her an adenoid operation.

It would just be some jerk like Jared Leto reaping the benefits.

...she probably has funky breath. Unless she drinks a hell of a lot of water.

>The fact that she can only breathe through her mouth means
>that the purpose you boys want to put those lips to can't
>really happen.
>
>Huh.
>
>So THERE.


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GOOD point.

Keep those cards & letters coming in, folks!

Fonky breath? Really? I'll worry about that when the cinema technology somehow creates smell-o-vision...

In the meantime, y'all need to please stop hatin'...
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I'd slide her a breath mint and keep on handling my business with her.

And as I said before, it's not like the ladies in this post would ignore the results of Affleck's mouth-breathing for a chance to score with him.

The hate is indeed strong here.

but breath mints can be a delightful addition to oral sex, fyi

I'll bear that in mind about the breath mints. Be sure to bring some for the sketchfest.

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>I'd slide her a breath mint and keep on handling my business
>with her.

And I'm sure if you offended her by offering a mint, she'd stick around for you to handle your business.


>
>And as I said before, it's not like the ladies in this post
>would ignore the results of Affleck's mouth-breathing for a
>chance to score with him.

How did Affleck (Ben, I'm assuming) get into this? Besides, he doesn't do it for me.


>The hate is indeed strong here.

Maybe janey is hating, but I was just making an observation. You and Zoo chose to take my comment that way. You two are like those co-workers of Elaine's on Seinfeld, all "Rrrar!" after she commented on the chick whose arms didn't move when she walked. lol


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>And I'm sure if you offended her by offering a mint, she'd
>stick around for you to handle your business.

1. You're assuming she would have bad breath. But considering she's an angel, I'd highly doubt it.

2. On the off chance she did have bad breath, I'd slip it to her on the low. And my charm would make it so that it wasn't an issue.

>How did Affleck (Ben, I'm assuming) get into this?

I mentioned him up earlier (also notorious for mouth-breathing while acting).

>Besides, he doesn't do it for me.

Suuuuuuurrrrrrrreeeee.

>Maybe janey is hating, but I was just making an observation.
>You and Zoo chose to take my comment that way. You two are
>like those co-workers of Elaine's on Seinfeld, all "Rrrar!"
>after she commented on the chick whose arms didn't move when
>she walked. lol

Well, Elaine was out of pocket in that case.

back to your conversation

>1. You're assuming she would have bad breath. But considering
>she's an angel, I'd highly doubt it.

Yeah, and supermodels don't have bad breath from not eating.

>
>2. On the off chance she did have bad breath, I'd slip it to
>her on the low. And my charm would make it so that it wasn't
>an issue.

Riiiight.

>
>>How did Affleck (Ben, I'm assuming) get into this?
>
>I mentioned him up earlier (also notorious for mouth-breathing
>while acting).

Never noticed that.

>
>>Besides, he doesn't do it for me.
>
>Suuuuuuurrrrrrrreeeee.

Maybe he does it for *you*, and that's why you're pushing him on janey and me. :-p Seriously...I don't know one woman who mentions him when asked which male celebrities she has crushes on.


>Well, Elaine was out of pocket in that case.

I don't really know what you mean by that.


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>Yeah, and supermodels don't have bad breath from not eating.

Supermodels are coked-out skanks. Scarlett is proof of God's love.


>Maybe he does it for *you*, and that's why you're pushing him
>on janey and me. :-p

Ohohohohohoho. You wound me, madame.

>>Well, Elaine was out of pocket in that case.
>
>I don't really know what you mean by that.

"Out of pocket": meaning saying something foul or in the wrong.

I think that both of you need to re-read my original post again to find out if I'm "hating" or if I'm expressing a well thought out opinion and including reasonable suppositions about the basis of the problem and suggestions for how she can overcome her acting problem.

now, back to your eye rolling

I can't hear you! I can't hear you! nyah nyah nyah!

lol

>I think that both of you need to re-read my original post
>again to find out if I'm "hating" or if I'm expressing a well
>thought out opinion and including reasonable suppositions
>about the basis of the problem and suggestions for how she can
>overcome her acting problem.
>
>now, back to your eye rolling


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a "mouth-breather" (which I'd never heard of before the first time you brought it up) as even a negative, let alone a damning arguement against her?


Cause in my book I've got right here... page 140, no 142... paragraph 7... yup *points*



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No matter how much you may believe you're "expressing a well thought out opinion and including reasonable suppositions," hate is hate, especially if you call the girl a "glum mouth breathing sex kitten" in the subject line. If you were forreal, like if this were some kind of scholarly exposition paper on Scarlett Johannson, you would have titled it differently. Period. You don't get medals for disguising hate with well-constructed essays. Come on, yo, we missed that train to StupidLand a long time ago...
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The coworkers made comments that were just as catty as what Elaine said, if not more. So my point is, you and Zoo are assuming I'm hating because I'm female.

>>>Well, Elaine was out of pocket in that case.
>>
>>I don't really know what you mean by that.
>
>"Out of pocket": meaning saying something foul or in the
>wrong.


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>The coworkers made comments that were just as catty as what
>Elaine said, if not more. So my point is, you and Zoo are
>assuming I'm hating because I'm female.

Right, you don't dig her because she "might have funky breath."

*shrugs*

And I'd suggest not reading too much further into my "defense" of her. Or any "attacks" of your "non hate."
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>Right, you don't dig her because she "might have funky
>breath."
>
>*shrugs*

NOwhere in this post did I say I despise her, hate her, don't like her, don't dig her, whateverthefuck. Y'all are reading way too much into a comment on fuckin' mouth breathing. Sheesh.



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>Maybe janey is hating, but I was just making an observation.
>You and Zoo chose to take my comment that way. You two are
>like those co-workers of Elaine's on Seinfeld, all "Rrrar!"
>after she commented on the chick whose arms didn't move when
>she walked. lol

as i said yesterday, ever since Lindsay Lohan reduced hers via that cocaine and vomit diet Scarlett easily has the best set in Hollywood. that's about all that matters. i'm looking forward to her Oscar dress already.

I looked through some of those golden globe pix and I was like whatEVER.

Scarlett's tits look particularly nice because she also has that wasp waist.

y'all turn something that should be carnal and dirty into a fucking psychological examination. like you're watching "Big Wet Black Asses 5" with your girl and she's talking about how much the girl's fishnets must hurt in that position.

a strapless dress? who the fuck CARES what kind of dress it is? her titties are full, real, and glorious. and the dress served as a perfect showcase for them.

i know haters. haters are friends of mine. and you, ma'am, are fucking *HATING*.

I was speaking in general about fashion, so your diatribe is misplaced.

Second, I wear a black fishnet bodysuit for sex on occasion. It's particularly nice for public sex. You're projecting your girlfriend's issues onto me.

Ergo, nothing you say has any validity whatsoever.


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ooooookay.

and the fishnets were just an example. you're still a hater, though. let the girl's titties shine.

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Foreign bitty. She was in the latter two MAtrix movies, among others. Great rack. Not sure if it's as good as Scarlett's though.

and i wanted someone to post a link.

anyway i went and looked. Monica's a hotter/sexier/older woman but i'm not sure she's got better tits than Scarlett.

i'm still weeping over the loss of Lindsay's.

and they're breathtaking without any support.

i think i am in love

that turns out very pretty, massively hootered, and completely untalented blonde women every 5 years or so.

I remember when this chick 1st came out in the 80's. They called her kim basinger then.

but i hate HATER HER VOICE

i think she does the same thing in every movie

shes like the not cute girl that gets play cause she blossomed

*drum fill*

- She was melodramatic in Lost in Translation?

No, she did well in that. Overall though, I have not been impressed with her work.

"Her role in Lost In Translation would be considered "a waste of time" by most actresses?"

I was looking at her work since Lost in Translation. I don't think many people were fighting for The Perfect Score, Love Song for Bobby Long, The Island, In Good Company. The original post was talking about foreign actresses who usually seem much happier appearing in non-Hollywood fare.

will u ever get off the hate wagon? u got some deep-seated hatred for scarlett..why dont u just stop seeing her movies?

i think entire films are being written around that expression

...on white actresses sans collagen is interesting looking to me, not deformed.

Anyway, I like Scarlett J. but couldn't care less about her looks. I guess I am just indifferent about her. I like Thora Birch more as an actress.

One of my old co-workers used to say that.

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...sometimes I'd just smile when she was on the screen, irregardless of what she was doing/saying.

That face.........that ample bosom.........

*sigh*



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