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28142, I'm replying even less, cuz God, this is tedious. Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Aug-21-05 10:08 AM
> >>Most of the dialogue breaks your rule #1, because it is >>comical in many people's opinion. I find much of the >dialogue >>amusing. >> > >no, it doesn't break the rule, you're being so simple minded, >and i've explained this already. the dialogue is witty but the >humour isn't more important than the conversation itself, >unlike in most comedies. Watch an episode of Friends notice >how many times an unrealistic reaction to a joke is the only >thing that lets the scene continue, or how many times Joey >says something so dumb it makes his character's existence an >impossibility. Pulp Fiction manages to be very funny, without >being unrealistic like that.
But it's still funny.
> >> >>You said very little in a lot of words. >> > >LOL i attempted to be thorough in explaining the complexity of >some of the changes/reactions the characters go through, as >YOU requested. You're not even concentrating, are you?
No I'm not. Because I'm tired and bored.
> >>>>>but anyway, Pulp Fiction IS intertwined. >>>> >>>>Yes. Because characters like a boss, his wife, and his >>>>co-workers are ALWAYS interwined. >>>> >>> >>>no they're not. do you know you're bosses wife? >> >>I know her family, yes. Not to mention in most mafia/mob >>movies, characters know the big boss's wife. >> > >other than Masellus, Vince is the only one who knows Mia, and >it was the first time they'd met.
Jules knows of Mia. I'm sure Wolf has met Mia, or knows of her. They know who she is, and what she's done. When/If they meet, they already know her background and story.
> >>either way, waltzing >>>into scenes at CRUCIAL moments is a little bit more than >>>inevitable contact >> >>Yes, but there's ONE moment of that. >> > >1. Butch turning up to kill Vince
How is that a coincidence? Butch doesn't know Vince. Just because we know them both doesn't make it a coincidence in the story. A coincidence would be if a person runs into another person they know unexpectedly. There are lots of strangers I interact with that maybe a mutual friend knows. That doesn't make it a coincidence.
>2. Pumpkin and Honeybunny meeting Jules during a "transitional >period" >
Same thing.
> >>I said it's not intertwined because that implies a level of >>complication/coincidence to the stories tying together, when >>it's not terribly complicated. > >the stories are related to each other on more than just a >"some of the characters are acquainted with each other" level, >what more is there to say. if it was any more intertwined it >would just be irritating > >> >>Give me one instance of Marsellus being pop culture. >> > >Without his presence, the three main stories aren't "pulp >fiction" stories
That doesn't explain how HE PERSONALLY is pop culture. That's sidestepping the question by saying what things aren't without him. Without him, there's no story, so that's a bullshit answer. How IS he pop culture?
> >>>they used the same technique of undermining violence, >>>deliberately? of catching the audience out for enjoying it? >>>example? >> >>Horror movies do it often. We are shocked, but the main >>characters are less appealing than the violent evil. If >Milton >>had had a video camera... > >You said not enough in unsurprisingly few words > >i take it you mean we have a morbid fascination with monsters >and serial killers, so we enjoy watching horror films. or >maybe you mean something else. i don't know
Right. And horror films amuse us. And the violence doesn't shock us. Sometimes the violence amuses us/ intrigues us. Like you said.
> > >> >> >>> >>>>Yeah, but he said "joycean sense of here comes everybody." >>>>Which means absolutely nothing and is meant to sound more >>>>intellectual and more pompous than everyone reading it. >>>> >>> >>>Well, have you read Finnegan's Wake? >>>if you're familiar with Joyce presumably it's not more >>cryptic >>>than saying something like "P.E.'s sense of militancy" >>> >> >>You're saying the easiest, clearest way to convey his point >is >>through that statement? >> > >if you're talking to a scholarly audience, why not. it's not >like he's referencing an obscure book, it's one of the most >famous books there is >
Zzzzzz. Again, is it the clearest way to make his point? No.
> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>Take a film like "Dead Poets Society" >>>>>> >>>>>>A movie that sucks. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>man >>>> >>>>Yep. It sucks. >>> >>>jesus >> >>Jesus also hates that movie. > >jesus is a hater
I guess so. Cuz Dead Poets Society sucks.
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