I'll try to tread VERY lightly for y'all cause the less you know the more rewarding this is.

I gotta say I loved this one the most out of all three. It moves. At two hours and forty five minutes, it feels like a two hour film. This had the most focused plot line out of all three and every character (except for Juno Temple's character) has something major to do. And I was genuinely scared during the fights with Bane. It like watching a pitbull rip apart a puppy. The theme of pain is there from the beginning as literally Bruce, Alfred, and Gordon(except for Lucius Fox) is suffering mentally after what happened eight years earlier. Bruce is also suffering physically from his wounds. And when Bane enters the picture EVERYONE suffers both physically and mentally.

What makes Bane awesome is the way he breaks people down. Either he'll kill your spirit and soul or he'll kill you physically. Or both. What makes this emotionally rewarding is the amazing prison sequence. This alone should get the film a BP nod as no sequence in recent memory has made a character that more deserving and rewarding when he gets to his goal. The prison is a pit that literally feels like hell and it's backstory along with the backstory of a few characters in this film ties directly back into the narrative of Batman Begins and brings this thing full circle. Also, the action sequences in this film are some of the craziest ever put on film. This shit is gonna be like The Avengers where people are gonna go back and back just to watch the climax. Or the prison sequence. And as for Anne Hathaway. She murders it. But I know you niggas are gonna shit on really fine and good performance. What makes Catwoman so interesting is that we never know her backstory. And we don't need to.

Also, that fucking chant. It's awesome. It also makes the prison sequence that much better and I love how it's all over the score, which is fan-fucking-tastic.

Avoid spoilers. The cameos in this are gonna have people going wild. And see this on the biggest and loudest IMAX you can.

I love how this wraps up the story, but still leaves enough room just in case everyone changes their mind.

man, im hype as hell.

Just got tickets for friday morning at the imax, the real imax.

We'll keep the other DKR post open for shit talk and what-have-you, so keep it all contained in there and save this post only for your reviews and talk about the film once it opens

Thnx

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Skrillex.

There’s a storm coming. You and your friends better batten down the hatches cause when it hits you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us"-Selina Kyle

..and everything in its place.

i really found myself @ a loss. not for words, but just tryin' to navigate a review that didn't involve spoilers.

hell, i'm STILL hesitant to REALLY post my thoughts on the film, 'cause i wanna dive right into the convos that will undoubtedly rise following the official opening of this film.

"..an ENTIRE THEATER chantin' for an ENCORE..."

until now, that was the only thing i could honestly say without ruinin' this for everyone else.

the acting: balanced

you got what you needed from each character (and then some), without anyone over-doin' it.

the action: w O w .

kick-arse in every category. i STILL have my reservations regarding the football field (hey, i never said the film was perfect), but i understand driving home the point of absolute carnage.

the pace: this film MOVES. constantly engagin' the audience from all aspects. anyone complainin' about the length of this film is crazy.

the dialogue: witty, sly, and at times comical.

in an age where blockbuster action films barely make an effort to maintain any semblance of a plot, this narrative dares to match the action.

the score: on point.

great sequencing. the pulse of this film is heavy, and the score underlines that brilliantly.

also, without comparing this to any other franchise: it is one of the most complete forms of entertainment you will find in modern times.

hell, i'm not much for sequels. yet, nolan found a way to create films that could very easily stand alone AND seamlessly links each storyline as a complete franchise.

if they never make another film together, this is more than enough to serve as a respectable close to a wonderful reign.


..and miles to go before i sleep...

if i do i gotta wait till like mon or tues?

he specifically filmed scenes in the IMAX format. he did the same for TDK and it was pretty damn awesome on the IMAX screen. word is he did even more scenes in this film in the large format than in TDK.

but only go if its a REAL IMAX. not that fake shit.

>if i do i gotta wait till like mon or tues?

Of course you gotta see it in IMAX. And make sure it's a real IMAX. Anything other than that and you're a sucka nigga.

did a google search and i'll be seeing it at one of the supposed real ones

but what's that mean if you dont mind explaining

just click on the IMAX logo

http://tdkrmap.com/

And they even put up a list for ya

http://www.thedarkknightrises.com/imax.html

I feel all vindicated and shit.

where i'm at.
gotta ignore the innanets

3 days, 3 days, 3 days, 3 days

It's a solid 9 out of 10.
Let's be clear, it's not the best movie ever but for me it's close to the best comic book movie ever. Or better yet, this trilogy is the best comic book movie (series) ever. I think it's highly important to see all 3 movies as 1 big film/story.

What Nolan & co. did IMO is basically create their own graphic novel. We take graphic novels such as The Dark Knight Returns as standalone stories too, this trilogy may break that mold for comic book films.

Every actor brings it. Hardy is amazing, and in case you're worried about it... he looks HUGE. It's also clear how strong Bane really is, but again without spoiling anything that's all I can say about that. Hathaway is the perfect Selina Kyle/Catwoman if you're a fan of her comic book counterpart. And Bale? Bale is truly one of the finest actors around right now, he did an amazing job.

If you kept yourself spoiler free, the ending will be unexpected and controversial. The only real complaint I have is that Selina's friend wasn't called Holly when that's basically who she was.

>
>If you kept yourself spoiler free, the ending will be
>unexpected and controversial. The only real complaint I have
>is that Selina's friend wasn't called Holly when that's
>basically who she was.

That's exactly what I was saying to myself the whole time.

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He took Alfred to another level in this shit. The emotional hurt that conveys it astonishing. This nigga had me in tears.

..its a belief

its a legacy


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Bt this was one of his worst movies (not performance, he did what he had to do with what he was given)

... It's much more cohesive and better paced than its predecessor. Christian Bale reclaimed the role after being overshadowed to the point of a non-entity the last time around. And while I can't say for sure if this is the best comic book movie ever (it's hard to say that with certainty in a world where "The Avengers" exists) Tom Hardy as Bane might be the best villain in a comic book movie ever. Not necessarily the best performance, mind you -- that still belongs to Ledger -- but the dude's sheer physicality alone is utterly frightening; the initial fight scene between him and Bale is vicious, and I really thought they might kill Bruce Wayne off right there. Plus, he sounds like Peter O'Toole speaking through Darth Vader's voice box, which turns out to be a deeply unsettling combo.

And while it's as grim and dark as the other films, this one actually felt the most fun (relatively speaking, anyway). A lot more humor in the dialogue than in the other two, and enough comic book-y elements to remind you that, yes, this is still a comic book franchise. After straining, in my estimation, to distinguish itself with bleakness and "realism," I enjoyed the injection of a few moments that let us know Nolan is still aware of what he's making.

Easily my favorite of the three films.

i was at a 3am screening earlier this morning (Thursday 19th over here). 17hrs later and it's still WITH me. like most ppl i'm glad this 3rd flick almost flawlessly rights a few of the wrongs that were present in the previous 2 flicks: less hammy dialogue b/w non-essential characters or random cops, fight scenes you can actually see and FEEL clearly blow for blow (every HIT by Bane was bone crunching), callbacks to Bruce's underlying neverending pain and managing to remind us the simple tragedy of it all, the ability to illicit tears on more than one occasion & inject some heart back within the wanton carnage, the inclusion of all the main players that have appeared throughout all 3 flicks (Scarecrow being the main constant).

SPOILERS FROM HERE ON OUT (it sez spoilers on the topic now anyways but still just in case)...



















I FUCKING CALLED THE INCLUSION OF TALIA. back in Jan 2011 when everyone was speculating who the then-unknown 2nd female lead character would be: http://confessionsofacurlymind.com/2011/01/20/anne-hathaway-as-catwomanselina-kyle-tom-hardy-as-bane-1-unknown-female-lead-in-nolans-3rd-batflick-the-dark-knight-rises. and the only reason i leaned toward Talia so heavily is cos it made perfect sense. i actually had NO idea they would even think about going with that idea until the reveal came late in the flick, but even before that, when she was still solidly Miranda Tate, just from the way she spoke and her inflection/accent, reminded me a LOT of B:TAS Talia's voice. she was mostly portrayed with that kind of voice in the 'toondom n that just rang alarm bells in my head. it wasn't any of her actions that gave away her presence to me, it was her voice and the way Cotillard played it. however a key scene to sussing her out would be the conversation she has with Bruce at the benefit (near the beginning of the film i believe when Bruce has just come back from seclusion). my only regret would be that she had to perish. in the toon series she was always a rather complex character, u never knew if she would kiss or kill Bruce at any given moment. same kinda dynamic as Selina but a LOT more unpredictable. i honestly think she should've at least made a getaway.

what to say bout Hathaway, she's gonna shut up a lot of doubters with her performance. the film never overindulged in a Catwoman fetish which was nice, she got just the right amount of screentime, and in an EPIC move, saves Batman's life from his most vicious foe to date. yes it woulda been naice to see Bats defeat Bane for good, but as someone pointed out, he was never going to end his life (even if he did give him "permission to die"). i was THOROUGHLY satisfied with the two main Bats vs Bane fist fights we got. they were BRUTAL. it was actually quite disturbing seeing such a sturdy resourceful figure being reduced to someone else's bitch like that. even Bane's mercs were horrified at how viciously he beat him down.

not sure how much this "no gun" thing was properly adhered to, considering that Bats/Bruce fires missiles and explosive projectiles all the damn time. there have had to be SOME casualties from all those explosions he directly caused. n if he's shooting from guns mounted on his flying Bat (if u thought the Tumbler would never be outdone, holy crap), doesn't that still count? but i guess the main point is that even when he shoots, he will never shoot to kill.

as per my blog poast from last year, Talia was an essential inclusion in order to bring everything full circle and focus in on one major plot point from Batman Begins: the "sacking" of Gotham City. the cameo by Liam Neeson as Ra's (i wish they coulda got the proper pronunciation cos sayin "Raaz" just never worked for me, it was always "Raysh", but whatever) was great, impactful and further solidified the ties b/w all 3 films. it served to unify everything and show just how bad it CAN get when no one is responsible for their actions and when a society galvanises itself based on a massive lie. however those just end up being personal demons, Bane & his mercs and The League Of Shadows always had a higher moral ground to stand on if u really think about it. Gotham was a cesspool, even during the so-called 'peace time'. "Gotham should be allowed to die" was the mantra in the 1st film, and it was justified by showing that the city was corruptable on every concievable level.

BANE. a lot of people are gonna be sticking to their TDK guns and will not allow themselves to even think the THOUGHT that Tom Hardy nailed this role, and presented a villain that (in some ppls eyes, possibly mine lol) topped Heath's Joker. i mean, Joker's omnipresence was one thing, but Bane was pure BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA. the dude blew Gotham half to hell and was ready to absolutely annihilate it shortly after. even with Joker's anarchist leanings, even HE wouldn't like to see the entire city nuked. Gotham is his playground, Batman's his 'other', his 'opposite'. complete and utter destruction was never on the cards for him (pun intended). but Bane is..just...one of the toughest sunuvabitches ever (with awesome taste in coats). i was never up on his comic origins so i always followed the toon versions, and Venom was always present. i thought that went hand-in-hand with his character, but the Bane i got in TDKR was so much MORE. i mean even in the toon he was a cool calculating kinda dude, but the film gave me a reason to actually care about him and how tough HIS life was, even if it was momentary (his tears & the look in his eyes when Talia is revealed and knifes Bruce, & we briefly see his backstory (and the one and only time Tom Hardy's face is actually seen). actually thats worth some props right there, fact that Hardy was able to convey everything Bane was about and not need more than his fists and his eyeballs to do so. SO, fanboys will cry and be upset at folks even SUGGESTING this but...Bane could might be the greatest villain portrayed in the Nolan Batverse. that's on his character alone. i spose the REAL debate is guna come down to Heath vs Hardy. THATS too fucking tough to call.

Michael Caine. everyone's saying Oscor noms but i might not go that far with it. he was an integral piece and brought some much needed emotional weight to things, but he was dangerously close to repeating that somewhat iffy "bandit in Burma" story from TDK, which always felt a little...i dunno, shoved in there. didn't feel essential, and a was a bit awkward. of course in TDK it was there to make a very quick clear comparison to what the Joker was all about at his core. but luckily here the scenario of the cafe and his whimsy worked for me. and it drove home the point that Alfred is as close to a father that Bruce has and will EVER have, and he emotes like one. perhaps it's that love that won Bruce over in the end, rigging the autopilot and escaping his life. BOTH of them.

i know once the reviews die down the knives will come out, as they always do, and the film will be more thoroughly scrutinised and picked apart. however as the 3rd in a trilogy, it ranks as one of the better conclusions to a film series in recent memory. and one of THE greatest Batflicks ever put to screen. the sheer scale of everything was jaw-dropping to say the least (spesh on the 3rd largest screen in the world, which is what the Melbourne IMAX boasts). again i say, this film DESERVES to be seen and heard in the IMAX format. all too often for as long as i can remember, the regular theatre experience has been lacking something. and that's VOLUME. regular theatres stopped jacking the sound up sometime in the late 90s. i used to remember going to movies and being just INUNDATED with sound. the speakers are there so might as well USE them. but these days, not so much. i feel like it's always at half the volume it should be. with IMAX tho, no such qualms. i was audiovisially ASSAULTED and it felt fucking awesome lol.

and just to get this shit outta the way cos it's guna be inevitable (even if it is pointless), but right now TDKR >>> Avengers. and if y'all know how much of a Joss nutjob i am, then u know to take me seriously.

going back again on Sunday n seeing it at a regular spot as part of my friends bday celebrations (TDKR then beers). and i honestly can't wait.

V.

NM

this is usually where we get to freely discuss spoilers.
so i aint sorry.
the other 200+ post is the non spoiler one.

V.

That shits too good to ruin

Man....This shit edges Avengers in so many ways.
Christian Bale actually pulled me in this time.
Alfred got me tearing up in the movie twice, emotional shit.
Anne Hathaway did Catwoman the most justice ever.
Yeah the pain element was off the charts.
The academy needs to take this movie seriously,
for the direction alone.












Robin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or Bane should get a nomination for best silent
actor

Only a matter of time before someone edits out his
voice...would make the movie much better

The 8 words I did understand certainly didn't
add shit

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going tonight so you can say what you want

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talked though and what happened to him?

>talked though and what happened to him?


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it was really cool seeing all three films back to back, especially since I didn't see the first two on the big screen. I did see them on a Liemax since its close to my house and the only real IMAX here in Georgia is an hour away from me, plus they weren't showing the trilogy in IMAX there. The Liemax was cool, bigger picture than a regular screen but not supersized like the real IMAX, but the sound was GREAT.

Great flick all around, even had my wife tearing up a lil at the end. I love that woman for sitting through all three flicks with me, I know I'm gonna have to do something similar for Twilight in November.....




<---- Downtown Kansas City, Missouri 5/24/2011

Batman. Let me say that first.

*spoilers*

I think it's ridiculous that Bruce Wayne has been in hiding for 8 years and no one has seen Batman in 8 years but no one could put two and two together. Like honestly?

Hathaway...loved her as "cat woman".

Hardy...oh he NAILED Bane. I won't go as far to say he was better than Heath (only because Heath had a defining moment in TDK that stayed with me, and he nailed the whole role), but he was great. I think he deserves a nod but we know he won't get it.

Blake...let's just get this out the way. I knew from the jump he was Robin. As soon as he went looking for batman and told his story, I said loud as fuck in the theater "is that dude Robin?" and so at the end, when we found out he was, everyone clapped. Loved that.

Girl who played Miranda was forgettable. I hated how she died. However, I loved the flash back when we find out she's Ra's child and not Bane. i didn't pay attention to the eye color, but as an after thought I realized, that the kid and Bane didn't have the same color eyes. dead giveaway

Nice to see Cullen

Caine...he does what he does. Loved how he told the story about his "fantasy" for Wayne and at the end, when it comes true...I almost cried. I said 'Alfred going to the bathroom to cry now'. LOL. It was perfect and in my mind I wondered if he still went to Venice and that restaurant because he was still holding on to that wish even though Wayne was suppose to be dead.

And that takes me back to my first statement. Wayne is dead. Batman is dead. People won't connect these still?

*this is the most I've written for a movie in this section. I loved it.

And I thought it could easily be rationalized that Bruce took Dent's death particularly hard or maybe it's not a stretch when its a guy that was thought deadfor seven years. Plus Blake figured it out. And yeah he's was easy to spot too after his orphan story.

Batman supposedly was, but Bruce stayed around a bit longer. He was around for Miranda's investment and went into hiding once he ran his company into the ground.

And Batman still lives, that's why Blake is lead to the cave and there's a new signal on MCU's roof.

at the same time, I understand that me not being a fan of the comics would somewhat contribute to that. I think if you *know* the comics and background, it's easier to understand what's going on.

To me it was like Harvey Dent died, Batman disappeared and somehow Bruce Wayne was cripple in an "accident" that no one knows about and has been hiding for 8 years.

so to me, it was like oh it's been 8 years since Dent's death and 8 years since Wayne went into seclusion.

My understanding was he went into seclusion following dent's death and that during that time, he messed up his investments by not being there mentally or physically to handle the issues. It was stated that they believed he was injured in some accident and that's partially why he hid, so to me people stopped seeing Bruce Wayne around the same time as Batman.

To that I add, batman and Bruce Wayne both reemerge at the same time. I don't get how no one, except Blake and Bane, would make a connection.

you don't have to know anything about the comic to get the story that nolan presented. the poster above already said it, but bruce was around for a while after batman disappeared. so the timelines were different which is why perhaps the people of gotham didn't put 2 + 2 together on the identities. the other point you seem to have missed is that during the time that bruce was around he invested the majority of the money in wayne enterprises into that fusion energy. the reason why that "gamble" didn't pay off and was seen as a bad investment was because they claimed it didn't work and hid the reactor since, as bruce and fox stated in the movie, it could be used to be turned into a bomb. it was only after this supposed flop of an investment that wayne seemed to turn into a recluse. at least, that's the way i understood it watching the movie. i pretty much thought the plot was pretty straight forward.

>My understanding was he went into seclusion following dent's
>death and that during that time, he messed up his investments
>by not being there mentally or physically to handle the
>issues. It was stated that they believed he was injured in
>some accident and that's partially why he hid, so to me people
>stopped seeing Bruce Wayne around the same time as Batman.
>
>To that I add, batman and Bruce Wayne both reemerge at the
>same time. I don't get how no one, except Blake and Bane,
>would make a connection.

and I admitted that in my OP to him, that I perhaps missed something at the beginning (which I will attribute to the fact i was tired, at the midnight show).

However, the time lines weren't clearly defined in the movie to me at all. Wayne didn't have to be present and around to fuck up a lot of money in an investment. OTHER ppl I know who saw the movie had the same confusion about this as I did, how they would both disappear at relatively the same time and then reappear at the same time but no one would be suspicious.

I thought, perhaps, it was because I didn't have knowledge of the comic, and the only ppl who have answered the question to me ON HERE and IN REAL LIFE, have been people familiar with the comics...so to me it would be clearer to THOSE people than the average person with limited to no real background knowledge on the movies.

I just supplied my understand to say 'this is why I was confused.' not for your stank ass comment.

But go head and cook yo.

Like others have said, Bruce was around after Batman went into hiding, and then he fell back when it was clear Batman wasn't needed, his company was going into financial ruin and his depression became too gripping. that timespan could have easily been a couple years before he told Miranda the reactor wasn't feasible.

Then you have to factor in what the movie actually showed us. Batman had to heal his leg, which would take time even with that device on it. Then the reactor was activated and Bane said it would take nearly 6 months to combust, a timer that ticked all the way down to the very end. The seasons clearly move from spring/summer to mid-winter during the course of the movie.

Basically, I'd be questioning how a dude healed a broken back in less than 5 months and climbed out of an unclimbable hole long before I got to questioning how the people didn't discover Bruce was Bats, LOL.


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I just stated what was presented by the film. Plain and simple. You said you missed things, well that's what you missed. Why take offense? I don't follow the comics, what I typed was what I got from watching it.

as for the citizens of Gotham, i guess u stop caring who the crazy guy in the bat costume is after a certain amount of time. unless ur a keen detective in the making who was also orphaned as a child and can intuitively pick up on another persons similar kind of pain (as Blake mentioned, via the eyes). i think even despite the similarities of timing b/w Bruce and Bats taking extended vacays from the spotlight, no one is ever guna be thinking that this womanising billionaire who doesnt know how to run his own company properly can get his shit so together that he could be the Batman. i think thats why the cover of Bruce Wayne works so well for him, when he plays him like a male bimbo, it just helps keep ppl doubting such an assertion could be true.

V.

My review-- to get me paid, Cere :)-- here (suggestions of spoilers, but nothing specific): http://exm.nr/PiHpXL

The good:
- storytelling best of the trilogy. tight, tight, tight.
- huge ambition. I admired it.
- Bane is a fiercely worthy adversary
- the Joseph Gordon-Levitt plotline. Perfectly handled, even if I saw the ending of it coming.
- it's unmistakably a film where Bruce/Batman is the most interesting character. Most sequels get overly cluttered and don't pull that off. Loved that here.
- I coulda sworn Catwoman would bother me, and while a couple of her one-liner moments are cringeworthy, she basically pulled it off. I liked what she represented (that scene with Bruce-- "you're one of us now"-- really nice).

The ehh:
- the things that are enormously silly in the film (which I hint at in my review) which never bother me in comic book flicks with a lighter tone always stick out like sore thumbs in this trilogy for me. cliches are fun in some flicks... but since Nolan's clearly tried to create a grittier reality here, it always disconnects me for some reason
- the exposition/speechifying Nolan has his characters do... and repeat... and repeat. But I'm immune to it to some degree now, and it was less annoying here for me than in TDK
- it seems to me that Marion Cotillard could have taken a far more straight forward path to achieve her objective, lol
- I could nitpick other stuff-- I still think Nolan doesn't shoot action as well as others, and in a movie with not much CGI, some of the switches to CGI stood out-- but it's mostly those three points

I'm just bitter at this point that I'm not in love with it like you guys are. I badly want to be in the club, it just doesn't do it for me on that level. I guess I just kind of have to accept that it's not the kind of thing that REALLY floats my boat like it is for others. :-\

Still, I have crazy appreciation for what Nolan did to close it out, and in my mind, it's absolutely the best of the three, flaws and all.

Ledger had the charm, the one-liners, sliding down the money, sticking his car out the window, etc. Easy to see the appeal over this one...

... but it's clear why everyone's fucking terrified of Bane. His body is so massive. His tactics are ruthless. And he's every bit as smart and strong as Batman. In short, he might just be the better villain, period.

One of the best payoffs in the film is when he finally shows weakness at the end-- "How did you...?" The build with the character was perfect.

Really, Bale, Hardy, and JGL carried this film for me. Those three performances and arcs were top-notch.

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The Talia twist was remeniscient of the Gordon twist in TDK, kinda easy to spot but still a dope moment. I pretty much liked everything about it more or less. The Robin thing I was a little unsure about but in a way it's pretty cool...gotta take ass to bed tho, talk more about this shit later

I thought it was equal to Batman Begins but not quite up to the level of The Dark Knight.

TDK is my favorite movie of all time tho, so being not quite is good as that isn't a bad thing. It was a fitting conclusion to what I personally think is the greatest cinimetic trilogy ever (can't think of anything that even competes save for Godfather).

That's my initial four am just got back to the city from the burbs gut reaction. I may end up seeing it again and giving it more thought.

Star Wars might be my runner up.

Godfather III fell off SO hard - didnt' do justice to the first two.

LOTR is 3rd

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Because Godfather 3 was one of the worst movies ever made. People will laugh but I think the Back to the Future Trilogy deserves some shine in the best ever discussion.

Don't forget, Godfather 3 was met with much praise, including a Best Picture nomination when it first came out.

LOL

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I'll also need some permission to use that quote
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Ledger's Joker elevated the second movie but I can't see people rewatching the first or third movies in 20 years. I think those films will be ultimately as disposable as the first two Burton Batman flicks.

how did Robin know Bruce was Batman? At first I thought Gordon told him, but he didn't find out Bruce was bats until the end

and was one of the main motivations that got Bruce out of seclusion? unless im remembering the beginning parts wrong...

V.

From the moment JGL met Bruce, he knew he was Batman. I'm pretty sure he gave an explanation, but I can't remember what it was. I thought Gordon had told him at first, but Gordon didn't know until the end. I just couldn't remember how they explained JGL knowing without being told

and while he doesn't explain that he could also tell Batman would have to be extraordinarily reach to have all his gadgets, he says that the look on Bruce's face when he visited the orphanage was enough to let him know Bruce was the Batman.

Which all goes to say that JGL was playing a guy that couldn't be much older than, like, 22, although I don't think we know how much time passed between Begins and Dark Knight so maybe he's older.

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When Blake was introduced I immediately was trying to hear his full name. Trying to figure out if they said "Blake" or "Drake" as in Timothy Drake. My boy then suggested he would be Robin and based on the name situation I agreed.

As a nerd, I was kinda skeptical about the notion that Bane was Ras Al Ghul's kid. "Ras has a daughter not a son!" was my thinking. So I wondered if Miranda would be revealed as Bane's sister. But I liked how they cleared that one up. She did have a terrible death sequence though.

Didn't like Bane's voice. Wasn't scary enough and I couldn't understand him sometimes.

What happened to Bruce's limp?

Shouldn't Gotham and Bruce all be suffering from extreme radiation poisoning at this point?

When did he have time to make that line of gasoline, and the gasoline bat on the bridge?

Those things aside, I really did like the movie a lot. Not as much as TDK, but that's not a slight.

>Didn't like Bane's voice. Wasn't scary enough and I couldn't
>understand him sometimes.

I liked his voice but it still was hard to understand at times.

>What happened to Bruce's limp?

He had that thing on his leg that let him walk. Remember that part where he kicked the wall off?

>Shouldn't Gotham and Bruce all be suffering from extreme
>radiation poisoning at this point?

Yeah, that seemed like a wtf moment, but then again I don’t know enough about radiation sickness to really comment other than to say it SEEMS like that shit would have been too close.

>Those things aside, I really did like the movie a lot. Not as
>much as TDK, but that's not a slight.

Word.

>>What happened to Bruce's limp?
>
>He had that thing on his leg that let him walk. Remember that
>part where he kicked the wall off?


Yeah, but when the threw him in the prison, the took his clothes but left his knee brace? That's some shoddy villainry right there.

there were a couple of other oversights too
but all in all it was decent

>When Blake was introduced I immediately was trying to hear
>his full name. Trying to figure out if they said "Blake" or
>"Drake" as in Timothy Drake. My boy then suggested he would be
>Robin and based on the name situation I agreed.

It had nothing to do with that.

>As a nerd, I was kinda skeptical about the notion that Bane
>was Ras Al Ghul's kid. "Ras has a daughter not a son!" was my
>thinking. So I wondered if Miranda would be revealed as Bane's
>sister. But I liked how they cleared that one up. She did have
>a terrible death sequence though.

Her entire character was awful.


>Didn't like Bane's voice. Wasn't scary enough and I couldn't
>understand him sometimes.

Its not that you didn't like it, its that the movie
was so poorly made that the director didn't bother
making the main villain's voice audible. Speaks to
how-made the film was (not).


>What happened to Bruce's limp?
>
>Shouldn't Gotham and Bruce all be suffering from extreme
>radiation poisoning at this point?

Yes. But the bullshit is faaar upstream of that. That
entire story arc was asinine.

>When did he have time to make that line of gasoline, and the
>gasoline bat on the bridge?

Who cares, it was dumb

>Those things aside, I really did like the movie a lot. Not as
>much as TDK, but that's not a slight.


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way he makes movies.

Not perfect, but goddamnit, it was damn close

And there had better not be any complaints about the run time this time around. That 2:45 FLEW by. And no, you can't cut anything out of the first hour.

Murders were committed this time around by Bale, Caine, Hathaway (she ugly!), Hardy, Jo-Go, and Marion. Good lord, do I love her.

Possibly more later, but yeah, cmon.

No, really, cmon.

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1) Introduce Catwoman

2) Bane breaks Bat

3) Batman heals

4) Batman fights Bane again

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>way he makes movies.
>
>Not perfect, but goddamnit, it was damn close

LOL

>And there had better not be any complaints about the run time
>this time around. That 2:45 FLEW by. And no, you can't cut
>anything out of the first hour.

LOL

>Murders were committed this time around by Bale, Caine,
>Hathaway (she ugly!), Hardy, Jo-Go, and Marion. Good lord, do
>I love her.

LOL

>Possibly more later, but yeah, cmon.

>No, really, cmon.

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Not a criticism, because I thought it was a good way to end the trilogy.

I'm just bothered because, well.... it REALLY made me want to see what happens next, mostly with Blake. I held out hope that I'd see him really get in the fight as you-know-who, or even take on Azrael's role from Knightfall. I knew it was highly, highly unlikely, but wanted it still. That said, the audience- myself included- erupted at the reveal I'm sure most of us either saw coming, or at the very least, hoped would be the case. Absolutely satisfied with that. I just want more, specifically of Blake as Robin/Nightwing, as seen through Nolan's eyes. Knowing that's not coming is sort of a letdown.

In that regard, I would've preferred more finality. Again, that's not a criticism, because leaving me wanting more is a good thing, obviously... but it's somewhat maddening that Blake got the Batcave and I don't get to see what comes of that inheritance.

More later on the movie itself, but the bottom line for me was rather simple: every character delivered and the movie moved along at an excellent pace. Loved it. I have critiques, but they're mostly nitpicking (eh... I'd think that nuke would've fucked up a LOT of shit, even in the water like that, though it's better than destroying the city like it would have...) brought that contaminated water to land, and tor elements that simply made me want more (I wanted more Catwoman) or flew in the face of a personal preference that has no bearing on my enjoyment of the movie itself (I hate that Wayne lost everything, I really do, though it served the story well...).

Had a blast, loved it, and I'll see it again tomorrow night.

yikes :/

http://www.rt.com/news/shooting-dark-knight-rises-batman-denver-aurora-654.

Published: 20 July, 2012, 12:21

At least 14 moviegoers were killed and 50 injured at a cinema in the Colorado city of Aurora in the Denver suburbs. They were attending a midnight showing of the new Batman film, The Dark Knight Rises.

The theater was packed with a lot of people, many of them young fans, at the time the shooting started, 9news reports. The violence erupted some 15 minutes after the movie began, witnesses said.

Ten of the victims were killed on the spot, while four others died from injuries in hospital. Unconfirmed reports say there are children among the dead.

An area children’s hospital said the youngest of the six shooting victims brought to them is six years old. Not all of the patients at the hospital are children, however.

The Century 16 Theater has numerous individual viewing halls. Witnesses in theatres adjustment to theater 9 – the scene of the massacre – said they saw bullets coming through the walls and could hear injured people moaning.

Police say that the assailant initially opened a chemical gas canister. Witnesses recounted hearing a hissing sound and smoke, and then the shooting started.

Some say that when they first heard the gunfire, they thought it was some new type of special effect.

“It was chaotic, it was surreal, it was like in a movie,” one of the witnesses told 9news Denver TV station.

Initial media reports suggested that two gunmen were involved in the rampage. But police later said there was only one person involved as far as they know. The gunman was armed with a rifle and a handgun at the time of his arrest, Police Chief Dan Oates said at a media conference. He was arrested next to his car, police said.

Witnesses reported seeing a tall, gun-wielding man clad in body armor and wearing a gas mask in the theatre. The assailant attempted to block the exits to trap the moviegoers inside. Some witnesses said the gunman managed to empty at least two clips.

An apartment building where the assailant lives was evacuated after the suspect told police there were explosives planted there following his apprehension. So far police have failed to find any traces of the alleged bombs.

Police responding to the shooting evacuated the area over fears that an explosive device might be on the premises.

At least 50 people have been taken to area hospitals following the shooting, although it is not yet clear how many of them are in serious condition. At least one patient was reported to be in critical condition.

Several victims are being treated for chemical exposure rather than gunshot wounds, medical staff say.

Many moviegoers had dressed up to attend the premiere of the latest Batman film. The gunman, who would have stood out in other circumstances, may have managed not to attract attention before he launched his attack.

The FBI is considering raising the national security level nationwide following the shooting, Sky News says citing its sources.
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Major SPOILERS below...

My gripes are so fucking minor but:

- I was annoyed Batman got stabbed in the pancreas and it didnt' affect him at ALL.
- I thought the re-emergence of Wayne rising from the pit could have been done a bit better. He didn't really *change* after going through the purification of the soul / rebirth that the prison was meant to represent.
- I was slightly annoyed that no one put 2 & 2 - fuck it 1 & 1 - together and realized the only person who could POSSIBLY be Batman was Bruce Wayne. Robin figured it out as a kid...
- The Bat Bike fucking sucks. I hate that thing and it got way too much screen time.
- Kinda ho-hum fist fights.
- Bane's death was anti-climatic and kinda cheap.
- Catwoman mostly annoyed me.
- The incredible coordination and collusion necessary to infiltrate the top levels of Wayne Enterprises, defraud the stock market for billions, and time Gotham's isolation to the second could not have been performed by the same group that drove the bomb around in a lightly guarded unlocked truck for like two months.
- It wasn't really explained how Bane got his crew of true believers together.

The raves are far too numerous to mention...

- Some of the best pursuit scenes I can remember. The bat bike annoys me but the editing and pace of the scenes are some of the best in recent memory.
- The Bat is probably my favorite piece of bat transit ever and every scene it was in was amazing.
- All of the acting was pretty great.
- Fantastic writing in the prison scenes.
- Everything Bane said.

> - It wasn't really explained how Bane got his crew of true
>believers together.

>The incredible coordination and collusion necessary to infiltrate the >top levels of Wayne Enterprises, defraud the stock market for >billions, and time Gotham's isolation to the second could not have >been performed by the same group that drove the bomb around in a >lightly guarded unlocked truck for like two months.

We might have to revive this thread:
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=608928&mesg_id=608928&listing_type=search

> - The Bat Bike fucking sucks. I hate that thing and it got
>way too much screen time.

I thought the CGI on the Bat Bike's turns was a little conspicuous as well... for a movie that prided itself on so little CGI, the CGI that did appear was pretty apparent for me, personally


> - The incredible coordination and collusion necessary to
>infiltrate the top levels of Wayne Enterprises, defraud the
>stock market for billions, and time Gotham's isolation to the
>second could not have been performed by the same group that
>drove the bomb around in a lightly guarded unlocked truck for
>like two months.

LMAO

league into the Dark Knight trilogy? Does DC have to do a Justice League movie Marvel style or do you think they can throw all the heroes together?

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Riddle Me This: Where exactly was Talia going?

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I'm satisfied now that I know Bruce Wayne can finally enjoy life. Man he's been through some shit in these movies. They remind me of a great novel that you can't put down but after reading that last page, you breathe a sigh of relief. Thank you Chris Nolan for this wonderful experience.


I know people have been comparing TDKR to the Avengers so I'll throw my 2 cents in. I still like the Avengers just a tad bit more. Watching the Avengers had me flashing back to the best years of my childhood and how I would spend hours playing with my action figures. I left the theater with a big ass smile on my face. It gave me that nostalgic feeling.

Why introduce Robin if this is the end of the trilogy?
Because obviously we are now wanting to see a Batman and Robin movie.

at this point if you don't the fanboys get all cranky.

I thought it was a nice little twist to see the circumstances that could create Robin's legend.

The movie managed to replace my standing image of of Robin (gay boytoy) to a savvy but disillusioned gifted detective with an existential commitment to justice.

I'm sure the powers that be could get together and make a Robin movie happen. I doubt they have one planned tho

now I got blue balls! LOL.

QUESTION THO:

How the hell did Batman get back to Gotham after he broke out the damn prison? I was confused as hell like "Batman isn't magical. how does this work?"

I mean he's batman.

>I mean he's batman.
Yep, he always has some type of gadget when it's convenient.

Fuck Batman, they need the bomb squad!

>QUESTION THO:
>
>How the hell did Batman get back to Gotham after he broke out
>the damn prison? I was confused as hell like "Batman isn't
>magical. how does this work?"

Like the others, I gave it a pass-- it wasn't really on my list of actual gripes, but I did think: "This dude has no money, no friends, and no car... not even SHOES where he's located-- and isn't he in a different country? This prison isn't local, right? But... but he just... strolls up into a city... which if I'm not mistaken... is surrounded at every entrance by cops?"

Again, like Triptych said, he's Batman, so I kinda just quickly rolled my eyes and got past it, but yeah, it's a convenient shortcut. You're not crazy for wondering, lol.

gadgets aside, he is smart as hell and has been trained to be a ninja. pretty sure he could make his way to an airport somewhere and sneak aboard a few planes. they don't give the exact time frame so his journey back could have been pretty tough, but there's no reason to show all of that. we already know he's batman and is capable of incredible things, getting back into gotham ain't no thing.

>
>>QUESTION THO:
>>
>>How the hell did Batman get back to Gotham after he broke
>out
>>the damn prison? I was confused as hell like "Batman isn't
>>magical. how does this work?"
>
>Like the others, I gave it a pass-- it wasn't really on my
>list of actual gripes, but I did think: "This dude has no
>money, no friends, and no car... not even SHOES where he's
>located-- and isn't he in a different country? This prison
>isn't local, right? But... but he just... strolls up into a
>city... which if I'm not mistaken... is surrounded at every
>entrance by cops?"
>
>Again, like Triptych said, he's Batman, so I kinda just
>quickly rolled my eyes and got past it, but yeah, it's a
>convenient shortcut. You're not crazy for wondering, lol.

If I were going to question anything about the timeline at all, it's Wayne recovering his back in less than five months. He might be the Batman, but he's still a man. Backs don't grow back just like that, with a simple punch to the stomach.


I guess we just have to chalk it up to the crazy science of that prison. They did construct a ridiculous mask that can't be removed from a man's face in the middle of a tomb, after all.


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Without that, Batman's fucked. He doesn't outthink anyone (in fact, he gets tricked at every turn). He doesn't do anything clever. He just has a fucking spaceship that gives him superiority over everyone else.

Remember Gotham was on lockdown for months. By the time Batman got back there was less than a day before the bomb went off.

My general understanding, as well.

go off until 20 some days, unless manually triggered.

I think by the time Bruce got back to Gotham, there were only 8 days left or something.

So it's not like he got back there overnight.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I understood it.

After that long talk he gives Blake about "anyone could be Batman, it's the mask not the man," etc., I coulda SWORN he'd be the new Batman during Bruce's absence. It'd imply a world in which Batman can continue to exist even as Bruce finds peace. Totally underlines the point about the Batman mythology.

Instead, the tease tried to be cute about something fans know. I thought they had a dynamite ending about the mythology of heroes and how they live on... and made it too cutesy. At least for my personal tastes.

The whole speech about its the mask kind of distracted me from my original thought of Blake being Robin. I do want to see how that plays out...however, it's a trilogy so I guess it doesn't matter

>The whole speech about its the mask kind of distracted me
>from my original thought of Blake being Robin. I do want to
>see how that plays out...however, it's a trilogy so I guess it
>doesn't matter

I knew from the beginning that Blake would become Robin. Nolan said this is his last Batman film, however, he never said it was his last comic book to film adaption. I'm interested to see how a crippled Bruce Wayne deals with Robin and his hotheadedness. But knowing Batman, he probably has a cure for that shit...lol.

It would have ruined the movie.

You can't just put on a cape and cowl and be Batman. It took Bruce 7 years before he felt he was ready. Blake becoming Batman without any training would have been a gigantic stretch and just would have come off as cheap and corny. Nolan's better than that.

And Batman doesn't die. Even if it had been an Azrael type of thing, I don't think it would have worked or made sense.

And Bruce will never stop being Batman. Taking such a long break from being Batman did strike me as a little odd, but I just don't see him passing down the mantle to anyone else that soon, when he's still capable, and I still don't think he necessarily did in the end. he talked about it with Harvey, but he did have Rachel in mind. He was always searching for it, but TDKR shows he is never able to move on. And I can't see Bruce hanging with Selena and taking Robin under his wing without putting the mask back on. Bruce finding peace was never part of any Batman mythology.

which, since it's not a comic, I suppose I'd understand. But that show was cool to me.





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i thought they nailed it so well with that entire series. and as a result, Return Of The Joker is one of the greatest Batfilms ever made. would kill to see that on the big screen. or if they ever consider possibly continuing the Nolan Batverse (minus Nolan himself), you get JGL years in the future as Bats (but not too old), with the MUCH older Bruce (hopefully still played by Bale but with heavy convincing makeup (aka not ANYTHING like Guy Pearce in Prometheus)) acting as his bitter guide. it'll be a further reality check for whats in store for those who don the cape & cowl: eventually everyone either dies or leaves u and ur left all alone to be a cranky old man for the rest of ur days. that alone allows for the delving into his era as well as the new. would be great stuff.

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my showing is at 6:30am at the IMAX
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g8evyE9TuYk

This fucking trailer reveals everything lol...

I hate trailers and pretty much avoided all of them and made the movie much more rewarding.

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g8evyE9TuYk
>
>This fucking trailer reveals everything lol...

I prefer to know little to nothing about movies I look forward to

With all the speculation leading up to the movie and people assuming that marion and joseph were talia and robin, nolan shut people down by announcing them a two somewhat ordinary citizens. Then he goes and flips it on you at the end. Dope.

Also, I actually thought they were gonna have him die.

Fuck, what a good movie.

i was just like...jesus christ. it was disturbing how much he got beat down.

V.

the sounds, the way Batman was just strugglin and you knew Bane was bout to do the thing he is famous for, shit was sad and bad ass at the same time.

that had to be some of the best fighting ever in a movie.

in 'Troy'

Both fight scenes took place in dogshit movies,
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>
>in 'Troy'
>
>Both fight scenes took place in dogshit movies,
>but Achilles/Hektor was much more exciting

that shit was a foregone conclusion, after hector done killed achilles brother? it was a WRAP. even though it was well established greek mythology, they could have at least made it LOOK like hector had a chance instead of shook ones part I and II.

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It was supposed to be serious and somber

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really, really cheesy. big ups to Maurkice Pouncey for making the cut, though.

I loved how Bruce smashed Talia, how they made that connection between the characters. I liked how they also established a romance with Selina, and even though it was kind of quick, it still didn't feel rushed or underdeveloped.

I like how the Talia twisted was pulled off, it was one of the most exciting parts of the movie along with Bane breaking Batman's back. Making Bane the son of Ra's would have been AWFUL, and not made a lot of sense. Same as the killing of Gordon in TDK. Same kind of twist, and both were fun as hell. I remember thinking at the time, when they were showing young Talia climbing out of the pit, that her protector looked awfully fucking big, and a lot like Bane. I like how they used Bane in that role, with that backstory, they definitely did his character justice.

Now that I think about it, I'm really not mad at the inclusion of Robin. Soon as I heard that orphan story, I suspected it. As I think about it now, it makes perfect sense the way they did it, if they had tried to make it closer to the truth, with a circus and Bruce adopting him and such, it would have felt WAAAAY off. It works with Robin being a grown-ass man, everything about it worked perfectly. I was expecting the name Richard Grayson instead of Robin, but like my boy said a lot of fans don't know that name.

I was really hoping Ra's was still alive, too. But just like venom, Lazarus Pits would have been too much to explain and too much of a stretch in this type of universe.

The thing I love most about this trilogy was how all of the characters, despite the changes, were done right. Their depictions in the films stayed true to the characters in the comics. Nolan never took any unnecessary liberties with any characters and it worked beautifully. I still can't understand why so many other films love to do that, and suffer for it. Why make changes to characters that have such long, rich backstories just for the hell of it? Nolan laid out a blueprint and no one can seem to follow it. X-Men First Class IMO was a step in that direction, which is why it was so good. Hopefully the new Wolverine will be as well. Zack Snyder nailed it with Watchmen. I guess it does happen, but not often enough, and never before like this particular franchise.

I hope Warner doesn't fumble this franchise going forward. It's not going to be an easy task by any means. I'm very hopeful (but doubtful) that they take it in a particular direction, that I think would be ill as shit, that I'm not going to say just now. I don't know if this topic could warrant it's own post right now (could it?) but there's definitely a lot to be said about the future of this franchise.

*edit: I definitely can say now, no doubt in my mind, GOAT movie franchise

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it's essentially a trivial plot point, but i'm mulling over it regardless.

who were guarding Pavel for hire so he could complete his research uninhibited.

when really it was Bain who was holding him hostage to complete his research, and he gave Pavel to the CIA as a way to throw them off his (Pavel's) scent when the plane disappeared.

By the way, Carcetti was pretty great as the CIA Agent, and I really wanted to see Bunny get a little more screen time. He really sold that "wait...the fuck did you just say?" look though.

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>By the way, Carcetti was pretty great as the CIA Agent


LOL...anybody could have pulled that off, he literally
didn't have to do shit

It was a shit role

I mean, the Mexican essay gang cat from 'Training Day' was up
in there too

His role was about as relevant as Carcetti's

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it wasn't my favorite performance of the movie or anything, I just really enjoyed seeing him play something other than a whiny politician.


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He was one of Bane's henchman

Son was acting mad hard, you know he
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Shit, his character was named Vatos in The Walking Dead.

>Shit, his character was named Vatos in The Walking Dead.

Woow

Didn't know that

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He was the SWAT team guy who said he kept his money in the mattress...

I knew I recognized him from somewhere, but couldn't place him.

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The Joker if Heath had lived

>The Joker if Heath had lived
Heath dying changed the entire direction of this. No way such a character could have been relegated to such a minor role.

-the scene where they trapped the cops underground
-the judge/jury/executioner scene

The Joker is famous for holding down roles like this in stories that don't feature him prominently, getcha mind right nigga (c) Elzhi

in which Bats is captured inside Akrham and is put to trial, all the witnesses being majority of the rogues gallery with Two-Face as opposing council and Joker as the judge. of course the outcome is rigged.
the whole scene with Dr. Crane in TDKR felt like a nod to that. and Joker's sposed to be locked up, and u cant just make two back to back Bats vs Joker flicks. i think they woulda gone a similar direction (that is, spotlighting a new villain) then just go with Joker as the main baddy again. which means, had Heath lived, Joker woulda probly made a small cameo like Scarecrow did. or at least a few sly one liners. and that woulda been all that was necessary.

V.

>The Joker if Heath had lived


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the Killer Croc mention. what about it?

V.

it was at the beginning. Blake asked if someone had seen a large crocodile in the sewers.

cannot believe it slam dunked dark knight as a movie; so much darker. i wasn't expecting it to be *this* good. amazing, actually.

i'm obsessed with heath ledger as joker, and he carried the entire movie to me. but this movie as a whole was just incredible. bane was the most physically frightening movie character i can think of. i felt myself backing into my theater seat whenever he seemed to move closer to the camera!

the action was some of the best i've ever seen. real hands on, whatever special effects they used blended perfectly. i was so scared when they were fighting in the sewer. i loved seeing catwoman look like she regretted it.

my only gripes are:
-that stupid chief cop, the blonde one... why? because gordon needed push back?
-miranda was dry and i knew she was shady but didn't pick up that she was talia.
-i wish bane's actual death sequence would have been a little more graphic, someone above or in the GD thread mentioned it being "cheap", i agree. i really wanted batman to rip bane's mask off. when batman was trying to get bane to tell him where the trigger was, i totally thought it was his mask.

>-that stupid chief cop, the blonde one... why? because gordon
>needed push back?


Modine's character might've been a little sloppy and cliche, I'd agree with that, but in the Batman universe there have been plenty of cops that want to capture the Bat and get obsessed with it over catching the villains. This movie needed someone to represent that.


>-i wish bane's actual death sequence would have been a little
>more graphic, someone above or in the GD thread mentioned it
>being "cheap", i agree. i really wanted batman to rip bane's
>mask off. when batman was trying to get bane to tell him
>where the trigger was, i totally thought it was his mask.


That death (assuming he died; I wouldn't count on it, truthfully) stunk. Like Frank's been saying, I love these movies but that was one of the more "oh yeah Batman can't die in his own movie" moments.


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Banes death was lame, but I guess they had to find some way to keep Batman from killing, but that dude stomped through that whole movie then gets taken out in a cumshot with a one liner lol

still a great movie though. and the joker would have been perfect in the courtroom scene, or possibly being in on the stock exchange robbery but then just flaking out, doing some crazy shit, and having his own cool little escape scene aside from the motorcycle chase. whatever.

He's been mad about this movie since it was announced.

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havent been this amped to see a movie twice in such close proximity at the theatres before since...Space Jam lol.

V.

Although Heath Ledger probably gave the better performance, I found Bane to be more menacing and a complete head to toe full on rival for Batman. While The Joker was devilishly brilliant, Bane's character and actions were just on another level. Another thing I loved about this movie was the overall pace of the film, nothing dragged on ( I sat and watched it 3x in a row today and I just got home ) and everything was presented really tight timewise and didnt feel rushed

fav parts about the film

1. When Batman has his first fight with Bane, I thought it was a brilliant touch to cut out any kind of music and just let the sound effects be the score to an awesome fight between the two.

2. The score! Hans Zimmer with that chanting shit gets you pumped up ( kinda reminds me of Matrix Revolutions with Neo's last fight )

3. Hell On Earth, a cool spin on how Batman / recooped / made his way back from being broken by Bane

4. Bane!

5. Michael Cane, I think he has a guaranteed Best Supporting Actor nod with this

>1. When Batman has his first fight with Bane, I thought it was
>a brilliant touch to cut out any kind of music and just let
>the sound effects be the score to an awesome fight between the
>two.

LOL


>2. The score! Hans Zimmer with that chanting shit gets you
>pumped up ( kinda reminds me of Matrix Revolutions with Neo's
>last fight )

LOL

>3. Hell On Earth, a cool spin on how Batman / recooped / made
>his way back from being broken by Bane

LOL

What "spin?"

>4. Bane!

Yeah, we heard about him in Detective Comics 666

>5. Michael Cane, I think he has a guaranteed Best Supporting
>Actor nod with this

LOL -- for crying?

LOL

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Not better better than TDK nor is it better than The Avengers.

TDKR and Avengers couldn't be more different.

It's going to bug the hell out of me to read these "A>B" posts and hear people debate the two. They're different in every conceivable way and both are excellent. The two don't really need a comparison of quality.

TDKR has the awesome brutality of Bane.
The Avengers? Well, they've got a Hulk (c) Stark

They're two different animals entirely. It's easy to point out things each one do better, but each film has it's own space and appeal.

so they can be compared,despite their tonal differences. I enjoyed The Avengers a lot more.

>so they can be compared,despite their tonal differences. I
>enjoyed The Avengers a lot more.

That's the fundamental difference between them.

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Allow me to be the first hater.

I didn't like it.

Bane's voice was ridiculous. He sounded like Patrick Stewart. Yeah he looked perfect, but the voice didn't match up at all and in parts it came off as unintentional comedy. I was like please oh please have him say "Make it so."

In fact, at one point I leaned over to my wife and said "Use the force, Harry."

The scene with Catwoman disappearing on Batman "So that's what that feels like..." was a corny Tim Burton-ish moment that was totally out of place.

As I was leaving the theater, I realized that I really didn't enjoy this Batman reboot at all. The only highlight for me was Heath Ledger as the joker. I read that Christopher Nolan didn't mention the Joker at all in this movie out of respect, but for a character that was the centerpiece of the whole trilogy, I think it would have been far more respectful to weave the Joker more closely into the story, or at least the effect he had...instead of just never mentioning him again.

Christian Bale's Batman voice was still annoying.

Actually no, there were too other highlights: 1) in this movie, were the two cameos by Prison Break actors. Which probably wasn't a big deal to most of the people in the audience. But I thought it was fun. 2) When they showed a photo of Bruce Wayne's lost love, it seemed like they used a pic of Katie Holmes, instead of Maggie G. For some reason that was funny to me.

Call me a hater, or say I'm mad or whatever. I don't care. The Avengers was fun. Prometheus was fun. This movie was not fun. I didn't care about the characters, the ending was cheesy, and in general the whole thing took itself way too seriously.

Plus, I read this partly as huge commentary on the Occupy Wall Street movement. It plays out like a rich person's nightmare. The conflicting "Give Gotham City back to the people" message along with "I'm blowing up this whole city" along with the big standoff between cops and Bane's men...almost offensively bad.

Sorry to piss in the cornflakes. You guys can go about loving this movie and re-watching it. But a lot of you guys shit on Prometheus and I thought that was terrific. So we're even I guess.

I don't know what the fuck you were watching, but that be Maggie in those pictures.

wow Nolan out did himself. Im not going to dissct and analyze the shit out of it just yet. The storyline was great it had great twists and turns and kept me on the edge of my seat. I wasnt that amped to see it because i though bane and catwoman didnt look the part but their parts in the story and how they portrayed trumped their looks. I was pissed that bane wasnt going to pump u but hardy had a hel of a performance and he was really a frankenstein monster. the emotianl rollercoaster on this movie and the highs were extreme and just right. great movie up there with dark knight if not better. if it wasnt for heath ledger as the joker this movie would shit all over dark knight.

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couple small issues rked me a lil, but dammit that was a fun, awesome experience

where the hell was Alfred really when bruce "lost" all his money? i refuse to think that Pennyworth would leave the son he raised and loved....

>couple small issues rked me a lil, but dammit that was a fun,
>awesome experience
>
>where the hell was Alfred really when bruce "lost" all his
>money? i refuse to think that Pennyworth would leave the son
>he raised and loved....


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1.) Did anyone else notice that Rob Brown was playing Crispus Allen from the comics in the one scene. Wish he had a bigger part.

2.) How desperate are people to see this on a real IMAX? I hustled this dumbass out of $350the yesterday for four IMAX tickets I had.

You're the man now dawg!...lok
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I missed the part where they explained why Bane was never given control of The League of Shadows instead of Batman. Why not Bane if RaS Ghouls saved and trained him instead of Batman?

>I missed the part where they explained why Bane was never
>given control of The League of Shadows instead of Batman. Why
>not Bane if RaS Ghouls saved and trained him instead of
>Batman?

Talia explained that Ras really saved bane because Bane initall saved/protected his daughter in that prison, but after training him and looking at his "new" appearance on the constant, he started to see bane as a reminder of Ras' ailure to take care of his family at that time they were in prison/his cowardice of leaving them/ and bgan to see bane as a monster.....so in short, he ain't really like duke, but kept him around for awhile for talia til he couldn't take looking at him anymore.......

but there was really no way they could've fucked that up. not sure if i like this or TDK better, but i do like the ending better. There is some stuff they could've cut (too much talking to old dudes in prison, for instance) and there are too many new characters for the end of a trilogy. At almost 3 hours, there's enough time to sort them out, but I didn't think they were all necessary. Still it didn't feel long, and the ending makes up for the problems it had (though the kiss...wtf? it's moments like that where someone else would yell "GO!!!"). I still don't really see the problem people had with the football scene. Bane wants to make an entrance and let Gotham know what kind of chaos to expect.

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specifically in the prison Bane left him in and when Bruce finally makes that jump while climbing out and the cue up the score ..i was like awwwwwww shit!..lol
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>specifically in the prison Bane left him in and when Bruce
>finally makes that jump while climbing out and the cue up the
>score ..i was like awwwwwww shit!..lol
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the whole time he wqas trying to figure out what he was doing wrong, i KNEW it was that damn rope LOL.... i was a lil pissy that he didn't figure it out on his own at first, but in retrospect it's a dope play on the old concept "you're never to old to learn"

Like that old doctor dude in prison could have
been Mr. Miyagi talking to Daniel Son

This movie was so shitty, filled with ripoffs
and cliches

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Not even comparing his performance to Ledger, but the character of Bane was pulled off so damn well. So frightening. He came up with a damn good plan, too.

Mostly loved it, for most of the reasons already stated. Hathaway shitted on all the people who didn't think she could pull it off (would have liked to see Catwoman with short hair, though.) Bale was top notch, and with the exception of the "WHURRSUDITONAHTUR" scene the growl wasn't too bad.

I couldn't stop thinking about HTF Bruce, with no money or bat gadgets at his disposal, made it back to a completely isolated Gotham though. I know it's nit picking, but it got on my nerves.

That initial fight scene between Bats and Bane was fucking jaw dropping.

really shut some hoes UP...

I think virtually everyone I knew who was amped for this was pissed at her casting and all claimed she couldn't do it.

Admittedly, I wasn't 100% on board...until I saw her in the catsuit up close and person when they were shooting here in Pittsburgh *and* saw her do a bit of fight choreography...

I said, you know what, I want to see what she does. then the trailers come out, then I see her performance...

oh she KILLED IT from start to finish. Like, if Jonathan aka Jonah Nolan was called in to write a Catwoman movie for Anne, I.WOULD.FUCKING.BE.THE.FIRST.IN.LINE.TO.GET.FUCKING.TICKET

She was fantastic and I think she obliterated Halle Berry's performance without question and rightfully assumes her spot near Michelle Pfeiffer in the Catwoman portrayals line.

bane was the best villain/most frightening, and joker was the best portrayal. does that make sense?

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Ledge's Joker shits all the fuck over Bane. not even close. not even worth discussing. insulting to even broach the subject.

tha fuck is wrong with y'all? seriously.

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Maybe 4th if you can't Catwoman. People who are writing this are high on the hype. Bane offered almost nothing but an equally funny voice to battle Batman's gruffness.

I am surprised this flick is getting all this love. Worst of the 3 in my opinion.

I was too caught up laughing at Bane's microphone
feedback voice...I barely paid attention to Batman

Though his voice was also hideous

He's a billionaire...he can't afford some Nyquil??

Cmon fam

Suck on a Hall's or some shit, pause


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6:30 am IMAX show
breakfast/brunch
came home and slept/napped with a smile on my face


no trailers for for my showing unfortunately
but i'm ok with it


Anne did a fabulous job
Bale did his per usual fabulous job
Oldman the same
freeman the same
YES i called JGL from the preview and he did a fabulous job as well
yumyum Daniel Sunjata
omg teal'c
miranda is fantastic!

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Sooo glad it was fixed
Still some difficult to understand moment but
BUT
That voice is almost a character by itself
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>Sooo glad it was fixed
>Still some difficult to understand moment but
>BUT
>That voice is almost a character by itself

You mean, now you can understanding 40% of his
dialogue?

LOL

He was basically unlistenable

It was an embarrassing

Nolan isn't even trying





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You might want to work on your typos to say what you mean

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>You might want to work on your typos to say what you mean

Nah I wrote typos on purpose in the spirit of Bane

I mean, Bane spoke in perfect English that nobody
heard


If I typed the way Bane spoke, would you understand me
then?


How about this:


*DESTRO VOICE*


Y__ m_d a_ sh__


Bw____a__h____a_________h___

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more than one
you can admit it
its ok

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You cannot hate people for their own good.

I mean, you couldn't hear a single word Bane
said

And here you have me raining on your parade
with the facts

I could just let you lie to yourself, but I prefer
to remind you that you didn't hear anything Bane
said

Sucks, don't it?

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i'm also not the one making mistakes

those are your facts

oh wait you seem kinda slow
here is your LOL
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fetch
you mad doggie you
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meh 2...well, maybe meh is not the right 'word' per-se' because it maybe infers 'bad' to some, i dont think it stunk...but it was 'alright'...it has some good & cool things, but overall i'd say, for me 'meh' sums it up similarly to post # 114 above....

some of my meh reasons for "Meh' are different from "Meh" post 114s reasons, but some are the same....

for example, i actually LIKED Banes voice, but 'maybe' not always for the reasons the director may have intended. I thought his voice was 'ironically somewhat humorous' because of the fact that it was coming from such a menacing LOOKING (and acting) figure...that odd mixture of fierce menacing figure with the muddled 'unique' voice/accent kinda throws you off kilter and in a way.... in some situations it worked because that 'off-kilter-ness' had a subtly unnerving effect, while in other situations it was actually just plain funny. (i actually agree with post #114 that it sounds like Patrick Stewart but i'd also through in a dash of Grover from the muppets too, and there you have it...Banes voice)

so again, i actually didn't mind Banes voice at all (again, 'maybe' not always for the intended reasons) but i found myself kinda delighted when he was in a scene. Dont get me wrong, I absolutely DO think his screen presence was menacing, threatening, unpredictable powerful and frightening...the actor did a great job in that regard, and so perhaps the voice mix DID work as intended on me after all? (or at least, didn't detract so much as to make Bane lose that 'fear factor' effect.)

So I liked Bane.

another thing i liked (that i actually THOUGHT i would HATE going in to the movie) was Anne Hathaway's portrayal of Catwoman.

I thought Joseph Gordon-Levitts acting & character were great too.

Michael Cain is always great, so thats a given and his Alfred is right on target and could not be any better.

I like the Bike and i've always loved the Tumblers. (i WANT both)

Bale as 'Bruce' is solid as usual. (though i too think his bat-voice comes off as funny)

I really liked the Scarecrow too...that Murphy guy does him great...

so you'll see i'm not a complete hater for the sake of hatin...there is some stuff that i really dug....but....

As a movie though, there were a lot of logistical things that just kinda bugged me througout (i wont list them ALL now, but i think i've seen many listed in earlier posts that i glanced at. Maybe i'll come back and list them all though)
Not a fan of some of the dialogue (seemed very 'over written' in many places). It seemed very aware of itself if you know what i'm saying.
And in some situations, there was a lack of logic and/or efficiency in either a characters choice and/or plot direction...it seemed to me that they sometimes went about achieving their goals in rather convoluted ways, when there appeared to be easier more direct ways to achieve the same goals. Overall, as a movie it seemed to take itself a tad bit seriously....not that that that is ALWAYS a bad thing in a movie, but here, for me, i found myself sometimes kinda giggling when it it did...

so, i know i'm in the minority here, but my favorite of the 3 Nolan Bat films as a movie is actually Batman Begins. While I thought Ledgers Joker was GREAT in TDK, but as a movie, i liked the first one better.

I fuckin loved this shit though.

That's been the joke around the house today.

*Bruce Wayne Chillin in France Smile*


What an absolutely delightful steaming pile of shit.



Fans of 'The Last Boyscout' should beware.



In all honesty, I'd say its below 'Demolition Man'
and above 'Tango and Cash'. Its about as good as
'The Last Boyscout'. In the very elite of
G.S.M.'s ever made.


Or at least I'm telling myself that. Those IMAX
tickets were pricey.


For those of you that don't know, GSM's are
a genre of movie that can be enjoyed to death
when you suspend any standard of a good movie
and fixate on the awesomeness of a handful of
scenes or one cool character. When examined through
a standard lens, the acting in these movies is
almost always horrid, and the storyline is usually
full of massive, unforgivable gaps.


TDKR delivers perfectly.


Like most GSM's, the story in DKR was absolutely
horrid at worst and irrelevant at best. Thankfully,
Christopher Nolan didn't care about the storyline,
because even he knew that it was dogshit to the point
where he didn't bother making it cohesive or
interesting. I was watching this film and literally
SAW where Nolan was like "Man, fuck this, let's plan
an explosion, I'm tired of this bullshit story."


Here are the facts:

- By movie #3, nobody cares about the league of shadows
anymore. It was tiresome by the end of BB. The "bring chaos
to Gotham" angle is so unimaginative that the movie almost
sounded like an Austin Powers movie (honestly).


- The entire plot is basically filler to keep us
busy while we focus on a few things:

a) Batman getting broken and healing and beating Bane (we're
sitting and waiting for this shit the whole movie)

b) Robin being born

c) The scenes between Batman and Catwoman


Everything else is noise. Children being born in/climbing
out of prison; chaos; bridges, league of shadows....
...we don't fucking care. We're like "Break Batman's
back, have him heal so I can go home and get some sleep."


- Which brings me to Bane. We literally take him as
seriously as Dr. Evil; We don't care about Bane because Nolan
doesn't need us to. He's a vehicle, not an actual villain,
which is why we can't fucking understand 60% of the things
he says. He sounds like Destro talking underwater. Thankfully,
his voice could have been mute the whole movie, because I doubt
that anything he says would have added anything.


- In regards to Catwoman, we're mildly intrigued, and
not only because we want Batman to die having fucked
a woman hotter than Maggie Gyllenhall. Her Robinhood
story and enlightenment were forgettable but they could
certainly have done worse with her. Good job overall.


-The birth of Robin was well done. Probably the only
cohesive story told the entire movie. The guy who
played him was good. His intentions had rhyme and reason.
Nolan actually sat down and scripted those scenes.
Well done.


- Commissioner Gordon was cool. I dig the range, him
being forced into difficult circumstances. He can
act.


- The whole "finding yourself" thing with Wayne climbing
out of prison...LOL...we already learned that lesson in
the Karate Kid movies, guy. I mean, geez. Just delete that
shit, we didn't need it.


- Not a fan of Alfred. The whole "I dream that I see
you in France" thing was a direct ripoff of Ben Affleck
"I hope to not see you in the morning" scene from
'Goodwill Hunting'. Think about it. Its a DIRECT ripoff.
Alfred deserves better than to be crying in half his
scenes. Have him do some ESSENTIAL shit in the movie.
Don't have his character go out crying like a fucking
pussy. Seriously.


- Again: the league of shadows angle was dumb. I almost
spit out my gummi bears (damn right I ration them out
during the WHOLE movie...got it down to a science) when
Liam Neeson showed up, like Ben Kenobi's evil brother.
I almost expected Bruce Wayne to reach out and go "Ben!!
Ben!! Degaba system...must go to the degaba system!!!"


- LMAO @ the Scoobie Doo "twist." It worked perfectly because
nobody cared about the bitch at the center of the twist.
Like, who the fuck was she? Nobody was paying her any
attention. We were happy Wayne tapped that, I guess...but...
really, who the fuck was she? Oh, she was that baby who climbed
out the sewer? Oh, ok. I mean, we all saw that mark on her
back, so we KNEW she was a bad guy, but...we didn't bother
to think about it because she wasn't interesting.


- Lastly, Christian Bale was GREAT. His lines were dumb.
his interaction with Alfred was LOL but Bale KILLED his
scenes. He finally GOT Bruce Wayne. Shame, because its
the end of the trilogy. He's only now starting to really
get it. Dude had the whole game on lock.




- Which takes me to the best scene in the movie:



Nope!!!! Wayne was CHILLIN IN FRANCE!!! That smile was
GOLDEN!!! Ninja was CHILLIN with his thug bitch in
Europe grinnin' at Alfred from across that cafe!!

Bwahahahahah


That's the stuff of a great GSM, folks.


Easily the best scene in the movie


Just an amazing smile, no homo. He deserve an
academy nomination JUST for the way he was posted
up at that table. I was CHEESING just like him.


Summary: I'm trying to like it, guys. There was enough
cute stuff to qualify as a good GSM....but my god,
Nolan makes it difficult.


He need to take a vacation. Direct some rap videos or
some shit because movies just aren't his thing.

Thankfully for him, only about 8 people think for
themselves, which is why people like Christopher
Nolan and Big Sean have careers. And good for them.

Personally, I prefer good directors and rappers.

I think my views on Nolan would a tad less harsh
if Joss Whedon didn't just teach us what a really
good film made my an actually smart, good filmmaker
looks like.


Whedon was supposed to bring balance.


And now we have this shit again.


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and, i gotta say dead on too...(even though i actually liked alfred.)

my brother and i have this ongoing debate...I'm an 'Iron Man 1' and 'Avengers' / Whedon defender, while he is a 'Dark Knight' / Nolan (and i'm sure soon to be 'DKRises' defender...(i actualy liked the first Nolan Batman film though....

anywayz, your review had me laughin my ass off...AND it was remarkably accurate IMO. so i guess 'well done' is what i want to say...

But I still enjoyed reading it.

*Orders up another latte*

yup, ma shell and i have a wednesday matinee date to see tdkr.

i'm just checking in to point out, you've got dudes worrying about your presence 30 replies before you say nary a word.

got the internet going nuts.

You Red Letter Media'd the fuck out of it. Well done. And agreed

Apoptosis...you mad?

im shocked you liked a couple things :) :) ;)

Since I fucking LOVE Demolition Man and those other flicks.

Can you imagine if Nolan and 'em had embraced that fun? I actually feel like they kind of did in Act 3.

>- By movie #3, nobody cares about the league of shadows
>anymore. It was tiresome by the end of BB. The "bring chaos
>to Gotham" angle is so unimaginative that the movie almost
>sounded like an Austin Powers movie (honestly).

uh-huh. the whole plot was basically the same as Batman Begins.

>-The birth of Robin was well done. Probably the only
>cohesive story told the entire movie.

lol, Robin was omnipresent as shit tho. always at the right sewer hatch, hospital doorway, building entry...

>- The whole "finding yourself" thing with Wayne climbing
>out of prison...LOL...

anybody with a brain saw that it paralleled his childhood incident from Batman Begins, but Nolan one-upped his "color inside the lines" storytelling technique with another awful flashback of the actual scene

>- Not a fan of Alfred.

Alfred was a fucking joke. the look on his face when Bruce and Selina are eating dinner was some Benny Hill shit. I was ready for Looney Toons blackout circle around his "shocked" expression.

>- Again: the league of shadows angle was dumb. I almost
>spit out my gummi bears (damn right I ration them out
>during the WHOLE movie...got it down to a science) when
>Liam Neeson showed up, like Ben Kenobi's evil brother.

I WAS IN TEARS...maybe the funniest part of the movie

>- LMAO @ the Scoobie Doo "twist." It worked perfectly because
>>nobody cared about the bitch at the center of the twist.

just when I thought Nolan couldn't write a shittier female lead opposite Batman, he outdoes himself! even the awesomeness of Marion Cottilard couldn't save that laughable plot twist.

>He sounds like Destro talking underwater.


>- In regards to Catwoman, we're mildly intrigued, and
>not only because we want Batman to die having fucked
>a woman hotter than Maggie Gyllenhall.


>Liam Neeson showed up, like Ben Kenobi's evil brother.
>I almost expected Bruce Wayne to reach out and go "Ben!!
>Ben!! Degaba system...must go to the degaba system!!!"

first off, gotta apologize for the delay, i know this shit is mad late but when i first saw the movie i was busy as fuck at work and as said, i sat almost in the front fucking row which does NOT work for real IMAX screens, i definitely missed shit the first time out. the second time, my black ass fell asleep (people with kids need to stay away from 10PM movies at night, at least ones that last almost 3 hours), but I was well rested when I left! Third time was a charm.

>*Bruce Wayne Chillin in France Smile*
Nigga was in Florence, Italy first off, not good for your detail game, but let's keep moving


>For those of you that don't know, GSM's are
>a genre of movie that can be enjoyed to death
>when you suspend any standard of a good movie
>and fixate on the awesomeness of a handful of
>scenes or one cool character. When examined through
>a standard lens, the acting in these movies is
>almost always horrid, and the storyline is usually
>full of massive, unforgivable gaps.
much of this willfull ignorance which you speak of can be applied to A LOT of movies that people love and definitely never call them that, but i'll stick to addressing your movie comments, i realize this was part of your build up.


>Like most GSM's, the story in DKR was absolutely
>horrid at worst and irrelevant at best.
it actually was pretty solid considering events transpired over about one year.


>Here are the facts:
>
>- By movie #3, nobody cares about the league of shadows
>anymore. It was tiresome by the end of BB. The "bring chaos
>to Gotham" angle is so unimaginative that the movie almost
>sounded like an Austin Powers movie (honestly).
dog, that's kind of what batman villains are all about, even back to the tim burton/joel schumacher shit. and it tied in well to BB since it was their behind the scenes mayhem that created him in the first place.


>- The entire plot is basically filler to keep us
>busy while we focus on a few things:
>
> a) Batman getting broken and healing and beating Bane
>(we're
> sitting and waiting for this shit the whole movie)
i mean any way we could we NOT be waiting on this, knowing bane was in it and knowing the comic story? doesn't mean the plot was just filler.

> b) Robin being born
this was less about Robin's birth and more about Batman's power to inspire, think about it, he converted his house into a haven for orphans, that's essentially a Batman farm system.

> c) The scenes between Batman and Catwoman


>Everything else is noise. Children being born in/climbing
>out of prison; chaos; bridges, league of shadows....
>...we don't fucking care. We're like "Break Batman's
>back, have him heal so I can go home and get some sleep."
that's YOU son, shit fit pretty well together and everything moved, 2:45 did not drag


>- Which brings me to Bane. We literally take him as
>seriously as Dr. Evil; We don't care about Bane because Nolan
>doesn't need us to. He's a vehicle, not an actual villain,
>which is why we can't fucking understand 60% of the things
>he says.
wrong. he's more human and has more actual motivation behind his actions than the Joker. Joker kills most everyone he deals with, if they don't serve a purpose. Bane let quite a few people live when he didn't have to.


>He sounds like Destro talking underwater. Thankfully,
>his voice could have been mute the whole movie, because I
>doubt
>that anything he says would have added anything.
nah i fucks with that "Sean Connery at a drive thru" voice. that was the funniest description I heard of his damn voice, someone on here said it.


>
>- In regards to Catwoman, we're mildly intrigued, and
>not only because we want Batman to die having fucked
>a woman hotter than Maggie Gyllenhall.
Amen, Cotillard allowed him to do that thankfully

>Her Robinhood
>story and enlightenment were forgettable but they could
>certainly have done worse with her. Good job overall.
well in reality, we're not sure what Robin Hood shit she's done, she saves a kid who stole an apple during anarchy but for the most part just get the sense she started because she had to, got good at it, then did a lot of it for kicks. I agree though, I was concerned with how she was gonna be handled but it worked for the most part.

>
>-The birth of Robin was well done. Probably the only
>cohesive story told the entire movie. The guy who
>played him was good. His intentions had rhyme and reason.
>Nolan actually sat down and scripted those scenes.
>Well done.
agreed, on my most recent viewing, it was kind of clear where he was heading throughout the film, not mad at it.


>- Commissioner Gordon was cool. I dig the range, him
>being forced into difficult circumstances. He can
>act.
Agreed


>- The whole "finding yourself" thing with Wayne climbing
>out of prison...LOL...we already learned that lesson in
>the Karate Kid movies, guy. I mean, geez. Just delete that
>shit, we didn't need it.
well the thing that stuck with me was that he basically built his rep off of not having fear, specifically not having a fear of death. it was first due to his hopeless outlook on life, his singular mission to fight crime no matter what happened to him, and the way in which he reduced his chances of dying (gadgets, body armor, etc). In BB, Falcone said it, Ras said it, in this movie Alfred said it and Bane said it, death was not something he was scared of, which became a weakness. He'd have gone up that rope 1,000 times till the dude broke down how much of a motivator fear of death could be, so it worked. I mean going back to his dad and shit and the bats coming out of one of the cracks was already done, but the needing to fear death made sense to me.

>- Not a fan of Alfred. The whole "I dream that I see
>you in France" thing was a direct ripoff of Ben Affleck
>"I hope to not see you in the morning" scene from
>'Goodwill Hunting'. Think about it. Its a DIRECT ripoff.
only saw that movie once so will not even argue that point with you.

>Alfred deserves better than to be crying in half his
>scenes. Have him do some ESSENTIAL shit in the movie.
>Don't have his character go out crying like a fucking
>pussy. Seriously.
he didn't cry in half. he cried when he told him about rachel and at the gravesite. the rest of the time he was getting beside himself but i mean come on, the dude who's essentially his son was running himself into the ground, you can't see how that gets to be too much for someone to deal with, especially considering he never wanted him coming back to gotham in the first place?

>
>- Again: the league of shadows angle was dumb. I almost
>spit out my gummi bears (damn right I ration them out
>during the WHOLE movie...got it down to a science)
starburst fam, both bad for teeth

>when
>Liam Neeson showed up, like Ben Kenobi's evil brother.
>I almost expected Bruce Wayne to reach out and go "Ben!!
>Ben!! Degaba system...must go to the degaba system!!!"
the nigga was in a cave having just been fucked up, i'm gonna give him a pass for being delerious.

>- LMAO @ the Scoobie Doo "twist." It worked perfectly because
>nobody cared about the bitch at the center of the twist.
>Like, who the fuck was she? Nobody was paying her any
>attention. We were happy Wayne tapped that, I guess...but...
>really, who the fuck was she? Oh, she was that baby who
>climbed
>out the sewer? Oh, ok. I mean, we all saw that mark on her
>back, so we KNEW she was a bad guy, but...we didn't bother
>to think about it because she wasn't interesting.
i mean i heard about her being part of the cast so i was kind of interested to see how they were gonna use her, cause in the comic/cartoon, she and bats always got down and even when she doublecrossed him she'd never let Ras kill him. so I wasn't expecting it to break like it did, but the non-responsiveness of the doctors in the pit when telling about the kid who got out was something that i'll admit I missed, most everyone I imagine thought that it was Bane who climbed out the pit. i'm not mad at the twist, but like i said, unlike Joker, it showed the humanity in Bane. Also, chick played major head games with Bruce, she got up in his head on going away somewhere and making him think there was something to live for after his ass hit rock bottom. Catwoman was his bottom bitch, he specifically was trying to get Miranda.

>
>- Lastly, Christian Bale was GREAT. His lines were dumb.
>his interaction with Alfred was LOL but Bale KILLED his
>scenes. He finally GOT Bruce Wayne. Shame, because its
>the end of the trilogy. He's only now starting to really
>get it. Dude had the whole game on lock.
i think he's been great throughout, showing the evolution of bruce from where it all started to where he ended. i remember frank complaining about TDK not having enough focus on bruce when in my mind, he was all up IN IT, specifically setting out to free himself of being batman by elevating dent as gotham's savior, using ethically questionable means (spying on people) when he realized he was going against a villain with no code (unlike League of Shadows and them, I mean they were on that moral superiority but they did have a code), continuing to sacrifice his own happiness, and finally, allowing himself to symbolize something that went against everything he believed in for the good of the city. i mean he played the fuck out of a melancholy tragic figure throughout this shit.

>
>
>
>- Which takes me to the best scene in the movie:
>
>
>
>Nope!!!! Wayne was CHILLIN IN FRANCE!!! That smile was
>GOLDEN!!! Ninja was CHILLIN with his thug bitch in
>Europe grinnin' at Alfred from across that cafe!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence

not even mad at this fuckup, since you brought so much energy to it

>Bwahahahahah
>
>
>That's the stuff of a great GSM, folks.
>
>
>Easily the best scene in the movie
>
>
>Just an amazing smile, no homo. He deserve an
>academy nomination JUST for the way he was posted
>up at that table. I was CHEESING just like him.
>
>
>Summary: I'm trying to like it, guys. There was enough
>cute stuff to qualify as a good GSM....but my god,
>Nolan makes it difficult.

aside from what i agreed with you above, i'll give my major issues with the movie:

-the stock exchange going from day to night so fast. it closes at around 5 so i could buy if after an hour or so of the chase, it would get dark, but in august-september it doesn't get THAT dark until much later at night.

-"prisoner" movement. how bruce got himself in, i get they were in wayne towers but no way in hell none of bane's people wouldn't alert him that bruce wayne was back. i can buy bruce getting back into the city dolo (he was trained as a ninja and knows the ins and outs of the city like none other) but him being seen publicly and bane not knowing shit until he lights up the bat sign in fire is ehhhhh to me.

-even how the special forces cats got in, they come in some rescue mission truck and motherfuckers let that fly when those dudes DAMN sure didn't look like relief workers

-not fond of the opening to the final battle scene. shit was dumb. handguns versus assault weapons? FOH. in 300, at least it was about numbers rather than superior weaponry of one to the other.


things that people complained about that I disagreed/was cool with:

-his fighting after being out of the game for so long. i mean he did NOT look the same, not at all. it was clear that he wasn't the same dude as TDK but that's cool since he was still better than anyone besides a beast like Bane. and he was never SUPPOSED to be able to fuck with that dude, he was out of shape, past his prime, and never matured into a more patient fighter, which bane alluded to when he fucked him up. during their last fight though, he still wasn't going to beat bane's ass, but he knew the mask was the key to getting him so that was legit.

-him and tate getting down in wayne manor. he just lost his money, which he clearly never gave a fuck about but it WAS something to fall back on. his mans bounced on him, he was still mourning his chick, i mean a nigga can't get no sympathy pussy?

-he wasn't a detective. FT, he peeped why kyle was there in the first place, found out who she was, and figured out what his prints were being used for.

-the batwing being on a rooftop with camo. Bane's crew was patrolling in tanks and shit, they pretty much figured they had the city on lock and had nothing to worry about with their threat to blow the shit up if anyone tried to breach. Now could they have found it, of course, but that hubris kept them from even seeing it as a threat.

-getting back to gotham in 23 days. with his set of skills and resources (what a rich guy ain't got friends in the middle east), not that big a deal. funny that no one blinked twice in batman begins when a spoiled brat ditches his ID and money, hops a boat, becomes a petty thief and a fierce brawler BEFORE anyone teaches him shit, who btw, found his ass in a prison that was walking distance from his home in the mountains. then after bruce burns the house down, he charters a jet and alfred is waiting for his ass???? um, ok niggas, nitpick TDKR and let THAT shit go LOL


all in all your takes weren't really outrageous even if i disagreed with them, but on my most recent viewing, a lot of stuff people complained about did make sense, even if some people just didn't like how it happened.

>I think my views on Nolan would a tad less harsh
>if Joss Whedon didn't just teach us what a really
>good film made my an actually smart, good filmmaker
>looks like.
I'm not going to offer any criticism on the Avengers because I really enjoyed that too, but it wasn't flawless.

the first fight between bane and batman was fantastic.

small nit pick...none of the big reveals surprised me.

not even the rope.

>small nit pick...none of the big reveals surprised me.
>
>not even the rope.

You mean, like, the climax of the movie and the single
twist that defined the entire plotline?

Bwahahahahaa

That's like saying:

"Small nitpick, but I think Batman is a pussy"


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all I said was I wasn't surprised...

I didn't say it was bad or I didn't like it.

it's not like sayin nothing other than what I said bro...

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SPOILER ALERT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4v1hAnfy1I

Because Bane was completely inaudible, he was
nodding to the era when bad guys were bad because
they were bad, not because we could hear a motherfucking
thing they were saying

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when daggett is complaining to bane that it isn't going to plan because talia is made president of wayne enterprises, bane says 'yes it is going to plan' and then kills daggett..they were pretty much saying that she was in it with bane, or at least thats how i was interpreting it...so it wasn't some big reveal at the end.

It wasn't a big reveal for two reasons:

a) It wasn't "big" -- we didn't care about that
irrelevant bitch and so when it flipped, we didn't
care. Our attention was elsewhere

b) It wasn't a reveal -- we all saw the gratuitous
camera shot of the scare on her back or whatever
part of the body that was...obviously she was a bad
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where's Colin Powell? this shit was about 164 minutes too long.

my GOD there's a lot of incomprehensible babble in this fucking movie. just talking on top of talking on top of talking. i will say JGL was selling his bullshit well. the rest of the cast? i doubt they could give you a recap of what the fuck they were talking about. i imagine they were feeding Cotillard her lines phonetically, off screen ala Michelle Tanner. either that or they just fed her a jar of peanut butter and added her voice over in post.

zero "oh shit" moments in this movie. none. nada. zip. i guess the biggest set piece was the motorcycle chase. and it's a giant pile of doo-doo next to the tunnel chase in Dark Knight.

the opening scene made zero sense. i didn't know who anyone was, what their motivation was, who was on what side...nothing. would they really accept two random dudes in a highly sensitive/secure prisoner transfer? and if so, they wouldn't check their identities first? and transferring a tiny bit of blood to a corpse really is enough to convince federal agencies that the wrong man is dead? what a stupid fucking scene.

overly-bombastic music plays over EVERY second of this shit. just loud and wrong. makes the whole thing feel like an extended trailer.

you really can't understand what the fuck Bane is saying. not that you need to, since it's all pseudo-intellectual bullshit, but that's a fundamental problem that should've been addressed. i can't even imagine how bad it was before they "fixed" it.

you send your ENTIRE POLICE FORCE underground? SERIOUSLY!?!?

too many fucking characters. Matthew Modine's character? don't give a fuck. JGL's Gotham City boys choir? don't give a fuck. Dagget? don't give a fuck. Miranda/Talia? don't give a fuck. this should've been about Bane, Batman and Catwoman. adding all these other who-gives-a-fuck characters makes an already bloated movie unwatchable.

"hell on earth" doesn't look that bad to me. there are no guards, they get cable, and they got the world's best chiropractor.

it's been discussed ad nauseum, but i've gotta state for the record again how fucking terrible Bale's batman voice is. just a hilariously bad acting choice.

the last shot of Bruce and Selena in Europe is one of the worst film-making decisions of the last 50 years (if it would've cut at Alfred's amused facial reaction, it would've been bad, but tolerable).

let's count the cliches:

-"I'm his son...no, I'm his daughter!"
-"you're stabbing me in the back (literally)? but i thought you loved me!"
-"i'm a lone wolf...i help you this one last time and then i'm outta here...until i come back and save you again"
-ticking time bomb
-bomb trigger doesn't work at the last second
-our hero is dead...or is he?

the Bat Wing was cool, i guess.

>let's count the cliches:
>
>-"I'm his son...no, I'm his daughter!"
>-"you're stabbing me in the back (literally)? but i thought
>you loved me!"
>-"i'm a lone wolf...i help you this one last time and then i'm
>outta here...until i come back and save you again"
>-ticking time bomb
>-bomb trigger doesn't work at the last second
>-our hero is dead...or is he?

There’s a storm coming. You and your friends better batten down the hatches cause when it hits you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us"-Selina Kyle

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Cold ass line and even made me say "oh no, sir"

....the line itself, plus the way the actor said it while laying his hand 'ever so softly & gently' there next to his brain and then basically almost caressing / stroking dudes head...it was un-nerving ....

How does Avengers, a movie w/100 year old soldiers, a man w/a suit of iron, a norse god & a man w/m.p.d. (multiple personality disorder) make MORE since than one w/real people?!

1)Bane: his voice, shit sounded like Sean Connery at a drive thru window
Ain't he supposed to be south american? how the fuck is he so strong w/o venom? dude had a mask as a luchador type thing due to his heritage & as a way of administering venom, NOT because his mouth hurts. how does a mask stop your mouth from hurting? did it have morphine in that shit?

2)Bruce/Batman: his voice......nuff said on that. how the fuck does he kick a damn wall down w/a brace?! how does he even get ANY hits on Bane during that 1st battle. dude only trained for a couple months. he had NO CARTILAGE ON HIS KNEE & ELBOW, how does he heal that shit in that short amount of time?! he gets his back broken, then just b/c some dude gives him a bear hug on a swing he's fine?! WHEN DOES BATMAN DODGE BULLETS?! especially from automatic weapons? how does he survive a nuclear blast tho? you're recovering from a broken back, trying to climb out of a damn well, you fail but still be fine.....ok.

3)Other movie shit: how do some cops buried underneath a city for all that time overthrow mercenaries who took over gotham in no time? there's a truck w/a nuclear bomb & you........FUCKING SHOOT AT IT?! LOL!

that's not even everything i saw wrong w/this movie. i'm done tho

Forgive me if I missed something but....

If it was the League of Shadows goal to blow up Gotham City, then why didn't they BLOW UP GOTHAM CITY??????

Once they had the reactor core, they had the ability to blow it up at any moment.

Instead, they chose to inexplicably wait five months for the fuel cells to run down at which point it would blow up anyways.

But they had Batman beat and in a prison far, far away. They had the bomb and the means to detonate it. Bane threatens to detonate it at the football stadium if anyone tries to leave Gotham.

Plus, even if you take that to be a bluff, think about this: when Talia has the knife it Batman's back, after she reveals who she is, knowing that the fuels cells haven't run down yet, she tries to detonate the bomb. This clearly demonstrates that they had the means to eradicate Gotham from the map at anytime in the prior FIVE MONTHS.

So why wait???????? That's never explained.

**EDIT**

Okay, so I know the point was almost explained when Bain said that they wanted to see Bruce watch the city die in despair, and to see his soul suffer as a result.

But they accomplished that a few weeks in. They had a tv in the prison specifically so he could watch the city die. And he did, that's why he threw a rock at the screen and broke it. So mission accomplished right? The city was in despair, and Batman witnessed it. Why no pushy pushy on the button? Kinda stuck out to me.
______________________________________________________________________________

"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
-unknown

"To Each His Reach"
-George Clinton

Where was she racing to? Why didn't she jump in the back and try to blow it? She was racing to nowhere.

Easily the dumbest, least interesting villains I've
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http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

die a slow death. now why they hadnt just detonated the bomb as soon as batman reappears, well that just logic that never appears in movies bc ppl don't want to go see depressive ass ending of movies. and thats not to say they couldn't handle the plot point differently.

Bane said to the doctor he wanted the half life to get to an unstable point where it would be at it's maximum. He could have blown it right at the beginning but it wouldn't have been as big a blast.

plus he wanted to run Gotham amok....but that said there were still some holes.

but I dug it.

The scope was too large, the characters too thing, the expository dialogue too long. It was also just brutish. Very little thought into anything, just brute force vs. brute force. Batman got tricked at every turn and was only saved by the batwing.

I was bored throughout most of it.

Also, the ending was WAY to abrupt. They capture that City Hall and everyone else falls in line? Really?

>The scope was too large, the characters too thing, the
>expository dialogue too long. It was also just brutish. Very
>little thought into anything, just brute force vs. brute
>force. Batman got tricked at every turn and was only saved by
>the batwing.
>
>I was bored throughout most of it.
>
>Also, the ending was WAY to abrupt. They capture that City
>Hall and everyone else falls in line? Really?


It sucked.

Just say it.



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I went in not expecting too much and just hoping that it didn't botch the trilogy ala Spider-man 3, X-Men 3, Blade 3, Batman Forever.

Also, having seen Prometheus, Snow White and the Huntsman, and The Kill List this year, my bottom of the barrel is pretty low.

I didn't like the film and was bored and will never watch it again but I was at least happy that it was just not good and not a complete misfire like the other third movies in comic book trilogies.

So yeah, it sucked but it could have sucked a whole helluva lot more.

Won a dunk contest via affirmative action but
was never an all-star

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Bruce Wayne is building a nuke generator and only AFTER he builds it does he think, "Shit, someone could use this as a weapon." And weaponizing it requires A. a scientist who has never seen it to just hit buttons for two minutes and voila, it's a bomb with a remote detonator or B. just unplug the thing and you have a time bomb with a five month fuse.

Very little in this movie doesn't register a WTF?

Going super duper extra mega crazy hard to convince everyone how shitty the movie is.

rest of the time he's spending on here blindly replying... but it's everyone else who is mad! lol

>Going super duper extra mega crazy hard to convince everyone
>how shitty the movie is.

I'm one of 3 people who thought for themselves in this
post, honestly

There's a nigga in here saying that the Batman Trilogy
is on par with the GODFATHER trilogy but I'm "hating?"

^BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAH
HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Y'all inflating this sorry, sappy silly dumbass movie
to legendary status when it doesn't even meet BASIC
movie benchmarks

You can't even HEAR THE VILLAIN for more than HALF
the fucking movie

Bwahahahahahaahahahahahaha

This shit sucks


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

WHY?

hates not the wow factor here. Comparing the series to the godfather? Best action movie ever? C'mon.

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Skrillex.

And it's closer to Michael Bay than it is The Godfather, that's for damn sure.

declaring this (or about to declare it) "the most overrated trilogy of all time"

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Skrillex.

it's definitely not the most overrated trilogy. The Dark Knight is a legitimate bad ass movie. the last act of that one, especially all of the Two-Face stuff, is pretty shitty, but Ledger's performance alone carries it to legendary status.

but Dark Knight Rises is just shit. it just is. this will be an "Avatar"-type scenario...remember everyone was sucking that movie off when it came out? watched it lately? it's a pile of garbage.

Note that I said most overrated not worst.

I think the Dark Knight is overrated as a film and the Dark Knight Rises is completely overrated by the looks of this thread. I'm confident that over time, everything but Ledger's performance will fade like the first two Burton movies.

y'all are just buying into the hype about Catwoman and Bane. both performances sucked. the movie was bloated and full of cliches. the ending was embarrassing and went against all of the themes the trilogy tried to establish.

but y'all are in here participating in the circle-jerk because you got suckered by the hype.

Not sure why you're so angry, but whatever floats your boat

Everybody but you, a known troll, and SoulHonky liked the movi-- er, sorry, "fell for the hype." It's okay, you'll live.

EDIT: forgot RJ.

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Skrillex.

i'll keep waiting

I suppose you'll keep typing angry while you're "waiting," right?

Yeah, you're officially joke status to me.

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Skrillex.

why so serious?

That would be him, Ternary Star and his insane ranting, and yourself, who at least managed to keep it mild.

OE is going overboard as usual but to label anyone on a message board who didn't like the movie and is willing to state it as "hate" seems a bit much.

Oh, and I missed the three people comment. Not sure which post it was in but I didn't see it in the post I responded to.

>OE is going overboard as usual but to label anyone on a
>message board who didn't like the movie and is willing to
>state it as "hate" seems a bit much.

Anyone? Nah. You're right, you don't fit that mold. OE and TS do, however. They absolutely warrant that label.

>Oh, and I missed the three people comment. Not sure which post
>it was in but I didn't see it in the post I responded to.

Not sure what happened, but that statement *should've* said 98% of the hate in this poast came from 3 people. Once in awhile I get that unix error, so maybe I resent the post and it didn't go through or something, I dunno. That said, I apologize. I do give those out when I'm wrong, and in this case, I was wrong.

TS and OE can fuck each other though.

with some valid points about the quality of this shit?

cuz i haven't read anything in this post besides delusion fanboy nonsense.

and we'll leave it at that.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Language you speak to others with.

y'all literally have ZERO defense for this movie other than "wow...seriously blown away. already bought my tickets for a second viewing"

great cinematic discussion. thanks.

>y'all literally have ZERO defense for this movie other than
>"wow...seriously blown away. already bought my tickets for a
>second viewing"
>
>great cinematic discussion. thanks.

you telling people to "sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up" is great cinematic discussion?

No, you inbred dolt. It isn't. You weren't interested in thoughtful discussion from two sides of the fence. You interested in your usual "shut the fuck up/you people are idiots" bullshit and nothing more. So that's what your dense, bitch ass will get. So sit the fuck down, and shut the fuck up, you hillbilly goat fucker.

you've offered up nothing but bullshit.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^your words.

No point in discussing anything with you, bitch.

look, when people are talking shit, they need someone to tell them to shut the fuck up.

claiming that Hardy's Bane is a better performance than Ledger's Joker is BULLSHIT.

y'all would stand around like NPR listeners like "hmm...he may have a point. let's evaluate this from all angles."

NO. that's stupid bullshit and it needs to be shut down.

objectively speaking, Ledger's performance was more dynamic and engaging and was the fuel that propelled the Dark Knight forward. the Bane character wasn't half as engaging.

hurt feelings? lol.

NO, just talking to your dumb, childish ass on your terms.

By your logic though.... this would mean you had hurt feelings at the sight of people having a different opinion than you in the first place. All this "well people saying things that I disagree with warrants saying things like this" is bullshit. You're a childish bitch who doesn't know how to discuss shit without the mudslinging. So shut the fuck up.

i made a post calling out valid faults of the movie and the Zoo called it "hate"...which is the rallying cry of the mentally deficient

Like Batman at the end of The Dark Knight, I can take it.

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Skrillex.

that in itself speaks volumes about the level of unreasonable, angry dickhead you've been in here from the start.

duly noted

I won't bother explaining the relevance of that statement to you though.

Although I do have to agree with Star that people haven't really engaged his issues (or I missed the post perhaps) and that from the jump he's just been dismissed as a hater. Granted, his recent posts aren't doing much the assuage that hater opinion but the main points of people who are critical of this film haven't really been addressed.

in the end, I don't think they can be. The flaws are legit but some people can overlook them. I liked Avengers despite it being flawed; I had fun. Others didn't have fun and I could see how they thought the movie sucked because it was, indeed, flawed.
I feel like I'm on the other end of it on this one; I (and I think OE and Star and RJ) found the movie boring so all of the flaws became glaring and made a boring film worse for us.

You're playing yourself trying to sound all fair
and shit.

You didn't like the movie. You've been able to
intelligently explain why.

No one has been able to intelligently explain why
they like it.

You/Me/Ternary/Rjcc are destroying people in here.

Start acting like it.

Geez.



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

>Although I do have to agree with Star that people haven't
>really engaged his issues (or I missed the post perhaps)

For what? Why would anyone? His head is wedged too far up his ass to discuss anything with. His whole steeze is he's just flat out smarter for not liking it. Hell, I've got my own issues with it (especially after a second showing), but he's not even remotely reasonable. His whole "sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up" and his talk about how people with certain opinions (i.e, ones he disagrees with) warrant such talk. Not because of the way anyone has spoken to him, but because of their opinions. Don't sit here and tell me with a straight face that that is even worth engaging in honestly for a second.

>that from the jump he's just been dismissed as a hater.

LOL it's NOT BECAUSE OF HIS OPINIONS. How are you not getting this? How is this lost on you? IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE POSTS!!!

>Granted, his recent posts aren't doing much the assuage that
>hater opinion but the main points of people who are critical
>of this film haven't really been addressed.

Like I said, he's proven there's no point in engaging with him about the film. None. His attitude and verbiage make that a fruitless endeavor if you don't see shit his way. You don't see it because you agree with him.

>in the end, I don't think they can be. The flaws are legit but
>some people can overlook them. I liked Avengers despite it
>being flawed; I had fun. Others didn't have fun and I could
>see how they thought the movie sucked because it was, indeed,
>flawed.

LOL find me all these movies that aren't flawed. Dig 'em up. Let's talk about all these flawless movies. If we're talking about liking movies despite their flaws, well hell, we'll be here forever.

>I feel like I'm on the other end of it on this one; I (and I
>think OE and Star and RJ) found the movie boring so all of the
>flaws became glaring and made a boring film worse for us.

Fine. Cool. Lovely. Are you telling people to shut up, or more or less saying you're just flat out smarter than everyone who likes it, or that you (unlike them) can think for yourself? No, you're not....but it is really fucking weird that you're defending the guy who is as though he's just having a civil, friendly, tactful discussion in which he just happens to disagree.... which is bullshit.

So far as OE, his mind was made up the day he read that the movie was being MADE. I put no stock in anything he says and won't bother engaging him because his mind was made up before a solitary frame was shot.

>So far as OE, his mind was made up the day he read that the
>movie was being MADE. I put no stock in anything he says and
>won't bother engaging him because his mind was made up before
>a solitary frame was shot.

We call ^this being a dumb pussy who's scared to death,
scared to look, you shook




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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

To argue that it's not worth responding to him in a post where you've responded to him countless times doesn't make much sense.

If you don't think he's worth engaging in intelligent conversation, why do you engage in nonsensical name calling? It's tough to act like he's the sole reason for the animosity in this thread when you reply with stuff like "Why don't you shut up you dumb cunt?"

what the fuck are you talking about?

There's a shit ton of it, and it all comes from you two.
% of people does not=% of posts, you semen gargling cunt.

Now go run both of your hands through a meat grinder, bitch.

>There's a shit ton of it, and it all comes from you two.
>% of people does not=% of posts, you semen gargling cunt.
>
>Now go run both of your hands through a meat grinder, bitch.

http://youtu.be/qS7nqwGt4-I

You a sissy sissy sissy, ain't you?

You wanna cookie cookie cookie??

Ooohh youu a sissy sissy sissy

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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the acting was spectacular too... I was hating big time on the Hathaway addition but she was arguably one of the highlights... All the regulars from the past 3 were amazing too, especially Caine

the disappointment was definitely that Tate was really Talia due to the fact the early rumors blew that from the beginning...

just a well thought out story and a perfect trilogy the way things were tied together...

I look forward to seeing it again

>the acting was spectacular too... I was hating big time on
>the Hathaway addition but she was arguably one of the
>highlights... All the regulars from the past 3 were amazing
>too, especially Caine

Caine cried

>the disappointment was definitely that Tate was really Talia
>due to the fact the early rumors blew that from the
>beginning...

That was dumb, nobody cared

>just a well thought out story and a perfect trilogy the way
>things were tied together...


LOL

>I look forward to seeing it again

LOL

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how, in any way, was that a great ending?

it went against everything that defined Selena Kyle's character. it was WAY to on-the-nose. WAY too cliched and hollywood. WAY too cheesy.

please tell me how that's a great ending.

they consistently built her up as someone who wanted to get out of the game... had her tearing up when Batman caught that ass whipping, made her sole focus be finding a way for a Fresh Start... how did that go against anything?

it was consistent with this movie's version of Catwoman.

they bastardized the comic version - where she gets off on being an unobtainable cocktease - but you're right...the movie's cliched hollywood ending was consistent with the character they presented here.

i'll retract my objection to the ending. it's terrible, but at least consistant with the rest of the movie.

I gotta mostly agree with O_E here. it was just empty.

in a two and a half hour flick, we spent roughly four minutes getting to know the villains and the impetus for their master evil plan is...ol girl wants to complete her father's work (which was what again?)

they just wanted to fuck over gotham in a really complex way?

the end was bizarre.

so she triggers the bomb, even though its going to explode on its own in ten more minutes anyway. so she's not mad that it didn't go off, why trigger it at all anyway?

the whole putting batman in the prison thing was very supervillainy, but it didn't seem convincing.

I'ma go see it again in IMAX to see if that changed my opinion but I was disappointed b/c none of the shots even had impact on me the way TDK did. the whole effort felt very mailed in. but other people seem to like it so maybe I'm wrong.

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

selina kyle.

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

>I'ma go see it again in IMAX to see if that changed my opinion
>but I was disappointed b/c none of the shots even had impact
>on me the way TDK did.

Even though I prefer this flick since it's faster and more fun (actually for some of the reasons O_E stated, really), there's more iconic stuff in TDK with the Joker shots.

i guess when his bank account got cleaned out, his Amazon shipments stopped

Goddamn, you are mad as fuck, bro

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Skrillex.

>Goddamn, you are mad as fuck, bro
>


For real. OE is just doing his schtick 'partially' to ensure nobody can accuse him of actually liking it but ternary star is coming off actually mad lol.

opinion? Are you that much smarter than me because you didn't like the voice that Bale gave Batman?

Are you going to flip the fuck out some more? Because if so, I have no interest -- above the interest that I barely have in the first place -- in continuing this conversation. You can take that overly-aggressive, "I'm mad cause y'all liked it and I didn't so that means y'all dumb" shit someplace else. Thanks.

___________________________________________________________________________
Skrillex.

that you have bad taste.

cuz Bale sounds like a congested cartoon troll. it's distractingly bad. and it's a fault that even defenders of this franchise have pointed out numerous times.

so if you're saying there's nothing wrong with his ridiculous voice, you've obviously bought into the hype. which is fine...enjoy your shitty movie, but don't try to convince me that it's not actually shitty.

older batman movies... so then all the people complaining that it's dumb that nobody knows batman is bruce wayne would have another reason to cry

no. obviously not.

did he need to sound like Cookie Monster? probably not.

should someone on the production team steered him away from that choice? probably.

jesus christ.

other than blood pressure meds might be able to help the little problem you're having right now


>enjoy your shitty movie, but don't try to convince me
>that it's not actually shitty.

Your first mistake is assuming that I'm taking you seriously enough to try to "convince" you of why I liked anything about this movie. It's not going to matter what I or anyone else who liked the movie types, because according to you, we all "fell for the hype" and you didn't, so you "thought for yourself" and saw how "bad" the movie was.

*yawn*

But hey, feel free to continue playing the "I'm smarter than all of you" troll role until someone else is bored enough to indulge your bullshit.

__________________________________________________________________________
Skrillex.

you idiots always fall back on "you're a hater" bullshit.

why am i hating when i'm one of the few people in here actually engaging in an actual discussion of this film's construction...rather than just "wow! so cool! loved when he punched him hard!"

you've offered nothing outside of calling me names. bring SOMETHING to the fucking table.

Here's "something"

Your supposed "valid points" against the film are being drowned out by your annoying need to troll and call people idiots for not agreeing with you that the movie is "bad."

Then you want to get mad when people call *you* names in response, then, after that, plead for "thoughtful discussion."

You can get the entire fuck outta here with that passive-aggressive internet bully shit, fam.

I mean, I just have to ask: Who do you think you are to try to dictate the tone of the discussion here?

(btw, ^that's what's called a "rhetorical question." It means you don't answer it)

((I mean, if you're going to do condescension, at least do it correctly))

If cats want to type essays about the greatness, or lack thereof, of the film, they can do so. If they want to just type shit like "ZIM ZAM ZOOGIE" in either praise or not of the movie, they can. If cats want to say they didn't like it, *then actually discuss why (like SoulHonky, RJCC and others) instead of flipping the fuck out and trolling*, then they can do so. Interesting that no one's "hating" on their concise and respectful responses.

Now, any further "challenges" from you to me regarding talking about the stuff I liked about this film will continue to be ignored. Because, like I said before, you're not going to read them or respect them, just continue to tell me and everybody else that they're mindless sheep lemmings and hype buyers. Your "mind" is already made up. No one here is going to change it about this, nor should they have to.

The fact that you came with the tired-ass "why I gotta be hating if I express my dissent HUH!?!?" line shows me that you're just trying to argue for the sake of arguing and pissing people off. That's the very definition of trolling, and it's the reason why you're joke status to me at this point.

And no, the fact that I'm not typing up "I Loved it and Here's Why!!!!!" essays in response to your tired-ass troll "challenges" is not proof that I'm a mindless follower and fan of shitty movies. So put that card away, thanks again.

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Skrillex.

cuz you're spouting nothing but tired ass bullshit. calling someone a "troll" when they disagree with you is the equivalent of someone calling a politician "Hitler"...it's just lazy and dumb. it's what you fall back on when you have no valid ammunition left.

not a single drop of interesting commentary from you about the movie. none.

so thanks for contributing nothing to the forum.

stimulate your brain, because clearly we're not doing that for you here. I mean, all we do is "spouting nothing but tired ass bullshit" and run out of ammunition.

(*glares at the camera*)

You're a "logical" person, right? That's like, the next step, isn't it? To go somewhere where you can shit on movies and the people who like them at the same time, then try to have it both ways by getting defensive when people allegedly return fire (of the ammunition that they they're running out of, that is)?

I mean, if my (superior to everybody else's, yo!!!!!!) opinions were being oppressed so bad, I shole wouldn't want to be around a place that bores and suppresses my supposed intellect and penchant for trolling, hypocrisy, and passive-aggressive "challenges."

Maybe that's just me, though. *shrugs*



*reloads gun* or whatever

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Skrillex.

i've agreed with a couple counter-points in here cuz they're well-made retorts.

i'm not against anything that i don't initially agree with (like you). i'm open for discussion.

the problem is, y'all have your lips wrapped around Nolan's tail pipe and so there's nothing you can contribute besides "golly gee" bullshit.

don't y'all want something other than 200 posts of "i'm lovin' it"? damn.

cause you liked his movie(s) !!!!!!" reference thrown in for good measure!

Talk about cliches and "running out of ammunition."

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Skrillex.

you claim a fundamentally flawed movie like this is "close to perfect"...what other conclusion can we draw but that you are dick-riding the director and/or caught up in the hype?

are disturbingly obsessed with what I'm typing here and in other places on the OkayPlayer message boards?

Nothing much at all.

You *are* upset that others liked this "fundamentally flawed" movie. That's pretty much a fact at this point.

And (figuratively) crying out "but help me understand!!!!!" is doing nothing but annoying me with its false pretense of the quest for knowledge and discussion.

You've tried to "challenge" me and others about why we liked it, when it's been pretty clear that you're going to dismiss as dumb and stupid (and whatever other tired homosexual references you can think of) whatever we type. In what world do you think people want to actually engage and indulge in that kind of shit?

You keep trying and trying and trying to get someone (me) to "discuss" and debate liking the movie with you, when your whole intent is to troll, call people variations of the word "stupid," then flip and accuse others of "mudslinging."

Not answering your fake-intellectual and somewhat arrogant pleas to explain ourselves does not make us stupid, or retarded, or (*gasp*) gay for the director. You ARE trolling, you've done nothing much but troll for the length of this entire post, and are repeatedly trying (and failing) to present yourself as some sort of Dark Knight Rises intellectual martyr, the guy who is daring to go against the grain of the groupthink and challenge the intellectually fraudulent hierarchy (me) as to the reasons why they believe that a film that you swear is "fundamentally flawed" (which is an opinion, btw) is better (another opinion) than you want to believe.

You think that with every ignored question you're presenting, you're somehow "exposing" those who actually liked the film as non-thinking, "director dick-riding" sheep, because surely, anyone who has a brain can see that it's a "fundamentally flawed" film and if you don't, it's because you (insert tired homosexual sex reference here) Christopher Nolan, not to mention are also "mentally deficient," and are in favor of groupthink. And if we were actually willing to sit up and engage you in a spirited debate and defense of The Dark Knight Rises, why it would just prove that... well, it wouldn't prove very much, actually. For the reasons I've stated in about... 4 posts now.

Your schtick is tired, bro. Give it up. Finding new and creative ways to call me an intellectual fraud just because I refuse to play ball with you and your bullshit doesn't prove much of anything, except that you've got a serious problem and should probably log off to handle it.


>what other conclusion can we draw but that you are
>dick-riding the director and/or caught up in the hype?

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Skrillex.

you haven't.

well, you haven't really done much of anything. you've just attacked me.

i've engaged you because i know you're capable of posting something other than "Nolan sure is awesome". but you seem either incapable or unwilling to do it with this movie.

i can't really blame you...it's hard to defend the glaring flaws of this flick. but don't continue to front like it's a "near-perfect" movie when confronted with all of these plot holes and weaknesses.

and am i "mad" about the love for this piece of shit? of course. i like good movies. and when idiots street team for shitty movies like this, the result is hollywood churning out more garbage. why the fuck *wouldn't* i be mad about it? it's better than the intellectual flat line y'all bring to the table.

He's trolling

He's upset that the movie wasn't as good as he hoped

Happens to the best of us

He's a smart guy, just got tripped up emotionally
over this

I don't judge, because he might be going through some
shit, which might have created the need for this shit
movie to be good




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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

*scared*

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Skrillex.

And you're usually a smart guy

You're either going through something and really
needed this movie to be good or you're trolling

Either one is fine

But its abundantly clear that you didn't like this
movie



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it did bother me when he was completely understandable and perfectly enunciated.

I mean, he's wearing some big mouth maks but as soon as he has a funny joke BOOM he's easily understood.

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>it did bother me when he was completely understandable and
>perfectly enunciated.
>
>I mean, he's wearing some big mouth maks but as soon as he has
>a funny joke BOOM he's easily understood.

I remember when that dude re-cut the movie without
Jar Jar Binks and Episode One was thousands of times
better

Bane's dialogue was just painful

I almost enjoyed the garbled microphone feedback
more than the shit I heard





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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

$76.1 Friday

$45.2 Saturday

$39.8 (estimated) Sunday


Biggest 2-D opening ever, blah blah blah

I actually think the numbers will actually be very good next weekend, as the shock of what that piece-of-shit in Colorado did starts to wear off...

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Skrillex.

The whole I could tell by the look on your face you were Batman shit made me want to vomit. The entire angle of Bruce Wayne going broke was super stupid. If a man breaks into the stock exchange and in front of a 1000 witnesses hacks into the system and then a billionaire all of a sudden goes broke no one puts 2 & 2 together? No body notices when an entire fleet of Bat Mobiles start patrolling the streets of Gotham. It was not a good movie.

That said, dude's righteous and cliched internet fury is not that hard to shoot down. Or ignore, I suppose.

He's kid gloves status, and he knows it. He's barely keeping me awake.

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Skrillex.

>That said, dude's righteous and cliched internet fury is not
>that hard to shoot down. Or ignore, I suppose.

You haven't shot it down or ignored it, mostly because
you know that I'm right

My points are impenetrable and you know that....the arguments
are good...read them...I think shit through...I'm a thinker,
a nigger who shops smart, takes care of his momma, eats his
veggies and knows good art

You guys are intellectually and artistically dishonest..
...I mean, y'all in here IGNORING the fact that YOU CANNOT
HEAR THE FUCKING VILLAIN...you didn't hear 60% of the shit
that he said

>He's kid gloves status, and he knows it. He's barely keeping
>me awake.

Except for that fact that you in here reading my posts,
furious.

: - )

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

looks like you got all these fools in here scared, actually.

And as such, we don't need to do back-and-forths

But when we do, they're fun and not meant to be taken seriously

You keep trying and failing to emulate him, mainly because you really believe all that shit you're typing

And it doesn't help that you're not funny

Like, at all

So, your lack of a sense of humor and deluded sense of self-importance is constipating you

Free that shit up, son

Literally

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Skrillex.

you're dumber than you look

And I have almost nothing to do with it

Okay, I have something to do with it, but
not a lot

I'm mostly sitting back and watching you backtrack,
trip up, sound flustered, and foaming at the mouth

Its embarrassing for you

You should have just admitted the movie's flaws
up front and you'd be good

You rode hard for it in a way that was intellectually
dishonest

I mean, I expect all these other idiots to like this
movie because most of them are lower on the evolutionary
scale....anyone who says this trilogy is on par with
Godfather is closer to a Chimp than they are to an
Orbit_Established or an Rjcc...sad, but true

But you?

I expect honesty

Maybe I thought too highly of you

*shrugs*


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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I don't think the plan was to BLOW UP Gotham originally, so I get the whole plan to destroy Bruce for turning his back on the League and taking his wealth as well as making him suffer etc.

They could have well just put the core back in the reactor and disabled everything and won with Gotham in chaos and a prison itself with all of Wayne's money and control etc.

I do think part of rewriting after Ledger's death ruined the overall story. (I could see Joker taking half of Bane's screentime and also think that may have played a part into the two completely different versions of Henchmen throughout the movie. Some of the sewer scenes seemed to scream out Joker and his henchmen and not League of Assassins.)

Still...

How the fuck did Bruce get back to Gotham undetected with no money and shit?

How tough is this prison...

I am engineering major, but, why didn't Bruce or anyone in the prison use the rope to just climb the fuck out.

Maybe I need to see it again, but when the first old dude failed to make the jump and fell, I thought to myself, where is the rope anchored from to leave him suspended in air? Why not just climb up the damn rope? Either there is an anchor at the top of the entrance or there is a pulley system.



So you have this exile with folks walking one by one on ice and falling through the shit from bodyweight...

Then you have like 5 dudes walking in the same vicinity on thin ice, that happens to have been doused with gasoline or some type of flammable liquid, set afire, and them niggas ain't fall in the melted ice?

i have a GTFOH Meter for summer movies and it's pretty voluminous...but it spilled over on this movie.

re: the rope...it was attached about half-way up the wall...you had to make the jump and then detach the rope from yourself to make it all the way out. the problem with that is that if you fell that far, it would easily snap your spine in half. but apparently, even with a newly-healed back, Bruce fell a couple of times with no physical repercussions. awesome.

>I don't think the plan was to BLOW UP Gotham originally, so I
>get the whole plan to destroy Bruce for turning his back on
>the League and taking his wealth as well as making him suffer
>etc.

I thought Ra's plan was to destroy Gotham and then rebuild.
The first scene was getting the guy who could make the bomb. Working with the other financier was aimed at getting Talia control of Wayne Industries so she could get the fusion generator. Bane says fairly early that he knows the thing is going to blow up in five months regardless. Blowing up Gotham was always the plan; making Batman suffer was an added bonus for Talia.

>I am engineering major, but, why didn't Bruce or anyone in the
>prison use the rope to just climb the fuck out.

The rope only seemed to go halfway up, to the point where you have to make the jump. Climbing the rope would still only get you that far (and not to the ledge you need to be on to jump, I believe.)

Seriously.

Like it delivered in terms of scale and coolness. Good superhero flick but........

The hero comes out of retirement, gets his ass kicked by a roided up villian, loses his wealth, goes away to a faraway land to get in shape and get ready for a comeback, then comes back, endures a beating but prevails at the end.

Good summer flick, but I still liked Avengers and TDK better.
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"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
-unknown

"To Each His Reach"
-George Clinton

former devotee who is exiled to an unescapable prison breaks out to exact revenge.

Bane doesn't hold a candle to Tai Lung, though. seriously.

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Skrillex.

There’s a storm coming. You and your friends better batten down the hatches cause when it hits you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us"-Selina Kyle

And I pointed out, "Uh, you realize the climax is EXACTLY the same, right? Hero grabs the bomb, flies high in the air, people think he's dead, he's not."

He didn't have much to say.

They just didn't make the shwarma joke.

and in quite a long time.
avengers can suck it.
prometheus can suck it.
give them their oscars.

1. Bane was incredible, at first the voice actually sounded funny to me but as it went on it just creepy, especially with the way he spoke.

2. The way they took out Bane was kind of lame, especially with the little joke from Catwoman afterwards. But, what makes me cool with this is that Batman did get to beat his ass down. Plus, the fact that he had to be shot with a cannon just makes his character even more monstrous.

3. It's cool how they didn't mention The Joker out of respect for Heath, but I couldn't help picture him in the courtroom scenes with the Scarecrow adding a little menace/comic relief. But to make myself shut up about it I'll just say that an agent of chaos wouldn't have too much of a place in Bane's plan. Bane would probably kill The Joker for being too wild, or admire him, whatever.

4. dvd extras with deleted scenes of how a broke ass Bruce Wayne made it back to Gotham lol

5. Having the city being taken over and the bomb driven around took it to that surreal, comic book level to me, this is the first one that didn't seem like it could almost happen in real life but it was still credible.

6. The female leads didn't annoy me for the first time, Tate and Selina were never annoying the way Katie and Maggie were in the first too, I guess because they played stronger characters.

I could ramble on but I need to sleep, i'll be cosigning people tomorrow lol

GREAT MOVIE!!!

but. . . didn't the Bat being chased by the missiles remind you of The Avengers a little?

trying to convince people who liked a movie that the movie that they liked isn't good.

and work HARD at it too. as if anything they say will change anyone else's minds at all.

now lemme just say i enjoyed it so OE can LOL and tell me that i didn't.


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Like, those who were disengaged from the flick won't ever be talked into it. So just ignore em and keep discussing the shit you liked with the folks you agree with.

I enjoyed the flick too, even if I found it mostly silly, so I'm having fun in this post watching both sides of the coin, lol.

>trying to convince people who liked a movie that the movie
>that they liked isn't good.

Well, if you post about how much you liked it, I expect
you to be able to communicate why that's the case. If you
cannot (and almost no one has been able to in this post),
I'm going to question the sincerity of your comments.

Because the only reason you post on an internet message
board forum is because you want your viewpoint to be
engaged by others. If you didn't want feedback, y'all would
keep it to yourselves.

In your magical la la land, you only want people to comment
when they agree or make you feel special.

Its a demonstration of pathetically low self esteem and
intellectual dishonesty.

>and work HARD at it too. as if anything they say will change
>anyone else's minds at all.

I've definitely changed people's minds, which is part of
the reason people are so mad at me. I actually make them
uncomfortable.

>now lemme just say i enjoyed it so OE can LOL and tell me that
>i didn't.

LOL

I bet you can't explain why.



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>and almost no one has been able to in this post

If you didn't like Tdkr but liked Cabin In The Woods, find a cliff to jump off of. I know they have nothing to do with each other. If you hated both respect.

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I haven't seen Beast Of The Southern... yet

lol

O_E's critique is actually spot on

it doesn't fit well with the rest of the series...it's a clear sore thumb

SOOOO MANY GTFOH moments

i don't understand how anyone can even suggest it's better than the last one...shit nor the first one...

the obvious plotholes...the prison pit corniness...batman gaining wolverines healing abilities...alfred getting so much praise for doing the EXACT SAME PUSSY ASS SPIEL thrice in the movie

Bane getting called cerebral without actually showing it...the army of people in the sewers who are motivated by what? they appear brainwashed initially...scared in other moments...but it's ok...

characters were so thin...and even though robin and catwoman seemed somewhat out of place...they actually made for cool extended cameos basically

the actual villian chick...he smashes (never rubs it in bane's face)

the cheap demise of bane (HUGE GTFOH)

why is he inaudible? where is the explanation for the face without the venom...i know they wanted to keep the realism of the first 2 but with the ridiculousness of this one...they may as well let "venom" out the bag

i mean...it was so beyond flawed as a movie, a comic book, movie

the best thing about it was palpable power of the initial bane vs batman scene...which u only get 2 of...the 2nd being pretty ridiculous...nigga came back after some situps, pushups, pullups and a long 3 month barefoot walk and suddenly can kick bane's ass with moderate ease...FOH

everything about this shit was thin, frail, and beyond implausible and im easy as fuck to make suspend belief...robin was the highlight

im guessing maybe a Nightwing one-off after this wouldn't hurt...

i enjoyed this enough...but it really pales beside the other 2 imo...i dont get the bane hype at all...my boy on twitter was like "so many quotables" and i straight clowned him

he had 2 audible lines i thought were dope...but he didn't seem that cerebral to me...he was a brute with a lot of help and the brains behinds the operation undermined what little credit i did give him

>the 2nd being pretty
>ridiculous...nigga came back after some situps, pushups,
>pullups and a long 3 month barefoot walk and suddenly can kick
>bane's ass with moderate ease...FOH

CMON MAN DONT YOU GET IT...HE WAS LACKING THE MOTIVATION TO KICK BANE'S ASS IN THE SEWER. THAT'S ALL.

I'm gonna start to up my pullup game...I can only do a few. Long arms.

so he was aiming at those Duracell coppertops for teeth. but i agree that the death was weak.

Im going to agree here. I am the biggest Chris Nolan apologist on the planet, but the plot holes in this movie were massive.

Batman fights Bane, gets his back broken. Bane apparently charters a secret jet to take Bruce to Burma or wherever the prison was, drops him off there - then hustles back to Gotham to make a 1pm kickoff. Batman is magically healed via palm thrust + Crossfit, then escapes the dumbest prison ever - where if one person escapes they can then throw a rope down to all the other prisoners, allowing them to rape and pillage the nearby countryside.

Then, Bruce teleports back into Gotham City, a city now cut off from the world and guarded by the military. Once inside, Bruce meets up with Lucius and has the following exchange.

Lucius: How does it fly? (in reference to "The Bat")
Bruce: Pretty good - EVEN WITHOUT THE AUTOPILOT.

Here, Bruce's character just decides to be a proactive liar and randomly just b.s. Lucius about the autopilot working..

Why you ask? Well that is because Bruce knew that he would attack Bane, that he would nearly kill Bane while gargling loudly and unintelligibly... he knew that Talia Al Ghul would stab him, he also knew while he was talking to Lucius that Commissioner Gordon would also make it to the core to jam the signal from the detonator. In addition he knew that there would be a chase through the streets with the Bat, Talia, and the bomb. He ALSO knew that once they caught up to her, she would flood the tunnel. He ALSO knew that when he finally got to that point, he would need to make a fake suicide run with the bomb.

THAT IS WHY HE PROACTIVELY LIED TO LUCIUS!! Batman does have a superpower, it is a mind melting degree of perception, able to predict even the most absurd variables to a pinpoint degree of accuracy.

Also, Robin's name isnt Robin - come on Chris. Might as well name him Bruce Batman, and Catherine Woman.

Meh.

when they awkwardly "revealed" that his real name was Robin, i think my eyes rolled completely all the way through the back of my skull

>Im going to agree here. I am the biggest Chris Nolan
>apologist on the planet, but the plot holes in this movie were
>massive.
>
>Batman fights Bane, gets his back broken. Bane apparently
>charters a secret jet to take Bruce to Burma or wherever the
>prison was, drops him off there - then hustles back to Gotham
>to make a 1pm kickoff. Batman is magically healed via palm
>thrust + Crossfit, then escapes the dumbest prison ever -
>where if one person escapes they can then throw a rope down to
>all the other prisoners, allowing them to rape and pillage the
>nearby countryside.
>
>Then, Bruce teleports back into Gotham City, a city now cut
>off from the world and guarded by the military. Once inside,
>Bruce meets up with Lucius and has the following exchange.
>
>Lucius: How does it fly? (in reference to "The Bat")
>Bruce: Pretty good - EVEN WITHOUT THE AUTOPILOT.
>
>Here, Bruce's character just decides to be a proactive liar
>and randomly just b.s. Lucius about the autopilot working..
>
>Why you ask? Well that is because Bruce knew that he would
>attack Bane, that he would nearly kill Bane while gargling
>loudly and unintelligibly... he knew that Talia Al Ghul would
>stab him, he also knew while he was talking to Lucius that
>Commissioner Gordon would also make it to the core to jam the
>signal from the detonator. In addition he knew that there
>would be a chase through the streets with the Bat, Talia, and
>the bomb. He ALSO knew that once they caught up to her, she
>would flood the tunnel. He ALSO knew that when he finally got
>to that point, he would need to make a fake suicide run with
>the bomb.
>
>THAT IS WHY HE PROACTIVELY LIED TO LUCIUS!! Batman does have a
>superpower, it is a mind melting degree of perception, able to
>predict even the most absurd variables to a pinpoint degree of
>accuracy.
>
>Also, Robin's name isnt Robin - come on Chris. Might as well
>name him Bruce Batman, and Catherine Woman.
>
>Meh.

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I lost count of how many bad one-liners there were. And how many bad monologues there were. What a corny mess this shit was...it was honestly CAMPY bad. I enjoyed two parts in the 2:45: the sewer fight and Bruce's climb out of the prison.

Lol Nolan Lol

>I lost count of how many bad one-liners there were. And how
>many bad monologues there were. What a corny mess this shit
>was...it was honestly CAMPY bad.

I mean, I was laughing at that lilty Bane voice, the Liam Neeson fade, that clunky time bomb... shit was more fun than the other two cuz of the goofiness.

It does lead to other conflict within me because of the tone of the film not embracing the camp... but as time has passed from seeing it, unlike Dark Knight, which just sort of bored me more after time, TDKR becomes more fun and silly.

Don't get me wrong, she's not shit compared to Pfeiff dog in Batman Returns, but she did okay. So any corny shit she said I gave her and Nolan a pass on.

But I almost walked out of the theater when Bane commented on that kid's lovely singing voice...wtf was that for? So many throwaway lines like that added up to the point where I couldn't take it anymore.

But it wasn't. People were making a serious movie and it was nonsensical at every turn.

And to echo a bit what MiracleRic pointed out, it's hard to accept the "It's So Dumb, It's Good" point of view when so many people aren't willing to accept that it's dumb at all. Also, the tone hurts. I could accept the ridiculousness of something like Fast Five because it reveled in it's idiocy but this film had zero self-awareness of its goofiness IMO.

I just found this one more enjoyable since it was silly and fast paced in comparison to the long dreary humorless sections of TDK. The fact that most don't acknowledge its campiness is pretty insane though.

(Truthfully, I found a good deal of the speechifying and overwrought sequences in TDK campy too-- but again, less fun, more bleak, which just made it embarrassing in spots.)

>I just found this one more enjoyable since it was silly and
>fast paced in comparison to the long dreary humorless sections
>of TDK. The fact that most don't acknowledge its campiness is
>pretty insane though.

it's pretty insane that you think it was campiness. just because you think something was silly doesn't automatically mean it was campy.

>it's pretty insane that you think it was campiness. just
>because you think something was silly doesn't automatically
>mean it was campy.

Artifice and excess, both of which are in my opinion present in multiple portions of TDK, are both elements of camp.

>Artifice and excess, both of which are in my opinion present
>in multiple portions of TDK, are both elements of camp.

Excess maybe. Artifice? No.

Either the filmmakers deliberately intended to make it campy, or they didn't. And they didn't.

>Either the filmmakers deliberately intended to make it campy,
>or they didn't. And they didn't.

Filmmakers often attempt for melodrama/artifice/excess without tiptoeing into camp and fail according to the opinion of the viewer. I also found Black Swan absurdly campy and others didn't. *shrug*

>Filmmakers often attempt for melodrama/artifice/excess without
>tiptoeing into camp and fail according to the opinion of the
>viewer. I also found Black Swan absurdly campy and others
>didn't. *shrug*

Most viewers would consider deliberate affectation and self-awareness as key elements of camp. Which is why they don't consider TDKR campy even if they agree it overreaches with the melodrama/excess etc. Same goes for Black Swan.

You seem to be using the Batman: The Series definition of camp - silly shit that people knew was hokey and embraced.

Frank is including the classic definition of camp - overwrought films with shoddy scripts and overacting. For instance, "The Room" wasn't intended to be a comic classic but that's what has become because it's so bad.

Susan Sontag wrote a piece about it: http://www9.georgetown.edu/faculty/irvinem/theory/Sontag-NotesOnCamp-1964.html

18. One must distinguish between naïve and deliberate Camp. Pure Camp is always naive. Camp which knows itself to be Camp ("camping") is usually less satisfying.

19. The pure examples of Camp are unintentional; they are dead serious. The Art Nouveau craftsman who makes a lamp with a snake coiled around it is not kidding, nor is he trying to be charming. He is saying, in all earnestness: Voilà! the Orient! Genuine Camp -- for instance, the numbers devised for the Warner Brothers musicals of the early thirties (42nd Street; The Golddiggers of 1933; ... of 1935; ... of 1937; etc.) by Busby Berkeley -- does not mean to be funny. Camping -- say, the plays of Noel Coward -- does. It seems unlikely that much of the traditional opera repertoire could be such satisfying Camp if the melodramatic absurdities of most opera plots had not been taken seriously by their composers. One doesn't need to know the artist's private intentions. The work tells all. (Compare a typical 19th century opera with Samuel Barber's Vanessa, a piece of manufactured, calculated Camp, and the difference is clear.)
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The line between the two is probably "Catwoman". People had to know that some of the shit was silly but I don't think anyone realized what a steaming pile of shit and how awful scenes like the basketball game would be.

Bane and his looming terror was supposed to be a big draw here, but he was drawn so cartoony that I couldn't take him seriously. But it's a comic book movie so that's ok, right? But wait, Nolan is supposed to transcend comic book movies with grit and realness. Ugh...

Surprised that some were moved by Alfred's speech and tearing. It was so blatantly manipulative (all those strings), that I almost started laughing. There were a number of speeches throughout the movie that were equally eye rolling. Award nomination for Caine? On the low, that might be the silliest thing mentioned in this thread.

Agree with OE on the usage of the League. So uninteresting.

Too much vehicle action for me. Tumblers and bikes and flying things. Never really felt anyone was in danger.

That Robin reveal at the end was so hammy, I'm surprised the woman didn't wink at the camera.

I just found myself not caring about anyone, or anything in this movie.

>I just found myself not caring about anyone, or anything in
>this movie.
>


i couldn't care less if anyone in this movie died or lived. the shot of Matthew Modine lying dead in the street...was that supposed to actually evoke some emotion?

we've never cared about any of Bruce's women in the past two movies...his constant whining about losing ol' Mung Faced Gyllenhal...I DON'T CARE! ©Tommy Lee Jones

Bruce Wayne is a boring dude...the success of a Batman movie is 100% dependent on the villain. that's why Dark Knight is so good. when you can't see the villain's face or even understand a decent portion of his dialogue, there's gonna be problems.

i was so checked out of this movie, i was literally hoping the bomb would level the city...at least that would be an interesting plot choice.

>Never really felt anyone was in danger.

I never felt any real intensity at any point during the movie


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>Surprised that some were moved by Alfred's speech and tearing.
>It was so blatantly manipulative (all those strings), that I
>almost started laughing. There were a number of speeches
>throughout the movie that were equally eye rolling. Award
>nomination for Caine? On the low, that might be the silliest
>thing mentioned in this thread.

performance was so fucking ham. blubbering in front of the graves had me rolling.

more or less

Do you think he made scrambled eggs for everyone down in the sewers, or just swing by Mickey D's before robbing the NYSE? Did he shove it up his ass? Is there a little straw hole in his mask to slip a protein shake in?

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"MMMMEHHHUAHHJGHHAHHGA" = Organic Apple Sauce from the Gotham
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Or is it just from a fuck-ton of pushups and pullups? (but not as many as Batman clearly).

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He had to put that in to piss people off right??

it simply got out of hand

he literally had less than 2 minutes to get a nuclear bomb miles away from a massive city. you'd think it would take a minute just to get in the batplane(or whatever it's called) and figure out how you're gonna go about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pdZI8HK0UY&feature=related

I'm only half-kidding. At least you knew that motherfucker wasn't going to comment on singing voices.

but omg the fucking flashbacks and sermons never ended

>but omg the fucking flashbacks and sermons never ended

I like the so called sermons. They're dramatic to me even though folks complain about them being failed filmed exposition handicaps.


There’s a storm coming. You and your friends better batten down the hatches cause when it hits you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us"-Selina Kyle

ya'll can argue about it all you want, i just know that i had a good time and so did my other friends. yeah, i found some things stupid too, but i don't care in the end because it was a great time overall.

everyone else can keep crying about a few one liners... I sat down watched and enjoyed

no snark, serious question...

The confusing thing to me about a lot of the hate (campiness, plot holes) is every comic book movie I have ever seen has all that corniness and ridiculous plot lines... A movie like X-Men First Class gets praised and people overlook the corniness and super plot holes, because, well the other X-Men movies were boring as fuck...

I liked X-Men First Class a lot but this movie is way better.. So what comic book movies are so much better then Dark Knight Rises?

Iron Man? Okay, it's a fun movie, nothing else, and the second one sucked

Spider Man trilogy? Entertaining but corny as hell

Those films you named
We're comic book movies through and through


Nolan Stans/TDK trilogy stans lifted this above
Off the strength it was allegedly "more" than a comic book movie
That it in fact was this cerebral masterpiece of dark realism
Above all that popcorn crap like Xmen and spiderman etc.

now some people are seeing how really flawed and campy this shit is
And talk about it

But like clockwork

Now:

"it's just a comic book movie"
"wow @ the hate"
Etc.

Mann gone


Oh and:

The avengers
Iron man
X2
Spiderman 2
First class
Blade I
Blade II

Were all much better

Random factual: If Spike Lee or even m knight shamalyan made this fucking movie they would have gotten deep fried

Nolan stans fault? I guess... I'd call it high expectations in general...

First Class was good but at it's best it equals this movie maybe, it just had lower expectations compared to the insanely high expectations of this movie...

Ironman
Avengers
X2
First Class
Batman (Mike Keaton Original)
Spiderman 2
KICK ASS


And to be honest, I enjoyed this year's Spiderman reboot more than I did DKR.. I know that won't be a consensus or even marginally agreed upon opinion, but for my money - Ill take Spidey.

It was like a Roger Moore-era Bond movie, except it took itself seriously and thought it was making social commentary. Kudos to Nolan for taking a more serious route and swinging for the fences but he completely botched the execution of it on this one.

Avengers had stupid plot holes but the tone allowed for more forgiveness of issues. That being said, if you didn't like the tone or find it fun, I'll readily admit it was a dumb movie. That's where TDKR fans are different. They're calling it near perfect, Oscar worthy, one of the best action movies ever.

Spider-man had some corny bits but Raimi knew that and the tone allowed for it. He had campy moments and played them as campy. Nolan didn't seem to get the camp value and also placed camp in some terrible places, like throwing in a stupid line after the underwhelming death of the main villain of the movie.

If someone gave fans that script and said it was fan fiction, it would have gotten torn apart. And rightfully so.

As for a list of movies better than TDKR?

Superman
Superman II
Blade
Blade II
Spider-man
Spider-man II
Avengers
Iron Man
Chronicle
Unbreakable
The Incredibles
Hellboy
Hellboy II
X-Men
X2
X-Men: The First Class (disappointing but better still)
Batman (the Burton version)
Two films I liked more than others: Constantine and Sky High
Watchmen
Kick-Ass
Probelematic but better: V for Vendetta, Hancock, Captain America, Thor

(And no, none of those films are flawless. Nobody is saying they were.)

Honestly, I'd put it on par with Iron Man 2. I like the character but the execution was terrible.

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************************

I was thinking, "Way to keep up on current events, jackass."

He was able to run a full background check on Selina Kyle in 60 seconds, but he knows NOTHING of the background of someone that is on the board at Wayne Enterprises and he gives full control of the company to? He sees the scar on her back after smashing and even tells her that he knows nothing about her when saying he assumed she was from a rich family?

And why during the twist at the end when he finds out who she is does she spend five minutes explaining that twist to him and her background? I hate when films do this, it's lazy writing to have the villain give a speech about their plot to the main character (but REALLY just explaining it for the audience.)

Bane's death was cheap. He was a GREAT character up until that point, he deserved a better end.

I knew JGL was Robin as soon as he hit the screen.

Catwoman was actually one of the best things about the movie. Probably because they didn't try to explain a back story.

I guess that all my issues with the film can be summed up in this - the inconsistent level of plot depth. You have certain aspects of the film that make you think - there is foreshadowing and clues to certain twists. But then there are other aspects that require you to turn your brain off because of the plot holes. A film needs to be true to the rules of it's universe...if it has a consistent suspension of disbelief then small plot holes aren't going to matter. But if you set up a level of realism and depth to the plot in some parts, but then completely gloss over plot issues in other parts, those plot holes are gonna stick out like a sore thumb.

when he found out he was going broke Fox told him Tate was still trying to do their energy project so I guess that's what suckered him in, her pretending to be care about the world and Wayne Enterprise.

plus her little mini speeches she kept giving him, he was brainwashed.

but I'm co-signing every post about Banes death, that was too cheap for a character that nearly demolished a whole city.

She could have been Rachel Dawes's sister and out for vengeance and it would have meant the same. Who she was didn't matter. That she was about to blow up a nuke and destroy Gotham was what was important.

As for why Wayne trusted her? It was because that's what the movie needed. It doesn't make sense. It's like asking why, if Bain's goal was just to upload a program that could fake trades into the stock exchange, would be shoot his way in and let everyone see that he was uploading something. It's because the movie needed some action scenes and a chase.

>I guess that all my issues with the film can be summed up in
>this - the inconsistent level of plot depth. You have certain
>aspects of the film that make you think - there is
>foreshadowing and clues to certain twists. But then there are
>other aspects that require you to turn your brain off because
>of the plot holes. A film needs to be true to the rules of
>it's universe...if it has a consistent suspension of disbelief
>then small plot holes aren't going to matter. But if you set
>up a level of realism and depth to the plot in some parts, but
>then completely gloss over plot issues in other parts, those
>plot holes are gonna stick out like a sore thumb.

The stakes have never been higher than in TDKR. In the film for Gotham and in reality. After the cultural big-bang of The Dark Knight, Nolan and company have a lot to live up to. Not to mention it being the closer and tird of the trilogy. We all know how the third in a series turns out. Anyone remember Godfather III, enjoyed Spidey 3, X-Men, etc? And no Joker-Ledger. That could be a good thing as the Nolan series has been the who, what, where, and why of Wayne and Batman more-so than other Batman's of the past. But alas, The Joker was so intense, such an incredible force/performance, the only thing that Nolan could do was act as if he wasn't there and trade the Joker for The Brutality and nihilism of The Dark Knight Rises. And that's what the brutality in the movie feels like: it's own character.


Gordon is in the hospital, Gotham is reduced to anarchy and rubble, Batman/Wayne is exiled to wither away in a hole after the brink of death, and we are left with wondering how the hell is this all going to work out. The last time we saw Bats, he was on the run after taking the fall for the tragedies that Dent and company created. In this flick we get to see him hunted down as a fugitive murderer and also heralded as savior.


TDKR has an emotional pull here just as good as having the love of Wayne's life get blown to smithereens. The pull here is the relationship or non relationship with Wayne and Alfred, but also the other relationships with a new Cat, a very broken Gotham, and well, with us. There's a Empire Strikes Back feel to some of the story with seeing friends (his city) in danger while he has to complete his training and or escape and recover from a brutal beating. There is so much going on yet the movie is much tighter than the previous, that you don't feel its almost three hour length. Its feels like you're on a runaway train.


Bane's words are telling and each sentence has some philisophical meaning in its presentation. Where the Joker had extreme psychopathology to shake you up, Bane has brutality that you see and feel. Especially in the battle scenes with the dark knight. Not since Roddy Piper duked it out with David Keith in They Live have you actually felt the pain and despair of a fight between hero and villain.Where The Joker wanted to turn Gotham to rubble metaphorically, Bane actually does it. All the while taking the heart (and life) out of Wayne and at the same time. Does art imitate life or does life imitate art regarding the themes Nolan uses regarding The Dark Knights post 9/11 terror sentiments regarding privacy acts etc and The Dark Knight Rises Occupy Wall Street movement give the wealth to the people sentiments? Nolan lets us see what happens with both in his art.


Ann Hathaway really shines as the criminally good Catwoman/Selina. Her character is so close to antisocial personality that her scene where she feigns a damsel in distress despair cream to escape a close call situation that is disturbing and long lasting for some reason. It really shows her prowess as the woman who you want to love but can never trust. She really takes the role to a "true" level and makes Nolans Batman universe seem realistic. When she warns of a storm coming that is going ot effect the rich and powerful as well as her giving Batman an out be letting him off the hook by reminding him that he has given Gotham everything is the emotional pull that's as emotional as any of the relationships in all flicks. Plus, he gives Batman a taste of his own medicine.."So that's what it feels like"


The movie is so bleak, so dark that when When Batman appears and tells the Gordon to "Light it up" you want to cheer.

Several scenes you want to cheer because your senses have been pummeled as much as Batman and Gotham. As Ive stated there's so much going on, the train is off the track, yet there is time for Gordon's new protege and Batman's future one, Morgan Freeman's getting Batman back in the game, and Wayne losing EVERYTHING and as Catwoman states, giving everything. It took all of this..chaos..to replace the Joker but there was no other choice. It works because there's is no time to think about him. You are more focused on Gotham and Batman/Wayne's dilemma...to rise..rise..rise. And when they do, it's glorious...kick ass..painful..and ultimately emotional. If only life could imitate art.

you brought all of that in the door with you.

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

..even though you say you didn't like the movie and obviously disagree with the review sentiments, how is the review overall?


There’s a storm coming. You and your friends better batten down the hatches cause when it hits you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us"-Selina Kyle

It's a reaction more than a review*. I have to agree with RJ that a lot of the stuff comes from stuff you've brought to the film and not that the film will elicit from any ordinary viewer.
I think if so much is going to be based on your personal reaction, I'd rather read more of you in it. It's a very subjective reading IMO so I'd embrace that element and expand on that.

You also make the same passing glance at the socio-economic issues that Nolan does. I'd have rather read a deeper reading of that because, for me, I'd say this feels like an anti-Occupy/wikileaks movie although, I hesitate to say Occupy because the film seems to relate far more to the UK than the US, with the kids in the sewers relating more to the council housing kids who've been lost by the system and there's a far more antagonistic relationship between the rich and the very poor. (I expected Bane to rock out to Plan B at some point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8GvLKTsTuI )

All that being said, your review is on par with most things I've read in EW, films magazines, or most other film blogs (*and most critics publish reactions rather than objective films reviews nowadays) so on a purely objective level, it was a job well done.

>It's a reaction more than a review*. I have to agree with RJ
>that a lot of the stuff comes from stuff you've brought to the
>film and not that the film will elicit from any ordinary
>viewer.
>I think if so much is going to be based on your personal
>reaction, I'd rather read more of you in it. It's a very
>subjective reading IMO so I'd embrace that element and expand
>on that.
>
>You also make the same passing glance at the socio-economic
>issues that Nolan does. I'd have rather read a deeper reading
>of that because, for me, I'd say this feels like an
>anti-Occupy/wikileaks movie although, I hesitate to say Occupy
>because the film seems to relate far more to the UK than the
>US, with the kids in the sewers relating more to the council
>housing kids who've been lost by the system and there's a far
>more antagonistic relationship between the rich and the very
>poor. (I expected Bane to rock out to Plan B at some point
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8GvLKTsTuI )
>
>All that being said, your review is on par with most things
>I've read in EW, films magazines, or most other film blogs
>(*and most critics publish reactions rather than objective
>films reviews nowadays) so on a purely objective level, it was
>a job well done.

Thanks for your time and thoughts. I expected you to be more scathing.


There’s a storm coming. You and your friends better batten down the hatches cause when it hits you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us"-Selina Kyle

>tird of the trilogy.

Where else can you find someone, who for the better part of 3 years, called people names for saying JaMarcus Russell sucks and is now spending a ridiculous amount of time insulting others over a movie he supposedly hates... all while showing zero shame and acting like he has credibility intact.

Impressive
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>Where else can you find someone, who for the better part of 3
>years, called people names for saying JaMarcus Russell sucks
>and is now spending a ridiculous amount of time insulting
>others over a movie he supposedly hates... all while showing
>zero shame and acting like he has credibility intact.
>
>Impressive

OKP has basically become troll-ville...for a while now. Half these fools aren't telling their truths either.


There’s a storm coming. You and your friends better batten down the hatches cause when it hits you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us"-Selina Kyle

>Where else can you find someone, who for the better part of 3
>years, called people names for saying JaMarcus Russell sucks

No, I called you a stinky old pro for calling JaMarcus
Russell DUMB, which was racist and inaccurate. His failure
in the NFL had nothinb to do with his football IQ, which was
above average according to everyone who ever coached him
(Jimbo Fisher said he had perfect command of a pro style
offense and went to the line of scrimmage with 2 or 3
plays every snap).

His failure in the NFL had to do with the fact that he was
too rich, too young and never had the work ethic of young
QBs because the game came far too easy to him. Its the
classic pitfall of being a natural. He wasn't a gym
rat nor was he ever particularly competitive.

>and is now spending a ridiculous amount of time insulting
>others over a movie he supposedly hates... all while showing
>zero shame and acting like he has credibility intact.
>
>Impressive

Ain't it? I'm pretty good at this, man. Comes naturally.



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Taking bits and pieces of a conversation and when that's not enough flat out lie

My issue with JR was his laziness from jump... or work ethic if you will. Same shit you just said lol It wasn't until his purple drank incident that I said the dude was dumb... and that was in the context of a guy who already had enough problems fucking around and doing some dumb shit like that. That has nothing to do with smarts on the football field and you know it.

So you're not only a troll & idiot but also a liar
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1. OE writes a rather good explanation of the films faults and then says: "IN FUCKING FRANCE". Except that he's in Florence man. On the Arno. Major plot point bro.

2. OE can't even bother to learn Gordon-Levitt's and Gary Oldman's names. The fuck is wrong with you man? One of the best actors of his generation (see Brick now) and Oldman has BEEN killing it. C'mon.

Interesting.

it's laughable to pretend this or any other film in the series is high art as Nolan-fanatics.

I think this was cool of him, he really didn't have to do that.

Christian Bale Visits Colorado Shooting Victims
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/07/24/christian-bale-visits-colorado-shooting-victims/

the script is bad. among the many ways you can tell: the characters need to explain everything with dialogue, rather than, you know, the director and the story actually showing what is happening.

the acting is not good. don't blame hathaway. they're all bad.

the dialogue is terrible.

the story is bad. a nuclear bomb? occupy wall street gone bad? alfred crying?

i mean, one kernel for the eye candy and one kernel because i didn't see the villain swerve coming, but, uh, if you think this movie is good, there's no hope for you.

U mean the new identity program?

The new identity program that would be real useful for a thief?

The program that one give u a new identity which as a thief u would really want? That is the program u want???

that was the worst bit of awkward exposition i've heard in awhile.

and, if i remember correctly, it was completely unnecessary...wasn't the software already properly explained?

It was basically the get a new identity program program

nah

is the whole "my body is ruined" thing was completely unnecessary. Bats didn't run away at the end of Dark Knight because of tennis elbow...he was taking the fall for Harvey Dent.

so why the fuck even raise the issue of his broken body if you solve it with a lazy piece of deus ex machina? so fucking stupid.

>is the whole "my body is ruined" thing was completely
>unnecessary. Bats didn't run away at the end of Dark Knight
>because of tennis elbow...he was taking the fall for Harvey
>Dent.
>
>so why the fuck even raise the issue of his broken body if you
>solve it with a lazy piece of deus ex machina? so fucking
>stupid.

Wrong. It was to show how he could lose so easily to Bane or how bane could get the drop on him enough to send him packing.

I want yall to log off for a few days.


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I really didn't care.

Why tease a movie they aren't going to make? I thought JGL was good in the part, but I felt the character to be unnecessary.

Think about it: what did he add to the plot?

>I really didn't care.
>
>Why tease a movie they aren't going to make? I thought JGL
>was good in the part, but I felt the character to be
>unnecessary.
>
>Think about it: what did he add to the plot?


There’s a storm coming. You and your friends better batten down the hatches cause when it hits you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us"-Selina Kyle

it's in keeping with the theme that goes back to Begins...Batman is a symbol, not a man. So even though Bruce is no longer Batman, the symbol lives on.

that is to say "one day we won't need a batman,"
is an impossibility?

And we need to clarify here:
Am I to believe that Robin isn't becoming Robin, he is becoming Batman? Cause they put a statue up for Batman - wouldn't it be strange for somebody else to show up calling himself the Batman? Do you, Robin.
I honestly don't believe they were teasing another movie and that is part of the problem. It isn't coming, so why throw Robin in there? As OE pointed out above, Batman was GOING to come back, he didn't need the push from Robin. It was nice to see Bruce relating to other orphans but I neither needed nor wanted Robin to be that public face.

In TDK, the Chinese subplot is necessary for the plot in its way as well, but I am still bored by how much screen time that filler is given. At least Zac Snyder had the common decency to cut the animated sections from Watchmen.

I was entertained by this movie,
but I prefer to look back at a film and remember the things I loved about it rather than the things that irked me.

can someone at least tell me this...
aside from the plot (which i don't care about) are the ACTION SEQUENCES any good at least??

the ONLY reason i care about this movie is due to seeing the 7-minute epilogue before MI3 in the IMAX. i didn't like DK so i really didn't care about DKR UNTIL i saw that airplane sequence in IMAX. that shit COMPLETELY sold me.

so are there OTHER scenes to look forward to other than the airplane sequence in the beginning? is there further eye candy to get hype about??

thanks.

>the ONLY reason i care about this movie is due to seeing the
>7-minute epilogue before MI3 in the IMAX. i didn't like DK so
>i really didn't care about DKR UNTIL i saw that airplane
>sequence in IMAX. that shit COMPLETELY sold me.

Its all downhill after that

They sorta fucked up showing that scene

>so are there OTHER scenes to look forward to other than the
>airplane sequence in the beginning? is there further eye candy
>to get hype about??

No, its a bunch of mindless fights and chases

Some people love the Bane/Batman fight but it was
about 1/8 as good as the Achilles/Hector battle




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Yeah, people are acting like this was some sort of masterpiece.

The fight scenes are very underwhelming. It one of the best hustles out there. Generating half a billion and its the straight hype machine working.

And it was like the first scene

Rest of the chases/fights
Were all underwhelming

I mean they weren't terrible
But def underwhelming

and they ruined that in the trailer

then the whole vibe when the kid was singing would have been different. The trailer took ALL the suspense out of that scene.

..don't have time to read all the posts up in here, but overall I liked the movie, that said, the ending is corny...Batman survives a nuclear blast that has a six mile blast radius? Come on yall...Corny...

you punch me, i punch you, block, counter, etc.

movie was garbage.

They were not very impressive at all




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He was mumbling cats to death up in here

shoulda just done that to Batman


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lol

Here's a little hint:

If you can't hear the main villain's voice, and it
doesn't affect the movie, the movie sucks.



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I agree with the majority of your critiques, but I gotta say you're overdoing this Bane's voice thing. I only recall about twice that I couldn't hear, the movie was being played so damn loud you had no choice but to hear.

Some definite faults and c'mon moments but imo the atmosphere, performances, score, themes, and developed connections make it a great movie and finale to a series that has thoroughly engaged me for the past 7 years and one I will enjoy for years to come.

More thoughts later...gotta sleep.

that's really all there is that's indisputable.

he's basically howard sterning these motherfuckers. his fans check for him, AND his haters do too.

although, I don't know how many heads in here are actual Nolan fans. After all, it was a movie about BATMAN, a character who I'd go to see regardless of any director (with the exception Joel Schumacher) and many others would to I imagine.

bwahahahahahhhaha

that's the sign of retreat

o obviously shit shit gonna make bank

duh

good for Nolan, seems like a nice guy

plus, there's way more dumb people than smart
people, which is it took most of y'all 4 sittings
to get through Malcom X

I mean, you got niggas in here talking about this
trilogy > Godfather

bwahahahahhaahhaahahha

Just shows how our IQ and attention span as a society
is dropping

Hell, even the Transformers movies made bank, those
are among the worst movies ever made



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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>
>
>bwahahahahahhhaha
>
>that's the sign of retreat
>
>o obviously shit shit gonna make bank
>
>duh
>
>good for Nolan, seems like a nice guy
>
>plus, there's way more dumb people than smart
>people, which is it took most of y'all 4 sittings
>to get through Malcom X
>
>I mean, you got niggas in here talking about this
>trilogy > Godfather
>
>bwahahahahhaahhaahahha
>
>Just shows how our IQ and attention span as a society
>is dropping
>
>Hell, even the Transformers movies made bank, those
>are among the worst movies ever made
>
i was just making a general point about how good or bad, people talking...


cause all bullshit aside, I can EASILY defend Dark Knight to the against anyone, without taking shots at other movies (unless they somehow put them up to make their point).

this one, i was seriously fucking heated to be sitting up IN the damn screen. i don't know if you saw it on a regular, liemax, or IMAX but it fucks with your depth perception and perspective to look at a movie on a six story building RIGHT in front of you. i mean 15 minutes in i was still sulking. it definitely affected my viewing experience.

in totality, i'm not sure exactly how i felt about this flick. i insulated myself from trailers/spoilers that were getting too close to release date. i'll check back in with my assessment after my second screening. preliminarily, I'm putting Dark Knight on top of the three, but that's because it held up so well after multiple viewings. i'll let you know tho.

You can't bring up the nonsensical 500 posts argument, add that you don't even know what you think of the film, and then act like it's someone else's blame for the lack of discussion in this post. I'll give you that OE can't complain too much either about the level of discourse since he posted so many simply "LOL" posts but neither side has been exchanging ideas in this post.

If you want an authentic discourse respond to OE's post or one of his many posts where he explains his problems with the films.

>You can't bring up the nonsensical 500 posts argument,
why is that nonsensical? any way you slice it, it evokes strong feelings from people. did you miss THAT point?

>add
>that you don't even know what you think of the film, and then
>act like it's someone else's blame for the lack of discussion
>in this post.
who said i was blaming anyone? notice i've said almost nothing about the movie itself in my previous posts.

>I'll give you that OE can't complain too much
>either about the level of discourse since he posted so many
>simply "LOL" posts but neither side has been exchanging ideas
>in this post.
yet and still they've gone halfway to diamond "not exchanging anything" and that's funny to me. sorry you were so offended by me pointing that out

>If you want an authentic discourse respond to OE's post or one
>of his many posts where he explains his problems with the
>films.
perhaps the part where i said I'LL CHECK IN AFTER MY SECOND SCREENING escaped you.

>who said i was blaming anyone? notice i've said almost nothing
>about the movie itself in my previous posts.

Exactly. You're asking OE to partake in authentic discourse (which, as he pointed out, he has thrown out there) yet have nothing to add yourself. You said it brings out the haters but everyone who didn't like the film has basically spelled out their points and nobody has done much of anything to dispute them.

>yet and still they've gone halfway to diamond "not exchanging
>anything" and that's funny to me. sorry you were so offended
>by me pointing that out

That's how this board works. The 21 Jump Street post was going crazy off the trailer alone. There had to be a new post made. That doesn't mean it was a great trailer. The Killing season 1 finale wasn't great because it had people talking.

>perhaps the part where i said I'LL CHECK IN AFTER MY SECOND
>SCREENING escaped you.

It didn't. The fact that you were calling for people to partake in something that you can't even after you've watched the film once screams hypocritical to me. Being farther away from the screen won't make the story any less nonsensical.

Watch the film again and partake in actual discourse. Don't sit back and tell other people to do so when you can't add anything to the discussion.

My FIRST post #137 I posted an ACTUAL REVIEW where
I was NICE

Don't nobody care to address that, though

Look...cats had MENTIONED MY NAME ALREADY BEFORE
I EVEN MADE A SINGLE POST


ALREADY UPSET


So people had ALREADY made the DECISION that they
weren't going to engage me


People are NOT crook, sons in this post

Mostly SHOOK ONES

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1) you'll love any movie with batman in it, or

2) you've decided chris nolan is your isiah thomas.

and that's cool. do you. you're allowed to like whatever you want to like.

but if we're talking about any kind of fixed ideal of a good movie, tdkr does not hit it.

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>
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I can see how you'd think The Dark Knight Rises made a lick of sense.

you're starting to show signs of cracking under the pressure.

>you're starting to show signs of cracking under the
>pressure.

If you like a tightly plotted movie there's plenty to annoy there.

I wonder what the movie would've been like had Ledger lived.

Would the bomb have had more like a 9 month decay period, and perhaps room left for the idea that Talia had a baby during the time Bruce was gone?

Anyway, hopefully we can move on to something else in the Batman movie world. I want a Batman with more commitment to Gotham, a variety of villains so we don't have to go back to the League of Shadows (and please don't kill them at the end of each movie, thanks) every second movie, and enough foresight to protect or warn Wayne Enterprises (and the gadgets that would make it pretty fucking clear Bruce Wayne is Batman) from a tunneling attack from below.

When the technicians are talking to Lucius Fox about Bruce Wayne fixing the autopilot at the end, they say he did it months ago, meaning that this secondary Bat (the grey one, not the black one Batman used and destroyed in the nuclear explosion) was in the Applied Sciences facility at the time when Bane broke in and stole all their equipment, Tumblers, etc. So why didn't they take the grey Bat as well? Not only would it be their most powerful weapon, but they'd be able to fight Batman in the air, as well as transport the bomb in it, as opposed to on the ground, making it much more difficult for the cops and Batman to secure.

Also, someone on another discussion board brought up the fact that the ending shows Bruce Wayne confirming he's still alive to all four friends, not just Alfred. Sure, Alfred actually bumps into him at the restaurant, but Gordon sees the Bat signal on the rooftop fixed by someone other than him, then looks over his shoulder. Fox realizes that Bruce is still alive because of the whole autopilot thing. Finally, Blake gets a note from Bruce, with the directions to the Batcave.

>When the technicians are talking to Lucius Fox about Bruce
>Wayne fixing the autopilot at the end, they say he did it
>months ago, meaning that this secondary Bat (the grey one, not
>the black one Batman used and destroyed in the nuclear
>explosion) was in the Applied Sciences facility at the time
>when Bane broke in and stole all their equipment, Tumblers,
>etc. So why didn't they take the grey Bat as well? Not only
>would it be their most powerful weapon, but they'd be able to
>fight Batman in the air, as well as transport the bomb in it,
>as opposed to on the ground, making it much more difficult for
>the cops and Batman to secure.

maybe they didn't have pilots, or was it supposed to be the recovered wreckage?

>Also, someone on another discussion board brought up the fact
>that the ending shows Bruce Wayne confirming he's still alive
>to all four friends, not just Alfred. Sure, Alfred actually
>bumps into him at the restaurant, but Gordon sees the Bat
>signal on the rooftop fixed by someone other than him, then
>looks over his shoulder. Fox realizes that Bruce is still
>alive because of the whole autopilot thing. Finally, Blake
>gets a note from Bruce, with the directions to the Batcave.

wasn't this obvious though?

>maybe they didn't have pilots, or was it supposed to be the
>recovered wreckage?

well, considering that some of these guys are experienced world class villains who at least know how to drive tumblers, i'd be surprised if they didn't have ONE pilot, but ok i guess.

>wasn't this obvious though?

Yeah, you're right, i guess i was a bit slow on that haha. I mean, for alfred and fox, i obviously knew immediately, but i didn't register right away that blake and gordon knew he was still alive. for some reason i thought someone else fixed the signal/gave blake the note, don't ask why. i think i just happened to focus more on blake taking the helm as the new batman, instead of thinking about whether he realized bruce wasn't dead

And who flew Bane and an incapacitated Batman to wherever that prison was?

They had pilots.

honestly, i don't give a shit either way. i enjoyed the movie. me and my friends had a great time.

>And who flew Bane and an incapacitated Batman to wherever
>that prison was?
>
>They had pilots.

they're just prototypes, so the second one may have not been fully operational. Bruce fixing the autopilot via a software patch could be easily downloaded onto the second one, but doesn't mean the entire aircraft was fully operational.

Bane has dude in a body bag and connects them through an IV...wtf was that?

>Bane has dude in a body bag and connects them through an
>IV...wtf was that?

They were trying to make it so he was the scientist via blood type etc. who died in in the plane crash.

I kind of gave that one a pass but putting a little bit of blood into the guy doesn't seem like its going to matter since he's about to die in a plane crash and they'll probably have to use dental records or DNA. Plus, the guy's blood is going to be all over the plane. Won't they notice that an unknown person's blood is all over the place?

HATED. No, I didn't hate it. I just didn't really give a shit about any of it.

you know what i delted everything else I wrote. It's not worth it.

Great work by JGL and AH and even Christian Bale and Michael Caine. Everything else about the movie is utterly forgettable.

I can't believe this is from the same creative team that made TDK

(I took some friends who saw it a week before.)

I liked it better than BB and TDK but it was still a silly movie.

For the record, I understood about 95% of Bane's dialog. My friends , who had seen it a week ago and complained that they couldn't understand about 40% of Bane's dialog then, said that they also understood about 95% of the dialog. I think this may be a technical issue is some theathres.

They said they couldn't understand about 50% of what Alfred was saying at their first showing because of the music that played behind him and that this showing corrected that issue.

Some questions:
They blow the bridges in New York but no one gets on a boat/ferry and leaves?

Why did the knife in Batman's side stop him cold from fighting against a petite girl while she was talking at him, but then he's okay to fly out the Bat about 30 seconds later?

Where was the government response? I am absolutely sure they'd have set off a small nuclear explosion to take out the bomb, or had some kind of response.

Why didn't the decoy trucks / convoy ever notice that a group of cops walking around with a device that looked like the ectoplasm detector from ghostbusters?

Why didn't the driver of the truck with the bomb ever look out of his mirrors and notice that Gary Oldman was in the back?

Why did they block the tunnels with a single layer of cars? Maybe 8 layers would have been a better deterrent/barrier?

Why didn't


Hated this:
Bane's Winnie-the-Pooh / Darth Vader voice.
The laughably bad fight scenes between Bane and Batman. I felt no danger at all. (And after bane punches Batman in the mouth 6 times - should Batman's teeth be damaged in some way?)
The recovery from a very bad back in 4-14 weeks.
The improved broad jump because of "really wanting to live." (Yes, the rope could have weighed too much - but how did a kid 3 feet shorter than batman make the jump?)
The horrible exposition.
The over the top music.
The fact that 80% of the dialog sounded/looked looped. (IF large format IMAX can't be used for talkies then don't use it.)


The Good:
JGL.
Anne Hathaway.

It was worth the 6 dollars I paid to see it.

that was the moment i just assumed Nolan was punking us.

24 hours until the city is wiped off the planet and Batman takes a break to express himself with a gasoline mural.

like...yo. There's 10 fucking hours until hiroshima pt. 3 goes off, and you're doing some gasoline grafitti shit? lol. fail.

Wow. Didn't expect a drop like that.

and it didn't have a tragedy connected to it.

it still took in a good chunk of change, but the shooting definitely had at least a small effect on the numbers. plus, while obviously a tragedy, this movie didn't have the buzz that heath's death did combined with the buzz around heath's performance.

plus there was also the olympic's opening ceremonies which may have kept some people at home.

i think this movie will continue to bring in the money for a while though. will be interesting to see the final tally.

critical eye of the film should affect BO numbers like that.

I think that nobody wants to return to watch a 3 hour movie has something to do with it though.

There was a badge of honor in seeing the Avengers multiple times, because it was much shorter and was actually fucking fun and not grim as shit.

Although I do think that the Olympics definitely hurt.

Nowadays 50% drop is the norm. Even Avengers dropped 50% in week 2.

most sites i've checked love the film, OKP being an exception. where else is it getting a lot of so-so word of mouth (honest question)?

It's not critics or blogs.

Most people I know found it disappointing. I don't know anyone who LOVED it.

i don't know anyone who didn't like/love it, that's why i asked.

easily my favorite movie this year. as much as i liked Avengers, DKR beats it out imo. can't wait for both movies to come out on dvd.


Bane's voice does go in and out, some things you can hear clearly, others you can't. one person said he sounded like Sean Connery, yes he did, in the very first scene and he never sounded like that again. which makes me think that Hardy honed the voice more and more, maybe they should have gone and redubbed certain scenes.

Hathaway was excellent in the role and i felt she captured the Catwoman character from more recent series then the Batman Returns Elseworld Catwoman character by Pffeifer.

Bale's voice was better presented here then in TDK, I always felt he got it right in BB and they did something digitally in TDK to make it gruffer which turned out not so great.

definitely can see elements of No Mans Land and Knightfall at work here, the first fight scene with Bane was just brutal and depicted much better then in Knightfall. Knightfall Batman just had no energy and was dealt with quickly, TDKR you felt Batman putting every ounce of his being behind every punch.

it's a masterpiece of story telling, the finale i loved, and i liked how it was all neatly tied up to make the "perfect" trilogy IMO.

i do have my nitpicks, it's overly long and i felt it dragged a little in the first half. where as Batman Begins flowed and kept you entertained and interested in the movie until Batman finally makes an appearance, TDKR failed to do the same. There is alot of story to tell here but it could have used a little trimming and still had the same effect.

however, they make up for that with the last half hour or so which is highly enjoyable.

i have never liked the redesign cowl they implemented in TDK, i always prefered the one from BB. this one always made Bales face squashed.

there is not one bad acting moment in here whatsoever, everyone has their story, they all do their part extremely well and come to a satisfying end.

the Avengers was a fun, comic book, action, popcorn flick with humor thrown in, don't go into TDKR expecting the same experience. this is a lovingly shot, well executed, well written, well directed, DARK movie with alot to take in and think about.

James Gordon talked of escalation and thats what happened from BB > TDK > TDKR.

i doubt there will ever be three films made based on a comic book character that can match these again. i will be seeing this movie for a third time, hopefully soon.

>easily my favorite movie this year. as much as i liked
>Avengers, DKR beats it out imo. can't wait for both movies to
>come out on dvd.
>
>
>Bane's voice does go in and out, some things you can hear
>clearly, others you can't. one person said he sounded like
>Sean Connery, yes he did, in the very first scene and he never
>sounded like that again. which makes me think that Hardy honed
>the voice more and more, maybe they should have gone and
>redubbed certain scenes.
>
>Hathaway was excellent in the role and i felt she captured the
>Catwoman character from more recent series then the Batman
>Returns Elseworld Catwoman character by Pffeifer.
>
>Bale's voice was better presented here then in TDK, I always
>felt he got it right in BB and they did something digitally in
>TDK to make it gruffer which turned out not so great.
>
>definitely can see elements of No Mans Land and Knightfall at
>work here, the first fight scene with Bane was just brutal and
>depicted much better then in Knightfall. Knightfall Batman
>just had no energy and was dealt with quickly, TDKR you felt
>Batman putting every ounce of his being behind every punch.
>
>it's a masterpiece of story telling, the finale i loved, and i
>liked how it was all neatly tied up to make the "perfect"
>trilogy IMO.
>
>i do have my nitpicks, it's overly long and i felt it dragged
>a little in the first half. where as Batman Begins flowed and
>kept you entertained and interested in the movie until Batman
>finally makes an appearance, TDKR failed to do the same. There
>is alot of story to tell here but it could have used a little
>trimming and still had the same effect.
>
>however, they make up for that with the last half hour or so
>which is highly enjoyable.
>
>i have never liked the redesign cowl they implemented in TDK,
>i always prefered the one from BB. this one always made Bales
>face squashed.
>
>there is not one bad acting moment in here whatsoever,
>everyone has their story, they all do their part extremely
>well and come to a satisfying end.
>
>the Avengers was a fun, comic book, action, popcorn flick with
>humor thrown in, don't go into TDKR expecting the same
>experience. this is a lovingly shot, well executed, well
>written, well directed, DARK movie with alot to take in and
>think about.
>
>James Gordon talked of escalation and thats what happened from
>BB > TDK > TDKR.
>
>i doubt there will ever be three films made based on a comic
>book character that can match these again. i will be seeing
>this movie for a third time, hopefully soon.


I never felt like it dragged or was too long. I enjoyed the slow portions. It felt like a fast paced adventure to me. I agree with most everything you wrote though. Seen it three times now.

There’s a storm coming. You and your friends better batten down the hatches cause when it hits you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us"-Selina Kyle

i admittedly don't know enough about film making or cinematography to judge its merits as movie in a historical sense, like those comparing it to godfather or whatever; but as a batman story, i thought tdkr (and the entire series) was great.

it presented the characters in a manner that was respectful to the source material, i found the story across the 3 movies to flow together in an engaging and exciting manner, and after 2 viewing, tdkr has good replay value. basically, if i read the entire trilogy as a graphic novel, i'd be extremely pleased. i look forward to how future treatments for the character will be done. movies that further emphasize batman's detective skills, or his fighting ability, or his ability to whoop on superman would all be welcome for me.

the mere fact that the movie is being placed on such a pedestal for praise/criticism is interesting. but i'll just say that this was an excellent batman story, and keep it moving.

http://www.jest.com/article/185011/dark-knight-rises-newspaper-headlines

...is brilliant.

There’s a storm coming. You and your friends better batten down the hatches cause when it hits you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us"-Selina Kyle

Well done

and I did indeed laugh.

It didn't. It still sucks:
- Severe pacing issues
- Annoying plot holes
- Terrible dialogue

No I'm not a hater. This is the first Nolan movie (that I've seen) that I disliked. Bummer.

mind u everyone who say it kept raving to me how scary his voice was...so i was like oh damn cool cant wait to see hear this....i immediately started laughing....loved the movie. I just thought his voice was hilarious.


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It wasn't until I read this post that I could articulate what I was feeling.

This shit kinda sucked. Not not kinda, it sucked.

Convoluted story, Cliches, Plot Holes, Badly shot chase and fight scenes, characters over emoting, people we don't care about, undeveloped ideas....

Likes
- Selina Kyle betraying Bats
- The Bat
- the Faux french Revolution
- the Lamborghini shots

Dislikes
- Selina Kyle
- Selina and her blonde "roommate" not getting hot and heavy
- feeding cops that you trapped underground? for what?
- nuclear bomb threatening gotham? I mean, holla @ James Bond for a new threat or something
- Bane's Voice
- Bat's superhuman recovery
- Bat's showing up when he's halfway across the world
- the chase scenes
- the fight scenes
- Talia Al Ghul
- Bat's armor which was previously impervious to small arm fire and knives, suddenly not
- you 5 kids, go knock on doors in a 2 block radius...
- us govt not blowing the damn bridge 5 months ago
- Arhkam's Asylum's (oh I mean black gate) wonderful medical treatment which fixed up Scarecrow real nice
- the lack of a plot
- the lack of character development
- the poor action scenes

I'm just glad I didn't have to pay the normal 2 extra dollars for parking @ that the theater.

I swear to Jah, if I ever run a crew like Bane's, i'm just gonna push the damn button when i get the device.

le sigh,
k. orr

>- feeding cops that you trapped underground? for what?

When Bane drops Bruce in the prison, he explains this part in full

>- Bat's armor which was previously impervious to small arm fire and knives, suddenly not

In TDK Bruce requested a new suit from Fox to be able to turn his head. Fox said he could do it but the seperation of the plating will make him more vulnerable to gunfire and knives.

>- Arhkam's Asylum's (oh I mean black gate) wonderful medical treatment which fixed up Scarecrow real nice

He was already back to normal in TDK

... are things nobody seems to mention

1. Talia floods the underground chamber the reactor is kept in. However when Bane went to get the core of the reactor, he blew a big ass hole in the wall of the chamber. Flooding it would be quite useless.

2. The last shot we get of Bruce in The Bat is when the bomb is 5 seconds away from blowing up. If he made his way out of The Bat at that point he still would've burned alive.

>... are things nobody seems to mention
>
>1. Talia floods the underground chamber the reactor is kept
>in. However when Bane went to get the core of the reactor, he
>blew a big ass hole in the wall of the chamber. Flooding it
>would be quite useless.


it's under the river, I doubt any hole in the wall is making that room unfloodable

>
>2. The last shot we get of Bruce in The Bat is when the bomb
>is 5 seconds away from blowing up. If he made his way out of
>The Bat at that point he still would've burned alive.

this clearly completely bullshit but who cares at that point

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