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116900, Pacific Rim (Del Toro, 2013) (SPOILERS)
Posted by Melanism, Wed Dec-12-12 08:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vKz7WnU83E

YEEESSSSSSS!
116901, Mmmhmmm.
Posted by Frank Longo, Wed Dec-12-12 08:53 PM
116902, Man, it's taken too long for a 'Big Robot Anime' Hollywood movie
Posted by BigReg, Wed Dec-12-12 10:08 PM
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vKz7WnU83E
>
>YEEESSSSSSS!

I expect fucking chaos, emo pilots, and several characters with really shitty relationships towards their parents that the aliens/monsters/enemies stand as allegories for.

116903, How quick we are to forget Robot Jox
Posted by navajo joe, Wed Dec-12-12 10:23 PM
although I'm not sure if that counts as hollywood
116904, No, Robot Jox deserves to be forgotten
Posted by spenzalii, Thu Dec-13-12 03:27 PM
Painful memories watching that fantastically horrible flick
116905, It's because of ROBOT JOX that I can't get bhind this trailer
Posted by CaptNish, Fri Dec-14-12 12:58 AM
I want to like it, but that shit looks really forgettable.
116906, Robot Jox was just ahead of its time!
Posted by calij81, Fri Dec-14-12 02:15 AM
Oh shit who am I kidding, that movie was terrible.
116907, yes, please
Posted by ternary_star, Thu Dec-13-12 08:07 AM
That's that shit I do like.

I always cringe when Stringer Bell is speaking in his native funny talk, so that'll take some getting used to. But it looks like they absolutely crushed the fx work. Shit looks amazing.

that trailer is better than the entire Transformers series.

hate. hate. hate. hate. hate. hate.
116908, yyeeessssss!!
Posted by bleekgilliam_420, Thu Dec-13-12 12:23 PM
the special effects looked dope! hopefully it wont disappoint, but i have the upmost faith in del toro that its going to be awesome.
116909, Yeaaaah boy!
Posted by Hitokiri, Thu Dec-13-12 01:53 PM
Can't wait.
116910, If it's directed by GDT I'm in
Posted by handle, Thu Dec-13-12 02:03 PM
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vKz7WnU83E
>
>YEEESSSSSSS!
116911, glados?
Posted by inpulse, Thu Dec-13-12 02:22 PM
116912, ha...noticed that too
Posted by Mageddon, Fri Dec-14-12 10:34 AM
Gabe gave 'em permission to use the voice.
116913, RE: glados?
Posted by xbenzive, Fri Dec-14-12 04:37 PM
It's her.

Del Toro confirmed. Just a geek nod I suppose.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnyegriffiths/2012/12/12/pacific-rim-im-making-a-note-here-huge-homage/

116914, yeah, first thing that jumped out to me too
Posted by xangeluvr, Sun Dec-16-12 01:40 AM
lol
116915, Garbage.
Posted by Nopayne, Thu Dec-13-12 05:17 PM
C'mon dude. Just make The Strain into a movie. Quit fucking around.
116916, Wait -- y'all lliked this and are shitting on After Earth? Really?
Posted by Orbit_Established, Fri Dec-14-12 12:30 AM

Fuck is wrong with y'all?

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116917, I think it's nothing but GDT love & M. Night hate.
Posted by CaptNish, Fri Dec-14-12 12:57 AM
.
116918, Switch the attached names and the reactions switch as well.
Posted by Cold Truth, Fri Dec-14-12 12:59 AM
116919, *shrugs* Both looked good to me...
Posted by phenompyrus, Sat Dec-15-12 09:38 AM
116920, Shit, you didn't see me shitting on After Earth.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sat Dec-15-12 12:16 PM
I think ALL these movies look tight--- robot vs monster fight, Jaden vs monkeys fight, Cruise vs Morgan Freeman's sunglasses fight.
116921, lol, yup
Posted by will_5198, Thu Dec-20-12 11:29 PM
After Earth looked way better; it was the best trailer of all the 2013 action sci-fi flicks (Cruise, Star Trek 2.0 and this) shown before The Hobbit
116922, After Earth was good to me
Posted by MistaGoodBar, Mon Jul-22-13 10:41 AM
116923, Looks like an R rater Power Rangers
Posted by BennyTenStack, Fri Dec-14-12 12:25 PM
Not necessarily a bad thing.
116924, I'd really like to write a new Power Rangers movie.
Posted by Cold Truth, Fri Dec-14-12 06:53 PM
Because the basic concept is great material.
116925, it could be really dope
Posted by BennyTenStack, Sat Dec-15-12 12:32 AM
116926, RE: Pacific Rim trailer
Posted by damngirlobserver, Sat Dec-15-12 12:34 AM
this make anyone else think of neon genesis evangelion?

116927, nope. G Gundam
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Dec-15-12 01:28 AM
which is the only Gundam series i actually like watching.

edit: the synchro thing reminds me of an eva episode.
theres probably a ton of mecha tropes in this shit.
116928, jax teller saves the world.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Dec-15-12 01:12 AM
116929, this looks terrible
Posted by AZ, Sat Dec-15-12 09:31 AM
Nm
116930, if this does worse 'bers than After Earth, I'm seizing logins
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Dec-16-12 08:19 AM


Y'all made it that way with your astonishing
lack of objectivity

Cats is in that After Earth post talking about
Scientology and HATING

When this shit looks terrible

Awful

Like, WOW

But y'all in here hyping it up

Disgusting

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




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(C)Keith Murray, "
116931, No chance this does better numbers than After Earth.
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Dec-16-12 04:41 PM
And I'm someone excited for both.

But After Earth has Will Smith, Jaden Smith, and effects.
Pacific Rim has Idris Elba, dude from SOA, and effects.

Though I absolutely love Guillermo Del Toro (Blade 2 is woefully underrated), and I think Shyamalan has about as many misses as hits (love three of them, hate three of them, indifferent on the other one), there is NO director that draws box office solely on name. Zero. Even Spielberg can't do it domestically, as Tintin showed. Directors mean absolutely nothing for box office reliability.

Stars and effects do matter.

Both films will make big money, I'm fairly certain.
But After Earth will make more.

The real debate should be After Earth vs. Oblivion, as Cruise still has drawing power. Cruise vs. Smith is far closer to a fair fight, though again, Smith is the favorite.

I get the sense from the After Earth trailer that Jaden is more of the star of this one than Will, that Will is the supporting role. Which may give Oblivion a fighting chance.

But again, Pacific Rim would have to be a huge critical success with an A+ Cinemascore to make more than After Earth. And After Earth would have to have horrifying bad critical response and a low CinemaScore (B or worse).

Funny that people bring up Avatar in regards to the After Earth trailer. That tells you about its money making potential right there.
116932, Oops. I was very wrong.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Jul-09-13 11:34 AM
My L.
116933, Yeah. Pretty good midnight opening numbers.
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Fri Jul-12-13 05:11 PM
Also Fandango said that it's outselling World War Z through that same point.

WB said they'd be happy with a 30 million dollar opening weekend? Really? They probably already mitigated that.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3701&p=.htm

BOM predicting it edges out DM2 by barely a million.

i'm out.
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116934, Looks pretty and boring
Posted by Torez the Judge, Sun Dec-16-12 08:47 AM
Giant Robo is the stoty thay ever made me care about 500 foot robots. Jaegerd look too big and humans too disconnected from the real fighting for me too care.

It feels like the Battle of Zion from the Matrix on steroids.

Unsure about this one. I hope it wasnt too expensive.
116935, Charlie Hunnam AND Ron Perlman in this?
Posted by dgonsh, Fri Dec-21-12 01:28 AM
Makes sense for scheduling purposes I guess. Has me excited. Plus Charlie Day for what I can only assume is comic relief? Im in.
116936, RE: I'm quite sure i'll miss opening weekend,lol
Posted by maternalbliss, Wed Dec-26-12 03:47 PM
this shit looks worser than After Earth.
116937, Ah, taking me back to the days of Starvengers and Tranzor Z
Posted by mrhood75, Wed Dec-26-12 04:56 PM
Shit's got me hyped.
116938, Ain't nobody else excited about this????
Posted by TruOne, Sat Mar-23-13 09:16 AM
AS me?
116939, New trailer to get you hyped
Posted by j0510, Mon Apr-29-13 09:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hxnQi1qAvdM
116940, This was kind of a confusing trailer
Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Apr-30-13 12:25 PM
We were invaded, and then we started winning, but then we started losing, but then we didn't go away and kept fighting. Or something.

I've lowered my expectations big time on this one. I have a feeling that Del Toro's better at smaller films and creating intriguing worlds than a big action film.
116941, it's Sons of anarchy with big robots. not seeing what there's
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Apr-30-13 12:42 PM
to be confused about

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
116942, I get the premise.
Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Apr-30-13 01:52 PM
I thought the "We were losing and then started winning, but then started losing so now we are REALLY coming together to fight" was odd since it seems like all they are doing is continuing to fight with the same robots.

But I guess that's what I should expect for what I'm guessing is going to be a big, stupid, but hopefully fun movie.
116943, i don't give a F...this looks AWESOME
Posted by Hellyeah, Tue Apr-30-13 03:21 PM
116944, I didn't like Will Smith's accent in this trailer.
Posted by Orbit_Established, Tue Apr-30-13 04:36 PM

His accent is going to ruin this movie.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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116945, RE: I didn't like Will Smith's accent in this trailer.
Posted by j0510, Tue Apr-30-13 08:30 PM
>
>His accent is going to ruin this movie.


that OE greatness shines through
116946, this really does seem like an anime put on film.
Posted by forgivenphoenix, Tue Apr-30-13 05:18 PM
the trailer looks alright enough, but i have to say if i hear ONE more trailer with the Inception BRRAAGNN (horn) i'm gonna have to start a twitter campaign against the use of it...EVER AGAIN.
116947, I was hoping last year was the end of BRRRAAAANG!
Posted by SoulHonky, Tue Apr-30-13 05:40 PM
But apparently, we're still there. And none of the blockbuster trailers this year are bringing anything different to replace it so I think we might have it next year as well.
116948, Nolan's fault
Posted by jigga, Wed May-01-13 02:07 AM
They bitin

116949, Official Theatrical Trailer
Posted by Melanism, Thu May-16-13 01:53 PM
http://youtu.be/5guMumPFBag
116950, Much better trailer.
Posted by SoulHonky, Thu May-16-13 03:45 PM
I'm in. Still not sure how it's going to do box office-wise here. I think it'll do gangbusters in China.
116951, RE: Official Theatrical Trailer
Posted by Benedict the Moor, Thu May-16-13 04:32 PM
looks like a mishmash of godzilla, transformers & real steel

the whole "combined feelings" shtick is hella corny and alludes to forced melodrama

but Del Toro's directing, so fuck it..
116952, Dope little featurette on the Jeagers
Posted by bwood, Fri Jun-14-13 04:07 PM
http://youtu.be/YLXz-zzilkM

It's too bad PTP is too cool for school on this.


And LOL at this not doing better numbers than After Earth as stated above.
116953, I'm all-in on this movie, in case it wasn't clear.
Posted by Rjcc, Sat Jun-15-13 01:43 AM
I just don't want to deal w/ yall

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
116954, GoBots and i'm in
Posted by lfresh, Sat Jun-15-13 12:46 PM

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116955, Shit is gonna be epic, surprise blockbuster of the summer
Posted by select_from_where, Sat Jun-15-13 02:02 PM
Go see it I'm IMAX 3d half drunk and enjoy the great scale to which del Torro will nail this on the head

Really looking forward to this

ll
116956, Nah I'm gonna go by myself with a note pad stone sober
Posted by ShinobiShaw, Sat Jun-15-13 11:29 PM
and critique everything I see including people walking around with untied shoelaces
plot holes where a specific conversation didnt happen the way it should of in my head
the lack of black people
Batman's voice
The overuse of apple products


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116957, oh shit hahahaah
Posted by wallysmith, Fri Jun-28-13 05:28 PM
116958, Listen to a track from the score featuring a signature guitar solo from Tom Morello
Posted by bwood, Fri Jun-28-13 03:42 PM
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/listen-to-a-full-track-from-the-score-for-pacific-rim-featuring-rage-against-the-machines-tom-morello?q5951637=1
116959, uhwah? with the reactions? shit looks hecka fun
Posted by araQual, Fri Jun-28-13 06:03 PM
V.
116960, Kaiju Survival Guide
Posted by wallysmith, Wed Jul-03-13 04:17 PM
http://imgur.com/gallery/lH5ef

I cannot fucking wait for this movie
116961, OH SHIT KANYE ENDORSED IT so it's gonna die at the box office (swipe)
Posted by ZooTown74, Fri Jul-05-13 08:41 PM
http://variety.com/2013/film/news/kanye-west-praises-pacific-rim-1200524309/


>Kanye West’s Praise for ‘Pacific Rim’ Ignites Buzz

JULY 5, 2013 | 03:32PM PT
Leading videogame designer's endorsement also builds fan excitement

Despite the strict Warner Bros. embargo on reviews of the Guillermo del Toro monsters vs. robot pic “Pacific Rim,” it’s received some early Twitter endorsements: namely, from the controversial Kanye West.

The “Yeezus” artist was able to catch a screening of the movie, despite a new album and a new baby, and tweeted Thursday, “It’s easily one of my favorite movies of all time.”

While “Pacific Rim” has been compared to “Transformers” and other movies of the genre, West disagrees with that sentiment.

“This is not another ‘Robot’ movie,” he tweeted to his 9 million followers. “Guillermo del Toro is a master.”

“Pacific Rim,” starring Charlie Hunman, Rinko Kikuchi and Idris Elba, depicts a war between giant alien monsters (Kaiju) that threaten Earth and the human-piloted robots (Jaegers) built to fight them off. The $180 million picture has garnered mixed pre-release press, and it’s hard to tell whether the polarizing rapper’s input will hurt or help the film.

West’s tweets were retweeted over 5,000 times (as of Friday afternoon) and set off a flurry of reaction ranging from screenwriter @DayanBallweg’s flabbergasted “If Kanye West saves Pacific Rim? I… just don’t… know where to go with that.” to inevitable jokes like @Shaella’s “Ima let you finish but Pacific rim was one of Kanye West’s favorite movies of all time. OF ALLL TIIIMMEE.” Some were put off by West’s endorsement but many said it would make them more likely to see the picture.

Thesp Ron Perlman, who appears in the picture as a dealer in black-market Kaiju organs, also responded to West via Twitter.

“Need Kaiju parts, u get the fam discount!” Perlman tweeted to West, referring to the monsters called the “Kaiju” in the movie. Kikuchi retweeted West’s praise.

“Pacific Rim” actor Robert Kazinsky said in a video interview, “No big deal, it’s just Kanye,” tongue firmly in cheek. “Questionable decisions in most of his life, but in this case, I think I’ll go with he’s got excellent taste when it comes to films.”

“Pacific Rim” also received an endorsement via Twitter from Hideo Kojima, vice president of Konami Digital Entertainment and the mind behind the wildly successful Metal Gear Solid videogame series. The game designer raved about the film in a string of eight tweets on Thursday.

“This film is not simply a film to be respected, but most importantly, it let us dream the future of entertainment movies,” he said. “‘Pacific Rim’ is the ultimate otaku film that all of us had always been waiting for. Who are you, if you are Japanese and won’t watch this?”

Kojima, who is no stranger to giant robots, may be tapping into a key videogamer market for “Pacific Rim.” Internet forums have already responded to the review, with one Gamefaqs.com user writing on the website’s forum, “Kojima has said it, we must obey.”

“Pacific Rim” opens July 12.

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116962, Review embargo is over Monday
Posted by mrshow, Sat Jul-06-13 10:44 PM
Couple people who claimed to see it on Twitter are saying Kanye isn't wrong.
116963, As LexG accurately tweeted, critic reviews don't matter for this...
Posted by Frank Longo, Sun Jul-07-13 12:53 AM
... Because every "critic with a goatee" will obviously call this the best film of the summer. That's been clear since the summer schedule solidified.

The real question: will the critical bonerfest have any impact at ALL on the public? I hope it will... but I'm not so sure.
116964, I have yet to talk to a woman who's said she wants to see this
Posted by Rjcc, Sun Jul-07-13 11:13 AM
which is usually a bad thing for a summer movie's box office.

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
116965, Trailers don't do a good job of selling the characters...
Posted by mrshow, Sun Jul-07-13 01:40 PM
They're putting a ton of faith in word of mouth.
116966, I've yet to talk to a woman with a trustworthy opinion on movies
Posted by BennyTenStack, Mon Jul-08-13 06:20 PM
116967, that ain't what this is about
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jul-08-13 07:58 PM
I think the movie is gonna be doooope

but they haven't convinced women they need to see it.

the only woman I've talked to so far who had anything positive to say swears she knew nothing about the plot and is only going b/c idris and SoA dude are in it

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
116968, Anecdotal, but my wife really wants to see it
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Jul-08-13 09:02 PM
She's a huge Guillermo Del Toro fan, so I don't profess to her being representative of all women. Couple of my friends' wives/girlfriends are also psyched.
116969, my sister didn't want to see it
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jul-09-13 10:08 AM
until she found out it was by del toro, that doesn't appear to be abig enough part of the advertising

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
116970, RE: my sister didn't want to see it
Posted by lfresh, Tue Jul-09-13 10:34 AM
aha!

had us going there for a moment
like you talk to women in real life

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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.
116971, yo, zing!
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jul-09-13 10:48 AM
no.

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
116972, lol
Posted by BennyTenStack, Tue Jul-09-13 09:46 PM
116973, You're not surrounding yourself with the right women.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Jul-09-13 11:35 AM
I know plenty of women with awesome taste in movies.
116974, that is a damn lie
Posted by RobOne4, Tue Jul-09-13 03:21 PM
116975, ... no, it's not?
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Jul-09-13 11:40 PM
Unless you know all of the women in my life and somehow have decrypted the bizarre code of terrible opinion that has seemed like intelligent discourse over the years.
116976, Saw this shit Saturday morning. IMAX 3D this shit with the quickness.
Posted by bwood, Mon Jul-08-13 03:37 PM
No spoilers. I promise. Also, I got to interview del Toro after the screening. I'm surprised he remembered me from November.


What I miss from summer blockbusters is heart. I love Christopher Nolan, but ever since Batman Begins and to a further extent The Dark Knight, we have cynical summer blockbuster for a serious post-911 world.That’s why Pacific Rim, is the summer movie we all needed as even though it’s serious this movie is not a cynical as the blockbuster we’re used to. It’s as if Guillermo del Toro made a live action manga/anime added that missing element, without being campy. And yes, as Kanye West said, this is not a giant robot movie. It’s more than that.

After a mysterious portal open beneath the Pacific Ocean, giant monsters or “Kaiju” start to destroy our planet. We fight back with giant mechs called “Jaegers" that are piloted by two people. After winning the war, we start to lose and mankind makes one last stand to save humanity and the planet.

For those saying these are giant robots and looks like a cross between Transformers and Godzilla please stop. Godzilla is definitely an inspiration but don’t compare this to that travesty of a franchise that Michael Bay directs. These “robots” are really weapons and I would go further saying that they’re just giant suits of armor piloted by fearless warriors. Add to that that most robots have artificial intelligence. And every Kaiju has distinct features and powers that make them stand out from each other.

This is a story about the human struggle. Our trifecta of main characters each has a personal stake in this story. Raleigh Becket (played by Charlie Hunnam), Stacker Pentecost (played by Idris Elba), and Mako Mori (played by the cute Rinko Kikuchi) are the beating heart of this film. And it’s easy to relate to all three characters once the layers are peeled back showing their true nature over the course of the film. Aside from those three the rest of the cast bring their characters to life with such finesse as even the smaller secondary characters have motivations no matter how big or small. Charlie Day and Ron Perlman are standouts in this and really get to shine along with our core trifecta. Hopefully, after this film everyone will become a fan of Idris Elba, Charlie Hunnam and Day, Ron Perlman, Rinko Kikuchi whose work I’ve been following greatly over the years. These people have paid their dues and it’s their time to seriously blow up. And to Tom Cruise, you messed up by not doing this movie and doing Oblivion instead. But that’s okay Idris Elba was the best choice.

Guillermo del Toro has crafted a fully fleshed out world with a scope that’s every sense of the word epic. The fights are some of the best I’ve seen in a while and had my eyes popping out of my head. The scale of the Jaegers and the monsters are incredible, as we watch cities get leveled in some of the best action sequences of the summer. Man of Steel did level Metropolis, but in that case it felt forced and totally unnecessary. Also, the emotion felt between two of the characters is more sincere than that forced kiss between Superman and Lois Lane. Thankfully del Toro didn’t do that with the two characters here because it did seem like they were going to kiss. But yea, you’re in the hands of a master of cinema and the film is impeccably paced, something I haven’t felt in a while. It doesn’t leave with the feeling that it’s going on for too long or that it felt rushed. This is an adrenaline shot to the heart that keeps you going and leaves you exhilarated. I was dead tired when I saw this, and in the first five minutes I was wide awake. Travis Beechman and del Toro’s screenplay is sharp, thankfully not relying on too many clichés we see in most movies (mainstream and independent).

I also, have to give credit to Ramin Djawadi’s score which is seriously rousing. This dude is flexing his Game of Thrones muscles on this score to help bring out the size and scale. Tom Morello’s solos are all over the score as well and they work when the fights are going on. Also, it was cool hearing Djawadi working with Ron Perlman’s daughter Blake and RZA for a song over the credits called “Drift” (produded by Djawadi & RZA, performed by Blake & RZA, and written by all three).

I can’t wait to see to this again. See it on the biggest and loudest theatre you can. The six story IMAX I saw this on this morning must have had the sound turned up to the highest possible level. The 3D is more than worth the price as it’s some of the best 3D I’ve seen this year, as it fully immerses you in the film. Stick through the credits as there’s a surprise.

116977, your feelings on this are a litmus test
Posted by bshelly, Tue Jul-09-13 09:42 AM
you can't fuck with this, i can't fuck with you.
116978, your feelings on this are a litmus test
Posted by bshelly, Tue Jul-09-13 09:43 AM
you can't fuck with this, i can't fuck with you.
116979, Seriously. Giant fucking robots fight giant fucking monsters.
Posted by mrhood75, Tue Jul-09-13 11:25 AM
What do you need, a road map? (c) Ben Geisler
116980, To have a even more fulfilling experience read the graphic novel
Posted by bwood, Wed Jul-10-13 11:40 AM
To quote Travis Beacham’s introduction “People, after all, are what makes the best mythology feel truly sprawling and alive….Because, like I said, the story is in the world; not the other way around.” This is why Pacific Rim and the prequel graphic novel Tales from Year Zero are so rich. This is a world about the human characters and their struggle and relationship with the people around them.

There are four stories in Tales from Year Zero, that give some background on the origin of the Jaegers, Stacker Pentecost (played by Idris Elba), K-Day (the day the first Kaji arrived in San Francisco), and finally Raleigh Beckett’s relationship with his brother intertwined with Stacker’s story. These, again, are all human stories with personal stakes for the main character in every story. These stories do not have a happy ending showing this is a real world, with real stakes and consequences.

What I love is that it gives some (further) background to Stacker. He’s one of my favorite characters and you really get inside his head to see what makes him tick. He’s a hard ass, but a hard ass that cares. This book gives you the detail as to why he’s a hard ass. He’s a man who’s lost so much.

There are also new characters, with stories just as heartbreaking. The Jaeger origin story, to me, is the best story in the book. At its core it is a love story that would play out in real life. The dynamic shifts between the male and female characters over the course of the story, which to me is great writing and something you rarely see in comics. This goes back to a conversation I was having the other day with people saying how easily people give up on relationship instead of trying to make them work and here both very reluctantly give up on each other.

It you want an even more rewarding experience into the world of Pacific Rim, then dive head first into this graphic novel. Even if you don’t see the movie, Pacific Rim: Tales from Year Zero is more than worth a read.
116981, This is a very well written review *swipe*
Posted by bwood, Wed Jul-10-13 04:41 PM
http://badassdigest.com/2013/07/08/pacific-rim-movie-review-saving-the-world-saving-the-summer/


Published July 08, 2013 by Devin Faraci
PACIFIC RIM Movie Review: Saving The World, Saving The Summer

It's kaiju versus mech in a movie that epitomizes what blockbuster cinema can be.
PACIFIC RIM Movie Review: Saving The World, Saving The Summer

We remember being prey. Somewhere in some deep part of our brain is the collective racial memory of being a small mammal, cornered by something much bigger and toothier than us. Today we’re top of the food chain, but that small mammal is still there, and it makes us fascinated with the idea of our place in the current natural order being upset. It makes itself known not only in our interest in stories of humans becoming fodder for predators - Timothy Treadwell and his bears, the occasional media frenzy over shark attacks - but in our interest in stories of natural catastrophes, of earthquakes and enormous tornadoes, of elements of nature that dwarf us and remind us that, for all of our technology and smarts, we’re no match for a wind that’s blowing fast enough.

Giant monsters - kaiju - are where those two elements meet in our fiction. We are to them in the food chain as ants are to us - a nuisance at the picnic. And like natural disasters they are an unstoppable force, engines of destruction that can only be survived. But all the best kaiju stories are the ones where, in the end, people figure out how to do more than survive. They figure out how to take the fight to the hurricane, and they figure out how to win.

Pacific Rim is the story of what happens when the winning stops.

In the near future giant monsters begin emerging from the depths of the Pacific Ocean. They rampage in our coastal cities; conventional weapons take literally days to defeat the beasts. Cities disappear into rubble before the kaiju can be stopped. As the situation appears to be more desperate - as the kaiju begin coming more frequently - a new technological initiative is created. It’s the Jaeger program, and these giant mechs have the strength and firepower to go toe-to-toe with the kaiju, and to win.

That becomes the new status quo - the world is now a place where sometimes monsters rise from the waters and brave pilots in metal suits hundreds of feet tall punch them into submission. And for a while it works. It looks like humanity is winning. Then the tide begins to turn. The kaiju come more often, their frequency and size escalating. The Jaeger program suffers crippling defeats, and the monsters come faster than humanity can build new mechs.

This is the world where Pacific Rim, after a prologue, begins. It’s a world on the verge of losing the greatest battle in human history. It’s a world where people have begun to give up; rather than fight the monsters they’ve decided to sink all their effort into massive coastal walls that - theoretically - can keep the monsters away from populated areas. Rather than stand up and take back the planet, humans have resigned themselves to being shut away in walled nations, ceding parts of the Earth to the beasts.

Raleigh Becket represents the state of humanity. Once a hotshot Jaeger pilot, he’s been down and out for five years after a huge battle that all but destroyed his mech, Gipsy Danger, and killed his co-pilot - his brother, Yancy. The twist in Jaeger tech is that the machine is too big to be controlled by one pilot. Two pilots must mind-meld in what is known as The Drift, each operating one half of the robot, working in perfect unison to execute the moves and attacks that stop the kaiju from destroying our cities. But that means when Raleigh’s brother is killed in a battle off the coast of Alaska he feels it all - Yancy’s fear, pain and eventual disappearance. Burnt out, Raleigh now takes dangerous, menial jobs on the coastal wall, climbing thousands of feet and risking his life for a ration card.

But you know how this story goes. The Kaiju War isn’t done with Raleigh. One day his old boss, Marshal Stacker Pentecost, shows up at Raleigh’s worksite. They need him back for one last mission. The big mission: this time they’re taking the fight to the Rift, the undersea dimensional portal from which kaiju are spewed. They’re shutting it down, and Stacker needs Raleigh back, piloting the rebuilt Gipsy Danger.

Of course it isn’t that simple. Humanity has tried destroying the Breach before, but it’s never worked. Pentecost is desperate now, as funding for the Jaeger program has been rescinded and what was once an operation with dozens of giant bots is now down to four mechs. This is the last chance to close that hole - if they can just figure out how to get it done.

That’s the first fifteen minutes or so of Pacific Rim. What follows is a profoundly epic story that also manages to stay profoundly human, as the remaining pilots and support staff of the Jaeger program overcome their differences and their issues to stand up and save the world. It’s a square-jawed, straight arrow sort of story where even the hot-headed young Aussie pilot who tussles with Raleigh - he sees the older pilot as the sort of wash-out who has doomed the program - is, at heart, a hero.

Guillermo del Toro has achieved a feat of world building unseen on movie screens since Star Wars. This is a rich, full, detailed universe that lives at the very corner of the frame. Pacific Rim is set in the kind of fully realized world where you believe if the camera went down a different corridor or street, you would find a rich story populated with fascinating characters. There are sequences in Pacific Rim that have the same depth of construction as the Mos Eisley cantina scene in Star Wars, that have the sense of a place that existed before the camera turned on and will continue existing after our heroes have moved along.

If that was all Pacific Rim offered it would stand as a Star Wars for a new generation. But it has more than that. It’s the rare modern blockbuster that does big scale action correctly. Every punch has momentum, every impact has weight, every step of the Jaegers and the kaiju is felt. The action, while often taking place at night, is clear and understandable. The stakes are always palpable and high, and the action is constantly thrilling. There are a number of enormous set pieces with one - a kaiju attack on Hong Kong - being one of the greatest action sequences of this century, not only in terms of visceral thrill but also storytelling quality. During my second viewing of the movie I sat behind a boy who looked to be about eight or nine, and he was involuntarily fist pumping during the entire scene.

That kid is the avowed target audience of Pacific Rim. We live in a world where comic book characters created for ten year olds are now the sole province of thirty year old misanthropes. Guillermo del Toro is looking to take action fantasy back to its original, and best, crowd. This is a movie designed frame by frame to make kids explode with excitement and imagination, and it’s a movie that will reactivate that purity in even old fogies. Pacific Rim makes you feel like a kid, not because it’s stupid (it isn’t) or because it’s silly (it can be, but in the right way) but because it will fill you with the sort of awe and joy you had when you first saw Ray Harryhausen’s skeletons fight or Godzilla first trample Tokyo or the Millenium Falcon show up out of nowhere at the Death Star. While humanity is in dire straits in Pacific Rim this isn’t some sort of Nolan-esque meditation on the futility of heroism or the failings of men - it’s a movie about triumph and hope and overcoming all odds. And for the ten year olds, it’s about how little people can stand up to even the biggest monsters.

Del Toro and screenwriter Travis Beacham have populated the dense world of Pacific Rim with a bunch of great characters. I’m not normally one for Charlie Day, but his scientist character Newt Geizler is one of the highlights of the movie. He has a number of scenes with Ron Perlman’s black market kaiju parts dealer Hannibal Chau (I won’t spoil the origin of his name) that are at once hilarious and also deeply, powerfully world-building. In another movie this stuff would be comic relief; in Pacific Rim it’s the sort of stuff that could spin off into its own TV series or role playing game.

The pilots and crews of the Jaeger program have walked directly out of an anime. Head technician Tenso Choi (Clifton Collins Jr) has one of those rockabilly bouffants popular in certain Japanese animation. The Russian pilots, with their platinum hair, are as stylized as cartoons. The Australian pilots have a cute bulldog sidekick (don’t worry, he’s no Chim Chim). Each of these characters are a color in the larger spectrum of the human story of Pacific Rim, and they’re each applied with broad brushstokes. Again I come to the Star Wars comparison - in a just world we’re looking at a future where there’s an anthology of short stories that delves into each of these characters and their histories. Pacific Rim is a movie that leaves you wanting more; it’s the rare modern movie that will send you looking for supplemental material so you can experience more of the world.

Those are the side characters. At the center of the story is Raleigh, played by Charlie Hunnam. I’ve never been a Hunnam guy - his American accent remains unconvincing, even after many years on Sons of Anarchy - but he has the chops to play the sort of straight-backed hero this movie needs. Some will complain about a lack of complexity in Raleigh, but I found his basic decency and heroism refreshing. In a movie landscape where the heroes refuse the call every single time, where they need a personal revenge motivator to become heroes, where they have feet of clay and are constantly unsure of themselves, Raleigh is the rare hero doing it because it has to be done. His personal history with the kaiju doesn’t motivate him to seek revenge - it’s the block that he must overcome to do his job right.

Hunnam has a tendency to get overwhelmed by the characters around him. To me he’s the equivalent of Keith from Voltron - was that ever anyone’s favorite character? While Raleigh is the main character of Pacific Rim I would argue that it’s Stacker Pentecost who is the central character. Played with ultimate badass ferocity by Idris Elba, Pentecost is the driving force that keeps the Jaeger program together, is the tough leader who keeps the multinational pilot crew moving forward and is the driven tactician behind the last ditch effort to save the world. His character is filled with complexity, from his strange personal vulnerability to his relationship with Mako Mori, his assistant who is also the perfect companion to Drift with Raleigh in Gipsy Danger. Elba brings many shades to Pentecost, some of which he gets across with only a look while alone in an elevator.

Rinko Kikuchi is Mori, whose childhood experience in kaiju-devastated Tokyo presents the movie’s single most jaw-dropping sequence. Guillermo del Toro understands the scale with which he’s working and this sequence, where young Mori is chased down city streets by a twenty-story tall monster, smacks you with that scale. It’s also an emotionally shattering bit of filmmaking, the moment where you most understand the human toll of the wanton destruction wreaked by the kaiju. It’s Pacific Rim in a nutshell: beautiful, sobering, thrilling.

Kikuchi is fine; like Hunnam her character gets slightly overwhelmed by the movie’s plethora of colorful side characters. My biggest positive critique of Pacific Rim is that I wanted more of everything - more of the characters, more of the world, more of the monsters and more of the Jaegers - while my biggest negative critique is that these two central characters never quite take command of the movie. The Drift presents a great device to allow the two to get to know each other, but the movie ends up having them sitting over lunch having a long talk about their feelings. It’s one of Pacific Rim’s few wrong notes - the opportunity to show rather than tell is there (and is used to some extent; Raleigh experiences Mori’s Tokyo trauma through the Drift), so why tell?

Still, that’s a minor complaint. Luke and Leia were never my favorite Star Wars characters either. And even if these aren’t the most gripping leads, the characters remain strong and interesting. I never wanted the movie to get away from Mori and Raleigh. I was in love with Pentecost and Geizler and Chau and Choi and the others, but I was happy to stay with the story of these two leads.

What makes Pacific Rim work isn’t one character or Jaeger or kaiju (although I think we’ll all have our favorites for sure), it’s the way del Toro and Beacham bring them all together. This is a movie about teamwork, about sacrifice and about getting past the bullshit to do something important and difficult. It’s a rousing movie about the way human beings can set their mind to something and accomplish it. Yeah, we’ve fucked up. Yeah, we’ve made mistakes. But we’ve also done incredible things, performed impossible feats and tamed some of the very forces of nature. When we’re at our worst we can be destructive, divisive and horrible. When we’re at our best we can change the course of the world with our will.

Pacific Rim is a movie about that is, thrillingly, upliftingly about that. And it also has giant mechs punching the shit out of giant monsters. This is what blockbuster movies should be.
116982, Going to a 7 pm showing tonight
Posted by mrshow, Thu Jul-11-13 06:32 PM
Interested to see if it's sold out.
116983, Godzilla meets ID4 meets Daimos/Grandizer/70s Japan robot cartoons
Posted by TRENDone, Fri Jul-12-13 03:18 PM
With a little Matrix and Last Samurai lol. My brother and I couldn't stop talking about how the "jagers" were rips (or homages) to the old 70s japanese robot cartoons we grew up on, particularly Daimos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ZmW0TSVMw

i liked it better than Iron Man 3 and ALL of the Transformers movies. It got me geeked about how the Voltron movie will look on the big screen.

yes, there were holes in the plot but it's my fav. summer movie so far.
116984, fucking amazing. and COMPLETELY shits on all transformer flicks.
Posted by poetx, Sun Jul-14-13 06:25 PM
oh my damn.

it really had everything.

saw it a couple hrs ago... still hype.


peace & blessings,

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116985, It's terrific. My full review here:
Posted by Frank Longo, Fri Jul-12-13 04:18 PM
http://exm.nr/18bLGYE

Cliff Notes: awesome. Incredible world he's built, and he explores it fully. The Hong Kong action is all-time level stuff.
116986, great review. you captured the essence of what was great
Posted by poetx, Sun Jul-14-13 10:00 PM
about this movie.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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** i move away from the mic to breathe in
116987, Great review. Agree completely.
Posted by bski, Tue Jul-16-13 01:50 AM
Especially the Hong Kong sequence.
I was so geeked out, smiling from ear to ear.



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116988, I LOVED EVERY SINGLE MINUTE
Posted by IslaSoul, Fri Jul-12-13 06:25 PM

What an awesome movie this is,
the fights were intense
best big budget movie I've seen this year.
116989, KANYE WON, shit was fun nm
Posted by ZooTown74, Fri Jul-12-13 06:30 PM
It played out like a feature-length version of the toy battles I had when I was a youngin

And that's not a diss

The battles were what we paid to see, and they were as good as advertised

Charlie Day and ol' boy were cool as the buffonish scientists, and Idris was cool though it would have been nice to see Stacker in action before the final fight, like when he talks about the mission that gave him cancer (I don't recall seeing it)

And Ron Perlman was fantastically over-the-top

Oh, you want to know what I thought about Charlie Hunnam and Rinko Kinkuchi?

*cough*

So yeah, man, this was fun...

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116990, It felt very "a new hope" star warsy to me
Posted by IceburgSmurf, Fri Jul-12-13 07:53 PM
the plot and script were very basic but the sense of spectacle was great. I enjoyed it but my 16yr old nephew was left very cold by it his opinion was it was better than iron man 3 but not as good as man of steel.

I imagine that demographic plays a significant role in blockbusteryness.

In any event i wish i'd seen it in 3D for the first time in a while i really enjoyed the cgi in a blockbuster.
116991, the 12 y/o and i loved it
Posted by Selah, Fri Jul-12-13 10:24 PM
in proper context (a popcorn movie, not for deep thought, about giant robots and giant monsters fighting) best movie of the summer

116992, What I wanted from Avatar on a bunch of levels
Posted by mrshow, Sat Jul-13-13 01:23 AM
It's an epic sci-fi adventure yarn. Charlie Hunnan's accent is distracting but the rest of the cast more than makes up for it. I might prefer Hellboy 2 but I'm almost definitely seeing this again so my opinion could change.
116993, didnt care for it
Posted by navajo joe, Sat Jul-13-13 09:02 AM
116994, I loved the hell out of this
Posted by crow, Sat Jul-13-13 11:51 AM
The fights were awesome. It was incredibly ridiculous. Couldnt' have wanted more from it.

It was also very well paced, it did not feel long at all and for me not to get up and take a piss all movie says a lot lol.

I think a lot of folks won't enjoy it honestly. Even if you have a tiny bit of nerd in you tho, you will love the hell out of this.
116995, ILL
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Sat Jul-13-13 03:23 PM
Big O is one of my favorite shows (what up elbow rocket punch), and I like Eva despite Shinji so this movie is everything to me.
116996, (Q) how was it? (A): see 'me punching air' in IMAX theater...
Posted by Voodoochilde, Sat Jul-13-13 05:05 PM
...yeah...yeah...THAT was funfunFUN dammit!!!

simple as that. genuine fun. best time i've had at movies so far this summer by far.

and GORGEOUSly shot! whew that movie is GOOD LOOKING!

As is the adorable Rinko Kikuchi who played Mako...lovely...what red blooded fella wouldnt come outta this with a crush on her?

Idris held it down for sure, dude is a star any way you look at it. Charlie Day and Burn Gorman were good fun too. I thought the guy who played the Aussie pops did a good job as well.

best acting in my book goes easily to Mana Ashida...the young actress who plays young Mako. seriously, she nailed it in what screen-time she had...awesome.

Story was fine, not too heavy...but not too light either. it was...'just right' for what this movie is supposed to be ALL about pretty much...(which is, in my mind, a BIG old heap of Fun and Fantastic with just a dash of Fear)...it was supposed to spectacle to behold and it absolutely was....

...did i mention this was a gorgeous film to watch? (saw it in IMAX 3D btw....sound was mindblowing too )....

oh damn, i almost forgot...LOVED the 'theme' music too. i was humming that shit on the ride home...

big fun people, big fun....worth yer bucks for sure....
116997, RE: (Q) how was it? (A): see 'me punching air' in IMAX theater...
Posted by Voodoochilde, Sat Jul-13-13 07:56 PM

>
>simple as that. genuine fun. best time i've had at movies so
>far this summer by far.
>


**with the exception of "This Is The End"**
obviously that was crazy-ass-fun
116998, Good by comparison. Just okay by its own merits.
Posted by stylez dainty, Sat Jul-13-13 05:10 PM
The creature design and most of the jaeger design was really interesting and fun. Wish all of the Jaegers had the bizarre touches of the russian one.

The fights were exciting. For someone that loves his creatures and mechanics so much, kind of surprised Del Toro didn't let us get a better look at them, but you could see enough to have a general sense of who was doing what most of the time.

Liked the Godzilla-themed music used during the creature rampage.

Plot, script and characters were mediocre to bad. Elba and Day gave good performances considering.

In lots of ways felt like a very close cousin to Starship Troopers, and manages to be bizarrely engrossing in the same ways, and knowingly cheesy in the same way, too. Not a huge fan of that tone, but better than the dead-serious tone of other blockbusters like Man of Steel and the worst parts of the Nolan Batman films. Hence the good by comparison comment.
116999, It was fun.
Posted by Castro, Sat Jul-13-13 07:48 PM
117000, Goddamnit, I got a goddamn question - SPOILER goddamnit
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sat Jul-13-13 09:31 PM






Why is Idris always playing the sacrificial, heroic negro?

The same damn role in Prometheus.








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117001, thanks for the goddamn spoiler
Posted by BigWorm, Sun Jul-14-13 07:01 AM
117002, Shit! My bad
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sun Jul-14-13 02:12 PM
117003, thanks for spoiling.
Posted by doberman, Sun Jul-14-13 10:38 AM
Yeah..I probably could have guessed that's how it would go down...but still.

You need to edit the subject to not do the same for everyone else simply coming in here to see if the okp fam blesses it or not before they go see it.
117004, Sorry fam
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sun Jul-14-13 02:12 PM
117005, LMAO...niggas in here RUINING the movie...bwahahaha
Posted by Orbit_Established, Sun Jul-14-13 10:16 PM



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117006, It's a 180 million dollar B-Movie
Posted by SoulHonky, Sun Jul-14-13 04:45 AM
Was hoping that Del Toro would elevate it some but it's basically a very expensive big stupid movie and nothing remotely more. Couple of cool fights. Almost zero story or character development. One of those films that, if it's in your wheelhouse, you'll forgive its flaws but if not... well, then there's not much there.
117007, Hot flames........DEM VISUALS
Posted by Deebot, Sun Jul-14-13 11:04 AM
Never thought I'd see the girl from Babel again, much less in a big role in a blockbuster.

The sound effects were equally as impressive as the visuals.

The pacing was excellent, I never looked at my watch.

4.25/5
117008, ^^^^ the sound effects definitely made it epic
Posted by Castro, Sun Jul-14-13 02:45 PM
117009, shit, that *was* her
Posted by will_5198, Sun Jul-28-13 09:04 PM
I thought the sound effects were even better than the visuals (which were often disorientating). you felt like you were right there.

the pacing was probably the most surprising part. I knew the running time and was waiting for a grind, but it never happened. which is shocking, since the characters were such cut-outs.
117010, WHERE'S THE KAIJU, STRING?!!!
Posted by Deebot, Sun Jul-14-13 11:30 AM
117011, Great longform on del Toro's love for horror..
Posted by wallysmith, Sun Jul-14-13 06:08 PM
and insights to his design for Smaug (in The Hobbit)

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/07/110207fa_fact_zalewski?mobify=0
117012, My review is the mirror image of Longo's
Posted by bshelly, Sun Jul-14-13 06:43 PM
these characters are boilerplate, and the story, script, and acting aren't strong. the main character, in particular, is terrible.

the eye candy is great, but not THAT great. or maybe it is, but i just didn't care enough about the world they created that i didn't care if it got saved.
117013, you were in a bad mood walking into it
Posted by Deebot, Sun Jul-14-13 08:39 PM
the visuals weren't that great? Damn son, that's asinine.
117014, See post #68
Posted by mrhood75, Sun Jul-14-13 11:34 PM
117015, you should never have gone to see it
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jul-15-13 04:29 PM


http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
117016, well...the apocalypse got canceled...lol
Posted by DJ007, Sun Jul-14-13 06:59 PM
loved it and totally agree with those who felt a starship troopers vibe from it- spot on!
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117017, Felt a bit long, but so damn fun (SPOILER)
Posted by Marauder21, Sun Jul-14-13 09:12 PM
And how great was Ron Perlman's "Sam-Jack-in-Deep-Blue-Sea" moment?
117018, outstanding visuals/meh story and characters
Posted by SankofaII, Sun Jul-14-13 09:38 PM
I wished they didn't film most of the movie in blackness/in the dark because it would have been cool to see the kaiju or more of them during the day...it was still great though.

I hope Del Toro gets some technical awards and oscar nominations seriously.

the story? was thin and just wasn't strong enough to match up with the visuals.

the characters were paper thin but shout out to the cast for doing the most with what they got.

it's a shame because the version I read of this there was way more character development and you cared for the characters more...

I dig Charlie Hunnam...I just don't think he's leading man material. I struggled to be invested in his character and he didn't always pop on the screen which was most of the movie.

Riko Kinkuchi was great though...but damn they had her crying nearly every 10 minutes...i was like damn, I know her eyes be hurtin and shit.

the little girl that played her as a child....GREAT! she ran with what little she had.

Charlie Day and Ron Pearlman: Charlie Day really was NOT funny. Ron Pearlman is Ron....so yea.

Idris Elba: I really wish folk would stop saying he was so good in this; he didn't have much to do at all save for bark orders, glare and people and look constipated when he was trying to *NOT* be emotional. yea, he's most definitely a better choice than Tom Cruise, but not really.

All in all, a good 7/10 for me.
117019, I agree with all this..
Posted by ODotSoHot, Fri Jul-19-13 02:05 PM
Also hated Idris' stupid ass haircut.
117020, Incredibly cheesy. (spoilers)
Posted by IkeMoses, Mon Jul-15-13 01:01 AM
But enjoyable enough.

Loved the visual design. The aesthetic went perfect with the world. For all the Transformers comparisons, I saw more Ridley Scott on screen than anything.

The dialogue made me cringe. I don't have the energy for ironic enjoyment anymore. To be honest, I never had the energy. Shit was not a pleasure to listen to.

(the spoiler part)

My favorite part of the movie was the memory sequence with Baby Mako being hunted by the kaiju. That felt like Pan's Labyrinth del Toro on a huge scale and I loved it. Would have loved to see a two hour movie about a little girl surviving in a kaiju ravaged city waiting to be rescued by jaegers, instead of the Independence Day arc we got instead.
117021, Blade Runner still influencing what the future will look like
Posted by will_5198, Sun Jul-28-13 09:00 PM
31 years later.

>My favorite part of the movie was the memory sequence with
>Baby Mako being hunted by the kaiju. That felt like Pan's
>Labyrinth del Toro on a huge scale and I loved it. Would have
>loved to see a two hour movie about a little girl surviving in
>a kaiju ravaged city waiting to be rescued by jaegers, instead
>of the Independence Day arc we got instead.

same here. he wouldn't have gotten $190 million to make that version, but the "living-in-your-memories" premise was one of the highlights of the movie.
117022, Main character was trash
Posted by Metal Face, Mon Jul-15-13 10:10 AM
he added nothing but the hero white guy element. i didn't care about him at all.

didn't care for the forced comedy between the two doctors. i wanted a slightly more serious tone.

Mako should have been the main character. they should have started w/kaiju coming through and crushing the buildings, idris saving baby mako, and develop from there. but i know the suits wouldn't let a japanese actress and a black actor lead this movie.

i wanted to see the chinese bols more.

very disappointed 6.5/10
117023, Smoking a spliff @ IMAX 10 minutes before show time
Posted by Benedict the Moor, Mon Jul-15-13 10:11 AM
certainly augmented the experience for me.

Didn't care about any of the main characters. Charlie and Perlman's scenes were the high spots of the film. Gorman low key beasted as well. I kept imagining lee evans from something about mary when he was on screen.

Cinematography was dope (the only reason I cared about this movie in the first place). Del Toro definitely presented a unique visual perspective that I'm not sure I've seen before - think Cloverfield minus the shitty camera. Though during some of the fight sequences, I had no clue wtf was going on.

Monsters/aliens were overly dumb (as always) and hyper aggressive. I swear these aliens need some anger management training on their home planets.

Overall good movie if you don't care about plot/character development.
117024, I'm shocked at this
Posted by Deebot, Mon Jul-15-13 07:32 PM
>Though during some
>of the fight sequences, I had no clue wtf was going on.

The fights in this film were waaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy easier to follow than fights in most big-budget action films. I thought they were pretty much perfect.
117025, i was really high, man
Posted by Benedict the Moor, Tue Jul-16-13 07:27 AM
117026, i wasn't & still fell asleep during the 2nd to last fight
Posted by jigga, Tue Jul-16-13 09:30 AM
had the same problem

couldn't see what has happening & couldn't care less after awhile either

when they showed the first kaiju come across the bridge in broad daylight it looked awesome

most of the fights @ night were tough to follow
117027, RE: i wasn't & still fell asleep during the 2nd to last fight
Posted by Benedict the Moor, Tue Jul-16-13 09:51 AM
a lot of the closeups looked like a mishmash of metal and scales flailing around the screen. i was cool w/ the wider shots though.
117028, Charlie Hunnam was channeling Garrett Hedlund in Tron Legacy
Posted by jigga, Tue Jul-16-13 09:44 AM
I mean he was a bit better but I just couldn't get past that vibe the entire time. Idris was cool but didn't have enough to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK8sxngSWaU
117029, 2-D or 3-D?
Posted by handle, Tue Jul-16-13 10:47 AM
I generally don't like 3d, because of the brightness issues, and because I wear glasses and the 3-D glasses are usually so small that they become uncomfortable over my glasses.

Does this have to be seen in 3-D?

Any advice?
117030, post-converted. not necessary
Posted by ternary_star, Tue Jul-16-13 01:51 PM
117031, i saw it in 3D at Imax, and i really think 2D would be
Posted by Jon, Tue Jul-16-13 06:16 PM
better.

the 3D made certain things seem compressed and smashed in for me, and the depth just looked off in other scenes.

it also made certain action scenes that were already challenging to follow even harder to make out.

lastly, since so much of the action is shot at night, the dimming effect of the glasses really doesn't do the movie any favors.


All that being said though:

one thing that looks AWESOME in 3D are the huge indoor spaces featured in the movie, like this construction site and the place where they work on the robots.
117032, This is my concern
Posted by handle, Tue Jul-16-13 11:44 PM
>lastly, since so much of the action is shot at night, the dimming effect of the glasses really doesn't do the movie any favors.

2D it is. (If I got some Avatar level comments then 3-D might have been in the cards.)
117033, LOL. anyone who said you should ever see avatar at all
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jul-17-13 03:26 AM
should be shot in the face.

Hideo Kojima says see it in 3D.

but hey, he only made Metal Gear. I'm sure some random assholes are better sources of info

https://twitter.com/hideo_kojima_en/status/357412239478755330

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117034, You are a dismissive fucker
Posted by handle, Wed Jul-17-13 11:36 AM
Hope Hideo Kojima and you are having a super time.
117035, I'm a person who actually researches things and knows what they're
Posted by Rjcc, Thu Jul-18-13 02:51 PM
talking about.

also, I don't like shitty movies like Avatar.

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117036, yeah Avatar's 3D was mind-blowing. This one's nothing like it
Posted by Jon, Wed Jul-17-13 07:36 PM
117037, the effects are native 3D.
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jul-16-13 07:28 PM

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

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117038, RE: 2-D or 3-D?
Posted by Benedict the Moor, Wed Jul-17-13 09:56 AM
2D.. 3D was lackluster IMO
117039, this is why god invented film
Posted by fire, Wed Jul-17-13 01:20 AM
wonderful from start to finish (except for the sappy shit at the end)
117040, ^^^^Epic shit. 300 like the Romans.
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jul-17-13 03:26 AM

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117041, lol gotta love that line
Posted by Jon, Wed Jul-17-13 07:37 PM
117042, average...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Wed Jul-17-13 10:45 AM
..not great, but certainly good enough to earn praise (and solid box office #s)

this film certainly had its flaws (over-acting by the ENTIRE cast), but its still entertaining. while i was a bit disappointed in the vets (elba, hunnam, perlman, & martini), i'm placing most of that fault on the del toro.

that and a weak script.

the premise was fine. its not that this story needed a ton of details and dialogue, but its appears they spent most of their efforts on cgi. in the end, the good guy saves the world & gets the girl. isn't that what all summer blockbusters are about?

C+


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B7E8dge7H8Y

*GLSC*

..and miles to go before i sleep...
117043, i don't see any summer movie topping this
Posted by theprofessional, Wed Jul-17-13 07:53 PM
THE GOOD:

- just stellar execution of concept. i mean, robots vs. monsters is a pretty generic idea that could go a million ways, most of them terrible. but they packed this with so much more awesome than any two-hour movie should contain, almost to the point where there's no room for a sequel. love that they held nothing back. the jaeger swinging a battleship like a bat... i mean, just too much awesome to even discuss.

- the sequence where mako blacks out into the childhood memory of being chased by a kaiju was pure eye candy. very pan's labyrinth. loved it.

- when that one thing happened in hong kong where the kaiju picked up gipsy danger and did that awesome thing that i won't spoil, my inner geek busted a nut. also, i busted a nut.

THE GRIPES:

- i wish the san fran scene was an actual scene. as overdone as large-scale attacks on american cities are, i still wanted to see it. also would've been cool just to see a daylight action scene, as they were pretty few.

- the scene where charlie from it's always sunny drifts with the aliens and tells stringer their plan was such a direct rip-off of ID4, it was amazing. right down to the alien motivation. almost a word-for-word rip-off of the bill pullman scene. can't anyone think of a better reason for aliens to invade us? also, isn't sending huge monsters to knock stuff over just about the least efficient way possible to exterminate the human race?

- i hate 3D. i don't know why i saw it in 3D. it's like watching a movie with sunglasses on. a movie where most of the action occurs at night. so needless to say, there are several scenes where there's robots and monsters flailing around and you just have no idea what you're looking at. don't see it in 3D.
117044, Pretty damn cool. I kinda geeked when the sword came out.
Posted by Solaam, Fri Jul-19-13 02:16 AM
117045, At moments like that I wonder why they didn't START with the sword?
Posted by handle, Fri Jul-19-13 02:55 PM
I mean, wouldn't that have been a smarter strategy?
117046, the fight scenes never make much sense...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Sat Jul-20-13 10:25 PM
..outside of entertainment

tactics rarely have anything to do with it


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B7E8dge7H8Y


..and miles to go before i sleep...
117047, in what way is building a massive humanoid robot the best strategy
Posted by Rjcc, Sun Jul-21-13 11:29 AM
there's no possible explanation for this

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117048, hilarious...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Sun Jul-21-13 12:29 PM



*skatin' the rings of saturn*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B7E8dge7H8Y


..and miles to go before i sleep...
117049, Right.
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Mon Jul-22-13 10:00 AM

i'm out.
_____________________
"WHOLESALE REUSABLE GROCERY BAGS!!"
@etfp
117050, like, you know what's better than rocket powered elbow punch?
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jul-22-13 11:08 AM
A ROCKET.

OR A LOT OF ROCKETS.

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117051, Just leave a shitload of nuke mines near the trench.
Posted by Frank Longo, Mon Jul-22-13 02:13 PM
Problem solved.

Except then we wouldn't get a movie with awesome robots fighting awesome monsters.

But it would be the most logical course of action.
117052, awesome
Posted by fire, Sat Jul-20-13 03:14 PM
117053, Felt like I died and went to Otaku and A/Vphile heaven
Posted by LA2Philly, Sun Jul-21-13 02:40 AM
Saw it in 3D at a Dolby atmos equipped theater at the Arclight...holeeeeee shit. My jaw literally dropped when the first Kaiju attacking the bridge was shown. Atmos was made for this type of sound.

The character development was pretty much what I expected. My main gripe was in terms of the repetitive Kaiju design...wish there was some more variety like we saw with the gorilla-esque one in Tokyo.

Enjoyed the hell out of the film, worth every penny.
117054, kicked so much ass u dont care bout the generic humans
Posted by araQual, Sun Jul-21-13 10:54 PM
V.
117055, So you guys liked this dumb shit?
Posted by Nopayne, Mon Jul-22-13 01:26 AM
c'mon yo.
117056, if you think this is dumb then you're dumb
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jul-22-13 11:06 AM
period

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117057, yeah these cornynerdballfanboys are out of their minds
Posted by UncleClimax, Mon Jul-22-13 02:49 PM
shit was trash..my lil sister forced me to go see it with her yesterday...man that shit was wack as fuck.
117058, this was a fantastic movie
Posted by MistaGoodBar, Mon Jul-22-13 10:39 AM
117059, I love it!!! shrug
Posted by astralblak, Mon Jul-22-13 01:42 PM
and i just don't understand the weak character development critique at all. meeko and jax had depth...

also its cool for MANY white actors to play the "cold as ice, get the military job done by any means, sacrificial hero" role/schtick, but when Idris does it (and well) all of the sudden its a problem and he aint get much to work with?
117060, I was ten years old again for 131 minutes
Posted by YaBoy...Holla@ME, Mon Jul-29-13 12:40 AM
Seriously had to stop myself from exclaiming some variation of "oh shit!" at least 23 times

The Hong Kong scene? Unquestionably the greatest action sequence on film
117061, I wonder if Warners is proceeding with the sequel
Posted by ZooTown74, Mon Jul-29-13 03:26 AM
____________________________________________________________________________________________
But Zootown, black people and media, so...
117062, was there an opening for a sequel?
Posted by ternary_star, Mon Jul-29-13 08:10 AM
117063, Del Toro's talked about it
Posted by magilla vanilla, Mon Jul-29-13 09:56 AM
The basic logic is, sure the Breach might have been blown up, but all the kaiju weren't. They've drifted with humans, who think the threat is gone. And now they have obliterated Jaeger parts to work with. Wouldn't be surprised if PR2 takes place on both sides of the new breach. Maybe multiple breaches.
117064, THANK YOU BASED CHINA!!! *swipe*
Posted by bwood, Thu Aug-01-13 09:22 AM
http://collider.com/pacific-rim-2-sequel-box-office/

There’s hope for a Pacific Rim sequel yet! Though Guillermo del Toro’s original tentpole scored a respectable—if underwhelming—$37 million opening domestically, the effects-heavy pic is unlikely to hit the $100 million benchmark here in the states. However, given its international cast and the universal language of “monsters and robots beating the ever-living shit out of each other,” the long-game for Pacific Rim always hinged on it playing well overseas—and indeed it has. The pic’s foreign box office total currently stands at $140 million, and the film just opened in China to a record-breaking $9 million on Wednesday. That’s the highest debut ever for a Warner Bros. film in China, and Deadline reports that the result of the performance is that Pacific Rim will “likely have a sequel.”

While the expansive (and gorgeous) visual effects for Pacific Rim meant that the budget for the tentpole sat somewhere between $180-$220 million, the film’s worldwide box office total currently stands at $224 million. Though that budget doesn’t include the cost of marketing, Pacific Rim’s success at the box office overseas means that there will now be a built-in audience for the PR brand, making the prospects of greenlighting a sequel that much more attractive.

This is excellent news for fans of del Toro and screenwriter Travis Beacham’s creation, as the duo crafted an incredibly intricate and colorful world that demands to be explored further. Quite a while ago, Legendary Entertainment enlisted the two to start drafting an outline and screenplay for a Pacific Rim sequel, so there are no doubt plenty of ideas in place for where the follow-up can go. Del Toro previously hinted that Dr. Geiszler (Charlie Day) drifting with a kajiu brain is something that will be explored further in the sequel, but mostly I’m just eager to dive back into the world of Pacific Rim.

Pacific Rim 2 has yet to receive an official greenlight and we haven’t heard anything from Legendary or Warner Bros. with regards to the follow-up, but the first film’s box office performance in China certainly bodes well. Whether del Toro will be able to return and direct the follow-up is unclear, however. His schedule in the near future is pretty stacked, as he starts filming the pilot to The Strain in September, then moves to directing his next feature film Crimson Peak early next year. Moreover, del Toro recently told us that his next film after Crimson Peak looks like it will be ready to go directly after he finishes up with the gothic romance pic, so it’s entirely possible that he could just be writing and producing Pacific Rim 2 and not directing. That being said, it’s still very early days.

What do you think, folks? What do you want to see from a Pacific Rim sequel?
117065, Holy shit they're making The Strain into a series?!
Posted by Nopayne, Thu Aug-01-13 10:24 AM
117066, "record breaking 9 million" uh?
Posted by Hellyeah, Thu Aug-01-13 02:31 PM

117067, TODAY, THEY CANCELED THE APOCAPLYSE!
Posted by TruOne, Mon Aug-12-13 10:37 PM
Fuckin-A movie!
117068, I'm in the minority, but I think it was average as hell
Posted by kwez, Tue Aug-13-13 06:34 PM
I might go see it again which is what I usually do when I'm this far off from the consensus.

But for now I just thought it was cheesy and by the numbers. The sequence with the little girl being hunted by the Jaiku though, was beautiful and pretty haunting. It was like an incredibly vivid nightmare.

************************
117069, you're not alone
Posted by BigWorm, Wed Sep-18-13 07:11 PM
The acting was mediocre. The only one having any fun was Ron Pearlman and that's because he was hamming it up.

The character development was flat out bad.

The robots were like Transformer rejects and most of them went down so quickly that I wanted to root for the monsters.

Only the monsters were generic too with meh designs so it wasn't even about just watching them wreck shit.

The only parts I really liked was the 'dream' sequence with the little girl running from the monster, and the one with the monster getting batted with a battleship.

And that second part was already in the trailer.

I guess I'd see a sequel, if they fixed this up with robots that don't suck and better looking monsters...oh and maybe actors that can act.
117070, no, you just can't appreciate a good movie
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Sep-20-13 03:52 AM
that's cool, personal taste is what it is.

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117071, that shit was outright terrible.
Posted by kayru99, Fri Sep-20-13 05:48 AM
117072, The audiobook was FIYAH as well
Posted by TruOne, Mon Sep-16-13 01:29 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Rim-Official-Movie-Novelization/dp/1781166781
117073, Upon revisiting this, it's better than the first time.
Posted by phenompyrus, Fri Oct-18-13 03:03 PM
Especially having watched it with people who were arguing over the science, shit was spectacularly entertaining.
117074, the blu-ray is fantastic, ofc
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Oct-18-13 04:58 PM

117075, Guillermo speaks on sequel, comic book, etc.
Posted by c71, Sat Jun-28-14 07:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HndBiSyOrK4