>The "pundits" around here are constantly saying that ALL
>audiences need to start supporting better movies.

Right, but never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, do I hear
anyone, ever, talk about the bad movie tastes of WHITE
audiences specifically. I hear black pundits foaming at the
mouth in this regard all the time.

Read on...

>Perhaps you missed all the critics, white and otherwise, in
>the press all last year bitching and moaning about the quality
>of movies. Perhaps you missed them this year bitching about
>the crappy summer movies. Perhaps you miss them constantly
>complaining about the irrelevance of the film critic because
>no matter how bad the reviews are, audiences are still going
>to see these bad movies. They aren't talking just about White
>Girls and Tyler Perry movies (which, in case you haven't
>noticed, have been getting better and better reviews).

Thanks for the strawman, but Tyler Perry flicks needn't be
the only films getting bad reviews for my stance to hold:


White people, or white culture, is never CHARGED with having
bad taste on account of there being unsuccessful, bad, terrible
white movies.


Black people, as a culture, ARE charged.


Just ask BigNick. He's CONSTANTLY complaining about the
poor taste of blacks based on what he believes to be bad
movies about, and starring, black people.

I'm saying this is WRONG for TWO reasons:

a) Using the (white)consensus standards for what good movies
are(which is the one we generally all use, black or white, conservative
or liberal), that black people liked WHITE GIRLS is no more telling for
the state of the RACE than white people liking '300'.


b)Why use the (white)consensus standards for good movies at all?

American Beauty?

Sideways?


Lol.

Those movies fucking SUCK, in my very non-white consensus view.

Belly?

White Girls?


Brilliant. Both of them.

Neither received a lot of critical acclaim.

The latter was called "coonish" by snobby
blacks.




I'm right.


>You'll have a hard time proving that the "pundits" around here
>are criticizing bad black movies while supporting bad white
>movies -- because it's not true. People like Bignick and I
>have said time and time again that ALL audiences need to stop
>supporting ALL bad movies.

Well then give yourself a goddamn medal, Ghandi.

Problem is:

a)I never actually said that the world, and the boards, are full of
evil crackers and uncle toms who laud 'Freddy Got Fingered' and
chastice 'White Girls'


b)That phantom argument doesn't have to the case for me(and Bags')
central argument to hold:

Do you *EVER* hear *ANYONE* talk about the poor movie tastes
of *WHITE* people S-P-E-C-I-F-I-C-A-L-L-Y???







Of course you don't.








Well,


People do the shit about BLACK MOVIE TASTES
S-P-E-C-I-F-I-C-A-L-L-Y all the time.



BigNIck and LOTS of others do it. There's a generation of black
artists who are generally just player haters, but also are
self-proclaimed vanguards who feel oppressed and sling
bad things at black people. This brand of black artist
is increasing in frequency and popularity. Stanley Crouch
is sort of their Ronald Regan. White people absolutely
love them, because they are black and chastize black art
and tastes with veracity.



One of Bags points was that these dickheads are
no more PROFOUND than the "ignorant" black who supports
Wayans films. This is because self-proclaimed vanguard black man
simply BOUGHT the consensus white view for what is good/funny,
without putting his/her very viewpoints under the microscope.


I mean, I read Stanley Crouch's review of 'Pulp Fiction'.


I'm smarter than he is, and can say that was the biggest
bunch of horseshit I've ever read in my life. I laughed my
ass off. It was perhaps the most wordy and nonsensical
review of the film ever.

I respect people who say "Hey O_E, I liked Pulp Fiction
because the shit was entertaining."


Crouch was writing all this shit about racial commentary,
and how brilliant was. Of course, he did that solely to
please white people. This is the crowd me and Bags are
referring to.


>You just disagree with us about what is a bad movie. But,
>really, we don't disagree that much. We all want better for
>black people, specifically in regards to entertainment
>industry. We just have different ideas about how to go about
>it.

Now, how is that?


How can we get better films for black people?


How can we get more oppotunities for black people?


How?


Black women STILL get no fucking roles and have to do
porn to get oscars.

Denzel and Will are STILL the only two black actors who get scripts
that aren't necessarily written for blacks.



I mean, Hollywood is really, really, really, really a fucked up + racist
place, man.




It really is.




Now, I'm saying that we need to do something OTHER THAN
blame BLACK movie-going tastes to fix it.




WHITE people need to be held responsible for that shit TOO.




And if WHITE people can make a hit movie with two dudes
putting each others assholes in each others faces, than black
people should be able to do the same. Not only that, we should
able to do it, and get the same box office purse, and critical acclaim.

(one of the oddities is how everyone *got* the social commentary in
'Borat' but didn't get it in 'White Girls' when the commentary in 'White
Girls' was perhaps, more profound. The Wayans Bros, of course, were
getting yts back for the minstrel tradition. Borat, on the other hand,
told us how ignorant white people are. I think the former is at least
as thoughtful as the latter).


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