26534, RE: Hmmmm... Posted by Nettrice, Sun Jul-24-05 10:07 PM
>No, it was *white* southern. listen to enough 3-6 or 8ball >and you can tell the difference.
Just those two rappers? My point is to not generalize as far as dialect/accents. I'm Black and from the dirty South and you couldn't even tell when I was 16. Now my family on the other hand...some sound like Jim Bob and others sound like Junebug.
>Terrence Howard does not sound like that >in real life. So when he decided to do the accent, he picked >the wrong one.
The Terrence Howard I went to school with had an Cleveland, OH accent. He had hay behind the ears the first year he was in college but whatever.
>There's a tension with regard to realism in every film. It >has to be real enough for the critics/for the audience, but >it's still fiction.
Sure.
>Well, the entire reply depends on knowing something about the >music in the film, hence the hip hop perspective in the >title.
I need to hear Memphis rap music, not Southern hip-hop. That's too general. If you ask me about Louisville/KY rap music I will play some Nappy Roots.
>In this film, white.middle.upper class audiences are the >lowest common denominator. Black, lower class audiences, >especially southern, will identify with the flick, but they'll >see the problems in the portrayal that the LCD sundance and NY >times reviewers miss.
Perhaps but the Southern Black folks I talked to, who say Hustle & Flow, say it's close enough. When I sat in the theater near the Fenway (Boston) the middle-class white folks behind me frequently snickered when nothing was funny (the Black singer in church). I could hear some of them hush the others when they noticed no one else was laughing. They did not get it.
>Because it's part of that great white fantasy supported by >black folks that will paint every black artistic endeavor with >a broad brush.
Black folks do it, too.
>In this case, 1973-74 hip hop was not blues men material. >Indeed it's not just the topics that make something bluesy, >but it's how those topics are talked about. When Luke was >doing his thing back in the day, he wasn't thinking about the >great bluesmen of the south, and it's arguable that he was >even listening to that when he came up with "Face down, ass >up, that's the way.." The only connection he has, is that >black men have liked big black female asses and sex for >thousands of years. That doesn't mean there's an artistic >connection. > >It's the same mistake that LaChappelle does in Rize, in trying >to connect 2003-04 krumping with 1975 Afrikan dance footage.
Well, I see the connection in some (not all) things because we do have a culture and a legacy that is passed down, like I pass down 70s and 80s hip-hop and r&b to younger folks.
>Slim Thug's mama says she doesn't listen to rap, only country, >but she's not the one rapping, Slim is.
I was talking about the young Black guys listening to country (in Cleveland), not their mothers.
>I'm not trying to step outside of that, cause more than enough >people can give their uninformed about hip hop but allegedly >informed about black people "minps" angle on it.
Man, I am more "hip-hop" and Southern than you think.
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