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28155, Wow. I cannot believe I just read that. Just wow.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Thu Aug-18-05 04:10 PM

>But that's the point. That's what makes it interesting. A
>white man in a black man's world. Otherwise, it's just another
>story about a rapper. I grasped the concept that he a broke,
>struggling artist. There are plenty of those, black and
>white.

But here is what's ironic:

Eminem's whiteness has actually made his rise to success EASIER and not HARDER.

The film focused on how HARD it was for him being WHITE.

That is the problem.

Don't focus on whitness as a handicap when its not a handicap, but an advantage.

And you are wrong -- there is PLENTY OF ROOM for a gritty, well made drama about a black man's rise in hip hop.

Just check that whole "Hustle and Flow" movie that is getting rave reviews.

Sadly, "Hustle and Flow" would not have even been MADE without the commercial success of '8 Mile'(though, Hustle and Flow will make a fraction at the box office compared to '8Mile' despite being twice as good a film).

>Why should countless black rappers warrant a feature film?
>There needs to be an angle, a good story.

If you are black, you are simple minded.

If you are white, you are a closet racist.

Lets do this:

Andre Benjamin.

Nasir Jones

Andre Young

Oshea Jackson.

Rakim Allah.

Chris Parker.

Christopher Wallace.

Curtis Jackson.


THE ONLY THING these guys have in common is the fact that they are black.


They each have compelling, inspirational, unique stories about their rise to hip hop.


Some of their stories are AT LEAST as compelling as that of Marshall Mathers.


And are therefore worthy of a film.


That fact that you can so flippantly say that Eminem's life is more interesting solely because he operated "in a black man's world" is quite disturbing to me.


The reality is that all of hip hop operates in a white man's world. Just check most of the record label execs and CEOs.

"Old White Men, is Running this Rap Shit..."

(C) Mos.


>Remember, rap is still relatively young in the scope of its
>and our lifetimes. A movie about Ray Charles in his heydey
>would have been premature as a movie about Chuck D would be
>now. But someday, his career would be worth looking at in the
>context of a movie.


No. No. No. No.

That is what makes films about Hip hop NOW MORE COMPLELLING because a lot of its creators/early innovators are RELATIVELY YOUNG and we can still see them making the artform, and see the effects of their artform.



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