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11724, Total self-gratification
Posted by blue23, Mon Jan-13-03 09:45 AM
>does the fact that it was intentionally corny make up for
>the fact that it was corny? I don't think so.
Me neither. And yes I 'got it'.

>A lot of artists have been doing this type of thing in other
>media for years, and the critics defending them have fallen
>back on the same excuses. Sometimes it's legitimate,
>sometimes it's not. But irony died a long time ago.
Let's try and forget about '8 1/2' and all the other movies Kaufman borrows from. It's killing me that NO ONE is mentioning that CK stole the concept of the brothers as screenwriters idea right down to the bogus script concept from Sam Shepard's "True West".

>You make a movie filled with trite hollywood cliches to
>point out how trite and cliched hollywood movies are. Nice
>statement, but you still are asking me to watch a movie with
>trite hollywood cliches. I understand it. I just don't like
>it.
Exactly. It comes off as a total hand job. Spike and Charlie jerking themselves off. Look what we did. Look how smart. And critics have totally bought it and deemed them geniuses. I'm not buying it. At the end of film, when you walk away, what are you left with? A couple funny Nic Cage moments, some decent editing, and a forgettable film.

BTW