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28218, *ILLEGAL USE OF COP OUT*
Posted by Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-22-05 05:32 PM

* ON DAMAJA*

*TURNOVER ON DOWNS*

*ORBIT'S BALL!!!!*

>i said at the start of the discussion the metaphor is simply
>different systems of measurement for different systems of
>morality, anything else is going too far

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BULLLLLLSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIITTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!

Motherfucka, there was NOOOOOOO one forcing you to bring up:

a)The notion that metaphors need not discuss phenomenon with any sort of connection

b)The notion that the use of metric/imperial was related to the "scales of justice"

c)The notion that the metric/imperial dichotomy was related to the criminal underworld's embrace of the metric system.

d)The notion taht the use of metric/imperial dichotomy was suggestive of subjective realities

YOU brought that shit up.

YOU did.

You didn't have to.

But YOU DID.

And the second it got shot the FUCK DOWN you fly in here talkin' bout:

"I didn't even mean it, Orbit."

"That isn't what I meant."

Muthafucka, STAND UP FOR YO SHIT, BIATCH!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

Mang.

>however since you decided to take it too far with this
>hilarious shit about metric being innappropriate because it's
>a "colder, narrower" system (and muscles are tense in the cold
>and blood vessels narrow, which Tarantino should have thought
>of, what a moron) it was obvious that you were incredibly bad
>at attacking what you were claiming was a bad metaphor, so i
>indulged you

No, assholeomunchesseee,

You embraced me because you were arguing that Tarantino used the Metric/Imperial dichotomy to make references to the the concept of subjective reality/perception, the criminal underworld, and all other types of WRONG shit.

Admit it.

>i gave you the idea that systems of measurement had to evolve
>into widely shared values, similar to how laws and moral codes
>had to evolve into widely shared values

You made that WRONG idea that has nothing to do with Tarantino, or Pulp Fiction.

Again, YOU INVENTED THAT SHIT and it simply didn't stand up to any REAL scrutiny.

>i was giving you these ideas simply in response to your
>idiotic ideas about the suppposed wrongness of the metaphor,
>to show how easily your ideas could be countered. remember
>we're still in the realm of going too far

NOT TRUE!!!!

You went too far FROM JUMP!!!!

>your point about scientists and laborotories using metric
>measurement, therefore making it "common usage," continues to
>be irrelevant. OBVIOUSLY in a science lab everything will be
>in metric. but on the road the signs are mph, at the gym the
>weights are in pounds, you give your bodyweight in
>stone/pounds, you order pints, in trade they use imperial
>units, IE in EVERYDAY LIFE

Who fucking cares????

You made the point that the metric/Imperial system comparison has to do with embracing different moral values or some shit like dat.

No, it dosen't.

>your point about criminals using metric because thats what
>their syringes say, that's probably right (except that it's
>not exclusively the case), but it doesn't actually change
>anything, all it means is that the drug dealers are among the
>fastest adopters of the metric system, which actually backs up
>the idea of using a modern measurement system in a film about
>evil in modern times

See, this is why you are a hoe:

ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE METRIC/IMPERIAL COMPARISON WAS USED TO MAKE A POINT ABOUT THE CRIMINAL UNDERGROUND, OR ARE YOU NOT MAKING THAT POINT?????

WHICH IS IT???

FIRST YOU SAY:

"No, Orby, we are taking it too far. I meant none of it."

Than you turn right around and say the metric/imperial comparison and the fact that the criminal underworld uses the metric system, is a valid point.....

You can't have BOTH.

Pick an argument, and I'll wee wee on it.

But stand by something.

>I can SEE your point about measurement units being different
>from subjective values but 1. it's still going to far, and 2.
>believe me I can easily reframe the debate so that the
>metaphor fits the subjective values idea, it's already been
>done in one of the essays i've read

Hell, I've heard interpretations that Mia and Vince's relationship are Adam/Eve like.

The problem is, Mia and Vince's interaction is not Adam and Eve like.

Why?

Because it wasn't.

>your accusation about me shaving down my arguement because my
>comments about the metric/imperial system is intellectually
>dishonest and ridiculous. YOU are the one who dragged out
>these complicated ideas about the nature of the metric system
>(hey, it's cold and narrow reminscent of the unrelaxed muscles
>and tighter blood streams of the human body in cold temps!),
>and now you want to say it's my weak arguing.

You mad, doggie?

Prollem is my vascular system/colder/more narrow metaphor is an ACTUAL METAPHOR comparing an ABSTRACT PHENOMENON to a CONCRETE PHENOMENON where I use elements of the CONCRETE phenomenon(blood vessels) to highlight elements of the abstract phenomenon(how "flexible" a system of measurement is).

Like I said, I usually charege for lessons like this.